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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (7 Viewers)

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Wonder if some of the guys in here will be moving to Canada if Hillary loses? 
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I have citizenship rights. :shrug:

But until global warming hits a bit more (give it 5 years with Trump in office), no chance.  NY is too cold already.

 
Hillary's a criminal and Trump is an ### hole..

Want to talk issues?

Today is November 1.  Obamacare open enrollment is now open.

Hillary wants to double down

Trump wants to scrap it

 
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Mr. Ham said:
Major Wikileaks release.   October 2015, Podesta attached an AFL-CIO memo claiming Hillary's public position on TPP is a front to "get labor off her back", and that she will reverse position once in the White House.  Nothing that will shock anyone, but still.  To have it documented...

Squiz can find a link.  It's blowing up Twitter.
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This would be the worst kept secret ever.....

 
Opie said:
Hillary's a criminal and Trump is an ### hole..

Want to talk issues?

Today is November 1.  Obamacare open enrollment is now open.

Hillary wants to double down

Trump wants to scrap it
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Hey Opie, is there anything significant going on with Obamacare on November 1?  I haven't heard.

 
LittlePhatty said:
Do you honestly believe she used a private email server to "intentionally" put classified info at risk? If so, what her the motive for such intentions?
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This is a stupid question. Was the whole point of the personal server to risk our national security? No. Was she willing to risk our national security because she wanted block FOIA requests? Hell yes. 

Why did she want to block FOIAs? Because she was trading influence for money. 

 
TobiasFunke said:
Given that we're apparently doing this whole "character comparison" thing, a reminder that Clinton has dedicated a good part of her life to helping children.  Donald Trump once rolled up to a big ceremony for a nursery school for kids with AIDS, took another donor's seat on the podium, pretended he was a big donor, posed for pictures and danced and sung with the kids and real donors, and left without giving them a dime.

A NURSERY SCHOOL FOR KIDS WITH AIDS.
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This is actually pretty awesome in its sheer evilness.  

 
Koya said:
Not mad, frustrated. It's disingenuous of you all at best... and honestly, pretty cowardly.  All you need to do is actually answer a direct question or two. 

As to your newest false and baseless accusation, I've been known to change my mind not only on certain issues/policy points, but as a direct result of conversations I've had on this very board.  Again, why you are afraid to answer direct questions (which, if answered, would at the least change or challenge my perspective) I don't know. :shrug:
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Honest answer. Who wants to engage you when your questions lead with insults?  But jaydod gave you a real answer. 

 
IvanKaramazov said:
This is actually pretty awesome in its sheer evilness.  
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Remember when The Office did that "Scott's Tots" episode, where Michael Scott promised to send a bunch of kids to college if they graduated high school so everyone would love him but then later had to admit he didn't have the money and gave them laptop batteries before running off?  People mostly liked it, but some people said the whole thing was a bit over the top, nobody would ever be that irresponsible and cruel.

Now we have a presidential candidate who has done something like that.  At least twice, probably many more times.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I read Podesta as saying that they need to turn the emails over to investigators, not destroy them.  Admittedly, his wording could be interpreted either way.  But he seems to have been one of the sane ones on Team Clinton.
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Yes, could be dumping to State Department.  Hard to tell exactly.

Anyway, they did try to keep Obama out of the mess.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/41736

 
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TobiasFunke said:
Remember when The Office did that "Scott's Tots" episode, where Michael Scott promised to send a bunch of kids to college if they graduated high school so everyone would love him but then later had to admit he didn't have the money and gave them laptop batteries before running off?  People mostly liked it, but some people said the whole thing was a bit over the top, nobody would ever be that irresponsible and cruel.

Now we have a presidential candidate who has done something like that.  At least twice, probably many more times.
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Poor Hatians.  

 
CNN Commentator Hugh Hewitt *reportedly* (source DC Whispers, not confirmed) says his sources tell him the FBI asked the DOJ to convene a Grand Jury pertaining to the Foundation (meaning they believed there is basis for a prosecutable case).  DOJ said no.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Honest answer. Who wants to engage you when your questions lead with insults?  But jaydod gave you a real answer. 
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For my insults I apologize.  Get's frustrating when you see the same tactics of hyperbole and avoidance and stupid emoticons as answers to serious questions.  At some point, perhaps the insult becomes justified... like after the fifth ####### ROFL smiley without any regard to even try and address the question at hand.

To that end, it's hardly an insult to question the motive behind this behavior, which you have demonstrated repeatedly as have others.  Do you not have the answers? Too lazy to type them? Afraid to answer / engage in a legitimate back and forth?  That's not an insult, it's honest questions that you yourself bring to bear because of, well, your insistence on not providing substantive responses to legitimate questions. 

Or, as Trump would say, I just call it like I see it.  And what I see is a fear to answer... whether that's because you don't know the answer, don't like the answer, or don't like the perspective that answer may provide, that I don't know.  I just see what is, honestly, cowardly behavior for a message board, when text is the only tool we have here.

Well, and in your case, smilies. 

 
What time does Josh Earnest speak today?  I'm sure the Obama regime got buried with calls from Democrats yesterday for not criticizing Comey.   :popcorn:

 
[icon] said:
When the accusations materialize into federal investigations... lets talk. 

And if forced to pick between a more dangerous quality in a president... I'll take a guy who's flaw is he sexually assault over someone who's flaw is willful mishandling of national secrets and then covering it up. Both are horrible..... one is MUCH more dangerous in office. 



 
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She was 13 and she now has witnesses. Including the woman in charge of recruiting girls for the "parties". She also says she witnessed Trump assualt more than.one underage girl. 

Given that so far nothing of consequence has been revealed after months of investigation of Clinton it's hard to get her into the same universe of scumbag as Trump when it comes to who did what based on accusations. 

Trump is a vile, venal, piece of ####. Clinton is horribly corrupted and a shill for the oligarchy. She remains the lesser of the two evils. Not an endorsement because she sucks and won't get my vote. But to.pretend to have some moral high ground voting for Trump is idiotic at best.

 
Mr. Ham said:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/41841

Are you serious -- is that really Podesta telling Mills "we have to dump all of those emails?"  Isn't that game over?
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Discussed above - but my first instinct was "dump" means to put them out into the public

That is a typical, though not Clintonian, response to a brewing scandal - get it all out in the public early, so it blows over sooner.  IF you don't get everything out early, it tends to come out in drips, and keeps the scandal alive...

 
Koya said:
For my insults I apologize.  Get's frustrating when you see the same tactics of hyperbole and avoidance and stupid emoticons as answers to serious questions.  At some point, perhaps the insult becomes justified... like after the fifth ####### ROFL smiley without any regard to even try and address the question at hand.

To that end, it's hardly an insult to question the motive behind this behavior, which you have demonstrated repeatedly as have others.  Do you not have the answers? Too lazy to type them? Afraid to answer / engage in a legitimate back and forth?  That's not an insult, it's honest questions that you yourself bring to bear because of, well, your insistence on not providing substantive responses to legitimate questions. 

Or, as Trump would say, I just call it like I see it.  And what I see is a fear to answer... whether that's because you don't know the answer, don't like the answer, or don't like the perspective that answer may provide, that I don't know.  I just see what is, honestly, cowardly behavior for a message board, when text is the only tool we have here.

Well, and in your case, smilies. 
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Apologize for insults and then go right back into your same Schtick. Good stuff.  :lmao: . I pointed you to answer. Do what you want with it. Carry on 

 
NCCommish said:
Trump is a vile, venal, piece of ####. Clinton is horribly corrupted and a shill for the oligarchy. She remains the lesser of the two evils. Not an endorsement because she sucks and won't get my vote. But to.pretend to have some moral high ground voting for Trump is idiotic at best.
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To me, it all comes down to who could do the most damage to my country.

Would it be a vile, venal, piece of #### or would it be a  corrupted shill for the oligarchy

I cannot think of anyone who could do more harm to my country than Hillary Clinton.

 
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Opie said:
To me, it all comes down to who could do the most damage to my country.

Would it be a vile, venal, piece of #### or would it be a  corrupted shill for the oligarchy

I cannot think of anyone who could do more harm than Hillary.
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how can you possibly think this when Trump has literally asked why aren't we nuking more people?  He is literally going to blow up every trade deal out there.  He has empowered the racist element in our society to stand up and be heard.  And more importantly to me I think he is going to let Russia do whatever they want and that couldn't be more dangerous.  

Clinton does not have my vote but at worst she is a continuation of everything that has been going on the last 20 years.  She is probably a tick higher than GWB but lower than others.

 
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killface said:
how can you possibly think this when Trump has literally asked why aren't we nuking more people?  He is literally going to blow up every trade deal out there.  He has empowered the racist element in our society to stand up and be heard.  

Clinton does not have my vote but at worst she is a continuation of everything that has been going on the last 20 years.  She is probably a tick higher than GWB but lower than others.
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...yet, Trump has been labeled "fear monger"?

 
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I have no idea if this is true, but people are stating that Michelle Obama has erased all mentions of Hillary Clinton on her Twitter posts.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Given that we're apparently doing this whole "character comparison" thing, a reminder that Clinton has dedicated a good part of her life to helping children.  Donald Trump once rolled up to a big ceremony for a nursery school for kids with AIDS, took another donor's seat on the podium, pretended he was a big donor, posed for pictures and danced and sung with the kids and real donors, and left without giving them a dime.

A NURSERY SCHOOL FOR KIDS WITH AIDS.

He also one time served as "principal for a day" for a high school in the Bronx, promised to wow the chess team (at the time they were $5000 short of what they needed for a tournament), handed them a fake million dollar bill, gave them just $200, and left. 

That one had a happy ending though- someone else made the $5000 donation, saying that she was "ashamed to be the same species" as Trump.  Welcome to the club, lady.

But Huma Abedin has some email exchanges with Clinton that were found on Anthony Weiner's laptop, so, you know, that's pretty bad too I guess.
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When this translates into "Hillary is the absolute worst person in the world. So vile, so corrupt", then it's become a joke. Learn how to capitalize on a scandal without sounding like chicken little.

 
CBusAlex said:
And you don't care either, apparently.
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I never followed her before, but it does seem odd that she was campaigning for her yet no tweets about that.  

Feels like the Obamas are distancing themselves from the Clintons. First, the press conference saying Comey was honorable and now this (if true).  or possibly RUSSIA hacked the account.  

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Apologize for insults and then go right back into your same Schtick. Good stuff.  :lmao: . I pointed you to answer. Do what you want with it. Carry on 
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I clearly said, it's not an insult to point out a pattern of behavior. I'm still waiting over a week for a series of questions where you just :lmao:  as replies.  Is what it is. 

 
The Commish said:
@Koya What was the question you aren't getting the answers for that is making you so frustrated?
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It was a series of questions last week. Literally between a half dozen or dozen in a number of posts.  To the point where I probably asked (nicely, well, sorta nicely.. before getting curt as frustration built) half a dozen times to just answer my question(s).

If you really want I'll try to uncover, but these pages move pretty quick so I'd have to dig.  Don't mind doing it though. 

 
Drain the swamp.  To review, Podesta's buddy at the DOJ has been put in charge of the new investigation, which led to charges of nepotism and a new brewing cover-up.

Now let's add an email from his son to Podesta describing his "quest" for Hillary, and his application to work on the campaign

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/40450

Special prosecutor.  Now.

 
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Koya said:
I clearly said, it's not an insult to point out a pattern of behavior. I'm still waiting over a week for a series of questions where you just :lmao:  as replies.  Is what it is. 
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Again for third time I pointed you to an answer. You want to ignore that for some reason while complaining about others that ignore you. Weird but explains why I don't think you're really all that interested in a discussion. 

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Again for third time I pointed you to an answer. You want to ignore that for some reason while complaining about others that ignore you. Weird but explains why I don't think you're really all that interested in a discussion. 
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you pointed to one answer, not even given by you.  Want me to actually rehash the series of questions from last week that got me to tilt with your lack of response in the first place? If you actually go forth and answer, legitimately for each question, I'll humbly apologize.  Even if it's going on more than a week now for you to answer one question, by not even answering it yourself.

As I said, is what it is. 

 
Koya said:
It was a series of questions last week. Literally between a half dozen or dozen in a number of posts.  To the point where I probably asked (nicely, well, sorta nicely.. before getting curt as frustration built) half a dozen times to just answer my question(s).

If you really want I'll try to uncover, but these pages move pretty quick so I'd have to dig.  Don't mind doing it though. 
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You're frustrated that you aren't getting answers to your questions that you can't even remember without going back to look?  Probably not worth getting frustrated over if you can't even remember them.  

 
Koya said:
you pointed to one answer, not even given by you.  Want me to actually rehash the series of questions from last week that got me to tilt with your lack of response in the first place? If you actually go forth and answer, legitimately for each question, I'll humbly apologize.  Even if it's going on more than a week now for you to answer one question, by not even answering it yourself.

As I said, is what it is. 
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So you're not interested in the topic just getting me in particular to type it?  You're right it is what it is. 

I don't care what you rehash. I told you a week ago I wasn't taking your stinky bait. You seem obsessed with me though when plenty others will actually answer your questions.  Weird. 

 
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