Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (6 Viewers)

[SaintsInDome2006]

Clinton wasn't actually disbarred.

He resigned his bar membership in DC and AR IIRC in light of the fact it would be taken from him. Sort of like surrendering a server knowing it will be seized anyway.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is there any doubt that were he alive today he'll still vote for her over Trump?

Probably true, exigent circumstances but yeah. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hitchens was a really bright guy, a joy to read, but he was eager to present himself as a gadfly and iconoclast. His attacks against both Hillary Clinton and Mother Theresa were, I believe, attempts at self-publicity.

He was a purist.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hmm. I thought you said you were skeptical of Broadrick.

I know she finds Broadrick credible. That's not the same as believing Broadrick. I've just never believed, myself, that Bill would actually rape somebody. Just doesn't seem to fit what I know of his character. Womanizer, yes. Sexual predator, philanderer, sure. But rape? I don't see it (the same for Trump BTW.)

But the important part is that Hillary as an enabler doesn't fit her at all- though it DOES fit the fictional Hillary character that has been created by the vast right wing...um...network for decades.

Just ribbing you because I'm not sure you really read that article. I am skeptical of the rape claim, actually doubtful. She had the chance to say what she wanted to say in an affidavit which would likely become a deposition, she demurred. 

Pretty sure her and Bill were together though. I think it's more the classic harassment/ intimidation / Mad Men thing I discussed above.

 

[-fish-]

He resigned his bar membership in DC and AR IIRC in light of the fact it would be taken from him. Sort of like surrendering a server knowing it will be seized anyway.

not really, and you're still inaccurate.  he resigned from the US Supreme Court.  he took a voluntary suspension from Arkansas rather than face a hearing.  he's been eligible for reinstatement for some time, but never reapplied since he likely has no need to practice law again anywhere.  neither is a disbarment, and even in the link you provided, you can't find the word "disbar" anywhere.   

it is very Timlike to repost from a blog without checking the accuracy of the assertions being quoted.   

 

[timschochet]

He was a purist.

In what sense? Are you aware that the Peter Fallow character in The Bonfire of the Vanities is largely based on Christopher Hitchens?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

not really, and you're still inaccurate.  he resigned from the US Supreme Court.  he took a voluntary suspension from Arkansas rather than face a hearing.  he's been eligible for reinstatement for some time, but never reapplied since he likely has no need to practice law again anywhere.  neither is a disbarment, and even in the link you provided, you can't find the word "disbar" anywhere.   

it is very Timlike to repost from a blog without checking the accuracy of the assertions being quoted.   

Hm I'm beering in the Quarter right now but I will follow up later. Thanks.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

In what sense? Are you aware that the Peter Fallow character in The Bonfire of the Vanities is largely based on Christopher Hitchens?

In the sense he was an idealist. Not a Wolfe reader actually. I enjoyed Hitchens' arguments and his ideas. 

 

[NCCommish]

Hitchens is hardly the only one to report on Mother Teresa's issues. Her clinics were compared to concentration camps not by Hitchens but by researchers. She rode around in private jets and her clinics lacked basic medicine. She associated with Baby Doc Duvalier and took his blood money. I'm not really a fan. She is a creation of church propaganda.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

he took a voluntary suspension from Arkansas rather than face a hearing.

Because he was going to be disbarred. He was also fined.

That's the AR disbarment notice. Clinton 'admitted to giving knowingly evasive and misleading discovery responses.'

He violated the Rules of Professional Conduct.

I don't know where you're from but I can tell you I have seen this happen to disgraced, and typically convicted, lawyer politicians before. They resign rather than be disbarred.

In recommending that President Clinton be disbarred for providing false testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case, a disciplinary committee of the Arkansas Supreme Court has called for the harshest sanction at its disposal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/25/opinion/mr-clinton-s-disbarment-case.html?_r=0

- That's a death knell for almost every attorney. He wasn't winning that.

he resigned from the US Supreme Court.

Yep you're right it was the USSC, not DC:

The Supreme Court ordered former President Clinton disbarred from practicing law before the high court on Monday and gave him 40 days to contest the order.

The court did not explain its reasons, but Supreme Court disbarment often follows disbarment in lower courts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/01/national/clinton-disbarred-from-practice-before-supreme-court.html

- So that was pretty much on the basis of what happened at the AR bar.

it is very Timlike to repost from a blog without checking the accuracy of the assertions being quoted.   

- I don't know what to say. Hitchens linked to the wiki page, which links to the actual order of disbarment. The man was disbarred.

 

[-fish-]

Because he was going to be disbarred. He was also fined.

That's the AR disbarment notice. Clinton 'admitted to giving knowingly evasive and misleading discovery responses.'

He violated the Rules of Professional Conduct.

I don't know where you're from but I can tell you I have seen this happen to disgraced, and typically convicted, lawyer politicians before. They resign rather than be disbarred.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/25/opinion/mr-clinton-s-disbarment-case.html?_r=0

- That's a death knell for almost every attorney. He wasn't winning that.

Yep you're right it was the USSC, not DC:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/01/national/clinton-disbarred-from-practice-before-supreme-court.html

- So that was pretty much on the basis of what happened at the AR bar.

- I don't know what to say. Hitchens linked to the wiki page, which links to the actual order of disbarment. The man was disbarred.

except there is no order of disbarment and he wasn't disbarred.   facts, shmacts.

 

[timschochet]

Hitchens is hardly the only one to report on Mother Teresa's issues. Her clinics were compared to concentration camps not by Hitchens but by researchers. She rode around in private jets and her clinics lacked basic medicine. She associated with Baby Doc Duvalier and took his blood money. I'm not really a fan. She is a creation of church propaganda.

Well I don't know enough to comment. But the few times I heard Hitchens talk about it I was very startled.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

except there is no order of disbarment and he wasn't disbarred.   facts, shmacts.

Oh ok, the AR SC and USSC instructed Bill Clinton that he is not permitted to practice in their courts, but he was not disbarred. Got it.

SECTION 13. DISBARMENT PROCEEDINGS.

D. The findings of fact, conclusions of law, and recommendation of an appropriate
sanction shall be filed with the Clerk of the Supreme Court along with a transcript and the record
of the proceedings, which shall include all pleadings, orders, and other appropriate materials
filed with the Clerk of the Supreme Court. Upon the filing, the parties shall file briefs as in other
cases. If any sanction is recommended by the special judge, the respondent attorney shall brief
first, as the appellant. The findings of fact filed by the special judge shall be accepted by the
Supreme Court unless clearly erroneous. The Supreme Court shall impose the appropriate
sanction, if any, as the evidence may warrant. In imposing the sanction of suspension of law
license, the attorney may be suspended for a period not exceeding five (5) years. There is no
appeal from the decision of the Supreme Court, except as may be available under federal law.

That's disbarment.

 

[cstu]

Hitchens is hardly the only one to report on Mother Teresa's issues. Her clinics were compared to concentration camps not by Hitchens but by researchers. She rode around in private jets and her clinics lacked basic medicine. She associated with Baby Doc Duvalier and took his blood money. I'm not really a fan. She is a creation of church propaganda.

http://time.com/4126238/mother-teresas-crisis-of-faith/

“Jesus has a very special love for you,” she assured Van der Peet. “[But] as for me, the silence and the emptiness is so great, that I look and do not see,–Listen and do not hear–the tongue moves [in prayer] but does not speak … I want you to pray for me–that I let Him have [a] free hand.”

And in fact, that appears to be the case. A new, innocuously titled book, Mother Teresa: Come Be My Light (Doubleday), consisting primarily of correspondence between Teresa and her confessors and superiors over a period of 66 years, provides the spiritual counterpoint to a life known mostly through its works. The letters, many of them preserved against her wishes (she had requested that they be destroyed but was overruled by her church), reveal that for the last nearly half-century of her life she felt no presence of God whatsoever–or, as the book’s compiler and editor, the Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk, writes, “neither in her heart or in the eucharist.”

 

[-fish-]

Oh ok, the AR SC and USSC instructed Bill Clinton that he is not permitted to practice in their courts, but he was not disbarred. Got it.

That's disbarment.

No, AR accepted a voluntary suspension with a 5 year reinstatement period.  That's not disbarment.   He resigned from the USSC.  That's not disbarment either.  

Here's an example:  I know two lawyers in my state that ran into disciplinary hearings.  One committed arson in the course of a divorce, then threatened to murder a judge.  He got disbarred.  

The other had a nervous breakdown when a family member died, and mishandled some cases and some client trust funds.  She took a 2 year voluntary suspension and then sought (and was granted) reinstatement.  

I resigned from the Nevada Supreme Court because I don't intend to practice there again.

One of those is a disbarment.  The other two aren't.  Clinton wasn't disbarred, the order on the wiki page isn't a disbarment order, and if you search the page the search term "disbar" doesn't even come up.  Given the fact he had no intention of ever practicing law again, surrendering his card was just the easiest thing to do.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Accusing a 12 year old child who was raped of seeking out older older men, fantasizing about them romantically, and exaggerating about their physically attacking her? Nahhhh...

She's requesting an independent medical examination.  This is one of the more tame versions of that request I've ever seen.

Henry if you're still around do you mind explaining further? I totally defer to you.

I think this appears to be the full court record.

The full Affidavit is on Page 34.

This is an explanation of why this is relevant from WaPo:

As part of her handling of the case, Clinton filed an affidavit July 28, 1975, requesting that the girl go through a psychiatric examination. “I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing,” Clinton said. “I have also been informed that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body. Also that she exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

Clinton offered no source for the claims.

When Glenn Thrush, then a reporter for Newsday, showed the affidavit to Shelton in 2007, he wrote that she was visibly stunned. “It kind of shocks me – it’s not true,” she said. “I never said anybody attacked my body before, never in my life.”

But Shelton told Thrush at the time that she bore no ill will toward Clinton. “I have to understand that she was representing Taylor,” she said. “I’m sure Hillary was just doing her job.”

But in 2014, Shelton told the Daily Beast that she had been misquoted. “Hillary Clinton took me through hell,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/11/the-facts-about-hillary-clinton-and-the-kathy-shelton-rape-case/

- Look at Paragraph 4. You would file an Affidavit without any source or name supporting your claim that "I have been informed"? That's ok, to not say who informed you or what their expertise or relationship is?

- Look at the Affidavit of the Investigator on Page 4 for comparison.

Who informed Hillary of this?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

No, AR accepted a voluntary suspension with a 5 year reinstatement period.  That's not disbarment.   He resigned from the USSC.  That's not disbarment either.  

Here's an example:  I know two lawyers in my state that ran into disciplinary hearings.  One committed arson in the course of a divorce, then threatened to murder a judge.  He got disbarred.  

The other had a nervous breakdown when a family member died, and mishandled some cases and some client trust funds.  She took a 2 year voluntary suspension and then sought (and was granted) reinstatement.  

I resigned from the Nevada Supreme Court because I don't intend to practice there again.

One of those is a disbarment.  The other two aren't.  Clinton wasn't disbarred, the order on the wiki page isn't a disbarment order, and if you search the page the search term "disbar" doesn't even come up.  Given the fact he had no intention of ever practicing law again, surrendering his card was just the easiest thing to do.

Ok, those example are actually different. In Bill Clinton's case the AR SC recommended disbarment, which is usually if not almost always the final result if someone fights it.

Was that the situation in the examples you gave? Which ones?

 

[cstu]

No, AR accepted a voluntary suspension with a 5 year reinstatement period.  That's not disbarment.   He resigned from the USSC.  That's not disbarment either.  

Here's an example:  I know two lawyers in my state that ran into disciplinary hearings.  One committed arson in the course of a divorce, then threatened to murder a judge.  He got disbarred.  

The other had a nervous breakdown when a family member died, and mishandled some cases and some client trust funds.  She took a 2 year voluntary suspension and then sought (and was granted) reinstatement.  

I resigned from the Nevada Supreme Court because I don't intend to practice there again.

One of those is a disbarment.  The other two aren't.  Clinton wasn't disbarred, the order on the wiki page isn't a disbarment order, and if you search the page the search term "disbar" doesn't even come up.  Given the fact he had no intention of ever practicing law again, surrendering his card was just the easiest thing to do.

So Clinton was suspended is accurate?

 

[-fish-]

Ok, those example are actually different. In Bill Clinton's case the AR SC recommended disbarment, which is usually if not almost always the final result if someone fights it.

Was that the situation in the examples you gave? Which ones?

Now you're moving the goalposts.  There was no disbarment.   You want to know what percentage of tentative recommendations get overturned after a request for a hearing?  No idea, but it's a non-zero number.

You use the word disbarred.  He wasn't.  The blog you quoted said the wiki page said he was disbarred.  It doesn't.

Changing the argument doesn't change the fact that your "facts" are simply wrong.  Throwing around words as if they have no meaning and then trying to claim that you were saying something else is a complete fallacy.  Sadly, this is the influence Tim has had on discourse here.  Skim a blog, post an inflammatory quote, but don't worry about whether there's any accuracy.   At least you don't plagiarize your inaccurate statements.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Now you're moving the goalposts.  There was no disbarment.   You want to know what percentage of tentative recommendations get overturned after a request for a hearing?  No idea, but it's a non-zero number.

You use the word disbarred.  He wasn't.  The blog you quoted said the wiki page said he was disbarred.  It doesn't.

Changing the argument doesn't change the fact that your "facts" are simply wrong.  Throwing around words as if they have no meaning and then trying to claim that you were saying something else is a complete fallacy.  Sadly, this is the influence Tim has had on discourse here.  Skim a blog, post an inflammatory quote, but don't worry about whether there's any accuracy.   At least you don't plagiarize your inaccurate statements.

Whoah You brought up the examples. Not me.

Which of your examples had a recommendation of disbarment from the state disciplinary committee? Any? None?

 

[-fish-]

Henry if you're still around do you mind explaining further? I totally defer to you.

I think this appears to be the full court record.

The full Affidavit is on Page 34.

This is an explanation of why this is relevant from WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/11/the-facts-about-hillary-clinton-and-the-kathy-shelton-rape-case/

- Look at Paragraph 4. You would file an Affidavit without any source or name supporting your claim that "I have been informed"? That's ok, to not say who informed you or what their expertise or relationship is?

- Look at the Affidavit of the Investigator on Page 4 for comparison.

Who informed Hillary of this?

did you even read the article?  the last two paragraphs indicate that she was lying about the polygraph and the psych evaluation.

 

[NCCommish]

So Bill cut a deal to not face criminal.charges that included him giving up his AR license before they took it anyway. To avoid disbarment from the USSC he also resigned as he was going to be disbarred if he didn't. That seems to be the gist of it. 

 

[-fish-]

Whoah You brought up the examples. Not me.

Which of your examples had a recommendation of disbarment from the state disciplinary committee? Any? None?

why would it matter?  if that's the recommendation, you request a hearing where you are represented by counsel or you take a voluntary suspension.  Clinton managed to be acquitted in an impeachment.  Would the Arkansas state bar's disciplinary committee have held up to his attorneys?

you have said multiple times now he was disbarred.  it simply isn't true.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

why would it matter?  if that's the recommendation, you request a hearing where you are represented by counsel or you take a voluntary suspension.  Clinton managed to be acquitted in an impeachment.  Would the Arkansas state bar's disciplinary committee have held up to his attorneys?

you have said multiple times now he was disbarred.  it simply isn't true.

Well this is what I have:

• The AR SC Rules of Conduct under "Disbarment" which shows what BC got was the maximum allowed in that state, 5 years suspended.
  
• You don't seem to have any indication or source for suggesting that AR allows for permanent disbarment, which seems to be what you re really referring to.
  
• You offered three examples where one person was disbarred and two voluntarily resigned. You never did answer my question as to whether any of the three were recommended for disbarment by the DC of the state bar. I'm guessing that the first one was indeed so, ie the guy ultimately actually disbarred.
  

I don't want to quibble anymore. I enjoy these conversations but I don't want to drag anyone's enjoyment down. You want to say that in AR voluntary suspension for 5 years following a recommendation for disbarment from the disciplinary committee, even when the SC's own RPC state that 5 years suspension is the penalty under (their term) "Disbarment", isn't actual, you know, "disbarment", fine. Considering suspension is the form of disbarment in AR I think Hitchens was perfectly appropriate in saying what he did.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

did you even read the article?  the last two paragraphs indicate that she was lying about the polygraph and the psych evaluation.

Yeah, it includes this.

Shelton did not know about Clinton’s affidavit asking for the exam in the 41-year-old case until it was shown to her by a reporter nine years ago.

Same question to you - is it ok for an attorney to submit an affidavit without stating any source like a record or person with relationship or expertise for the basis of the affidavit? Or if you can just tell, what was Hillary's source for that assertion?

 

[rockaction]

Hitchens was a really bright guy, a joy to read, but he was eager to present himself as a gadfly and iconoclast. His attacks against both Hillary Clinton and Mother Theresa were, I believe, attempts at self-publicity.

I love how you worked Hillary and Mother Theresa into the same sentence. My God. 

 

[rockaction]

Well this is what I have:

• The AR SC Rules of Conduct under "Disbarment" which shows what BC got was the maximum allowed in that state, 5 years suspended.
  
• You don't seem to have any indication or source for suggesting that AR allows for permanent disbarment, which seems to be what you re really referring to.
  
• You offered three examples where one person was disbarred and two voluntarily resigned. You never did answer my question as to whether any of the three were recommended for disbarment by the DC of the state bar. I'm guessing that the first one was indeed so, ie the guy ultimately actually disbarred.
  

I don't want to quibble anymore. I enjoy these conversations but I don't want to drag anyone's enjoyment down. You want to say that in AR voluntary suspension for 5 years following a recommendation for disbarment from the disciplinary committee, even when the SC's own RPC state that 5 years suspension is the penalty under (their term) "Disbarment", isn't actual, you know, "disbarment", fine.

Snopes has SID's claim as mostly true, FWIW.

 

[-fish-]

Snopes has SID's claim as mostly true, FWIW.

Except the disbarment part. 

 

[cstu]

Election's over. Done. She's won. Trump is down by too much and keep insisting that the problem is his boat doesn't have enough holes.

If anyone wants action on Trump, I'll do 10-to-1 taking the HillDog.

It's over, you know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

 

[cstu]

As someone who loves it when the smart criminal wins at the end of the movie, I'm looking forward to Hillary's Presidency.

 

[cstu]

I love how you worked Hillary and Mother Theresa into the same sentence. My God. 

Hillary Clinton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mother Teresa

 

[-fish-]

Yeah, it includes this.

Same question to you - is it ok for an attorney to submit an affidavit without stating any source like a record or person with relationship or expertise for the basis of the affidavit? Or if you can just tell, what was Hillary's source for that assertion?

As has been said several times already, the standard is that the attorney signing the pleading has a good faith belief for the statement.  No identification of the source is necessary (and may be privileged).  However, in this case the psych eval was denied, the witness was lying about it happening, and the court record doesn't support the claim that Clinton was behind the polygraph.  Once again, the facts are being ignored in favor of the spin.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

As has been said several times already, the standard is that the attorney signing the pleading has a good faith belief for the statement.  No identification of the source is necessary (and may be privileged).  However, in this case the psych eval was denied, the witness was lying about it happening, and the court record doesn't support the claim that Clinton was behind the polygraph.  Once again, the facts are being ignored in favor of the spin.

Thanks. I was just curious about that one paragraph.

 

[The Future Champs]

Is there any doubt that were he alive today he'll still vote for her over Trump?

None, but he would have voted for Sanders in the primary.

 

[cstu]

Donald Trump has fallen further behind Hillary Clinton and now trails her by 8 points among likely voters, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll, with 1 in 5 Republicans saying his vulgar comments about groping women disqualify him from the presidency.

The national tracking poll was launched after Sunday night’s second presidential debate, where Trump was pressed to explain his comments in a 2005 videotape about grabbing women’s genitalia. He described the remarks, which first surfaced on Friday, as “locker room” banter and apologized to Americans.

The poll released on Tuesday showed Clinton, the Democratic nominee, had increased her lead over Trump, the Republican nominee, to 8 percentage points on Monday from 5 points last week.

When asked to pick between the two major-party candidates, 45% of likely voters said they supported Clinton while 37% supported Trump. Another 18% said they would not support either candidate.

 

[cstu]

Looking at prices on PredictIt. Hillary trading at 83 cents. They take 10% of your profit then 5% of your cash out. So after their slice, you basically are getting what I just offered: a 10-to-1 bet. Thinking about putting in $1,000.

If you can be sure the site will payout that's actually not a bad bet. 

 

[RCon]

Sportsbook.ag is currently showing Clinton as -600.  The previous prop bet of "Democrats win by 150+ electoral votes" seems to be off the board now.

 

[timschochet]

The last 3 GOP candidates have spent a lot of time campaigning in Pennsylvania and treating it like a key battleground state. But is it really? At this point in 2008, 2012, and now, the Democrat opened up a wide lead in Pennsylvania and never looked back. 

If Pennsylvania is in reality a blue state, then I don't see how we're going to have another Republican president for a long time. 

 

[Sammy3469]

The last 3 GOP candidates have spent a lot of time campaigning in Pennsylvania and treating it like a key battleground state. But is it really? At this point in 2008, 2012, and now, the Democrat opened up a wide lead in Pennsylvania and never looked back. 

If Pennsylvania is in reality a blue state, then I don't see how we're going to have another Republican president for a long time. 

He's totally lost the suburban woman vote around Philly.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The last 3 GOP candidates have spent a lot of time campaigning in Pennsylvania and treating it like a key battleground state. But is it really? At this point in 2008, 2012, and now, the Democrat opened up a wide lead in Pennsylvania and never looked back. 

If Pennsylvania is in reality a blue state, then I don't see how we're going to have another Republican president for a long time. 

Meh 2012 was 52 D/ 47 R. That's not exactly CA.

 

[WilliamBonney]

If you can be sure the site will payout that's actually not a bad bet. 

$1000 to win $130.05? Its not a bad bet, its a stupid bet. 

 

[timschochet]

Meh 2012 was 52 D/ 47 R. That's not exactly CA.

It's not exactly close either. And it was a larger lead per polling in October. Romney made a final push (expending time and money that some in his campaign felt was a crucial error.) 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It would appear that Donna Brazile used her CNN access to share a town hall debate question with the Clinton campaign.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It's not exactly close either. And it was a larger lead per polling in October. Romney made a final push (expending time and money that some in his campaign felt was a crucial error.) 

I don't know, you asked, I'd say don't write off states that you lose by 3 points, but maybe figure out what the key difference to overcome is there. 

 

[timschochet]

It would appear that Donna Brazile used her CNN access to share a town hall debate question with the Clinton campaign.

Hannity was all over this last night. I suspect crap like this happens in every election. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hannity was all over this last night. I suspect crap like this happens in every election. 

Well CNN having a well known Clinton advisor and DNC Vice-chairwoman as a pundit seems like a bad person to share questions with in advance in the first place.

 

[timschochet]

Well CNN having a well known Clinton advisor and DNC Vice-chairwoman as a pundit seems like a bad person to share questions with in advance in the first place.

Whatever. It's extremely unlikely to me that she told the campaign anything it did not already know. Ever since Hillary stumbled over the drivers license for illegals question back in 2007, I have never seen her unprepared for any question in any town hall or debate. She is probably the most prepared politician I have ever watched.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Whatever. It's extremely unlikely to me that she told the campaign anything it did not already know. Ever since Hillary stumbled over the drivers license for illegals question back in 2007, I have never seen her unprepared for any question in any town hall or debate. She is probably the most prepared politician I have ever watched.

I'd agree Hillary is extremely prepared, one of her assets for sure. This is more on CNN, they also hired Lewandowski while he was still working for Trump. These people should not be on the air as pundits in the first place.

 

[randall146]

They shouldn't be sharing questions in advance, but it's not as if both sides don't already know every topic of discussion. There are no surprise questions in these debates. 

Particularly since they seldom answer the specific question anyway, but only use it as a intro to whatever they want to discuss in he first place. 

 

[Guest]

The last 3 GOP candidates have spent a lot of time campaigning in Pennsylvania and treating it like a key battleground state. But is it really? At this point in 2008, 2012, and now, the Democrat opened up a wide lead in Pennsylvania and never looked back. 

If Pennsylvania is in reality a blue state, then I don't see how we're going to have another Republican president for a long time. 

Depends on how the GOP responds.  If they double down on vitriol and extreme anti-establishment rhetoric, yes.  If they're smart and run a moderate, that candidate will be well received.  This election has been less about issues or political leanings and about emotions.  I think it would be refreshing if people felt they had a candidate that had substance and would realign quickly if they aren't too establishment but don't run on a childish platform.

One will never know, but even if an establishment Kasich were Trump's running mate and Trump dropped out last month with enough time for Kasich to replace him, Kasich would win the election by a healthy margin.

Problem is the Party is tainted by need for raw meet amongst what may be its new base.  How they deal with that we'll see.