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He did well coming across as reasonable and not a caricature like most of the clowns on stage. I'd like to hear more.
proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
Makes sense to vote for the person you like less.proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.![]()
It's all about the 'D'.Makes sense to vote for the person you like less.proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.![]()
He's actually had a few battles with state legislature republicans here in Ohio (The medicare expansion was a big fight) so I don't think he's the type that would just sign something because the republicans passed it in the house.proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
I said last night that I'd vote for him, but being so early in the election cycle, the point you bring up totally escaped. There's no way I could vote to have that happen. Hillary it is I guess.proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
Well, Rand Paul, but as much as I agree with him on the issues, the guy comes off as a total dooshbucket sometimes and doesn't have the qualities to be a President, IMO.Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
I guess there's some potential there. It would be interesting to see if that actually came to fruition. Every republican claims to be small government and still the government continues to grow. I guess the big difference is that unlike the rest of the small government republicans that just divert funds from other parts of government to the military, Paul seems serious about minimizing our involvement in foreign affairs.Well, Rand Paul, but as much as I agree with him on the issues, the guy comes off as a total dooshbucket sometimes and doesn't have the qualities to be a President, IMO.Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
I know what I'm saying is a 180 from the days when I'd cheerlead for Ron Paul, but you've gotta perform as a Prez and I just don't think Rand has "it" to do the job.
Plus if the Dems actually make Bernie the nominee, that pretty much puts me on -insert ANY GOP candidate here-'s bandwagon.
Ted Cruz said that...Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ( R )? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or are you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
This might help youTed Cruz said that...Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Ted Cruz said thisThis might help youTed Cruz said that...Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
Ted Cruz said thisThis might help youTed Cruz said that...Who the heck isn't? As one of the moderator asked, there's all this talk of smaller government, but it still continues to grow year after year even when the gop is in charge.He is a bit too "big government" than I'd like, but I actually like Kasich as a candidate because he comes across as genuine in what he says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrOw-f2gyk
Rubio screwed that one upproninja said:First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
How qualified someone is for the job and their experience is one data point we have with which to make a decision. Their individual stance on the issues is another. The party someone is affiliated with is another example. We all need to make the best decision we have, and I prefer to take as many data points as I have into consideration.
I'm not really sure why this is hard to understand. It's laughable that you think I'm some sort of partisan hack. The last three presidents I've voted for have been a R, D, and Libertarian. No idea who I'm going to vote for this go around yet, but I'm watching all the primaries.
The beliefs of the Republican base that their politicians have to pander to are their biggest problem, imo. I'm not in love with any other party, but none of them are as crazy as you guys. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you.![]()
But Rubio was wrong.proninja said:First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
How qualified someone is for the job and their experience is one data point we have with which to make a decision. Their individual stance on the issues is another. The party someone is affiliated with is another example. We all need to make the best decision we have, and I prefer to take as many data points as I have into consideration.
I'm not really sure why this is hard to understand. It's laughable that you think I'm some sort of partisan hack. The last three presidents I've voted for have been a R, D, and Libertarian. No idea who I'm going to vote for this go around yet, but I'm watching all the primaries.
The beliefs of the Republican base that their politicians have to pander to are their biggest problem, imo. I'm not in love with any other party, but none of them are as crazy as you guys. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you.![]()
Kasich holds the line on Common Core supportBy Associated Press
Published: August 19, 2015, 3:53 pm
LONDONDERRY, N.H. (AP) – Ohio Gov. John Kasich isn’t backing away from his support for the Common Core standards, which separates him from many of his GOP rivals.
Kasich says he believes in higher standards, with local school boards developing curricula to meet those benchmarks.
Kasich spoke to a group of education advocates at a forum kicking off a busy day of campaigning in the early-voting state of New Hampshire.
While many of his fellow Republican governors have backed away from Common Core, Kasich says he’s not going to change his position “because there’s four people in the front row yelling at me.” He says, “I just don’t operate that way.”
He also had harsh words for teachers unions, saying, “If I were, not president, but if I were king in America, I would abolish all teachers’ lounges where they sit together and worry about ‘woe is us.'”
Horrible line by Rubio. I think he was going Obama 08 there, but he delivered it poorly.But Rubio was wrong.proninja said:First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
How qualified someone is for the job and their experience is one data point we have with which to make a decision. Their individual stance on the issues is another. The party someone is affiliated with is another example. We all need to make the best decision we have, and I prefer to take as many data points as I have into consideration.
I'm not really sure why this is hard to understand. It's laughable that you think I'm some sort of partisan hack. The last three presidents I've voted for have been a R, D, and Libertarian. No idea who I'm going to vote for this go around yet, but I'm watching all the primaries.
The beliefs of the Republican base that their politicians have to pander to are their biggest problem, imo. I'm not in love with any other party, but none of them are as crazy as you guys. Sorry if that's not PC enough for you.![]()
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/07/marco-rubio/rubio-says-hillary-clinton-office-longer-any-repub/
1.33 term as Senator, plus 4 years as SOS. That's our most qualified candidate today? We've taken quite a dip in the most qualified bar.proninja said:First, Rubio said it best - if we were voting for the most qualified, we'd be voting for Hillary.So you were really impressed with him and would vote for somebody you consider less qualified? Seems back###wards to me. I would hope most intelligent voters would vote for the best qualified candidate. Not vote based on the letter behind the persons name. Why do we even put names on the ballot? Why not just put a (D) or ®? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for the more qualified candidate and then vote for a (D) in the next senate/congressional race? Or or you just trying to rationalize who you were already going to vote for anyway?proninja said:I was really impressed. He seemed conservative but at the same time very reasonable, compassionate, and sane. None of which I expected to hear at all last night.
I probably still won't vote for him even if he were the nominee and going against someone I like less because the prospect of the republicans controlling the white house, senate, and house terrifies me. Even if I like the guy in the white house.
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He didn't seem passionate or animated. He just seemed unstable,As I said in the debate thread the other night, I'm an aggressive talker. I'm Italian I can't help in. This guy couldn't stand still or keep his hands by his side for more than 2 seconds. He came across as uncomfortable.
I've been hoping he would gain some traction ...he seems to me to be the best candidate. But it doesn't seem to be happening.I love Kasich but he does look like a mental patient between the haircut, all the weird tics and the fact he is always holding his weiner
Totally agree. That twitching is out of control. I do like him but he is pretty much unelectable with that look.I love Kasich but he does look like a mental patient between the haircut, all the weird tics and the fact he is always holding his weiner