Uruk-Hai
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Too bad. I bet the crowd would've gone nuts. Man, could that guy play.
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Eastwood
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Between what's already on roster and Shabazz, Parker, Parker, and Randle, they feel pretty happy and knew they wouldn't have a scholarship for him. This is a great kid and I wish him the best.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
Frostillicus
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Oh, ok.Between what's already on roster and Shabazz, Parker, Parker, and Randle, they feel pretty happy and knew they wouldn't have a scholarship for him. This is a great kid and I wish him the best.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Admit it: you were wondering.BTW, I f'ing whiffed today.Oh, ok.Between what's already on roster and Shabazz, Parker, Parker, and Randle, they feel pretty happy and knew they wouldn't have a scholarship for him. This is a great kid and I wish him the best.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
It happens. Run it out again tomorrow for kicks. Next year we'll fire it up from day one at low levels and, assuming you're doing the digging, refine it until it works. If we lose money it'll be ok because I plan to make boatloads again.Admit it: you were wondering.BTW, I f'ing whiffed today.Oh, ok.Between what's already on roster and Shabazz, Parker, Parker, and Randle, they feel pretty happy and knew they wouldn't have a scholarship for him. This is a great kid and I wish him the best.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
Tony? Isn't he more or less down to Ohio St. and UCLA? Or, is this another Parker that Duke's on?Between what's already on roster and Shabazz, Parker, Parker, and Randle, they feel pretty happy and knew they wouldn't have a scholarship for him. This is a great kid and I wish him the best.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
TobiasFunke
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JabariSome people count chickens before they're hatched, but it takes a special kind of fan to count them when they're just a gleam in a rooster's eye.Tony? Isn't he more or less down to Ohio St. and UCLA? Or, is this another Parker that Duke's on?Between what's already on roster and Shabazz, Parker, Parker, and Randle, they feel pretty happy and knew they wouldn't have a scholarship for him. This is a great kid and I wish him the best.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
jeter23
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Reports around UK fan base today was that some Memphis AAU coach said he is a lock for the Wildcats. I did not have the feeling that he was leaning towards UK, but would be glad to have him, especially since this class has been slow to develop for Cal.I heard Poythress trimmed Duke.
You think he'll make it to Duke even if he commits to UCLA this weekend or during the next week?Here's what he said about a Duke visit in a recent interview:
If you are that high on Duke, do you really say you may visit them if you don't make a decision before then?
Eastwood
Footballguy
I don't think you can trust much anything of what he says. Most people said 6 months ago he was a lock for OSU. Then he "fell in love" with Memphis, who is now out of the picture. He hasn't really showed his hand anywhere from what I've seen. So to answer your question, I don't think he will commit to UCLA (or anywhere) before the end of next month. If he does announce for UCLA this weekend then congrats, you'll get a fine player. But as of now there is a definite trip planned to Durham in late October. You may be right, he may not make it there. But as long as Mitch shows up, I'm okay either way.'GDogg said:
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Rodney Purvis is choosing a school Friday. Probably NCSt., possibly Connecticut. Connecticut's done really well lately in terms of getting their #1 choices, probably a combination of the title, Kevin Ollie, and a couple weird situations with Daniels and Drummond.
UCONN is loading up as if they're going to get scholarships back from APR. They have no seniors, and will likely lose Drummond and Lamb IF the NBA stays at 1-and-done. But they'll have Bradley coming back to scholarship and Omar Calhoun already committed. If the NBA moves to a 2 or 3-year rule, then everything will be screwy.
Some kerfuffle in a ham-and-egger newspaper about Drummond's eligibility, but it's not being investigated and doesn't seem to be an issue. But the NCAA still sucks.
UCONN is loading up as if they're going to get scholarships back from APR. They have no seniors, and will likely lose Drummond and Lamb IF the NBA stays at 1-and-done. But they'll have Bradley coming back to scholarship and Omar Calhoun already committed. If the NBA moves to a 2 or 3-year rule, then everything will be screwy.
Some kerfuffle in a ham-and-egger newspaper about Drummond's eligibility, but it's not being investigated and doesn't seem to be an issue. But the NCAA still sucks.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
What the F is this ####? I have futures riding on your info. If he's ineligible prob going to have to kill you.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
The crowd roared when he was introduced. Bill Self tried to talk Manning into playing, and even had a play drawn up for Larry Brown to run for him. Manning spent part of the game as Brown's assistant for Team Blue (starting five of Pierce, Collison, the Morris twins, and Darnell Valentine), and did some sideline reporting. Manning's other Final Four team, the forgotten 1986 club that just steamrolled through the Big 8, got some burn when Ron Kellogg checked in for Team Blue and bricked some three-pointers. Manning is an all-time favorite at KU. He frequently visited Lawrence during his NBA career, and moved back to Lawrence after he retired. He's gotten multiple broadcasting and coaching offers, but he wants to stay at KU as Self's assistant until his kids graduate from high school. He's been a great resource for the program as a fundraiser and in practice - he's the guy most responsible for Aldrich and the Morrises becoming lottery picks. Part of me wants to see him take a mid-major job to see if he can run a program and become a candidate to eventually replace Self, but I think if he leaves KU it will be to call games for ESPN or the Big XII Network.
Bringing it back to the current CBB century... recruits in the stands included KU commits Zach Peters, Perry Ellis, and Conner Frankamp. KU targets Andrew White, Ioannis Papapetrou, Julius Randle, and Marquan Botley were also at the game.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Nobody's worried about this. Relax.
jeter23
Footballguy
Some UK news and updates...
* Mitch McGary and TJ Warren both cancelled visits to Big Blue Madness (1st practice) Warren is going to UNC's practice instead and McGary is rumored to be heading to Michigan.
* Cal's plan to invite former players to UK for the summer/NBA offseason is in full effect. Nearly the entire Celtics and Thunder teams are in Lexington, working out and UK facilities and scrimmaging with the current UK team. Derrick Rose is arriving tomorrow and Bron Bron has already been around the team at time over the past month. Pretty good recruiting tool.
* Mitch McGary and TJ Warren both cancelled visits to Big Blue Madness (1st practice) Warren is going to UNC's practice instead and McGary is rumored to be heading to Michigan.
* Cal's plan to invite former players to UK for the summer/NBA offseason is in full effect. Nearly the entire Celtics and Thunder teams are in Lexington, working out and UK facilities and scrimmaging with the current UK team. Derrick Rose is arriving tomorrow and Bron Bron has already been around the team at time over the past month. Pretty good recruiting tool.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Daniels, Telep, and Goodman all say McGary is leaning towards Michigan. Doesn't seem like a great fit for his game, no?
http://detroit.sbnation.com/michigan-wolverines/2011/10/3/2467284/mitch-mcgary-michigan-basketball-recruiting
http://detroit.sbnation.com/michigan-wolverines/2011/10/3/2467284/mitch-mcgary-michigan-basketball-recruiting
Frostillicus
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6-10 and can hit from the perimeter. Most of the rest of the scouting I've read on him doesn't sound Beilein-y, but he's got the two big keys.
Grady Wilson
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Warren cuts his list to four: UNC, NCSU, Florida, and Georgetown. Based on what a few have told me and what I've read, I think he goes to NCSU. If he does, uggggh not a good 2012 class for UNC.
PG Dominic Artis decommits from UCLA and is looking at UCLA, Cal and Oregon.
People close to Arizona have said that the Arizona staff got in his ear about Kyle Anderson. They told Artis that Anderson would be playing PG and that Howland basically just recruited over him in the same class and told him that they'd be "all in" if he re-opened his recruitment. Unfortunately for Dominic, it appears Arizona changed their mind and are focusing instead on the Italian kid playing ahead of Artis at Findlay Prep.
I liked Artis' game and swagger, and I hope he doesn't destroy UCLA for Cal or Oregon.
People close to Arizona have said that the Arizona staff got in his ear about Kyle Anderson. They told Artis that Anderson would be playing PG and that Howland basically just recruited over him in the same class and told him that they'd be "all in" if he re-opened his recruitment. Unfortunately for Dominic, it appears Arizona changed their mind and are focusing instead on the Italian kid playing ahead of Artis at Findlay Prep.
I liked Artis' game and swagger, and I hope he doesn't destroy UCLA for Cal or Oregon.
Eastwood
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GDogg are you starting to worry about UCLA not getting Parker by now? What about Bazz, still think both are all but done to UCLA? I'm hearing just the opposite, I'd start to worry if I'm a UCLA fan. Just sayin.
TLEF316
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To be fair, you basically said this exact same thing about McGary like 15 posts ago. I've honestly given up trying to "read" these kids or take anything from what "insiders" say. (not a knock on you, just the whole concept of it). 90% of this stuff is proven false at some point. With twitter become so prevalent, these guys are just feeding BS info to everyone to keep the hype going. So, yeah, I give up.Over the course of the last few years, this is basically all the "insider info" that i could remember coming true.(duke related only)- Dawkins coming to Duke early- Kyrie silently verballing during his OV. - Rivers essentially being a duke lock from the get-go once he opened up- Rasheed Saulaimon mostly being a Duke lock And the BS I've heard....- Barnes a Duke Lock (whether he was dishonest with the Duke staff or not, the whole "behind closed doors" thing was absurd)- Myck Kabongo a Duke lock (once he re-opened. I do think there is something to the theory that Duke could have landed him had K not "honored" his previous offer to Cook)- Mitch McGary A duke lock (pretty sure every school this kid has visited has come away thinking they landed him)- Marshall Plumlee and the staff had backed off each other (This was basically sworn to on the Duke boards on several occasions)- Quincy Miller nearly a lock (on at least 2, probably 3 occasions over the course of 2 years)- DeAndre Daniels a done deal (although I believe there were some circumstances here in terms of guaranteed PT)- Roscoe Smith was pretty much a done deal (guys on the Duke boards insinuated that his father was looking for $$$)And I'm sure there's more.I'm still going to follow recruiting because I love basketball and love watching these guys develop over the course of their HS and college years. But as far as getting my hopes up based on insider info, I'm done with it. It's all mis-information and attention whoring by kids who love the spotlight (not like I wouldn't enjoy the attention, just sayin)
Grady Wilson
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What TLEF said. I said many months ago it's pretty silly to gather much info from supposed "insiders". I take their information with a grain of salt. The term itself is pretty ridiculous because everyone seems to think these KIDS are going to stick to their original word. The fact of the matter is they don't, or at least most of them don't. Wasn't it about a year or so ago Shabazz was pretty much a lock for Carolina? That was the word on the street and a lot of Carolina supposed insiders thought he was going to be in Tar Heel Blue. We see how that turned out. And I don't care what anyone says, no one knows with 100 percent certainty about the Barnes recruitment. Not one person on this board has absolute knowledge of what transpired and that's why I sit back and laugh when I see people STILL bent out of shape over his decision. Kids change their minds. It happens and folks either need to deal with or be bitter about it for years and call the kid's family irresponsible or "good".
Anyway, in today's day and age, kids have access to more information and can have the ability to pull the strings over the entire recruitment process. Until the kids sign on the dotted line there is always a chance they will change their mind. Whether anyone likes it or not it's ultimately the KID'S decision. If they change their mind and string colleges along, so be it. That's why I think it's pointless to get wrapped up in what those in the know supposedly have in terms of information. Yes, there are some no brainer commitments such as Rivers, Irving, McAdoo that it was just too obvious, but those are becoming more the exception than the norm.
Anyway, in today's day and age, kids have access to more information and can have the ability to pull the strings over the entire recruitment process. Until the kids sign on the dotted line there is always a chance they will change their mind. Whether anyone likes it or not it's ultimately the KID'S decision. If they change their mind and string colleges along, so be it. That's why I think it's pointless to get wrapped up in what those in the know supposedly have in terms of information. Yes, there are some no brainer commitments such as Rivers, Irving, McAdoo that it was just too obvious, but those are becoming more the exception than the norm.
Nope. Nothing has changed. Parker is not a lock. I never said he was.
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Agree 100% with TLEF here.
Eastwood
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Do you consider Bazz a lock still?
I don't consider anyone a "lock." Ever.Do I think he has decided to go to UCLA already? Yes. Do I believe that a teenager who just started his senior year in high school could change his mind before he decides to sign a letter of intent in the spring signing period? Yes.It would be a shock if he ended up anywhere, but UCLA. His delay in announcing and signing a letter of intent in the early signing period has more to do with Las Vegas and UNLV than it does with Duke or any other school. Word is that UCLA leads for Tony Parker, especially after his official visit to UCLA where Korey McCray sold his mom on the distance issue, which was huge for her. That's it.Shabazz is going to UCLA, barring a change of heart.'Eastwood said:
TobiasFunke
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I agree with most of this, but I don't think this last bit is fair. As I mentioned before either here or in the ACC basketball thread, I think these kids' enthusiasm about multiple programs is genuine, and is nothing new or unreasonable. The real problem is that in the information age we crave instant answers to everything so any time a kid talks about what an amazing time he had at a school or how incredible it was to meet a certain coach, the internet takes it and runs with it.'TLEF316 said:
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
LOL.'NMYMND said:Remember when the Big East thought TCU was a lock? Guess Barnes' mom got in TCU's ear.
Eastwood
Footballguy
Latest Shabazz interview
"Of course everybody wants to know about recruiting. I’ve got seven schools on my list, the same seven schools I’ve had for a while: Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Memphis, Texas A&M, UCLA and UNLV. And even though you might hear different, I’m still interested in every school on my list. There are a lot of people who don’t really know anything about it saying I’m a UCLA lock or a Kentucky lock, but like I said, they don’t know. I just try to ignore it."
"Of course everybody wants to know about recruiting. I’ve got seven schools on my list, the same seven schools I’ve had for a while: Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Memphis, Texas A&M, UCLA and UNLV. And even though you might hear different, I’m still interested in every school on my list. There are a lot of people who don’t really know anything about it saying I’m a UCLA lock or a Kentucky lock, but like I said, they don’t know. I just try to ignore it."
That's awesome. Do you expect him to say, "I'm going to UCLA, but I've decided to wait until spring to make my announcement," if, as many sources have indicated, is the case? Nothing has changed.On another note, Tony Parker sounds like he's torn. He wants to go to UCLA to play with Shabazz and Anderson. But, he also wants to start right away. Ohio St. and Duke are both selling him on the notion that he could start immediately. UCLA can't really sell him on that because Josh Smith might be returning and Parker simply isn't starting over Smith (and he knows that). Duke, in particular, is pushing this by telling him that he would start for them as a Frosh. No matter what, he's got some great options. He'd probably start at UCLA no later than his Sophomore season.Latest Shabazz interview "Of course everybody wants to know about recruiting. I’ve got seven schools on my list, the same seven schools I’ve had for a while: Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Memphis, Texas A&M, UCLA and UNLV. And even though you might hear different, I’m still interested in every school on my list. There are a lot of people who don’t really know anything about it saying I’m a UCLA lock or a Kentucky lock, but like I said, they don’t know. I just try to ignore it."
Eastwood
Footballguy
Gdogg I don't belive he's given the silent verbal to UCLA that you obviously do. I know kids do this all the time, I can name several of Duke's who have done so over the last few years. But the main difference is, while these recruits went on other visits, they NEVER made these public statements saying they weren't decided or still considering other schools. From all accounts, Bazz is a good kid, and has caring parents in his corner. I don't think they are playing the media here. Again, he could very well end up at UCLA, but I think its far from a done deal.
And Parker and OSU aren't exactly close right now from everything I've heard. His parents are all in on Duke, and he's starting to follow that lead. I think Duke lands him, with UCLA being 2nd, ahead of OSU. Just my 2 cents.
And Parker and OSU aren't exactly close right now from everything I've heard. His parents are all in on Duke, and he's starting to follow that lead. I think Duke lands him, with UCLA being 2nd, ahead of OSU. Just my 2 cents.
That doesn't make any sense. The term silent verbal is an oxymoron and overused, but in the recruiting context, a silent verbal means exactly what you just said Duke's silent verbals never do. It means you have privately committed to a program and are publicly stating that you are still open and considering all schools. Do Duke's silent verbals simply ignore all interview requests or questions about their updated recruiting lists? Give me the names of some of them and I'll look them up to see if you're correct. I truly doubt it, though.And, I don't think it speaks negatively about a player or his parents if he chooses not to divulge his choice. There are many reasons why a recruit wouldn't. In Shabazz's case, it has to do with UNLV and Las Vegas. You should see the circus surrounding this kid at practices.
Shabazz could go somewhere else. This is true for all players before they sign a letter of intent. But, if today were the last day of the signing period, I'm extremely confident that UCLA would be receiving a letter of intent from Shabazz. He wouldn't be the first heavily recruited kid to hold out as long as he could. For instance, Kevin Love is a guy who was going to UCLA since sometime in his Sophomore year of high school. He maintained until the day he publicly committed to UCLA that his finalists were all in it and he hadn't decided. Everyone with sources close to him, though, were saying exactly what they are saying about Shabazz. It would take something extreme and unforeseeable happening for him to change his mind and not go to UCLA.
I have no idea who lands Parker. Duke is a tremendous program and Coach K is a fantastic coach. I'm not sure it's a great fit for him personally if he does, indeed, plan on leaving for the NBA as early as he can, but Duke is a fantastic school and a great basketball program. After the way Elton Brand was treated, though, I'd think long and hard about going there if I didn't plan on staying for 4 years.
TLEF316
Footballguy
The Brand stuff was unfortunate, but isn't quite fair to bring up anymore.
He was the first guy to leave Duke early, and the fan base was probably a bit shell shocked after the loss to UCONN in the 99 title game. So a few idiots made some stupid comments. Not excusing it at all, but I think its a serious stretch to use it as a reason that someone shouldn't go to Duke.
It's a different time now. Kyrie Irving is still loved by the fan base (despite only playing 11 games and leaving even though the NBA may not even play this year), and Rivers has been embraced knowing full well that he'll be out the door at the first opportunity. If you go back further, there are plenty of examples of guys that left Duke early and are still revered (Williams, Dunleavy, Boozer, Gerald Henderson, Deng to a certain extent).
There are some negative examples as well . McRoberts is the most obvious recent one, but I think the dislike for him is more due to his allegedly selfish attitude rather than the simple fact that he left early. Overall, I think its just silly to say that a recruit shouldn't attend Duke just because he doesn't plan on staying for 4 years.
He was the first guy to leave Duke early, and the fan base was probably a bit shell shocked after the loss to UCONN in the 99 title game. So a few idiots made some stupid comments. Not excusing it at all, but I think its a serious stretch to use it as a reason that someone shouldn't go to Duke.
It's a different time now. Kyrie Irving is still loved by the fan base (despite only playing 11 games and leaving even though the NBA may not even play this year), and Rivers has been embraced knowing full well that he'll be out the door at the first opportunity. If you go back further, there are plenty of examples of guys that left Duke early and are still revered (Williams, Dunleavy, Boozer, Gerald Henderson, Deng to a certain extent).
There are some negative examples as well . McRoberts is the most obvious recent one, but I think the dislike for him is more due to his allegedly selfish attitude rather than the simple fact that he left early. Overall, I think its just silly to say that a recruit shouldn't attend Duke just because he doesn't plan on staying for 4 years.
Absolutely. Excellent points.I wasn't saying a recruit shouldn't go there if he doesn't plan on staying for 4 years. However, I am saying that I have read a lot about Coach K putting pressure on kids to not leave early. I have no idea if it is true or not. None. It may be completely false, but it is a negative about Coach K and Duke that I have read numerous times. I'm only saying I'd look into it, though, if I were a recruit. Beyond that, there isn't much, if anything, not to like about Duke if you are a basketball player. It's tough to beat that combination of academics, coaching and publicity.
Eastwood
Footballguy
I think years ago, it probably was true. But today Duke has a very different recruiting strategy. I guess they HAD to adapt. K knows these kids want to build their brand, and the best players are never going to stay more than 2 years. It sucks, but that's college basketball now. Time will tell on Bazz. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he came to Duke, but also know its quite likely he'll stay on the West Coast. I am however, very confident Duke lands Parker, and hopefully (but not as confident) they land Mitch too. We'll know a lot more by the end of this month with those 2.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Do grown men really call a kid "Bazz"?
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
They shouldn't.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
NMYMND
Footballguy
NCAA Looking at Cutting Football, Basketball Scholarships
"Following a six-hour meeting in late September, the Resource Allocation Working Group, chaired by Georgia President Michael Adams, agreed to consider a reduction in FBS football scholarships from the current number of 85 to 80 and a reduction in the number of FCS football scholarships from 63 to 60. The reductions would likely follow a move toward a full cost-of-attendance scholarship that is expected to be passed in early 2012. In addition to football, the group agreed to consider a reduction in the number of men's basketball scholarships from 13 to 12 and in women's basketball from 15 to 13."
I had no idea there was a difference between the number of men's and women's basketball scholarships. No wonder UConn, et al is able to stockpile talent.
"Following a six-hour meeting in late September, the Resource Allocation Working Group, chaired by Georgia President Michael Adams, agreed to consider a reduction in FBS football scholarships from the current number of 85 to 80 and a reduction in the number of FCS football scholarships from 63 to 60. The reductions would likely follow a move toward a full cost-of-attendance scholarship that is expected to be passed in early 2012. In addition to football, the group agreed to consider a reduction in the number of men's basketball scholarships from 13 to 12 and in women's basketball from 15 to 13."
I had no idea there was a difference between the number of men's and women's basketball scholarships. No wonder UConn, et al is able to stockpile talent.
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Heard Calipari today on the drive home. He loves his team, but had a few interesting observations. It will be thin again this year, probably 7 deep. He called them 7 starters, depending on who is being consistent. I don't think Poole or Vargas have developed as much as he would have liked.
Davis is a 4, and they don't really have a 5. Cal described Vargas as a 4/5. That might cause problems against bigger teams
Spending a lot of time working on the pick and roll, may see a lot more of that this year in the offense.
Took a few more minor digs at Pitino, and defended his guys in the class room, pointing out that they all stay academically eligible, even after the draft.
Davis is a 4, and they don't really have a 5. Cal described Vargas as a 4/5. That might cause problems against bigger teams
Spending a lot of time working on the pick and roll, may see a lot more of that this year in the offense.
Took a few more minor digs at Pitino, and defended his guys in the class room, pointing out that they all stay academically eligible, even after the draft.
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
Aaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddd that would be something called... a contradiction to one's assertions. It will be interesting to say how this can be turned around. Let's sit back and watch...
NMYMND
Footballguy
In honor of the start of practice, first bracket projection from Jerry Palm and the first predictions.
Was Irving not a good kid or did he not have caring parents in his corner? Or, maybe there's a difference between tweeting you are not committed and saying in an interview that you are not. Or, well...I'd love to see how this can be turned around, actually.'Grady Wilson said:
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
Maybe next time you won't make such an emphatic statement saying the NEVER do it when in fact some have. Doesn't matter if it's one or 5, if you're going to make the claim make sure you have your ducks in a row. Pretty simple concept, really.Hey, Irving said something that I don't recall. But can you find me similar quotes from Dawkins or Singler? Go look, spend hours trying to find a way to debate with me.
When did singler privately commit?Hey, Irving said something that I don't recall. But can you find me similar quotes from Dawkins or Singler? Go look, spend hours trying to find a way to debate with me.
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Dungeon Master
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You wouldn't have heard about it. It was from a top secret source.When did singler privately commit?Hey, Irving said something that I don't recall. But can you find me similar quotes from Dawkins or Singler? Go look, spend hours trying to find a way to debate with me.
