***Official Joe Biden Impeachment Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

ho. I'd appreciate a list of sho approved resources. maybe give me 20 you will accept. I bet I can make my point from those 20.

What are you talking about. Try making any point. you ran away from it in the other thread after being the one complaining about a source.
Try any real source. Not some quack on youtube. Or in your own words show how this was somehow worse than threatening the withholding of military aid to dig up dirt on his opponent. Anything…

give me 20 you will accept. run away away from u? It's cuz the depth of your argument. I just need to know what kind of resources you think are ok? help a dullard out.

You did in the Durham thread yes…
How about any source. Something. Even Fox, AP, BBc, Reuters…something not far right or left who actually has a decemt reputation for facts. A source of facts not just some opinion or bogus paraphrase.

no I'm asking for sources you accept. otherwise how can I build an argument. I'm gonna insist. I asked for 20. you gave me fox reuters BBC ap 16 to go

Dude. You aren’t acting in good faith. I owe you no list. Just try making a legitimate and rational argument and backing it with fact. Start there.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

 

[sho nuff]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

In the last 24 hours you have 26 posts defending Joe Biden. And thats just this thread.
It’s fine. I don’t care if you defend him or not. But how can you write that you don’t defend him lol? And act crazy when someone says you’re a Biden bro?

 

[sho nuff]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

In the last 24 hours you have 26 posts defending Joe Biden. And thats just this thread.
It’s fine. I don’t care if you defend him or not. But how can you write that you don’t defend him lol? And act crazy when someone says you’re a Biden bro?

I defended against a ridiculous comparison that was made. Had the same comparison been made about any politician and it be that bad of a comp, I would have defended. It had little to do with Biden is the point.

How many posts do you or he who posted just after you have where you actually try discussing the topic and not just taking shots at other posters?

Have a thought on this impeachment talk and the comparison that was made when this topic was bumped? Or just more board coo schtick going after me ans other posters?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

In the last 24 hours you have 26 posts defending Joe Biden. And thats just this thread.
It’s fine. I don’t care if you defend him or not. But how can you write that you don’t defend him lol? And act crazy when someone says you’re a Biden bro?

I defended against a ridiculous comparison that was made. Had the same comparison been made about any politician and it be that bad of a comp, I would have defended. It had little to do with Biden is the point.

How many posts do you or he who posted just after you have where you actually try discussing the topic and not just taking shots at other posters?

Have a thought on this impeachment talk and the comparison that was made when this topic was bumped? Or just more board coo schtick going after me ans other posters?

Anything to add here or just more personal shots at posters?

 

[Max Power]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

 

[quick-hands]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

 

[Snotbubbles]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

 

[sho nuff]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

Seems a standard move to leverage our sales to them when they cut oil production which is hurting world wide prices. Saudi seems to be siding at the moment with Putin...putting political pressure on them seems what any POTUS would do...no?

 

[Max Power]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

Dems have been very transparent that they want to suspend the current arms deal with Saudi Arabia and potentially remove technical services to already supplied equipment. Of course they only took this position once OPEC+ said no to their favor. Its basic QPQ stuff.

 

[Max Power]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

Seems a standard move to leverage our sales to them when they cut oil production which is hurting world wide prices. Saudi seems to be siding at the moment with Putin...putting political pressure on them seems what any POTUS would do...no?

Siding with Putin isn't what is happening. The Kingdom released their own statement clarifying this misconception by western media.

 

[quick-hands]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

for the first time Biden talked about inflation getting worse if Republicans win either legislative branch. that will be the talk of January 2023 and a do nothing congress

 

[sho nuff]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

Seems a standard move to leverage our sales to them when they cut oil production which is hurting world wide prices. Saudi seems to be siding at the moment with Putin...putting political pressure on them seems what any POTUS would do...no?

Siding with Putin isn't what is happening. The Kingdom released their own statement clarifying this misconception by western media.

Ahh yes…the Kingdom is very straightforward and honest too. Come on man…

 

[Max Power]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

Seems a standard move to leverage our sales to them when they cut oil production which is hurting world wide prices. Saudi seems to be siding at the moment with Putin...putting political pressure on them seems what any POTUS would do...no?

Siding with Putin isn't what is happening. The Kingdom released their own statement clarifying this misconception by western media.

Ahh yes…the Kingdom is very straightforward and honest too. Come on man…

On par with western media and politicians

 

[Dickies]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

Dems have been very transparent that they want to suspend the current arms deal with Saudi Arabia and potentially remove technical services to already supplied equipment. Of course they only took this position once OPEC+ said no to their favor. Its basic QPQ stuff.

Should have stopped providing SA with weaponry 20 years ago.

 

[sho nuff]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

Seems a standard move to leverage our sales to them when they cut oil production which is hurting world wide prices. Saudi seems to be siding at the moment with Putin...putting political pressure on them seems what any POTUS would do...no?

Siding with Putin isn't what is happening. The Kingdom released their own statement clarifying this misconception by western media.

Ahh yes…the Kingdom is very straightforward and honest too. Come on man…

On par with western media and politicians

Yes. Until proven otherwise i tend to side with that over Saudis and Putin…their track record is far worse than the western world.

 

[HellToupee]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

In the last 24 hours you have 26 posts defending Joe Biden. And thats just this thread.
It’s fine. I don’t care if you defend him or not. But how can you write that you don’t defend him lol? And act crazy when someone says you’re a Biden bro?

I defended against a ridiculous comparison that was made. Had the same comparison been made about any politician and it be that bad of a comp, I would have defended. It had little to do with Biden is the point.

How many posts do you or he who posted just after you have where you actually try discussing the topic and not just taking shots at other posters?

Have a thought on this impeachment talk and the comparison that was made when this topic was bumped? Or just more board coo schtick going after me ans other posters?

Lmfao board cop shtick



From the biggest board cop in the history of board cops

I’m not board copping or going after anyone. I’m explaining to you why posters that read your posts would consider you a Biden bro. Which you deny.
The proof is right here in black and white every day

It’s rinse & repeat , sunrise & sunset. Just a hamster wheel day after day

 

[sho nuff]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

In the last 24 hours you have 26 posts defending Joe Biden. And thats just this thread.
It’s fine. I don’t care if you defend him or not. But how can you write that you don’t defend him lol? And act crazy when someone says you’re a Biden bro?

I defended against a ridiculous comparison that was made. Had the same comparison been made about any politician and it be that bad of a comp, I would have defended. It had little to do with Biden is the point.

How many posts do you or he who posted just after you have where you actually try discussing the topic and not just taking shots at other posters?

Have a thought on this impeachment talk and the comparison that was made when this topic was bumped? Or just more board coo schtick going after me ans other posters?

Lmfao board cop shtick



From the biggest board cop in the history of board cops

I’m not board copping or going after anyone. I’m explaining to you why posters that read your posts would consider you a Biden bro. Which you deny.
The proof is right here in black and white every day

Yet its all you seem to be doing…counting posts…and being critical of other posters.
Right here in black and white seems to be really bad assertions made as if Bidens actions were an impeachable offense. Once again…do you have an opinion on that topic? Or just more snark about me?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I apologize again for saying you don’t spend the day defending Joe
Idk what I was thinking

Care to opine on the topic? Or just another making personal comments? Also. Already predicted this would be the response early on…make bogus claims, it gets refuted easily…then get accused of defending Biden or being a Biden Bro. Rinse and repeat it seams.

In the last 24 hours you have 26 posts defending Joe Biden. And thats just this thread.
It’s fine. I don’t care if you defend him or not. But how can you write that you don’t defend him lol? And act crazy when someone says you’re a Biden bro?

I defended against a ridiculous comparison that was made. Had the same comparison been made about any politician and it be that bad of a comp, I would have defended. It had little to do with Biden is the point.

How many posts do you or he who posted just after you have where you actually try discussing the topic and not just taking shots at other posters?

Have a thought on this impeachment talk and the comparison that was made when this topic was bumped? Or just more board coo schtick going after me ans other posters?

Lmfao board cop shtick



From the biggest board cop in the history of board cops

I’m not board copping or going after anyone. I’m explaining to you why posters that read your posts would consider you a Biden bro. Which you deny.
The proof is right here in black and white every day

Yet its all you seem to be doing…counting posts…and being critical of other posters.
Right here in black and white seems to be really bad assertions made as if Bidens actions were an impeachable offense. Once again…do you have an opinion on that topic? Or just more snark about me?

Again…it’s not snark
There was a conversation about you being a Biden bro. You denied it. I told you I would provide evidence
That’s all there is to it

As far as Joe asking them to not decrease production until after the elections…it’s typical scumbag politician behavior from a typical scumbag lifelong politician

 

[Max Power]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

Dems have been very transparent that they want to suspend the current arms deal with Saudi Arabia and potentially remove technical services to already supplied equipment. Of course they only took this position once OPEC+ said no to their favor. Its basic QPQ stuff.

Should have stopped providing SA with weaponry 20 years ago.

And yet we waited until they said no to the dems

 

[Max Power]

@ti

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Yes and the Dems now want to retaliate politically against Saudi Arabia.

Democrats call for Biden to halt Saudi arms sales in wake of oil production cut

Former Connecticut senator Joseph Lieberman weighs in on the Saudi oil production cut and says the reduced output will affect gas prices on 'Your World.'

www.yahoo.com

Biden threatens 'consequences' for Saudi Arabia after OPEC cut, but his options are limited

What are the Biden administration's options, and could they backfire?

www.cnbc.com

Seems a standard move to leverage our sales to them when they cut oil production which is hurting world wide prices. Saudi seems to be siding at the moment with Putin...putting political pressure on them seems what any POTUS would do...no?

Siding with Putin isn't what is happening. The Kingdom released their own statement clarifying this misconception by western media.

Ahh yes…the Kingdom is very straightforward and honest too. Come on man…

On par with western media and politicians

Yes. Until proven otherwise i tend to side with that over Saudis and Putin…their track record is far worse than the western world.

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

 

[Dickies]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

Dems have been very transparent that they want to suspend the current arms deal with Saudi Arabia and potentially remove technical services to already supplied equipment. Of course they only took this position once OPEC+ said no to their favor. Its basic QPQ stuff.

Should have stopped providing SA with weaponry 20 years ago.

And yet we waited until they said no to the dems

Considering how much the Republicans ***** about gas prices I would think you'd be happy he's trying to prevent SA from cutting production.

 

[sho nuff]

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

Are you talking about SA lying to justify wars and providing aid to terrorists? We are not innocent for sure...but we have a far better record on human rights and being against terrorism than SA does.

 

[BladeRunner]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

Dems have been very transparent that they want to suspend the current arms deal with Saudi Arabia and potentially remove technical services to already supplied equipment. Of course they only took this position once OPEC+ said no to their favor. Its basic QPQ stuff.

Should have stopped providing SA with weaponry 20 years ago.

And yet we waited until they said no to the dems

Considering how much the Republicans ***** about gas prices I would think you'd be happy he's trying to prevent SA from cutting production.

It's almost as if you're deliberately eliminating context from your statement as if that what Biden was really doing.

 

[Max Power]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

looks like the consequence is the united states won't be attending the "defense of Middle East conference" biden is gonna get us in a war

Dems have been very transparent that they want to suspend the current arms deal with Saudi Arabia and potentially remove technical services to already supplied equipment. Of course they only took this position once OPEC+ said no to their favor. Its basic QPQ stuff.

Should have stopped providing SA with weaponry 20 years ago.

And yet we waited until they said no to the dems

Considering how much the Republicans ***** about gas prices I would think you'd be happy he's trying to prevent SA from cutting production.

For 30 days? That doesnt solve the gas prices problem.

 

[Max Power]

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

Are you talking about SA lying to justify wars and providing aid to terrorists? We are not innocent for sure...but we have a far better record on human rights and being against terrorism than SA does.

Yikes

 

[sho nuff]

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

Are you talking about SA lying to justify wars and providing aid to terrorists? We are not innocent for sure...but we have a far better record on human rights and being against terrorism than SA does.

Yikes

Do you think the Saudis have a good track record when it comes to truth and terrorism?

 

[Max Power]

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

Are you talking about SA lying to justify wars and providing aid to terrorists? We are not innocent for sure...but we have a far better record on human rights and being against terrorism than SA does.

Yikes

Do you think the Saudis have a good track record when it comes to truth and terrorism?

No, but if you're going to pretend like the US is innocent of war crimes and doesn't look the other way when it comes to global human rights violations, I don't know where to go with this. The US is in the same tier as those we try to demonize.

 

[Max Power]

Or to think of it another way. If OPEC+ leaves the taps open for another 30 days does that mean they are not siding with Russia anymore?

It's just flawed logic.

 

[sho nuff]

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

Are you talking about SA lying to justify wars and providing aid to terrorists? We are not innocent for sure...but we have a far better record on human rights and being against terrorism than SA does.

Yikes

Do you think the Saudis have a good track record when it comes to truth and terrorism?

No, but if you're going to pretend like the US is innocent of war crimes and doesn't look the other way when it comes to global human rights violations, I don't know where to go with this. The US is in the same tier as those we try to demonize.

I don't believe I did any such thing...just that we have a better track record and believability than the Saudis and Putin.

 

[Max Power]

Proven how? Lying to justify wars? Providing terrorists weapons?

Are you talking about SA lying to justify wars and providing aid to terrorists? We are not innocent for sure...but we have a far better record on human rights and being against terrorism than SA does.

Yikes

Do you think the Saudis have a good track record when it comes to truth and terrorism?

No, but if you're going to pretend like the US is innocent of war crimes and doesn't look the other way when it comes to global human rights violations, I don't know where to go with this. The US is in the same tier as those we try to demonize.

I don't believe I did any such thing...just that we have a better track record and believability than the Saudis and Putin.

Hard disagree. The US is just never held accountable.

 

[sho nuff]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

 

[Max Power]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

 

[shadrap]

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

along with a long, long list of other countries. torture works-IMHO
for another thread though. sorry.

 

[Max Power]

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

along with a long, long list of other countries. torture works-IMHO
for another thread though. sorry.

Id disagree there. Torture produces faulty intelligence a lot of the time and as a person who deploys for the military, I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that. The payoff isnt worth it in my eyes.

 

[shadrap]

Id disagree there. Torture produces faulty intelligence a lot of the time and as a person who deploys for the military, I'd hate to be on the receiving end of that. The payoff isnt worth it in my eyes.

you would know more about it than me so okay.

 

[sho nuff]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

 

[Max Power]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

Go for it.

This started because you questioned the trustworthyness of SA because of their unethical history. Yet portray that the US is to be believed until proven wrong when we have just as shady of a history.

 

[sho nuff]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

Go for it.

This started because you questioned the trustworthyness of SA because of their unethical history. Yet portray that the US is to be believed until proven wrong when we have just as shady of a history.

I portrayed it as if trust the US and our media over Saudi Arabia given their history of attrocities and you jumped to their defense.

10 ways that Saudi Arabia violates human rights

As Saudi Arabia secures top footballers, takes over UK clubs and seeks to host the 2030 men's world cup, find out 10 ways the oil rich country violates human rights.

www.amnesty.org.uk

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I can go on…they have a terrible track record on so many issues…

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

Go for it.

This started because you questioned the trustworthyness of SA because of their unethical history. Yet portray that the US is to be believed until proven wrong when we have just as shady of a history.

I portrayed it as if trust the US and our media over Saudi Arabia given their history of attrocities and you jumped to their defense.

10 ways that Saudi Arabia violates human rights

As Saudi Arabia secures top footballers, takes over UK clubs and seeks to host the 2030 men's world cup, find out 10 ways the oil rich country violates human rights.

www.amnesty.org.uk

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I can go on…they have a terrible track record on so many issues…

Where do these sources fall in the source cop ranking list?

 

[Max Power]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

Go for it.

This started because you questioned the trustworthyness of SA because of their unethical history. Yet portray that the US is to be believed until proven wrong when we have just as shady of a history.

I portrayed it as if trust the US and our media over Saudi Arabia given their history of attrocities and you jumped to their defense.

10 ways that Saudi Arabia violates human rights

As Saudi Arabia secures top footballers, takes over UK clubs and seeks to host the 2030 men's world cup, find out 10 ways the oil rich country violates human rights.

www.amnesty.org.uk

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I can go on…they have a terrible track record on so many issues…

I didnt jump to their defense. Their track record isnt great. I reminded you of our track record which you dont seem to fully acknowledge.

American propaganda really has people believing we are morally superior to other nations when that isnt the case at all. The US has killed more innocent women and children in other countries than any other nation in modern history.

We waged multiple illegal and illegitimate wars based on lies from our politicians and military leaders and call it humanitarian.

No one views the US in the same light as Americans and we've earned that. So when two countries make opposite claims, siding with the US version every time is just foolish.

Especially when the US version doesnt make any sense.

 

[rustycolts]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

Go for it.

This started because you questioned the trustworthyness of SA because of their unethical history. Yet portray that the US is to be believed until proven wrong when we have just as shady of a history.

I portrayed it as if trust the US and our media over Saudi Arabia given their history of attrocities and you jumped to their defense.

10 ways that Saudi Arabia violates human rights

As Saudi Arabia secures top footballers, takes over UK clubs and seeks to host the 2030 men's world cup, find out 10 ways the oil rich country violates human rights.

www.amnesty.org.uk

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I can go on…they have a terrible track record on so many issues…

I didnt jump to their defense. Their track record isnt great. I reminded you of our track record which you dont seem to fully acknowledge.

American propaganda really has people believing we are morally superior to other nations when that isnt the case at all. The US has killed more innocent women and children in other countries than any other nation in modern history.

We waged multiple illegal and illegitimate wars based on lies from our politicians and military leaders and call it humanitarian.

No one views the US in the same light as Americans and we've earned that. So when two countries make opposite claims, siding with the US version every time is just foolish.

Especially when the US version doesnt make any sense.

Some people don't like to face hard truths especially when it's about their own country.

 

[sho nuff]

Well...we will I guess agree to disagree...I think without going back to Slavery and prior to that we are clearly so much better in regard to human rights...and as far as terrorism, well, its hard to overstate how bad SA is on that.

It wasnt that long ago the US government was running torture programs that were in violation of international laws.

Sure...again...we are not innocent in any of this.
Do you really want a list of the attrocities in Saudi Arabia? I mean, surely you are aware of just how awful that country is when it comes to human rights.

Go for it.

This started because you questioned the trustworthyness of SA because of their unethical history. Yet portray that the US is to be believed until proven wrong when we have just as shady of a history.

I portrayed it as if trust the US and our media over Saudi Arabia given their history of attrocities and you jumped to their defense.

10 ways that Saudi Arabia violates human rights

As Saudi Arabia secures top footballers, takes over UK clubs and seeks to host the 2030 men's world cup, find out 10 ways the oil rich country violates human rights.

www.amnesty.org.uk

Freedom Index by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I can go on…they have a terrible track record on so many issues…

I didnt jump to their defense. Their track record isnt great. I reminded you of our track record which you dont seem to fully acknowledge.

American propaganda really has people believing we are morally superior to other nations when that isnt the case at all. The US has killed more innocent women and children in other countries than any other nation in modern history.

We waged multiple illegal and illegitimate wars based on lies from our politicians and military leaders and call it humanitarian.

No one views the US in the same light as Americans and we've earned that. So when two countries make opposite claims, siding with the US version every time is just foolish.

Especially when the US version doesnt make any sense.

Some people don't like to face hard truths especially when it's about their own country.

And some like to downplay how bad Saudi Arabia is for some reason

 

[rustycolts]

And some like to downplay how bad Saudi Arabia is for some reason

Saudi Arabia is not in our league and not even in the same neighborhood. Russia may be close if you only count the last 100 years. Now if you go back 200 years there is no one who is even close to being better at killing others in conflicts than the US. If you don't think we have tortured more than our share of people during these conflicts then I would say you are misinformed. I would say we smoke the Saudis in that department.

The World’s Most Warring Nation

The history of US foreign policy is a violent and bloody one, although this is not necessarily the dominant perception of most Americans. It is in fact, the most warring nation in modern history. It is in this historical context that we have to try and understand its current military involvement...

www.e-ir.info

“The Most Warlike Nation in the History of the World”, Hidden Empire, Propaganda, and Hope

The U.S., Carter said, has been at war for all but 16 years of its 242-year history. (China and Vietnam actually fought a brief border war in early 1979, weeks after normalization of U.S.-China relations.) He called the United States “the most warlike nation in the history of the world,” because of

vridar.org

GT investigates: US war-mongering under guise of ‘democracy’ inflicts untold damage on the world - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[sho nuff]

Warring sure. Terrorism. human rights and so on which is what I referred to…you keep ignoring that.

 

[Summer Wheat]

The OPEC+ request was clearly political and meant to improve the Dem chances during the mid-terms. "Consequences" as a result of this will also be entirely political.

Might be looking at a quid pro quo impeachment coming up. Arms and oil are about the same thing nowadays.