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*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

If anything at the least the show is heading towards an epic good vs. evil showdown. Did anyone else get an Empire Strikes back vibe in this episode? And Sayid=Anakin? I just mention because of shoutout it got last season with Hurley trying to write it in 1977.

 
I don't even know what kind of answers I will be satisfied with at this point. I have forgotten half the questions. Characters show up and I can't remember where they were last (Sun tonight). They have done a crap job of keeping this thing intact, it is completely spiraling out of control.

 
Following up on JTC's point...who was the mob boss that Sayid killed? What was his role on the island? I know he was in the Others, I think...but who?

He is right about how hard it is to follow all these people. I know they were building to some big payoff there, but it just got a shrug out of me.

I thought it was overall pretty good tonight.

 
Jefferson the Caregiver said:
I don't even know what kind of answers I will be satisfied with at this point. I have forgotten half the questions. Characters show up and I can't remember where they were last (Sun tonight). They have done a crap job of keeping this thing intact, it is completely spiraling out of control.
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...sounds like you are LOST.
 
Capella said:
Following up on JTC's point...who was the mob boss that Sayid killed? What was his role on the island? I know he was in the Others, I think...but who? He is right about how hard it is to follow all these people. I know they were building to some big payoff there, but it just got a shrug out of me.I thought it was overall pretty good tonight.
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He was the marine that was sent by Widmore to the island and killed Ben's daughter.
 
Capella said:
Following up on JTC's point...who was the mob boss that Sayid killed? What was his role on the island? I know he was in the Others, I think...but who? He is right about how hard it is to follow all these people. I know they were building to some big payoff there, but it just got a shrug out of me.I thought it was overall pretty good tonight.
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He was the leader of the group Widmore sent to the island to get Ben
 
Capella said:
Following up on JTC's point...who was the mob boss that Sayid killed? What was his role on the island? I know he was in the Others, I think...but who? He is right about how hard it is to follow all these people. I know they were building to some big payoff there, but it just got a shrug out of me.I thought it was overall pretty good tonight.
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He killed Alex
 
Why in the world would the previews tell us they are killing off Ben next week?

Ratings that bad?

:lmao:

I liked the old others and hatch much better than this whole Jacob/smoke monster angle.

Meh

 
so, why didn't the stabbing work? was it because sayid heard his (smoke locke's) voice first? Next week is a Ben episode, those are always great

 
i think i missed the end when dvr cut off. last i saw, a bewildered kate was walking through the temple surveying the damage immediately post-smokey. what happened after that?

 
tikitime said:
i think i missed the end when dvr cut off. last i saw, a bewildered kate was walking through the temple surveying the damage immediately post-smokey. what happened after that?
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I think that was it, fake locke and his posse just stolled off pretty much; the preview for next week said something about how we will finally get to see Ben face his own demise?
 
tikitime said:
i think i missed the end when dvr cut off. last i saw, a bewildered kate was walking through the temple surveying the damage immediately post-smokey. what happened after that?
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kate and claire and the secksy time. To bad you missed it.
 
They killed off all the intrigue. Castrated ben, richard, did away with dharma. Hatches, ect.

Locke is evil. We get it. Not much left to imagine.

 
JerseyToughGuys said:
They killed off all the intrigue. Castrated ben, richard, did away with dharma. Hatches, ect.Locke is evil. We get it. Not much left to imagine.
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oh now they are answering too much questions? comon loli wouldnt count on a perfect end to the show imo...too much :excited: for a movie spinoff
 
dude said:
JerseyToughGuys said:
They killed off all the intrigue. Castrated ben, richard, did away with dharma. Hatches, ect.Locke is evil. We get it. Not much left to imagine.
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oh now they are answering too much questions? comon loli wouldnt count on a perfect end to the show imo...too much :excited: for a movie spinoff
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Not complaining about lack of answers or too many answers.Just a different feel to it this season. And the "flash sideways" stories aren't all that interesting and are getting somewhat predictable.Still enjoy the show, just doesn't have the same intrigue for me this season.
 
JerseyToughGuys said:
dude said:
JerseyToughGuys said:
They killed off all the intrigue. Castrated ben, richard, did away with dharma. Hatches, ect.Locke is evil. We get it. Not much left to imagine.
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oh now they are answering too much questions? comon loli wouldnt count on a perfect end to the show imo...too much :yes: for a movie spinoff
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Not complaining about lack of answers or too many answers.Just a different feel to it this season. And the "flash sideways" stories aren't all that interesting and are getting somewhat predictable.Still enjoy the show, just doesn't have the same intrigue for me this season.
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:excited: The flash sideways are brutal - I just can't believe how much time they have wasted in this season thus far - they could have nuked the stupid temple weeks ago and completely cut out the flash sideways crap IMO - who didnt know one of the Losties were in the kitchen....its gotta get better!
 
It is an interesting and realistic payoff to the Sayid character, if the dark side ends up being his final road and decision.

He has been a bad dude the entire show, but he is a main character and generally people want to see their main characters triumph over evil. They have done an excellent job with his struggle to remove himself from his past at various points throughout the show.

Inevitably, he winds up showing who he really is. Unlike Anakin in Star Wars, Lost did an excellent job setting up Sayid's final conversion to the dark side.

He gets offered his love back. He gets to leave the island. All he has to do is what is in his nature, kill a guy who has lied to him and twice tried to kill him.

Versus Anakin....hmm...never really done anything too evil. Wants to save the woman he loves....so let's go murder some children!

 
Jefferson the Caregiver said:
I'm sure people are going to say this was a good show tonight. If you feel that way, you've got some low expectations.I'm just about at the point where I don't care what happens anymore.
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I wish I could flash forward through these flash sideways. At this rate, they got 12 hours of shows left which will have about 4 hours of interesting story.
 
The Duff Man said:
It is an interesting and realistic payoff to the Sayid character, if the dark side ends up being his final road and decision.
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umm, double homicide? I don't doubt that the writers might give him a shot at redemption - but he has killed two apparently innocent people. redemption should be out the window.

 
yeah, I find myself not really investing in the flash-sidways (are we supposed to?), they have some kind of cool moments (hey, look, it's Keamy!!), but I only really pay attention when it's the present/island scenes. I'm not even sure what they were thinking with that stuff; at least the flashbacks and flash-forwards have relevance because they actually happened, but how are we supposed to believe the alternate stuff should really matter?

 
The Dude said:
The Duff Man said:
It is an interesting and realistic payoff to the Sayid character, if the dark side ends up being his final road and decision.
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umm, double homicide? I don't doubt that the writers might give him a shot at redemption - but he has killed two apparently innocent people. redemption should be out the window.
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I agree, but a Jack/Hugo v Sayid/Sawyer showdown may be in our future. With Kate somewhere in the middle.
 
saintsdave75 said:
yeah, I find myself not really investing in the flash-sidways (are we supposed to?), they have some kind of cool moments (hey, look, it's Keamy!!), but I only really pay attention when it's the present/island scenes. I'm not even sure what they were thinking with that stuff; at least the flashbacks and flash-forwards have relevance because they actually happened, but how are we supposed to believe the alternate stuff should really matter?
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I don't think we've seen the real reason for the flash-sideways universe (I don't think they've caused it yet), and I think the final stuff is going to happen in the flash-sideways universe with them remembering, somehow, what happened on the island and fixing things...
 
I really just signed up for a show about people who crashed on an island. I wasn't prepared for stations occupied by secret others who lived in houses on a secret other island and murdered a bunch of people in the name of some leader that they'd never met, while they took a submarine back and forth to a place that you can't go back and forth to, while people died but that's OK because they were time travelling and sometimes they come back but maybe they turn evil when they do, but be careful or you'll get nosebleeds or maybe you'll go to an alternate universe. It's just so strange.

I think the jump the shark moment for me was the first time there was an honest to goodness smoke monster. Not the kind of scary thing that took the pilot out of the plane in the first episode - back then I was actually curious what it was. I mean the first time you saw a cloud of smoke with crazy lightning images in it. And now to find out that it's actually a dude? It's just so strange.

I guess the time travel thing was the other jump the shark moment. The first time Desmond was flying around time was a little odd, but then they all started doing it, and a couple characters I didn't care about suddenly became best friends with everyone even though nobody trusted them, and they all got nosebleeds until one day the redhead girl died of being too pasty for television, and the rest of them didn't get nosebleeds anymore. It's just so strange.

Or maybe it was the crazy hippie colony filled with people who somehow went from normal businessmen to kick boxing street fighters who can overcome a military guy who took out three mob guys in one fight? It's just so strange.

I want to love this show. It feels like it's building up to whatever it was that they had planned from day one, and if that thing is good enough, it may make up for all the nonsense that's happened the last couple seasons. But I just can't imagine that the payoff will be there. It's just so strange.

Each week, I find myself trying to imagine what the perfect ending would be, or even what a good ending would be, and I keep coming up short. I guess I'd like to be able to re-watch this show some day, and at the end, say, man, they really tied up all the loose ends. It all makes sense now. I don't think there's any chance whatsoever of that happening. It's just so strange.

Like the dharma food that was dropped off by an airplane even though airplanes can't find the island? I still can't get past how the sub got to and from the island. It makes no sense to me how some of the Others were warriors. Or how the dude was keeping the temple safe, and what that pool of water did if it was supposed to save Sayid but couldn't save either of the other dudes that Sayid killed and left in it. It's just so strange.

If I can't get closure, I guess I'd take a twist. But I have a feeling that the twist is going to be whether Jacob was the good one or the evil one. Or maybe that Jacob had a plan all along. And hopefully, we'll finally understand the game that Jacob and the nemesis smoke monster thing were playing. But I can't picture them doing that in one hour increments in any way that will be satisfying. It's just too strange.

 
Lots of complaining in here. Time to start a new thread. Or, rather, act like a zookeeper and start your own website which will turn into a movie because the complainers are much better writers, thinkers about a fictitious show that has not even ended yet. Go ahead, write your own show and lets criticize it in the FFA. This show is like a Monet, we have spots of story here and there but you complainers need to back up and look at the whole picture however you will not be able to do that until the show ends. So, keep complaining. Me, I am filling out my notebook and enjoying the show each week.

 
The problem is that there are far too many loose ends and people are losing faith that they will get tied up. And if they don't get tied up, fans will be furious. There's a feeling that anything that doesn't tie up loose ends is just wasting time. So there's no interest in the flash sideways or lighthouses or temples.

What fans probably want at this point is for everything to get spelled out in black and white and to spend the final 10 or so episodes resolving things.

 
Mario Kart said:
Lots of complaining in here. Time to start a new thread. Or, rather, act like a zookeeper and start your own website which will turn into a movie because the complainers are much better writers, thinkers about a fictitious show that has not even ended yet. Go ahead, write your own show and lets criticize it in the FFA. This show is like a Monet, we have spots of story here and there but you complainers need to back up and look at the whole picture however you will not be able to do that until the show ends. So, keep complaining. Me, I am filling out my notebook and enjoying the show each week.
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I think its quite telling that the most recent episode generated about a half page of actual discussion, and that is probably generous.
 
The Duff Man said:
It is an interesting and realistic payoff to the Sayid character, if the dark side ends up being his final road and decision.He has been a bad dude the entire show, but he is a main character and generally people want to see their main characters triumph over evil. They have done an excellent job with his struggle to remove himself from his past at various points throughout the show. Inevitably, he winds up showing who he really is. Unlike Anakin in Star Wars, Lost did an excellent job setting up Sayid's final conversion to the dark side.He gets offered his love back. He gets to leave the island. All he has to do is what is in his nature, kill a guy who has lied to him and twice tried to kill him. Versus Anakin....hmm...never really done anything too evil. Wants to save the woman he loves....so let's go murder some children!
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Well according to what we've been told, Sayid has been "claimed". He became infected and it blackened his being. Anakin turned of his own free will. Sayid was forced. The real Sayid died in the pool. And he was a good man at that point, so in the end he died a good man. What's walking around now isn't Sayid.
 
How is the hokie smokie thing killing everyone in the temple any worse than ben linus and co killing all the dharma people? How is it more evil for smokie to get ben to kill jacob than it was for jacob to get ben to kill locke?

And ben was supposedly on the good guys team, which implies that widmore was on the bad guys team, but what did widmore do that was so wrong? What did Jacob do that was even remotely right, except have a soft voice and wear white clothes?

Jacob was the one who made the temple guy stay on the island and he said he couldn't see his kid anymore. He drove Ben to murder. He kept fake locke on the island. I don't understand why everyone's assuming that he's the good guy.

 
Did Kate get a boob job between seasons? Her boobs were never this big.

these are the kind of questions I want answered on Lost

 
kaa said:
What fans probably want at this point is for everything to get spelled out in black and white and to spend the final 10 or so episodes resolving things.
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Having everything in black and white and getting all the answers is not what I am looking for. It is high expectations if you think or anyone thinks that is going to happen and hence will be let down. Not me though.
 
Was Keamy giving off a major Christopher Walken vibe to anyone else during his screentime?

Other thoughts -

So does the ash do anything to keep Smokey out? Even with all the ash, it was apparently Dogen keeping Smokey out of the Temple. Obviously Jacob entrusted him to keep the place safe, but if Dogen was what was keeping the Temple safe, why the need for the ash? Double bagging?

NotLocke's look towards Kate was very interesting.

Dogen and Lennon ended up in the spring that may or may not heal people now. Wonder if they'll be making another appearance...

 
why is Miles still around? He is the only character from the Faraday storyline that the writers have kept in the current story...

 
Jefferson the Caregiver said:
I'm sure people are going to say this was a good show tonight. If you feel that way, you've got some low expectations.I'm just about at the point where I don't care what happens anymore.
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I'm kind of along for the ride at this point. Having invested the time to follow it through all the seasons I can't turn it off but I really didn't get much out of last nights episode.
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Awesome episode IMO. Best of the season. Smokie was kickin ###.
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Liar :lmao:What struck me funny was how we spent literally 100's of pages arguing over Dharma tattoo's on sharks and the meaning of cryptic symbols written by crazy dudes bottled up in a hatch pushing a button every 108 minutes or whole communities of shangri-la type people that suddenly appear in the middle of the series and others and whacky French expeditions and underwater hatches and lions and tigers and polar bears OH MY!!!!!!! And now it's all forgotten. . .and seemingly has little to do with what is going on on the island. Good waste of time by us :thumbup:
 
Don't care about answers or loose ends at this point.

What is mind numbing, at times, is the strange writing and editing at this point.

Why, now, do I give a flying #### about sayid's brother and family? There is a million different ways to revisit Sayid's inner torment. Odd choice last night.

Did the edittor get fired?

That sayid fistacuffs in the begining ran about 90 seconds too long. We get it, they are fighting.

The baseball. Again. And the payoff? The guys son played baseball.

Insta-sober dangling from a cliff. DOUBLE DOSE OF SUSPENSE!,1 omg.

I mean, is there any cheaper gimmick than a literal cliff hang?

And lastly, rewatch the smoke monster attack. Painfully bad.

Still enjoy the show, but it is taking on water at an alarming rate.

 
Mario Kart said:
Lots of complaining in here. Time to start a new thread. Or, rather, act like a zookeeper and start your own website which will turn into a movie because the complainers are much better writers, thinkers about a fictitious show that has not even ended yet. Go ahead, write your own show and lets criticize it in the FFA. This show is like a Monet, we have spots of story here and there but you complainers need to back up and look at the whole picture however you will not be able to do that until the show ends. So, keep complaining. Me, I am filling out my notebook and enjoying the show each week.
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Yeah, I'm not really sure why anyone thinks that everyone else cares about their opinion. This thread really should be about discussion of what happened, theories, etc. It gets really tiring reading "I wish I had never watched this show" and "The show jumped the shark at this moment" posts all the time. Just stop watching. It's pretty simple.
 
JerseyToughGuys said:
Why, now, do I give a flying #### about sayid's brother and family? There is a million different ways to revisit Sayid's inner torment. Odd choice last night.
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:sigh:It's almost not worth the effort of trying to weigh in on some of these questions, particularly from posters that seem predisposed to want to be disappointed. It's as if some viewers turned off after the first few seasons. If it isn't about Walt (or taller ghost Walt), polar bears or shark tattoos they're no longer interested.

I wonder if it would have been this way if they hadn't announced the show would end after 6 years.

Anyway, I think the alternate story lines are intended to show that while the "reset" did change many things, some things never changed. In both story lines last night, Sayid tried his best to not resort to his baser nature. Far from being innocent, Dogen (and to some extent Lennon) tried to have Sayid murdered twice. In the other, mobsters threaten his family, stab his brother, and still he didn't go ballistic. Not until he was abducted did he take measures into his own hands.

 
kupcho1 said:
JerseyToughGuys said:
Why, now, do I give a flying #### about sayid's brother and family? There is a million different ways to revisit Sayid's inner torment. Odd choice last night.
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:sigh:It's almost not worth the effort of trying to weigh in on some of these questions, particularly from posters that seem predisposed to want to be disappointed. It's as if some viewers turned off after the first few seasons. If it isn't about Walt (or taller ghost Walt), polar bears or shark tattoos they're no longer interested.

I wonder if it would have been this way if they hadn't announced the show would end after 6 years.

Anyway, I think the alternate story lines are intended to show that while the "reset" did change many things, some things never changed. In both story lines last night, Sayid tried his best to not resort to his baser nature. Far from being innocent, Dogen (and to some extent Lennon) tried to have Sayid murdered twice. In the other, mobsters threaten his family, stab his brother, and still he didn't go ballistic. Not until he was abducted did he take measures into his own hands.
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I guess you are right. Contract translating, boomerang gifting, vase gluing sayid is just as interesting to watch as assassin sayid.Adds a well needed layer of character depth I suppose.

 
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