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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (7 Viewers)
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McGarnicle
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jonessed
Footballguy
I'm not an expert on email decryption and security but apparently DKIM is an extremely reliable way to verify the authenticity of many of these. That's how CNN called bull#### on Brazile and let her go.
Rohn Jambo
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They don't even have to hack Hillary's server. Just find someone willing to vacuum her carpets.
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Footballguy
Fixed.
BTW, while we are focusing our attention on the quote from the Republican party official, we're glossing over the follow up quote from Trump which IMO is even worse ("certain key Democratic polling locations were kept open to bus Democratic voters in").
cstu
Footballguy
tommyboy
Footballguy
Maybe he just hates Hillary with the power of 1000 burning Suns, like a lot of people.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Democrats have really changed their feelings about Russia over the past 4 years.
[scooter]
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
Which is all the more obvious that it was exclusively thing that would hurt HRC's chances. Why no Trump tax returns or emails? Its an obvious gambit to sway an election. Why do the Repubs hate democracy?
timschochet
Footballguy
I never hated Russia. Always plan on going there in fact.
I hated Communism. And I'm not too fond of Putin. If they could get rid of him we could do a lot of good things together.
beavers
Footballguy
I'm not a MSM hater, but I do not take what they say at face value either. In fact, I've had personal experience of having first hand knowledge of a story (non political) and media of all sorts had reported so many inaccuracies that it made no sense. Media is so sensationalized and a rush to ratings, that investigative reporting and factual information is not the norm anymore. With that being said, I'm trying my best to sift through the information that I do have, to make the best choice. Fortunately, Donald is such an ####### openly that that's all the information I ever needed.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
Hillary knows she can count on the rigging machine. She raised extra cash to covered the difference. The Republicans don't want Trump to win so impeaching Hillary would be the best scenario from their perspective.
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David Dodds
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I think the betting markets reflect all the early voting which has been very strong for Clinton.
Doctor Detroit
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Can we make moreCan we have more tin foil hat stuff about Putin, the KKK and bugs in the DNC
about the Clinton Foundation or any of the nonsense you are spewing this morning?
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
And the alt right has really changed their opinion about Russia in the last four months. Strange isn't it?
David Dodds
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I do think Russia would prefer a Trump presidency. Hillary and Obama's words lately signal an intention to go to war with Iran and Russia on the Syria pipeline double-cross between Iran and Russia.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
The Football Freak
Footballguy
They mention two possibly forged documents specifically and refer to others. That is why I mentioned it is early reporting on a new investigation, and "may" be pertinent. The FBI asked for more documents and are just getting rolling. It was interesting so I posted, I am not hanging my hat on it yet.
As for the other article pointing out the FBI suspects Russia in the Podesta hack, I'm just passing along what our intelligence community sees. I know I'd want to know if Russia was attempting to influence us. Not a Hillary fan, fyi.
timschochet
Footballguy
Yeah I don't think so. If you believe that you really haven't paid attention to Hillary on this subject. Yes she wants a no fly zone but only with Russia's consent- she wants to negotiate with Russia the conditions under which a no fly zone would be in place. That will be difficult, but don't expect her to put one in unilaterally. There's not going to be any war with Russia.
cstu
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Four years ago Romney said Russia was our 'number one geopolitical foe'.
They weren't then.
They aren't now.
-fish-
Footballguy
no idea who lists odds like that, but Clinton went from about -300 to -600 and is at -400 currently across most books.
Doctor Detroit
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
The bounce back that several of us predicted here has happened:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/06/clinton-leads-by-five-points-nationally-with-large-advantages-on-temperament-and-qualifications-post-abc-tracking-poll-finds/?client=safari
Hillary led by 4 points in this poll 2 weeks ago. After the Obamacare rate hike news and the Comey letter, Trump tied it up. Now Hillary is back up by 5. Bottom line is folks know that Trump just isn't qualified.
And yes this is a national poll. But a 5 point lead in a national poll means the electoral college is sewn up right.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/06/clinton-leads-by-five-points-nationally-with-large-advantages-on-temperament-and-qualifications-post-abc-tracking-poll-finds/?client=safari
Hillary led by 4 points in this poll 2 weeks ago. After the Obamacare rate hike news and the Comey letter, Trump tied it up. Now Hillary is back up by 5. Bottom line is folks know that Trump just isn't qualified.
And yes this is a national poll. But a 5 point lead in a national poll means the electoral college is sewn up right.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Gambling odds for politics are based on the same thing that any other gambling odds are based on which is public perception.
HellToupee
Footballguy
CLINTON CAMPAIGN: If 'whopper' email is published by WikiLeaks in next 2 days, 'it's probably a fake'
Hillary Clinton.REUTERS/Brian Snyder
A spokesperson for Hillary Clinton's campaign said Sunday that if Wikileaks were to publish a bombshell email in the final two days of the election, it would likely not be authentic.
"Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it's probably a fake," tweeted Jennifer Palmieri, the communications director for the Clinton campaign.
For the past several weeks, WikiLeaks has published emails obtained from a hack on campaign chairman John Podesta's personal account. Many messages published have included exchanges that have caused headaches for the Clinton campaign.
The Clinton campaign has repeatedly declined to say whether any of the emails are authentic, but most reporters and political analysts have reported on them as such.
Representatives for the Clinton campaign have, instead, only said the emails were likely the result of Russia trying to use hackers to interfere with the election. The US intelligence community has publicly accused Russia of hacks on Democratic Party organizations.
The Kerminator
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I guess they know there's bad news on the horizon and they are trying to get in front of it.
CLINTON CAMPAIGN: If 'whopper' email is published by WikiLeaks in next 2 days, 'it's probably a fake'
Hillary Clinton.REUTERS/Brian Snyder
A spokesperson for Hillary Clinton's campaign said Sunday that if Wikileaks were to publish a bombshell email in the final two days of the election, it would likely not be authentic.
"Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it's probably a fake," tweeted Jennifer Palmieri, the communications director for the Clinton campaign.
For the past several weeks, WikiLeaks has published emails obtained from a hack on campaign chairman John Podesta's personal account. Many messages published have included exchanges that have caused headaches for the Clinton campaign.
The Clinton campaign has repeatedly declined to say whether any of the emails are authentic, but most reporters and political analysts have reported on them as such.
Representatives for the Clinton campaign have, instead, only said the emails were likely the result of Russia trying to use hackers to interfere with the election. The US intelligence community has publicly accused Russia of hacks on Democratic Party organizations.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Translation: We know they have dirt on us but don't want it to cost us the election.
CLINTON CAMPAIGN: If 'whopper' email is published by WikiLeaks in next 2 days, 'it's probably a fake'
Hillary Clinton.REUTERS/Brian Snyder
A spokesperson for Hillary Clinton's campaign said Sunday that if Wikileaks were to publish a bombshell email in the final two days of the election, it would likely not be authentic.
"Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it's probably a fake," tweeted Jennifer Palmieri, the communications director for the Clinton campaign.
For the past several weeks, WikiLeaks has published emails obtained from a hack on campaign chairman John Podesta's personal account. Many messages published have included exchanges that have caused headaches for the Clinton campaign.
The Clinton campaign has repeatedly declined to say whether any of the emails are authentic, but most reporters and political analysts have reported on them as such.
Representatives for the Clinton campaign have, instead, only said the emails were likely the result of Russia trying to use hackers to interfere with the election. The US intelligence community has publicly accused Russia of hacks on Democratic Party organizations.
ren hoek
Footballguy
I'm not a trump supporter, although I do think he'd be a departure from the neocon globalism we've had for the past 16 years.
What planet are you from where payforplay, election rigging and Citigroup handselecting Obama's cabinet are not bad things?
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Doubt there is anything that would change a vote on either side at this point.
David Dodds
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David Dodds
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Hillary's campaign collapse in these last few weeks has made the Senate a coinflip now.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=2016-forecast
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=2016-forecast
squistion
Footballguy
No. Just giving people a heads up not to accept as gospel, something that can not be independently verified for accuracy. And even if what is released is legitimate, we don't know the context, and as has been proven recently people tend to jump to the wrong conclusions - see Podesta's Hot Dog Stand in Hawaii, which some were claiming in this thread was a gay brothel.
and of course, Podesta attending the Satanic Sprit Cooking dinner (which was so absurd not even Fox News ran with it).
Riversco
Footballguy
Riversco
Footballguy
We have no threat at the moment. The only way another country could become a threat is if the US suffered from a brutal economic crisis far greater than 2008 that forced a shutdown of large parts of the military.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Bottomfeeder Sports
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[scooter]
Footballguy
First, I'm wondering why you used the word "few", which typically means "more than two". Because 15 days ago Hillary had an 85.9% chance of winning (which was just a 3.3% dip from her high mark in mid-August), and three weeks ago she was at 85.5%. So, her campaign clearly was not collapsing a few weeks ago.
Second, I'm curious why you used the word "collapse", which implies that recent events (i.e. Comey's letter and Wikeleaks dumps) were caused by Clinton's campaign. Is there anything about Clinton's campaign in the past 2-3 weeks that caused the "collapse"? You've got Hillary's comments about Comey and the FBI (which were certainly ill-advised), but did those comments actually cause any votes to switch to Trump? It seems to me that anyone offended by Hillary's comments would already be firmly in the Trump camp.
Aside from Hillary's statement about the FBI, has she or her campaign done anything in the past "few" weeks that could be considered to be a major blunder? Because it seems to me that the campaign been fairly steady and focused leading up to Election Day.
edit: and at any rate, I don't think you can accurately describe any campaign as a "collapse" until the final numbers come in. If Hillary gets 300+ EV and wins by 3+%, history certainly will not describe the last few weeks of her campaign as a "collapse".
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The General
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Mario Kart
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Um, don't most Republicans want to lower taxes? That is so you can make more money. Fundamentals or not, most Republicans, under the guise of, "big government bad," want to lower taxes, "to make more money." And, now you fault Clinton for wanting to do that? Weird.
beavers
Footballguy
I have a few college kids in front of me. An African American family behind me. And a lot of white folk. The majority of the area are Trump supporters if you go by yard signs.
eta: first time voting outside of Franklin County, which is overwhelmingly democrat.
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quickhands
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beavers
Footballguy
Or Steelers ?
Just saw some overweight white dude wearing a Hillary for Prison tee shirt. And, although not planned and pure coincidence, I'm wearing my HRC Love Not Hate shirt ?
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