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Official John Kasich 2016 thread (1 Viewer)

He did well coming across as reasonable and not a caricature like most of the clowns on stage. I'd like to hear more.

 
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
:goodposting:

 
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
:goodposting:
Makes sense to vote for the person you like less.

 
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
:goodposting:
Makes sense to vote for the person you like less.
It's all about the 'D'.

 
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
He's actually had a few battles with state legislature republicans here in Ohio (The medicare expansion was a big fight) so I don't think he's the type that would just sign something because the republicans passed it in the house.

 
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He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.

 
He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.

 
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
I said last night that I'd vote for him, but being so early in the election cycle, the point you bring up totally escaped. There's no way I could vote to have that happen. Hillary it is I guess.

 
I love the sentiment expressed above about separation of powers and conflict, but I never thought it was a real one expressed by advocates of an ideology.

Then again, "standing athwart history yelling stop!" isn't much of an ideology; so maybe it's a deeply conservative sentiment.

That said, the inexorable movement of government towards debt and the centralization and politicization of all things gives one pause. Maybe we need to stand athwart history yelling "roll it back!"

 
There is indeed a debate within Republican politics whether to chase independent-leaning voters versus playing toward registered voters and the base. The poll results show weird findings, if Real Clear Politics' top editor, Sean Trende is to be trusted on the issue.

eta* I'd recommend him to the lay reader and even the astute and savvy one.

 
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He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.
Well, Rand Paul, but as much as I agree with him on the issues, the guy comes off as a total dooshbucket sometimes and doesn't have the qualities to be a President, IMO.

I know what I'm saying is a 180 from the days when I'd cheerlead for Ron Paul, but you've gotta perform as a Prez and I just don't think Rand has "it" to do the job.

Plus if the Dems actually make Bernie the nominee, that pretty much puts me on -insert ANY GOP candidate here-'s bandwagon.

 
He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.
Well, Rand Paul, but as much as I agree with him on the issues, the guy comes off as a total dooshbucket sometimes and doesn't have the qualities to be a President, IMO.

I know what I'm saying is a 180 from the days when I'd cheerlead for Ron Paul, but you've gotta perform as a Prez and I just don't think Rand has "it" to do the job.

Plus if the Dems actually make Bernie the nominee, that pretty much puts me on -insert ANY GOP candidate here-'s bandwagon.
I guess there's some potential there. It would be interesting to see if that actually came to fruition. Every republican claims to be small government and still the government continues to grow. I guess the big difference is that unlike the rest of the small government republicans that just divert funds from other parts of government to the military, Paul seems serious about minimizing our involvement in foreign affairs.

 
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ( R )? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or are you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?

 
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He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.
Ted Cruz said that...
This might help you
Ted Cruz said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrOw-f2gyk

 
His state loves him. That's huge.

eta: lol...so it seems!

 
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He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.
Ted Cruz said that...
This might help you
Ted Cruz said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrOw-f2gyk
:lol:

 
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He did a great service for the GOP when he answered the gay marriage question. That issue is over. The people have spoken. Accept it, move on and focus your energy on something else.

 
proninja said:
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?
First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.

How qualified someone is for the job and their experience is one data point we have with which to make a decision. Their individual stance on the issues is another. The party someone is affiliated with is another example. We all need to make the best decision we have, and I prefer to take as many data points as I have into consideration.

I'm not really sure why this is hard to understand. It's laughable that you think I'm some sort of partisan hack. The last three presidents I've voted for have been a R, D, and Libertarian. No idea who I'm going to vote for this go around yet, but I'm watching all the primaries.

The beliefs of the Republican base that their politicians have to pander to are their biggest problem, imo. I'm not in love with any other party, but none of them are as crazy as you guys. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you. :shrug:
Rubio screwed that one up

 
proninja said:
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?
First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.

How qualified someone is for the job and their experience is one data point we have with which to make a decision. Their individual stance on the issues is another. The party someone is affiliated with is another example. We all need to make the best decision we have, and I prefer to take as many data points as I have into consideration.

I'm not really sure why this is hard to understand. It's laughable that you think I'm some sort of partisan hack. The last three presidents I've voted for have been a R, D, and Libertarian. No idea who I'm going to vote for this go around yet, but I'm watching all the primaries.

The beliefs of the Republican base that their politicians have to pander to are their biggest problem, imo. I'm not in love with any other party, but none of them are as crazy as you guys. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you. :shrug:
But Rubio was wrong.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/07/marco-rubio/rubio-says-hillary-clinton-office-longer-any-repub/

 
Kasich holds the line on Common Core supportBy Associated Press

Published: August 19, 2015, 3:53 pm
LONDONDERRY, N.H. (AP) – Ohio Gov. John Kasich isn’t backing away from his support for the Common Core standards, which separates him from many of his GOP rivals.

Kasich says he believes in higher standards, with local school boards developing curricula to meet those benchmarks.

Kasich spoke to a group of education advocates at a forum kicking off a busy day of campaigning in the early-voting state of New Hampshire.

While many of his fellow Republican governors have backed away from Common Core, Kasich says he’s not going to change his position “because there’s four people in the front row yelling at me.” He says, “I just don’t operate that way.”

He also had harsh words for teachers unions, saying, “If I were, not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers’ lounges where they sit together and worry about ‘woe is us.'”
 
proninja said:
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?
First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.

How qualified someone is for the job and their experience is one data point we have with which to make a decision. Their individual stance on the issues is another. The party someone is affiliated with is another example. We all need to make the best decision we have, and I prefer to take as many data points as I have into consideration.

I'm not really sure why this is hard to understand. It's laughable that you think I'm some sort of partisan hack. The last three presidents I've voted for have been a R, D, and Libertarian. No idea who I'm going to vote for this go around yet, but I'm watching all the primaries.

The beliefs of the Republican base that their politicians have to pander to are their biggest problem, imo. I'm not in love with any other party, but none of them are as crazy as you guys. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you. :shrug:
But Rubio was wrong.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/07/marco-rubio/rubio-says-hillary-clinton-office-longer-any-repub/
Horrible line by Rubio. I think he was going Obama 08 there, but he delivered it poorly.

 
proninja said:
proninja said:
I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.

I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?
First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.

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1.33 term as Senator, plus 4 years as SOS. That's our most qualified candidate today? We've taken quite a dip in the most qualified bar.

 
As I said in the debate thread the other night, I'm an aggressive talker. I'm Italian I can't help in. This guy couldn't stand still or keep his hands by his side for more than 2 seconds. He came across as uncomfortable.

 
As I said in the debate thread the other night, I'm an aggressive talker. I'm Italian I can't help in. This guy couldn't stand still or keep his hands by his side for more than 2 seconds. He came across as uncomfortable.
He didn't seem passionate or animated. He just seemed unstable,

 
I love Kasich but he does look like a mental patient between the haircut, all the weird tics and the fact he is always holding his weiner

 
I love Kasich but he does look like a mental patient between the haircut, all the weird tics and the fact he is always holding his weiner
I've been hoping he would gain some traction ...he seems to me to be the best candidate. But it doesn't seem to be happening.

 
I love Kasich but he does look like a mental patient between the haircut, all the weird tics and the fact he is always holding his weiner
Totally agree. That twitching is out of control. I do like him but he is pretty much unelectable with that look.
 
Good info Rove, I was unaware he was even polling right now. I thought he had fallen to the point of perhaps moving to the other debate prior to the main event.

I like a lot of what Kasich has done and in Ohio it sounds like they had the right guy but I just don't see his vision translating and also the other night he went right into tax cuts for business and I'm moving away from that position hard right now.

I also don't think Trump will take Kasich who offers nothing on the ticket right now in the way of votes.

 
He's got my vote if he makes it, but I'm good with keeping him in Ohio as well

People will always complain about where you cut. This guy is serious about cutting spending and is willing to take the heat for it. That should be appealing at the national level rather than a negative.

 
Stop reading your resume. We get it, you have done a lot with a lot of different folks, a true political whore. I'm kidding, in general he is a calm voice. I would feel fine trusting him to run the state of Florida. I am not hot on his foreign policy but he would hire the right folks to help him. He isn't stupid, think we can all agree on that.

 
Really hoping for a strong showing from Kasich in NH. I'll have to do a review, but as a Republican candidate, he is the only one that does not check the crazy boxes. Should he somehow, some way get the nomination, he'd be an easy choice over Hillary. Unfortunately, I don't think he can overcome the abundance of squeaky wheels in the GOP.

Heard comment on radio earlier today that if he stays in after New Hampshire that he will go light in Nevada and SC and focus heavily on Michigan. Assuming that whole OSU/UM rivalry thing is not a deal breaker and he finds a way to win in Michigan, he'd be a serious contender at that point.

 
The calendar works against him big time unless he can make a good showing tomorrow. He doesn't have much appeal in SC and NV and doesn't have the money for Super Tuesday.

 

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