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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (1 Viewer)
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SuperJohn96
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Challenge Everything
Footballguy
downloading bittorrent from isohunt now. epi 7
jplvr
Footballguy
Great episode. I had hope that the back story of the Tailies would take up more than one show (more like half the season 
), but I'll take it. I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp. That's what I'm going with anyway.
), but I'll take it. I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp. That's what I'm going with anyway.
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Paper Lions
Footballguy
I think that both Nathan and Ethan said they were from Canada, actually. Could be.Great episode. I had hope that the back story of the Tailies would take up more than one show (more like half the season
I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:
Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp.
That's what I'm going with anyway.
jplvr
Footballguy
That's what I'm saying. Hearing Nathan talking to Ana, I thought, "Wow, this must be the standard response for the Others when questioned. Name, from Cananda, on a company trip (we don't know if Ethan ever said this though), etc." Once we learned that Goodwin killed Nathan and that he was the plant, I started to think that Ethan was just trying to use Nathan's identity. If he gets the name right, Hurly would have checked him off the passenger list.Granted all of this means nothing because we learned that Ethan is the plant by him kidnapping Charlie and Claire in the same episode that Hurly learns that he's not in the flight manifest.I think that both Nathan and Ethan said they were from Canada, actually. Could be.Great episode. I had hope that the back story of the Tailies would take up more than one show (more like half the season
I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:
Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp.
That's what I'm going with anyway.
Another note: I know it was speculated that the flight crew was in on it or whatever. This was during all of the questions about whether or not there were 2 flights. Anyway, the Tailie that went missing on the trek to the Fuselage camp was the stewardess from the flight. I'm assuming this was just common knowledge for anyone that saw the show as she talked about the captain saying that they were 2 hours off course, but early last night it clicked that she was the same woman that gave Jack the vodka and that chased Charlie through the cabin.
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jazz12pg
Young MC Fan
The previews for next week's episode basically told us the same things as in the bolded text above, so not really a spoiler.Shuke's right, please put lines like the bolded above in spoiler text please.I wasn't referring to whether you were right or not, but rather you basically spoiled it for everyone before the show.
mlball77
Footballguy
Hmm... makes sense I guess.Great episode. I had hope that the back story of the Tailies would take up more than one show (more like half the season
I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:
Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp.
That's what I'm going with anyway.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
He said this yesterday before last night's episode.The previews for next week's episode basically told us the same things as in the bolded text above, so not really a spoiler.Shuke's right, please put lines like the bolded above in spoiler text please.I wasn't referring to whether you were right or not, but rather you basically spoiled it for everyone before the show.
Paper Lions
Footballguy
jplvr on a roll today.Hmm... makes sense I guess.Great episode. I had hope that the back story of the Tailies would take up more than one show (more like half the season
I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:
Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp.
That's what I'm going with anyway.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
This does make sense, but Ethan also gave a surname of "Rom." In last night's episode, we didn't see Nathan giving his surname. Presumably, if Hurley was checking names against the manifest, he would have at least noticed a common surname, with a name that sounded so much like Nathan wouldn't he?
dumb. Anything 'new' happen in the last 8 min? Sounds like just the one chick got captured by the Others (how so?) and everything else was just a review of the guys washing up and shooting Shannon? Did I miss anything else?
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About the "good people" the others took.I don't necessarily think it was meant in reference to the person's nature. It makes more sense to me that those people were "good canidates" for whatever experiments and what not is going on over at Other's central.Then again, Goodwin clearly isn't mentally sound if he is one of the others anyway. I question the judgement of people who snatch people in the middle of the night.
aardball44
Footballguy
The Others don't want survivors with good taste; they want survivors that taste good.
:sorrycharlie:
aardball44
Footballguy
Nice call. It applies logic to the puzzle instead of our assuming the similarities between Ethan and Nathan were a fluke. (One question, though: wouldn't Nathan have been on the flight log Hurley used when he fingered "Ethan" as someone who was not aboard the plane? Not a big deal, as there are gaping holes in some of the plots in this show and this is a mere pinhole leak in comparison.)There's always the chance we'll see all these events unfold from the perspective of The Others somewhere down the road, in much the same way we caught up with the Tailies and their story line in the last episode.Great episode. I had hope that the back story of the Tailies would take up more than one show (more like half the season
I wondered if anyone else would figure this out before I got to the end of the thread, but I'm pretty sure this explains the Nathan/Ethan thing:
Goodwin collected names and descriptions for the Tailies and gave them to the Others in the forrest. We know for one that Nathan wasn't very friendly from Ana, so Goodwin could have gotten some information wrong, and it's possible that "Ethan" only heard the name through the grapevine. Ethan hears the name from Goodwin or someone before going to the Fuselage camp, and when Hurly comes along asking his name for the census, Ethan stumbles and says "Ethan" instead of "Nathan." Ethan was trying to use Nathan's identity to infiltrate the Fuselage camp.
That's what I'm going with anyway.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
I disagree. Look at who was taken. Eko (hypothesized to be a priest, regardless has a good nature about him), 2 other tallies (nothing known about them), taillie children, Claire & Walt. I think they are taking "pure" people without sin. Now how Rose, Bernard, Libby, etc sinned, I don't know, but I'm sticking with this theory for now.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
Found this on the Theory Boards.. When you enlarge the picture you can kind of make out "I WILL" and "LORD"http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name...=814&pos=214you
caabeel
Footballguy
That wasn't a spoiler......you basically saw her shoot Shannon last week. Just because you speculated otherwise does not make it a spoiler....Shuke's right, please put lines like the bolded above in spoiler text please.I wasn't referring to whether you were right or not, but rather you basically spoiled it for everyone before the show.
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Buckychudd
Footballguy
Buckychudd
Footballguy
You're supposed to white the spoilers out.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
I think the door we saw the Tailies go into was the main door. The door that the fuselage crew got in through was the backdoor, so to speak. Once they found the main entrance, they had no problems getting in and out.Again, I think the "Quarantine" was part of the experiment to keep people inside. I don't think we'll see much more of the "hatch" the Tailies were in, but it wouldn't surprise me if it had cement poured into part of it, blocking off another area, as well.
WTF is up with the glass eye?
aardball44
Footballguy
Ethan FrommeMajor Tom
Mister Mom
jplvr
Footballguy
The bunker the tailies found was also abandoned. I doubt it would have been as easy for the Fuselage crew to get in Desmond's front door as it was for them to get in the hatch. Abandoned and pretty much empty, I don't think anyone would need to worry about locking up the tailies bunker.I must say that I was a little pissed about the start of the show this year, but it's shaping up nicely. I wasn't a fan of Alias until last season, so I'm not sure how many seasons I missed, but I've set the Tivo to start picking up re-runs and I'm starting to see some connections. Rombaldi was the central element early on in Alias and you really didn't get to the climax of that until last year. We've got a looooong way to go before Lost hits it's peak, I think.Edit: Season 4 before Rombaldi climax on Alias. Sounds good to me although what would be the central issue with Lost? The island itself? Others/Dharma? Rescue/after affects of living on the island?
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Mahoney
Footballguy
I don't think it is fair to automatically assume Charlie isn't "Good". In his flashbacks they actually showed him in confession I believe a couple times, turning to a priest for advice. He was a good kid who was seeking guidance and actually seemed pretty religious. He eventually started using drugs to try to fit in better with his older brother, and then got hooked. Pretty sure Thou Shalt not use Heroin isn't one of God's Laws.And I'm pretty sure they kidnapped Claire for her unborn baby,..... not her.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Wow. Found some more evidence to back up the speculation that the show takes place in the 2009/2010 timeframe. I don't know if people recall that from earlier in the year.
I will invisitext, because even though this evidence is built on stuff we've seen, I'd rather be safe than sorry.
I will invisitext, because even though this evidence is built on stuff we've seen, I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
They took Charlie, because he was with claire. Not for charlie.
They took Claire to get the baby. Not for Claire herself.So my question, how did Goodwin get his clothes and shoes? If Ann lucia was right, did Bernard just happen to see him, is that why he came out so fast? Why does he have shoes?
Was the count right on how many survivors there were? I feel like it's off. Someone help me.
I think they infultrated the tallies before the rest of the survivors was because they had a smaller group. That made Goodwins job of analyzing them easier.
Ethan had a much larger group to work with, and was probably merged with them later.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Watched the beginning just now and Ethan does not show up until the night of day 1 and is sleeping near Anna at the fire. Goodwin is also sleeping near her at this same fire but on the other side. Ethan was the first one to report to Anna about the missing people in night 1. He went to the bathroom alone and was gone for 2 hours at which time he never told anybody where he was or what he did. Ethan also did not try to convince Anna at all about him not knowing where the kids are and anything of that nature when he was in the hole. Goodwin had to get rid of him because Ethan was a liability. Why would we be shown Goodwin kill Ethan when we could have been left with Goodwin letting Ethan go and later finding out that Ethan was killed? Until I am shown different it is in my belief that Ethan and Goodwin were both Others.
Usual21
Footballguy
I know it's been discussed about Mr. Eko being a religious man. But we also have to remember that small plane that Boone and Locke found. I somehoe remember Locke saying that it was some Nigerian Drug Smuggling Plane or something like that. Plus the fact that the drugs are in religious statues. I think Mr Eko has something to do with this plane. Nigerian Drug Smugglers...African accent...religious overtone...religious statues... I just think that he isn't as good as we're making him out to be.Just a hunch.
Worm
slimy ninja
First of all, it's NATHAN.Second of all, you are trying too hard here. It's OBVIOUS that Nathan was a misdirection. He didn't talk in the pit because he didn't know anything. He obviously didn't know which way the beach was and had to ask. And why would Goodwin kill him? Seriously, he was NOT an other.
