**OFFICIAL Jets 2010 Thread** (1 Viewer)

[Reaper]

Well, it was a fun ride - I'm not hurting this morning like other Jets losses - Heck I'm not hurting as much as the Jets loss to Buffalo this year at home...

The Colts are the Cream of the Crop...

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Yeah, the cap is a questio nmark right now but, with all the moves the Jets have made this offseason, I think The moves are made with an eye to the future and what cap hits are coming up - Where talent is aging and where money can be saved to spend elsewhere...

One of the most important links is right here.... JETS SALARY INFORMATION

But, on to the Jets future... I'll start it off by grabbing a post from the Jets Colts thread:

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As a fan you have to be happy that you're past the ROOKIE head coach and ROOKIE QB thing and both guys come in next year way ahead of where they were. Great experience for them to taste what they did instead of fading out in week 17....

I also think this Indy loss was good in that they really can't sit back and point to their stats without realizing that against the Best offenses they NEED another CB... I think Lito Sheppard is gone and after yesterday, their #1 target is a Cornerback... (take note draftniks - get off the Jets WR kick, they are happy with Braylon for now, cheap)

This defense also needs Jenkins in the middle to reach full potential - All be it now with some great depth with guys who stepped up and who can rotate along the line...

Yeah, agree with all of this. Very sound posting.Jets need a healthy Leon and Jenkins. Pouha played lights out, but I dunno if he could do that again. Rotating Pouha and Jenkins and Devito should provide for a much better interior. I'd still love another DE, but Douglass and Ellis are both solid (I think we can count on one of them getting banged up next year, though).

The big need now is another CB, or two. Wouldn't mind another S, either. Leonhard has quickly vaulted past Rhodes as the best S on the team, and I don't see how the Jets break the bank to resign Rhodes.

The Jets need a playmaker on offense -- I'm just not sure where the fit is. With Washington back, that gives the Jets a lot of talent on offense -- Jones, Greene, Washington, Edwards, Cotchery, Keller. It's not like the Jets are going to all the sudden get a new WR1, bump down all the WRs and run less. I think what they need mostly on offense is depth at WR; in 4-WR sets, the Jets stunk. Forget Smith and maybe Clowney unless he stars in the pre-seaosn again. The Jets need more talent at WR, not necessary more elite talent. I'd pass on the draft and just sign a very solid WR3. After that, the RBs are set if Leon is healthy and the Jets could just use some depth on the OL.

Then focus on the two big needs of the team, CB and pass rusher. Pace underwhelmed this year, Gholston looks about cooked, and Thomas is more of a coverage guy and run stopper than an edge rusher, unfortunately. The Jets need some depth at both LB and S (both were exposed yesterday), so throw that on the list, too.

 

[Reaper]

I'll repeat.... IMO Braylon Edwards is here to stay.

On offense, I really don't see alot of changes except add Leon back hopefully at 100%. Maybe some depth at WR. Possibly a better blocking TE.

Personally, I'd like to see more OL depth added and I'm never against using a top pick on the OL - especially at the end of the 1st round where we pick , i think that's always a sweet spot for a real good Guard......

But, yeah CORNERBACK is the glaring need....

As far as a pass rusher - Jenkins makes a difference alone - The guy IS a pass rusher - Hopefully he stays healthier as part of a rotation also allowing the other guys to play some DE at times.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

I think its about time you guys unleash Vernon Gholston.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Step one . .

Introduce Rex Ryan to a salad.

 

[Reaper]

Then focus on the two big needs of the team, CB and pass rusher. Pace underwhelmed this year, Gholston looks about cooked, and Thomas is more of a coverage guy and run stopper than an edge rusher, unfortunately. The Jets need some depth at both LB and S (both were exposed yesterday), so throw that on the list, too.

It's funny - But, most people are going to look at the Jets and think #1 Defense, on the rise, well ahead of the Offense, the Jets will need to really build up the offense...When in reality I bet they do more on defense... I think this was just the tip of the iceberg for what this defense can be and if they add a few pieces and stay healthy, the offense will get a lot more help - No more last minute Drives against them as well....Pace also started off real slow with the suspension.... One of the big problems they talked about post game yesterday was communication. especially when guys went down - I just think the Defense starts off next year well ahead of anything they had this year as the team concentrates on making the D one of the best. Learning the system won't be a problem now - Rex, like any 2nd year coach, will also be able to make the tweaks he really wants with a real fine base to work off of.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Definitely agree with you Reaper. Offense is pretty much locked - only worry is how Washington comes back so a late pick on a developemental RB wouldn't be bad. But for the most part, there's little we need but oline depth on the offensive side of the ball.

I hope to hear a lot about Ryan and company checking out corners and safeties this draft season. And replacing the failed Gholston experiment I think is a must.

I like the idea of a late guard pick. keep shoring up that line. But that's about the only offensive spot I think we need to have as anything remotely like a 'need'.

WR/TE/QB are pretty solid while Rb needs a little depth but not a ton.

Question: do we think Thomas Jones is back? and if so, is he going to produce He looked ugly this playoff run.

 

[Reaper]

Question: do we think Thomas Jones is back? and if so, is he going to produce He looked ugly this playoff run.

Thomas Jones was injured - Bad knee..... I think he comes back. Sucks but, with Greene out, Ground and Pound was done.....Also - I'll post it if I find it but, Leon is supposedly ahead of schedule.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Thomas Jones was injured - Bad knee..... I think he comes back. Sucks but, with Greene out, Ground and Pound was done.....Also - I'll post it if I find it but, Leon is supposedly ahead of schedule.

Oh yeah once Greene was out, yipes!I think with Washington back and healthy this could really be a very dangerous offense so I hope he is ahead of schedule.

 

[zamboni]

Good posts. Not much to add - agree that secondary help alongside Revis, as well as an outside speed rusher would be great upgrades. And a 3rd WR that can stretch the field (and not run out of bounds like Clowney).

But it's nice when the team is in a position where they just need to build better depth to compensate for future injuries. I'd also like the team to get a better look at Ainge, as Clemens scares me in case Sanchez misses time. Otherwise we need to find another backup QB (maybe a Sage Rosenfels type).

 

[TLEF316]

damn shame that Gholston is an all-time bust. Would have been nice to have what we thought he was going to be on this defense.

 

[Reaper]

Rex said there's a 100% chance of Braylon coming back.....

When asked about Kerry Rhodes he didn't want to answer - IMO he gave Kerry some ultimatums and left it up to him wether he wants to come back....

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'll repeat.... IMO Braylon Edwards is here to stay.On offense, I really don't see alot of changes except add Leon back hopefully at 100%. Maybe some depth at WR. Possibly a better blocking TE.Personally, I'd like to see more OL depth added and I'm never against using a top pick on the OL - especially at the end of the 1st round where we pick , i think that's always a sweet spot for a real good Guard......But, yeah CORNERBACK is the glaring need.... As far as a pass rusher - Jenkins makes a difference alone - The guy IS a pass rusher - Hopefully he stays healthier as part of a rotation also allowing the other guys to play some DE at times.

I agree on guard -- one of the unsung heroes of the team is Brandon Moore. He played really, really well this year, and is only missing the hype to become an elite lineman. But who knows how long Faneca will be around, so they definitely could use a guard. Same goes with Woody; Brick is awesome, too, but for all the big names, the right side of the line might be better than the left side.Corner is definitely the glaring need. I'd love to get Shipley (WR, UT) in the third round. He'd be the perfect guy to add depth to the Jets. He's ready to play right away, as opposed to most rookies, and I think he's going to be a very good inside WR. With Cotchery and Edwards on the outside, I'd love him as the WR3.Something like:1) CB/Pass rusher/G2) CB/Pass rusher/G3) ShipleyWould be great.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

Seems pretty accurate

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Good posts. Not much to add - agree that secondary help alongside Revis, as well as an outside speed rusher would be great upgrades. And a 3rd WR that can stretch the field (and not run out of bounds like Clowney).

I'd like to see them continue with trying to convert Danny Woodhead to a slot WR - they abandoned it after Washington went down. The guys has great speed/quicks and has shown decent enough hands - I think he can cause some havoc to oppsoing defenses who will have to gear up to stop the run.

 

[Kiddnets]

Too bad that final 8 rule will keep the JEts from signing any quality FAs. This makes the draft even more important. Hopefully they will trade down or deal Rhodes and acquire a few more picks. Would like to see:

Veteran QB backup - return of Chad?

RB in late rds for flexibility with TJ

DB help to replace Sheppard and Rhodes

OL Depth

The return of Leon and Jenkins will help quite a bit....maybe trader Tanny has a deal in him too. Rex and Sanchez gained so much experience this year butit may be a slight step back in 2010 before I see this team among the true elite....

 

[Rovers]

The Jets have one hand tied behind their back in this draft. They have a late 1, a late 2, Philly's 4th and a 6th and 7th.

CB is the glaring need, but they may need a S as well, no news yet on Rhodes. They won't be able to do anything with RFA's, and the FA pool has slim pickings. An OG sure would be nice to get, but I don't think they take one in the first or second.

 

[Sweet Love]

The Jets have one hand tied behind their back in this draft. They have a late 1, a late 2, Philly's 4th and a 6th and 7th. CB is the glaring need, but they may need a S as well, no news yet on Rhodes. They won't be able to do anything with RFA's, and the FA pool has slim pickings. An OG sure would be nice to get, but I don't think they take one in the first or second.

I'll throw this out there, but if there is not a cap in 2010, would this be the time to move Gholston for an OG/CB back up with potential. On paper, I THINK it would be OK, as the bonus monies would not accelerate to the cap, and I also believe that typically rookies have low bases, so a team may be willing to take a chance on him. Sure Woody Johnson would feel the mistake in his actual pocket, but if they could move him for a good backup or a mid round pick, it would be better than nothing.To the poster that mentioned it is time to "release" the Gholston, unfortunately he has and he has been "weighed, measured and left wanting"...P.S. Happy to be part of my Jets offseason thread!

 

[Reaper]

The Jets have one hand tied behind their back in this draft. They have a late 1, a late 2, Philly's 4th and a 6th and 7th. CB is the glaring need, but they may need a S as well, no news yet on Rhodes. They won't be able to do anything with RFA's, and the FA pool has slim pickings. An OG sure would be nice to get, but I don't think they take one in the first or second.

One thing that I do think leans in their favor is that their CB need is lining up with this draft....There looks to be 5-6 or so CB's rated for 1st - 2nd round grades according to a recent ESPN Insider article... (Rovers - it's posted at GangGreen in the draft room as I'm sure you know)This will allow the Jets to really concentrate on these guys to see if they love one of em and maybe need to trade up or if they love a few of em and feel like they can move down....If this draft was devoid of CB talent things might be a lot worse. I'm confident in the people on the Jets defensive side of the ball to be able to pick out a good CB from this lot.Here are some of the names being discussed:Joe Haden, Florida (5-foot-11⅜, 191 pounds);Kareem Jackson, Alabama (5-11, 195); Kyle Wilson, Boise State (5-9½. 184);Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State (6-foot, 192);Devin McCourty, Rutgers (5-10⅛, 190) --Patrick Robinson, Florida State (5-11⅛, 192); Chris Cook, Virginia (6-2⅛, 203); Dominique Franks, Oklahoma (6-0 192)

 

[Rovers]

The Jets have one hand tied behind their back in this draft. They have a late 1, a late 2, Philly's 4th and a 6th and 7th. CB is the glaring need, but they may need a S as well, no news yet on Rhodes. They won't be able to do anything with RFA's, and the FA pool has slim pickings. An OG sure would be nice to get, but I don't think they take one in the first or second.

One thing that I do think leans in their favor is that their CB need is lining up with this draft....There looks to be 5-6 or so CB's rated for 1st - 2nd round grades according to a recent ESPN Insider article... (Rovers - it's posted at GangGreen in the draft room as I'm sure you know)This will allow the Jets to really concentrate on these guys to see if they love one of em and maybe need to trade up or if they love a few of em and feel like they can move down....If this draft was devoid of CB talent things might be a lot worse. I'm confident in the people on the Jets defensive side of the ball to be able to pick out a good CB from this lot.Here are some of the names being discussed:Joe Haden, Florida (5-foot-11⅜, 191 pounds);Kareem Jackson, Alabama (5-11, 195); Kyle Wilson, Boise State (5-9½. 184);Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State (6-foot, 192);Devin McCourty, Rutgers (5-10⅛, 190) --Patrick Robinson, Florida State (5-11⅛, 192); Chris Cook, Virginia (6-2⅛, 203); Dominique Franks, Oklahoma (6-0 192)

Haden has to be gone by the time the Jets pick, but there are still some good ones the have a shot at. Since you go to TGG, (I'm TBJ over there) you know about the Smith's getting tagged. For others:Brad Smith WR and Eric Smith S have been tagged as RFA, no word, but likely low tenders. No way ES gets an offer, but Brad Smith may get some interest. I believe it would be a second rounder as compensation, which the Jets just might go for if it happens at all. BS has some value as a ST's ace, wildcat guy, extra WR and maybe even as a 3rd string QB. He isn't a great return man, but he can do that too. He did break one for a TD this year. Reaper, what's your SN at TGG? PM if you prefer...

 

[Reaper]

Rovers I didn't see those guys were tagged - No way anyone gives up a 2 for Brad Smith either though.....

The only thing I saw over there today were the babes Sanchez and Revis picked up this off season

My name over there is Jet Blue... There are 2 of us though.

 

[Rovers]

Rovers I didn't see those guys were tagged - No way anyone gives up a 2 for Brad Smith either though.....The only thing I saw over there today were the babes Sanchez and Revis picked up this off season My name over there is Jet Blue... There are 2 of us though.

I doubt any team would surrender a 2nd for Smith, but you never know. He is pretty versatile. He has to be a top 15 ST's player, and like I said, he can run the WC, play WR, be a b/u QB and return KO's. I don't think there is another player in the NFL that can do all of those things. Heck, I could see Mangini making him an offer. Mangini is capable of doing some pretty whacky things. Oh... TBJ means ThunderBird Jet... lol. Does anyone else from TGG post here?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

SNY reported last night that Wisenhutt and the Cardinals are very interested in acquiring Kerry Rhodes from the Jets. This led to specualtion that there could be a Rhodes for Boldin deal in the works.

If the Jets plan on vaulting Rhodes anyway, I'd love this deal. Mostly because it may allow them to not offer Braylon Edwards a dime (although they would then lack a downfield threat).

 

[LBH]

Does anyone else from TGG post here?

yup IM AlToon4prez at TGG and jetfan4hire at jetnation. I mostly lurk at the jet sites though Like the rest of you I want to see the Jets address CB and aquire a legit pass rusher. I dont really see the Jets needing WR too badly except maybe for depth and to play the slot. I think the development of Sanchez will go a long way in improving the passing game and the wr production. Cromartie to the Jets rumors dont seem to be going away and i think hed be a pretty good fit.

 

[LBH]

SNY reported last night that Wisenhutt and the Cardinals are very interested in acquiring Kerry Rhodes from the Jets. This led to specualtion that there could be a Rhodes for Boldin deal in the works.If the Jets plan on vaulting Rhodes anyway, I'd love this deal. Mostly because it may allow them to not offer Braylon Edwards a dime (although they would then lack a downfield threat).

I saw this rumor somewhere. We dont really need Boldin, but hell who wouldnt want Boldin on the team. Boldin seems a lot like Cotchery to me. A guy with very good hands that can make yards after the catch. One nice thing about this scenario is that it would elminate Miami from aquiring his services.

 

[TLEF316]

Rhodes actually played well at the end of the year, but its clear that his focus is not on football. He's more interested in his twitter page. So while i wish he could stay and just play football, i wouldnt be sad to see him go. (unless of course, he goes to NE or Miami and regains his focus for a year or 2 to stick it to the jets)

I'd be on board with Boldin over Braylon. While Braylon is younger and did some good things, he drops too many balls. I also think he's gonna want too much money.

I'm about 90% sure Adalius Thomas will be a Jet within the next 48 hours. Just seems like the perfect fit. Does he just plug in opposite Pace in the 3-4? If so, a LB core of Pace, Harris, Scott and Thomas (if he plays to even 75% of what he was in Balt) is just absurd. If we get Jenkins back and managed to find a big time 3-4 DE at some point in the next 2 years, the run defense will just be awesome.

I dont fully understand the FA rules that come with us finishing in the final 8/4. I guess i'll just stop speculating and sit around and wait for news.

Also praying TJ doesnt end up in NE. I think Greene will be the better player at this point, but i'd still hate to see that happen.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

I am sure he probably wouldn't be there, but what are Jets fans thoughts on Mike Iupati? As long as the Jets can maintain a dominating run game they will be contenders and Iupati looks like he could go a long way towards keeping that up.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I am sure he probably wouldn't be there, but what are Jets fans thoughts on Mike Iupati? As long as the Jets can maintain a dominating run game they will be contenders and Iupati looks like he could go a long way towards keeping that up.

They need o-line depth for sure as Faneca and Woody are getting up there and they've been incredibly lucky with their health at o-line, but I don't see anyway Iupati falls to them (I'd love it if he did though).

 

[Reaper]

Back from vacation and digesting all the moves:

1) Rhodes - He was Just not on board with what the D coaches wanted to do - Good luck. I wish they could have gotten more for him but, the writing was on the wall and his bonus was coming up... Really wish Boldin was in this deal or a 3rd rounder.

2) Cromartie - Wow, what a character, not so sure how much I love this deal but, you have to sit back and look at all the options at CB - What were they? The draft looks promising but, Tanny wants things locked up before them to draft for BPA.... That said, It seems to me like the Jets are fine with taking on players that have something to prove in situations where they could be one and done.

A lot of contracts come up for th Jets next year - Could the Jets even fit Cromartie in whatever Cap is present if he plays lights out? I wonder if this deal is a 1 year thing no matter what. Maybe they draft a CB anyway or shop for one again next year and just see what Cro can do for the year - Maybe he signs a friendly deal since the Jets seem to be helping him out??? Doubt it.

I guess losing a 3rd or 2nd rounder for a 1 year rental is a stiff price though.... Again, not so sure I love this move.

3) Thomas Jones - I really hoped things would get done. TJ is a leader on this team and could be sorely missed. I also think this is the best possible situation for TJ. If it were me I'd take a lot less to stick here. But, the Cap hit was too high and I agree with trying to sign him cheaper. I saw a thread that cried about players in this boat and how they should get paid... TJ did get paid.

Sometimes I feel like players don't grasp the concept that the TEAM needs to work within the financial contraints - It's not personal - Rework the deal and come back if this is the Situation that makes you happy.

As RB's go though, there's a few options out there - so, maybe TJ's price comes down or they find a fit with someone else... I'm starting to get concerned with Character and Leadership though when you start looking at guys Like Larry Johnson over TJ and sign Cro.

As for the Draft - Looks like Safety just became a big Priority.... Does Taylor Mays fall? Is he the Gholston of this draft?

 

[TLEF316]

not really fantasy related, but the Jets lost WR Wallace Wright to Carolina.

Obviously no impact on offense, but he was a very good ST's gunner. Probably just as good as Brad Smith. Unfortunatly, he gave us nothing on O and its dificult to keep guys like that on the roster.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Hey Reaper

I'm on the fence with the Cromartie move as well - I can only hope that across from Revis and not being the chief big stud in the secondary helps Cro regain form. He has baggage - and hopefully it has as little impact as Edwards did, but he has more impact than Edwards did on the field.

He and Revis COULD be a ridiculous CB combo.

Agree w/ your points on TJ and Rhodes- though am worried about TB depth w/out Jones and with the distinct possibility Washington might fly the coop as well. Even if LW stays, who knows how he comes back from his injury.

I can only imagine that at some point in the draft the team will look at a back.

 

[Sweet Love]

My whole thoughts with the Cro trade (or one for another CB regardless of who he is/was) was that he at least be a top 30 CB in the league. When you have a guy who is a consensus top 1-2 CB, the other CB gets picked on a lot...sometimes I wonder if a team would be better off with two very good CBs and not one great one, but I digress. Sheppard was not up to the task last year, but I think Cro is a perfect fit given his ball-hawking skills. It has been a while since we could have said this, but the Jets will have more leads going into the 4th than they have had in a while and as opposing teams' QBs start to get desparate, Cromartie could ice some games for the Jets.

He is most likely a one year rental guy, but so was Favre...not that I expect him to have the same impact, but I have no regrets as a fan for the team making that move or this one, yet...

 

[TLEF316]

are we really gonna bring Coles back again? Come on.

How many times can a guy force his way out of a fair contract before we tell him to take a hike?

 

[Reaper]

WOW... A lot has gone down in a short time here but as for the Draft...

SO FAR SO GOOD

We got a guy that a lot of mockers had going MUCH earlier. Charlie Casserly loved the pick and Mike Lombardi called it the best value pick in round one. Gil Brandt and Mike Mayock both had him rated as the #2 CB as well, ahead of Jackson & McCourty....

I posted this yesterday before the draft: Jets draft

IMO, the Jets could possibly go CB - Revis and Cromartie are due for deals soon - Not sure if they can keep both so, CB at this stage might surprise some draftniks..... Rex has also stated that his defense is predicated on great CB play... I'm sure if there was a CB they loved they would look long and hard at finding a guy that could be groomed and play nickel and then possibly take over if Cromartie doesn't work out of asks for more money - Heck, they need another CB in case Cromartie gets suspened.

The draft always has some element of "CRAPSHOOT" to it but, with a concensus pick like this you cannot complain.....

Sounds like the Jets stood Pat and got their guy!!!!!

Good blog post from the Jets site:

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04/23 — As the first round of the NFL’s 75th draft progressed tonight, Rex Ryan became a cheerleader. Boise State’s Kyle Wilson was slipping and Ryan looked and the board and said, “Hang in there.”

And when the Jets went on the clock with the 29th overall selection, Wilson had indeed hung around and was still available. General manager Mike Tannenbaum answered calls from the teams that wanted to move up into the Jets’ slot, but Mr. T said Ryan was “breathing down his neck” and pushed him to put Wilson’s name on the card.

“In this case the board and the need aligned,” Tannenbaum said. “From our perspective, that’s the dream scenario where what you feel like is the most pressing need for your team and the best player pick align.”

The 5’10”, 194-pound Wilson, a Piscataway, N.J., native, was a two-time Boise State captain who had 11 interceptions and averaged 12.6 yards a punt return during his collegiate career.

“The role we have for him is our starting nickel and our punt returner — he’ll compete for the punt returner job anyway and hopefully contribute on special teams,” Ryan said. “We draft a guy in the first round, we’re going to do that where a guy plays [right away], and that’s what Mike and I talked about. If we take a guy in the first round, he’s going to play, and I think Kyle’s going to definitely play for us.”

Wilson, who has 4.4 speed, is coming off a three-interception, 43-tackle senior campaign. He had an impressive bench-pressing performance at the Indy combine, posting 25 reps of 225 pounds, and then starred on the field down in Mobile, Ala.

“He played a lot of man-to-man,” said Joey Clinkscales, the Jets' VP of college scouting. “He had a great Senior Bowl week. He’s also a punt returner and he’s a good tackler.”

There were a number of quality players on the board when the Jets selected, including TCU DE Jerry Hughes and Texas DE/OLB Sergio Kindle. But the Jets, who announced Jason Taylor’s signing on Wednesday, followed their board and were elated to get Wilson.

“This guy was rated over those players and we felt great about this situation. This is a starter in our sub package,” Ryan said. “The fact that we add Jason Taylor to our pass rush already, we feel pretty good about where we’re at defensively. We may end up No. 1 in the league this year.”

The Green & White, who led the NFL in pass defense in ’09, went the trade route earlier this offseason to acquire Antonio Cromartie and now they’ve added arguably the best corner in the 2010 draft.

“We want to line up, play man coverage and come after your quarterback. If you don’t feel good about your corners, you can end up sixth in the league like the one year when we lost everybody,” Ryan said with a smile. “I’m still trying to recover from that.”

Ryan couldn’t hide his giddiness this evening. When Tannenbaum’s opening remarks were interrupted by an odd cellphone noise, Ryan was quick with another witty one-liner.

“I think those were the receivers crying,” he said.

 

[LBH]

I'll repeat.... IMO Braylon Edwards is here to stay.On offense, I really don't see alot of changes except add Leon back hopefully at 100%. Maybe some depth at WR. Possibly a better blocking TE.Personally, I'd like to see more OL depth added and I'm never against using a top pick on the OL - especially at the end of the 1st round where we pick , i think that's always a sweet spot for a real good Guard......But, yeah CORNERBACK is the glaring need....

love how the Jets addressed that this offseason, and loved the Kyle Wilson pick!

 

[TLEF316]

very happy with the pick. At some point last night, someone mentioned that he has a slight problem on deep balls. Well, the good news is they can play him at nickle and ease him into a greater role as Revis and Cromartie cover the outside. Plus, he's apparently a pretty good tackler, which will help if Cromartie continues to suck at that aspect of the game.

 

[TLEF316]

rough day to be a Jets fan.

They cut Faneca, trade up for McKnight (who isnt fast and always gets hurt) and then trades Leon Washington (plus another pick!!!) to the seahawks so we can draft a back up FB who also happens to be the future leader of the global resistance against the machines.

Just when i think things are looking up, they make 3 awful moves like this.

 

[LBH]

rough day to be a Jets fan. They cut Faneca, trade up for McKnight (who isnt fast and always gets hurt) and then trades Leon Washington (plus another pick!!!) to the seahawks so we can draft a back up FB who also happens to be the future leader of the global resistance against the machines.Just when i think things are looking up, they make 3 awful moves like this.

Faneca gave up something like 7 sacks which is very high for a LG so i wasnt heart broken to see him go. Jets needed some new blood in there anyway. Not sure about the McKnight/Connor moves but i think they told us what they thought of Leon when they brought in LT to play the role Washington had last year before the broken leg. Ton of youth in the backfield now with Greene/McKnight/Connor. I would have liked to get better value out of Washington but how much is a 28 yr old 3rd down back coming off a compound fracture really worth on the trade market? I love the guy as a Jets fan but i think what the Jets got is about what i expected

 

[Ministry of Pain]

LaDainian Tomlinson

Stage is set with Leon shipped out. LT will be a huge factor for NY this year. Sure they draft McKnight but he is no threat to take over receiving duties from LT. I think LT will be one of the biggest steals in the draft this year. Great OL in fornt of him, terrific defenses to set up short fields. LT should rack 1,000 yds and 10-12+ TDs rather easily I believe.

Edited to add: Oh Yeah, nice draft Jets.

 

[Black]

Who is John Connor?? RB 5'11" 246 Kentucky

Is he a fullback?

 

[Kiddnets]

Dont sweat Faneca and Leon - JEts finally getting rid of guys a year early instead of a year late.

Faneca could still run block but I believe he is rated one of the worst pass blockers in the league...at his age a year older and its time to say goodbye - not sure if the Umass kid will start or the Nebraska guard they drafted last year - also can see them being aggressive in the Summer - but I for one am not upset at this move

Ditto for Leon - the dude is getting closer to downside fora RB and his entire value was based on speed and being elusive - injury will make that an uphill battle - plus he is still griping and looking for a long term deal that wasn't going to happen. Didnt get great value for the guy but better than nothing - the FB was supposed to be in the best in the draft so we'll see

This draft was Jet/Rex ball - shore up the Defense and load up on ground/pound players - I like it.

 

[Rovers]

I liked the Wilson pick, clearly targeted at the matchup with Indy and Peyton. Teams in the nickel like what, 50% of the time these days? Wilson should be a big help and allow for Ryan to go blitz happy. I also likle drafting a OG, but geeze, they should have kept Faneca. They have to pay him the 5 mil anyway... seems like they are telling us to buy their stinkin PSL's?

Jones and Washington gone, Tomlison and McKnight in. Is that an improvement? I'm not too sure. And it cost a draft pick. What ya wanna bet Chauncey Washington becomes a factor this year at some point? I think Rex and Tanny dumped one player too many from a team one game away from the Super Bowl. Why not dump Gholston instead? Good money after bad on that bust.

Nice start, bad finish. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Late225]

Who is John Connor?? RB 5'11" 246 Kentucky

Is he a fullback?

He's the leader of the resistance in the war against the machines. John ConnorI couldn't resist, lol.

And in terms of football, he's a fullback.

 

[Reaper]

I liked the Wilson pick, clearly targeted at the matchup with Indy and Peyton. Teams in the nickel like what, 50% of the time these days? Wilson should be a big help and allow for Ryan to go blitz happy. I also likle drafting a OG, but geeze, they should have kept Faneca. They have to pay him the 5 mil anyway... seems like they are telling us to buy their stinkin PSL's?

Jones and Washington gone, Tomlison and McKnight in. Is that an improvement? I'm not too sure. And it cost a draft pick. What ya wanna bet Chauncey Washington becomes a factor this year at some point? I think Rex and Tanny dumped one player too many from a team one game away from the Super Bowl. Why not dump Gholston instead? Good money after bad on that bust.

Nice start, bad finish. Hope I'm wrong.

Some people look at the Jets and say - "Look at the new version of the Redskins" But, I think a lot of these tough moves they are making are with an eye on the Salary Cap coming back and the future...

Leon Washington's wife twittered something like "Good luck trying to sign all those guys next year"...

Well, she was right, and that's why Leon is gone... I think the list is:

Revis

Cromartie

Edwards

Harris

Mangold

Holmes

All looking for huge deals with Brick right behind them...

Three of those guys MUST stay - Revis/Mangold/Harris - then one of Holmes / Edwards.

From THIS site it looks like Ellis is due as well.....

I wonder if the Jets are now about to lock up some of these guys this year and if they can front load some of the money.... Maybe that's why "Every dollar counts" when it came to dropping a guy like Faneca.

I can easily see Cromartie, Taylor, and one of Edwards/Holmes gone next year.... To some it's going to be shocking but, the wrtiting is on the wall... That's why I think the Jets decided to sign these 1 year guys with something to prove BUT, a lot of talent where there is no way they could have done what Miami did and locked up the money Brandon Marshall was given...

The Jets are certainly rolling the dice when it comes to the locker room but, they decided to let their "Hold the Fort" guys be Ultra Talent guys who are probably rental projects.

As fans we have to have some faith that Schottenheimer knows enough about what LT has left and that Callahan will have the OL at the same level of play or maybe even better if they felt Faneca was that much of a liabilty....

But, yeah, if I'm running the team, Thomas Jones and Faneca are here for at least another year, again, withouth Tannys' Team Cap knowledge and their overall plan.

The RB depth does scare me with Greene's history and LT's age.... Thinking out loud - Joe Mcknight just might be someone to stash on your Fantasty roster...

 

[TLEF316]

i've come down off the ledge a little bit after a rough saturady. I didn't like the swap of leon for Mcknight at first. However, considering that Leon is 28, coming of a horrible injury and was never used properly anyway, its not a huge deal. Plus, even if they just cut Leon, its not like they missed him down the stretch last year.

I'm no salary cap guru, but unless cutting Faneca makes a noticable diference in being able to re-sign some of the core next year, i think its a bad move. Apparently he's a lousy pass blocker now, but i dont see how they plug someone in for him this year and have it be an improvement. Its either gonna be a rookie from UMASS or 1 of 2 guys who we've never really seen play (Hunter or slausser?). Obviously I'm not Rex Ryan or Bill Callahan, but i hope they know what they're doing.

Loved the Wilson pick. I liked the guard from UMASS (everyone liked him and i've been asking for us to take a 2nd/3rd round G/RT prospect for 3 years now) and was ok with McKnight (its only a 4th rounder and he obviously has some open field ability).

I wish they had used the pick they got for Leon on someone else. Apparently John Conner is a good ST's player, so he'll contribute there. But not spending any picks on the D-line is putting a lot of faith in Devito/Pouha and a healthy return for Jenkins (who i have to think is pushing 350 after 9 months of "rehab" from an ACL tear at his age). They also lost Douglas (although i believe he is still available) and Ellis is nearing the end.

I felt AMAZING about the jets after Thursday night (and to a lesser extent, friday night). But saturday left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. We'll see how it shakes out.

 

[Reaper]

But not spending any picks on the D-line is putting a lot of faith in Devito/Pouha and a healthy return for Jenkins (who i have to think is pushing 350 after 9 months of "rehab" from an ACL tear at his age). They also lost Douglas (although i believe he is still available) and Ellis is nearing the end. I felt AMAZING about the jets after Thursday night (and to a lesser extent, friday night). But saturday left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. We'll see how it shakes out.

One thing I respect is a team that stands by it's values - I repeat this often but, i remember when Parcells was in between jobs and i heard him talk about how in todays NFL, RB's are interchangeable (to a degree of course) and how if you build an OL and an offense the RB can be basically plug and play... That's a spot where he and many GMs feel they can Save Money...I think the Jets also believe this..... I also think the Jets believe they can find DL and make them work in Rex's system...Rex want' CB's, I said that before the draft and have a feeling they would go that way.....The real difference maker on this defense is KRIS JENKINS!!!To me, a healthy Kris Jenkins is a potential top 5 Defensive player in the entire league....Many Jets fans here, myself included, declared the Jets season over last year when Jenkins went down... But, I think it was an eye opening experience to see what Rex Ryan was able to do without him, turning Pouha into something and filling in along the DL....Add Jenkins back and I just hope they can keep him healthy all year.Maybe Pouha plays some DE as well as long as Jenkins is around....

 

[TLEF316]

i declared the Jets dead when Jenkins went down as well. Obviously, i was wrong

Getting him back healthy would be huge. But i just find it hard to believe that he's gonna in good enough shape to hit the ground running once camp starts. He's a very big older guy coming off a very serious injury. Thats a lot of weight to drag around on a bad knee.

 

[Reaper]

I think since settling down Jenkins is much more in tune with his body and the shape he needs to be in.... But, it is a concern..

Also Adalius Thomas was cut.....

I wonder how much the Jets planned on him coming on board with how they avoided that position other than Taylor....

I'd love to see him in NY just as another piece and for some depth.

 

[TLEF316]

i always assumed they would get A. Thomas once he was cut.

Part of the reason i hated the Taylor signing.

 

[Reaper]

i always assumed they would get A. Thomas once he was cut.Part of the reason i hated the Taylor signing.

There were rumors of Bryan Thomas being cut last week - The Jets Shot that down immediateley.I wonder if they shot it down cuz they didn't want there to be a link to Adalius Thomas and tampering stuff..Wonder if Adalius Thomas is signed and Bryan Thomas is let go...Cutting Bryan Thomas saves us 3 Million dollars - They could sign Adalius cheaper cuz he's on the hook with the Pats for more money just like a team can sign Faneca on the cheap.Either way - Schefter just said he think the Dolphins might be in play - I Bet the Fins look at Either Thomas if he's available.

 

[WVU Alum]

Jets have had a decent offseason, but I just don't see them as any better than a 7-9 team right now.