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I hope they tie together. I mean is anyone that interested in what their lives would be like if they went on as normal, something else has to happen there. Plus Juliet says ,"It worked". How could she know that? Confused as all hell.
Maybe the LAX scenes were a flashback, and they all eventually get back to the island anyways? 1.They never crashed originally and land in LA.2. ?????3. Back on the island4. Profit
Maybe it's a chronological issue. You are led to believe the two timelines are occuring simultaneously - maybe they're not. Maybe the bomb going off set in motion the reset - explaining Juliette's "It worked" statement. The just haven't reset yet - maybe there's another step to the equation.No idea how Desmond is on the plane in a reset.
Me neither. Despite the producers calling this a "Flash Sideways" we know the timelines can't be occurring simultaneously. The Losties are on the island in the present day but the LA X stuff was three years ago.
Locke also told Boone that he went on his excursion, but didn't they turn Locke away when he showed up in a wheelchair?
My theory is that they are on the island, and that between now and somewhere near the end of the series, they do something (again?) and "fix" things, and the the Locke we saw talking to Jack was not Locke, but Nemesis inhabiting Locke's body.I'm also convinced Jack will heal Locke, and when he walks we'll find out he isn't Locke.
Fixed.
I will look for this on hulu tomorrow.
yes.The actors actually confirmed that in media interviews yesterday/late last week... I saw a quote from the actress who plays Kate tlaking about "Flash-sideways" and going back and forth between the two realities...
At first I thought, that makes sense, very clever theory. But then I thought, if MIB could just conjure up a Locke body (meaning two physical presences exist that look like Locke), then why couldn't Jacob do the same thing with a 2nd Sayid? Lesser powers?
Agreed.I think that eventually everyone on the off island timeline dies except the people who died on the island originally (e.g., Charlie). The timelines converge and the (new) island timeline is actually purgatory.
2. Yep. I don't think Sayid was really dead long enough to be Jacob 2.0. The magic water just took a while to work since it was polluted/corrupted/whatever.3. Might just be figurative. We'll have to wait on that one.4. The kids taken from the tail were familiar as well.
I guess know we know how they healed young Ben after Sayid shot him.
Smokie didn't have a whole lot of vested interest in killing the mercs. Killing Bram and Jacob's other bodyguards was likely more important to him.That struck me, as well, about Juliette. As Sawyer went down into the hole, she didn't think it worked, and even said as much, IIRC. Then, she asked Sawyer to kiss her and after that she seemed to be aware that "it worked."
3. I don't know if the Man in Black had Richard in chains, but at some point Richard was in chains.4. IMO, I think the Others/Original Inhabitants kinda splintered into a couple groups. Some that lived at old DHARMA stations and a second group who were permanent residents of the temple, with their own heirarchy. Only when things got dire, did they send the other group to the temple.5. I think this is still a way of the universe "course-correcting"
This.Although the Desmond wrinkle has me a little confused.
There was no island for him to get stranded on.
They found Jack's father's casket on the island with no body in it.
One of the body guards did this.
I don't think that HE had him in chains, but that Richard was in chains. Wasn't the Black Rock a slave ship? Maybe Richard came to the island on that ... in chains.
But that is the "other" reality no? In the reality where Oceanic F'ed up the transfer of a casket, there is no island. Christian Shepard still dies in that reality, and Jack is still (successfully) bringing his body from Sidney to LAX
Well, Desmond's history is one of the most dependent on previous island history. In that timeline, Widmore is likely dead and never left the island. Which means big question marks on whether Penny is even around. Even if she is and she still met Desmond, there wouldn't be Desmond's conflict with her father which inspired the boat race. So changing Desmond to be on the plane isn't a problem.The bigger question is where he went since Jack didn't see him exit the plane.
I wouldn't be surprised if things happen back in LA that result in the characters being in a similar place to where they were on the island.Charlie swallowing the drugs and telling Jack he was supposed to die, when the same theme revolved around how he did die on the island... Maybe he survives a couple of near death experiences and eventually is killed.Jack fixes Locke's spine and he walks again.Something happens to Claire in the Taxi with Kate and Kate ends up raising Aaron...
Ben had Michael bring back Sawyer, Jack, Hurley and Kate. Is that the list you're thinking of?
The body wasn't put on the plane in either timeline.
I was thinking the same thing as the piece of paper was taken from the wooden Ankh.The list you're thinking about was Ms. Klugh's list and it had: Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer on it.Jin, Sun and Sayid launched a rescue operation using the sailboat and saw the 4-toed statue on their way. At other times, Jack, Kate, Sayid and Locke are all mentioned as NOT being on a list becuase of various flaws.
Well, I guess we presume that when Christian spoke to Locke by the wheel that it was smokey. And he seemed to know things that Christian would know. Same way with every other time he morphed in to someone else. Smokey/MIB seemed to take on that person and be able to read their thoughts.
Now im shuked and must have missed something. Could you unpack this davinci. I am trying to keep up
I don't think it's safe to presume anything, but it sure looks as if smokey has taken the form of Christian, Yemi, Dave, etc.But, based on what MIB said to Ben about "unlike Locke, I want to go home" would mean to me that he can't get off the island. If he can't get off the island, how would he know the final thoughts of Locke as Ben was strangling him in LA?Is he omniscient and omnipresent?
I don't think this can be. If we are going on the presumption that Smokey is manifesting himself as different people. He appears to need that person's body in order to manifest himself as that person, like he did with Yemi, Alex and Locke. Only once Locke's body was back on the island was he able to look like Locke and therefore gain his loophole.I'm not sure if the body ever made it into the plane in the new timeline from last night, but it looks like he would have been on the plane in 2004.
That was "Frogurt" the name Sawyer gave him on the island. He died during the time flashes. He took a flaming arrow to the chest from the Others when they flashed to the 1950's, IIRC.
This makes sense above. I think Dr. Shepard was in the casket on the plane originally. He was seen by jack on the island in white shoes, BUT they never found his body(similar to syid from last night?) Anyway Jacob can assume an actual body and MIB actually assumes another form of a body? Could the Shepard visions be Jacob in Christians body(white shoes)?Still doesnt explain in the non-crashing reality what happened to Dr. Shepard. The island doesnt exist/is underwater, so the casket should have arrived. They made a pretty big deal about the Oceanic employee delivering the line that "we dont know where the casket actually is"
