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*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

That said, I am still looking forward to new episodes and hope tomorrow night's show is interesting.
Agreed. I am still hoping that it will get better. I'm not rooting for crap every week.Some of us want validation that what they just watched is the garbage that they thought it was, just like others want to keep it positive because they are still feeling it. As long as it stays within the theme of the thread, LOST, all opinions should be voiced.
 
I'm sure people are going to say this was a good show tonight. If you feel that way, you've got some low expectations.I'm just about at the point where I don't care what happens anymore.
I feel like posts like these are what this thread is entirely comprised of.We get it.You're better than this show.Please stop watching and stop posting.TIA
He posted that a week ago, dude. Your post is just as worthless at this point. Probably even moreso.People have a right to complain when the show is driving off-course like it has been most of this season. That said, I am still looking forward to new episodes and hope tomorrow night's show is interesting.
I'm not upset that the show's going off course. It's finally back on course. I'm just upset that almost everything I enjoyed about the show up until now was apparently a red herring.
Well...there's that too.*sigh*
 
Capella said:
Harry Manback said:
I'm sure people are going to say this was a good show tonight. If you feel that way, you've got some low expectations.I'm just about at the point where I don't care what happens anymore.
I feel like posts like these are what this thread is entirely comprised of.We get it.You're better than this show.Please stop watching and stop posting.TIA
He posted that a week ago, dude. Your post is just as worthless at this point. Probably even moreso.People have a right to complain when the show is driving off-course like it has been most of this season. That said, I am still looking forward to new episodes and hope tomorrow night's show is interesting.
Despite what it looks like, that post wasn't directly at JTC.I feel like literally 50% of the stuff in here is the same negative rhetoric. All along the same theme as the quoted post.You say it was 7 days ago, I'm sure there are plenty more since then.I just don't get it I guess.
 
I think this is a pretty much summed up my problem(s) with the show:

Watching Jack smash the lighthouse's mirrors, and recognizing that this is exactly what Jacob must have intended when he told Hurley to bring Jack along, reminded me once again of Ben's overly-convoluted plan to get Jack into performing spinal surgery on him. Back in the middle of season 3, I asked Lindelof why Ben required such a ridiculous scheme when he could have walked up to the castaways' beach on, like, day 5 and offered them shelter and food (let alone a trip home on the Dharma sub) in exchange for some tumor removal. Lindelof countered that "that version is considerably less intriguing for a mystery show." The problem is that if that's the only reason things are vague and overly-complicated - if it doesn't come from the characters, or the needs of the story, but from an external need to maintain an air of mystery - then it doesn't work. It's obvious and distracting and irritating, especially this late in the game, when there's no damn excuse for it.
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost...omposition.html
 
I think this is a pretty much summed up my problem(s) with the show:

Watching Jack smash the lighthouse's mirrors, and recognizing that this is exactly what Jacob must have intended when he told Hurley to bring Jack along, reminded me once again of Ben's overly-convoluted plan to get Jack into performing spinal surgery on him. Back in the middle of season 3, I asked Lindelof why Ben required such a ridiculous scheme when he could have walked up to the castaways' beach on, like, day 5 and offered them shelter and food (let alone a trip home on the Dharma sub) in exchange for some tumor removal. Lindelof countered that "that version is considerably less intriguing for a mystery show." The problem is that if that's the only reason things are vague and overly-complicated - if it doesn't come from the characters, or the needs of the story, but from an external need to maintain an air of mystery - then it doesn't work. It's obvious and distracting and irritating, especially this late in the game, when there's no damn excuse for it.
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost...omposition.html
So what you are trying to say is that this is just a dramatic version of Three's Company.Sounds about right.

 
I think this is a pretty much summed up my problem(s) with the show:

Watching Jack smash the lighthouse's mirrors, and recognizing that this is exactly what Jacob must have intended when he told Hurley to bring Jack along, reminded me once again of Ben's overly-convoluted plan to get Jack into performing spinal surgery on him. Back in the middle of season 3, I asked Lindelof why Ben required such a ridiculous scheme when he could have walked up to the castaways' beach on, like, day 5 and offered them shelter and food (let alone a trip home on the Dharma sub) in exchange for some tumor removal. Lindelof countered that "that version is considerably less intriguing for a mystery show." The problem is that if that's the only reason things are vague and overly-complicated - if it doesn't come from the characters, or the needs of the story, but from an external need to maintain an air of mystery - then it doesn't work. It's obvious and distracting and irritating, especially this late in the game, when there's no damn excuse for it.
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost...omposition.html
There's quite a few things done for dramatic effect in this show - many with no payoff (to this point). Several posters have been stating they want to get all the DVD's and rewatch the entrie series again - and to each their own. IMO, that type of viewing will likely reveal this shows warts. For instance, when you come to the dramatic moment where Ben is having breakfast with Kate and says somehting like "The next few days will be very unpleasant for you" - and the veiwer is thinking OMG what are they going to do to Kate???!!!???!!!?

It will be veiwed differently under a second viewing when you know there's no payoff (at least at this poit in time) for that cliffhanger.

 
The Dude said:
I think this is a pretty much summed up my problem(s) with the show:

Watching Jack smash the lighthouse's mirrors, and recognizing that this is exactly what Jacob must have intended when he told Hurley to bring Jack along, reminded me once again of Ben's overly-convoluted plan to get Jack into performing spinal surgery on him. Back in the middle of season 3, I asked Lindelof why Ben required such a ridiculous scheme when he could have walked up to the castaways' beach on, like, day 5 and offered them shelter and food (let alone a trip home on the Dharma sub) in exchange for some tumor removal. Lindelof countered that "that version is considerably less intriguing for a mystery show." The problem is that if that's the only reason things are vague and overly-complicated - if it doesn't come from the characters, or the needs of the story, but from an external need to maintain an air of mystery - then it doesn't work. It's obvious and distracting and irritating, especially this late in the game, when there's no damn excuse for it.
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost...omposition.html
There's quite a few things done for dramatic effect in this show - many with no payoff (to this point). Several posters have been stating they want to get all the DVD's and rewatch the entrie series again - and to each their own. IMO, that type of viewing will likely reveal this shows warts. For instance, when you come to the dramatic moment where Ben is having breakfast with Kate and says somehting like "The next few days will be very unpleasant for you" - and the veiwer is thinking OMG what are they going to do to Kate???!!!???!!!?

It will be veiwed differently under a second viewing when you know there's no payoff (at least at this poit in time) for that cliffhanger.
Actually I think it will allow us to focus on the aspects of the show that we know there are answers to. I can now say, after I see the Ben and Kate scene, "that's not important" and move on. I'm already rewatching and into Season 2 right now. 2nd time around is definitely better.
 
The Dude said:
I think this is a pretty much summed up my problem(s) with the show:

Watching Jack smash the lighthouse's mirrors, and recognizing that this is exactly what Jacob must have intended when he told Hurley to bring Jack along, reminded me once again of Ben's overly-convoluted plan to get Jack into performing spinal surgery on him. Back in the middle of season 3, I asked Lindelof why Ben required such a ridiculous scheme when he could have walked up to the castaways' beach on, like, day 5 and offered them shelter and food (let alone a trip home on the Dharma sub) in exchange for some tumor removal. Lindelof countered that "that version is considerably less intriguing for a mystery show." The problem is that if that's the only reason things are vague and overly-complicated - if it doesn't come from the characters, or the needs of the story, but from an external need to maintain an air of mystery - then it doesn't work. It's obvious and distracting and irritating, especially this late in the game, when there's no damn excuse for it.
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost...omposition.html
There's quite a few things done for dramatic effect in this show - many with no payoff (to this point). Several posters have been stating they want to get all the DVD's and rewatch the entrie series again - and to each their own. IMO, that type of viewing will likely reveal this shows warts. For instance, when you come to the dramatic moment where Ben is having breakfast with Kate and says somehting like "The next few days will be very unpleasant for you" - and the veiwer is thinking OMG what are they going to do to Kate???!!!???!!!?

It will be veiwed differently under a second viewing when you know there's no payoff (at least at this poit in time) for that cliffhanger.
Actually I think it will allow us to focus on the aspects of the show that we know there are answers to. I can now say, after I see the Ben and Kate scene, "that's not important" and move on. I'm already rewatching and into Season 2 right now. 2nd time around is definitely better.
It's poor storytelling to have things in the main narrative that just dead-end because the writers can't figure out how to fit them in. If there are little side-plots that sort of end up going nowhere, that's one thing, but it seems like they set that up to be a big part of the show, and then just didn't know what to do with it.
 
The Dude said:
For instance, when you come to the dramatic moment where Ben is having breakfast with Kate and says somehting like "The next few days will be very unpleasant for you" - and the veiwer is thinking OMG what are they going to do to Kate???!!!???!!!?
Oh the days when we theorized that Kate was an "other". Those were the good old days of Lost, brings back memories.
 
Not sure what to discuss after that. The plot advanced about an inch. I guess Widmore coming back will be weird.

Incriminating emails have the power to strip someone of their job but not force someone to write a good recommendation?

Richard is the biggest ####tease of the entire show and that's saying a lot. "Why don't you age?" "It's hard to explain." "What do you know about Jacob?" "I know he's dead." Why even include this dialogue?

 
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Not sure what to discuss after that. The plot advanced about an inch. I guess Widmore coming back will be weird. Incriminating emails have the power to strip someone of their job but not force someone to write a good recommendation?Richard is the biggest ####tease of the entire show and that's saying a lot. "Why don't you age?" "It's hard to explain." "What do you know about Jacob?" "I know he's dead." Why even include this dialogue?
:goodposting: I liked Ben's story, but with only 10 episodes left until the final 2 hour finale (now 9), they need to get moving.
 
Not many answers or furthering of the main story but I loved the episode. The singular story was fantastic. One of the better ones in the history of lost to me.

 
Not many answers or furthering of the main story but I loved the episode. The singular story was fantastic. One of the better ones in the history of lost to me.
I agree - that was a great episode. And I think that the parallel storylines of Ben redeeming himself for Alex in both lives really worked this time.
 
Really liked this episode, it's great how the creators have gradually flipped our perception of Ben. There was a time where I relished in watching Jack pummel him, now I feel nothing but sympathy for the guy and wish him the best. Alex's death was the biggest turning point in his life.

I'm probably one of the few people who enjoy the sidways stories, they really shed a lot of light on the characters.

 
Really liked this episode, it's great how the creators have gradually flipped our perception of Ben. There was a time where I relished in watching Jack pummel him, now I feel nothing but sympathy for the guy and wish him the best. Alex's death was the biggest turning point in his life.I'm probably one of the few people who enjoy the sidways stories, they really shed a lot of light on the characters.
I hadn't really thought much of the flash-sideways until tonight's episode. What did Roger mean about them leaving the island? did that happen in the original timeline? did they leave because of the bomb going off? That's the whole thing about the sideways deal, it's confusing to me now, but hopefully there will be a payoff for it
 
Richard is the biggest ####tease of the entire show and that's saying a lot. "Why don't you age?" "It's hard to explain." "What do you know about Jacob?" "I know he's dead." Why even include this dialogue?
Well if they didn't ask him people would complain about the characters not asking questions. :confused:
 
i enjoyed the episode as well. I've enjoyed the last three flash-sideways stories. While I do think Linus could've pushed harder to pressure Richard Thornberg to get what he wanted, the essence of his character was revealed in terms of doing right by Alex. The sideways Ben made the right choice which contrasted nicely with the island Ben who really is "lost" and alone. Even at the end during the reunion Ben stood apart from the others. He's with them but not really a part of them.

And Michael Emerson is a helluva actor.

I also liked the Jack and Richard stuff. Jack appears to be morphing into the new Jacob.

 
Really liked this episode, it's great how the creators have gradually flipped our perception of Ben. There was a time where I relished in watching Jack pummel him, now I feel nothing but sympathy for the guy and wish him the best. Alex's death was the biggest turning point in his life.I'm probably one of the few people who enjoy the sidways stories, they really shed a lot of light on the characters.
I hadn't really thought much of the flash-sideways until tonight's episode. What did Roger mean about them leaving the island? did that happen in the original timeline? did they leave because of the bomb going off? That's the whole thing about the sideways deal, it's confusing to me now, but hopefully there will be a payoff for it
I'd argue that they already are paying off, not in the sense of progressing the story or giving us "answers" but in evolving the characters. They often make you think of something or someone in a way that you hadn't before.
 
Good episode tonight. Ben's side story was very good. Its going to be the survivors on the beach vs MIB and his group of others in the jungle, kind of like it was in the beginning

 
Really liked this episode, it's great how the creators have gradually flipped our perception of Ben. There was a time where I relished in watching Jack pummel him, now I feel nothing but sympathy for the guy and wish him the best. Alex's death was the biggest turning point in his life.I'm probably one of the few people who enjoy the sidways stories, they really shed a lot of light on the characters.
I hadn't really thought much of the flash-sideways until tonight's episode. What did Roger mean about them leaving the island? did that happen in the original timeline? did they leave because of the bomb going off? That's the whole thing about the sideways deal, it's confusing to me now, but hopefully there will be a payoff for it
I'd argue that they already are paying off, not in the sense of progressing the story or giving us "answers" but in evolving the characters. They often make you think of something or someone in a way that you hadn't before.
Completely agree. That's what was so special about tonight's episode. I've been telling friends that I really hoped the writers did not lead Ben down a road of redemption. He's my favorite character and before tonight I was hoping he would stay sinister throughout. In 60 minutes they completely changed my mind and now I like his character even more "redeemed". Michael Emerson deserves best actor ever award.
 
Richard is the biggest ####tease of the entire show and that's saying a lot. "Why don't you age?" "It's hard to explain." "What do you know about Jacob?" "I know he's dead." Why even include this dialogue?
Well if they didn't ask him people would complain about the characters not asking questions. :lmao:
I'm halfway between enjoying the show and annoyed by what I perceive are needless flaws. I don't head in looking to pick everything apart. But these go-nowhere Q and A's that take place while people are trekking through the jungle are beyond pointless at this stage. There are two reasons for the complaints that characters don't ask questions: it's not realistic that this crazy stuff would be happening and nobody would be looking for answers, and the fact that we as the audience don't learn anything. The go-nowhere Q and A's don't quell either. Hurley asking why Richard doesn't age is realistic, but after being told "it was a gift", not asking what the hell that means is completely unrealistic. So it's still unrealistic. And obviously we don't learn anything either. So I'd rather they leave that stuff out, or have the characters ask questions that the writers feel comfortable providing realistic and informative answers too.
 
Great episode

The good side and bad sides are getting set up.

we kinda confirm richard was on the black rock

we get the "touch"

hurley is hungry

miles' power is explained

we know who jacob meant when he said "theyre coming"

Ben is a GOOD GUY

miles gets the diamonds

bad guys are meeting up at hydra

also, if you were able to watch the popup repeat. you know that Kate isnt on the bad side.

i kinda like the popup episodes better. Hard for me to follow everything :shrug:

 
Great episodeThe good side and bad sides are getting set up.we kinda confirm richard was on the black rockwe get the "touch" hurley is hungrymiles' power is explainedwe know who jacob meant when he said "theyre coming"Ben is a GOOD GUYmiles gets the diamondsbad guys are meeting up at hydraalso, if you were able to watch the popup repeat. you know that Kate isnt on the bad side. i kinda like the popup episodes better. Hard for me to follow everything :shrug:
What do you mean by Miles power is explained?
 
I really liked tonights episode. I have really enjoyed the whole season. Only problem I had was that the incriminating emails had the power to strip someone of their job but not force someone to write a good recommendation. I would have thought Ben could just include that in the black mail.

I really like Jack and his f it attitude. I kind of miss Sawyer though and hope he returns soon.

 
I really liked tonights episode. I have really enjoyed the whole season. Only problem I had was that the incriminating emails had the power to strip someone of their job but not force someone to write a good recommendation. I would have thought Ben could just include that in the black mail.
I agree but what I took from that was that was the fundamental difference between Sideways Ben and Island Ben. Island Ben would have pushed harder to blackmail Thornberg. And his fate would have left him alone as was the case on the island. Sideways Ben did the right thing and made another person's life better as a result.
I really like Jack and his f it attitude.
Ditto. He's been lost for quite awhile but it looks like he has a sense of purpose again.
 
I think I get it now. Jack is an ego maniac. Only an ego maniac could think he's so important that he could be the candidate to replace Jacob.

I know I'm close here.

 
Great episodeThe good side and bad sides are getting set up.we kinda confirm richard was on the black rockwe get the "touch" hurley is hungrymiles' power is explainedwe know who jacob meant when he said "theyre coming"Ben is a GOOD GUYmiles gets the diamondsbad guys are meeting up at hydraalso, if you were able to watch the popup repeat. you know that Kate isnt on the bad side. i kinda like the popup episodes better. Hard for me to follow everything :shrug:
What do you mean by Miles power is explained?
just that we didnt know if he just sat around and had a chat with them or what
 
we kinda confirm richard was on the black rock
More than kinda. We know he was in chains at some point and there were chains on the Black Rock that he found. Not a stretch to figure he was brought to the island in chains.
miles gets the diamonds
LOVED that.
when they show the black rock episode, that will be awesome. I need to know how it got inland. once they showed the island moves I assumed it moved underneath, but its not like everyone has been wet during the time jumps
 
Really liked this episode, it's great how the creators have gradually flipped our perception of Ben. There was a time where I relished in watching Jack pummel him, now I feel nothing but sympathy for the guy and wish him the best. Alex's death was the biggest turning point in his life.I'm probably one of the few people who enjoy the sidways stories, they really shed a lot of light on the characters.
Ben murdered Locke, Jacob, and was an accomplice in the double-homicide of Libby and Anna-Lucia. I don't feel any sympathy for him at all. He should be shot.
 
Really liked this episode, it's great how the creators have gradually flipped our perception of Ben. There was a time where I relished in watching Jack pummel him, now I feel nothing but sympathy for the guy and wish him the best. Alex's death was the biggest turning point in his life.I'm probably one of the few people who enjoy the sidways stories, they really shed a lot of light on the characters.
Ben murdered Locke, Jacob, and was an accomplice in the double-homicide of Libby and Anna-Lucia. I don't feel any sympathy for him at all. He should be shot.
Um...don't you kind of look like Ben? :lmao:
 
The resolution of the blackmailing of the principal made no sense at all. I'm supposed to believe that Ben is clever enough to work out a way to bring down the principal and take his job, but he's apparently not clever enough to find someone else to give Alex a good recommendation?

 
I enjoyed this past weeks episode....

seems like lines are being drawn. Sayid is down the dark path...
Yah its possible that every episode going forward will slot a major character in the Jacob camp or the notLocke camp. Last week, Sayid was slotted in the notLocke camp. This week could be about slotting Ben into a camp. And then the week after that will be Sawyer's turn, etc.Perhaps it is a bit interesting that when we look at this promo photo for Season 6 with the "Last Supper" theme:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c...ason_6_cast.png

notLocke is in the Jesus position. So far, Claire and Sayid have joined notLocke, and both are to his left. Kate has perhaps also joined notLocke, and she is also to his left. Sawyer seemed ready to join notLocke, and he is also to his left. No-one to notLocke's right has joined him yet.

Sayid is actually in the spot where Judas is in da Vinci's painting (4th from that end of the table), which I suppose could foreshadow that Sayid will betray notLocke.

Could mean something. Or nothing at all.
Ben was to notLocke's right in the Last Supper photo, and he didn't go with notLocke, so the theory still holds! :lmao:
 
The resolution of the blackmailing of the principal made no sense at all. I'm supposed to believe that Ben is clever enough to work out a way to bring down the principal and take his job, but he's apparently not clever enough to find someone else to give Alex a good recommendation?
Yes, that was pretty flimsy. Ben could've just said "How about you resign AND write the letter of recommendation or I'll spill the beans." Or, just realize that a disgraced/fired principal in Los Angeles isn't going to have any special pull with Yale admissions, and anything damning he might write would look bizarre next to the other glowing letters of recommendation that Alterna-Alex certainly could've had written on her behalf.The writers tried to set up a scenario akin to Mutual Assured Destruction, and failed.

I feel weird agreeing with you. :blink:

 
The resolution of the blackmailing of the principal made no sense at all. I'm supposed to believe that Ben is clever enough to work out a way to bring down the principal and take his job, but he's apparently not clever enough to find someone else to give Alex a good recommendation?
Yes, that was pretty flimsy. Ben could've just said "How about you resign AND write the letter of recommendation or I'll spill the beans." Or, just realize that a disgraced/fired principal in Los Angeles isn't going to have any special pull with Yale admissions, and anything damning he might write would look bizarre next to the other glowing letters of recommendation that Alterna-Alex certainly could've had written on her behalf.The writers tried to set up a scenario akin to Mutual Assured Destruction, and failed.

I feel weird agreeing with you. :blink:
She needed a recommendation from a Yale alum, and the principal was the only one at the school. Now, maybe he could hope to get lucky and find another local Yale alum who would do him a favor, but he decided not to risk Alex Rousseau's (expected but nice touch on the last name) future just to advance his agenda. And that particular idea might, just might, have kept Alex alive in the main timeline.
 
The resolution of the blackmailing of the principal made no sense at all. I'm supposed to believe that Ben is clever enough to work out a way to bring down the principal and take his job, but he's apparently not clever enough to find someone else to give Alex a good recommendation?
Yes, that was pretty flimsy. Ben could've just said "How about you resign AND write the letter of recommendation or I'll spill the beans." Or, just realize that a disgraced/fired principal in Los Angeles isn't going to have any special pull with Yale admissions, and anything damning he might write would look bizarre next to the other glowing letters of recommendation that Alterna-Alex certainly could've had written on her behalf.The writers tried to set up a scenario akin to Mutual Assured Destruction, and failed.

I feel weird agreeing with you. :blink:
She needed a recommendation from a Yale alum, and the principal was the only one at the school. Now, maybe he could hope to get lucky and find another local Yale alum who would do him a favor, but he decided not to risk Alex Rousseau's (expected but nice touch on the last name) future just to advance his agenda. And that particular idea might, just might, have kept Alex alive in the main timeline.
Not true.
 
BTW:

You're chasing a captive that you were about to kill through the woods. You have a rifle, he does not (yet). You're not very far from him:

1) STOP RUNNING

2) RAISE RIFLE

3) SHOOT TARGET

Of course that can't happen, because the ensuing showdown and speech and confession are an important plot point. I get that. But get to that plot point in a "realistic" manner. Instead of freeing Ben's leg and putting the rifle in the woods, why wouldn't Norwood create a diversion so he could get a bigger headstart?

 

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