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[shuke]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it. 

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

 

[prosopis]

 

[Incogneto]

WOW!!!What a way to start the new season. LOVED it. I have some theories, but I will have to post them later. Too much work to do right now.

 

[PC Load Letter]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it. 

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it. 

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

Point is she was paralyzed way before the 4 years that Locke was so I dont think the 2 could have happend at the same time.

 

[Smoo]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it.

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.

Based on what? How old do you think he is on the island?

 

[Incogneto]

Explain something to me..www.oceanicflight815.com --> Click on Info, then Charecters.....Why isn't Walt listed as a charecter? Rousseau is, and Walt isn't?Just seemed a little strange to me.

 

[porkins]

What if the "explosion" in the opening scene wasn't the hatch being blown up, but the plane crashing a few months before? That could be why he's dirty when they go down there. It knocked out some of his facilities?

He instantly went to his priscope/mirror system. The camera showed that it was a series of mirrors, showing what each corresponding mirror was looking at, which ended looking up the hatch at Locke/Kate?Jack looking back down it.Also, when Jack wlaked into the computer room, everything was working.

 

[dgreen]

Why would the first thing Locke says to Jack, "I wouldn't touch that if I were you," referring to the computer? Kind of a weird thing to say with a guy holding you hostage.

 

[Spike]

In regard to those saying that Locke was the guy in the car accident with Sarah, I don't think the timelines work.Due to how young they made Jack look, can we say it was a minimum of 10 years before the show's current time? Using that assumption, and that a medical person in the scene said it was a "59 year old male", doesn't that make Locke a LOT older than he is?I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think the guy in the "hatch" was the same guy running in the stadium. Again, the timelines just don't fit. Hell, how long would it have taken to dig out the area the "hatch" is in? That and all the '70s looking stuff make it seem (to me) that the guy was there 30 (or so) years ago.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

Does anyone have any theories about Walt?  That part was f'n creepy.

2 theories I have1.He is dead and his appearance is similar to when Jack followed his"dead" father around on the island early in season 1. When Walt appeared he was all wet. When he was kidnapped, he never fell in the water, they just took him from the boat right onto the Other's boat. Maybe he later jumped off the boat or tried to escape and drowned. Now trying to warn/help the survivors.

2.He is using his "powers" to mentally communicate with Shannon and is able to project himself.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

In regard to those saying that Locke was the guy in the car accident with Sarah, I don't think the timelines work.

Due to how young they made Jack look, can we say it was a minimum of 10 years before the show's current time? Using that assumption, and that a medical person in the scene said it was a "59 year old male", doesn't that make Locke a LOT older than he is?

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think the guy in the "hatch" was the same guy running in the stadium. Again, the timelines just don't fit. Hell, how long would it have taken to dig out the area the "hatch" is in? That and all the '70s looking stuff make it seem (to me) that the guy was there 30 (or so) years ago.

It was Shannon's father anyway. His last name was Rutherford - same as hers. Also Boone's step-father.

 

[Workhorse]

Why would the first thing Locke says to Jack, "I wouldn't touch that if I were you," referring to the computer? Kind of a weird thing to say with a guy holding you hostage.

Maybe Locke already pressed the button himself?

 

[Incogneto]

My theories, and my theories only....I will hide the text just because It makes me feel special.....

---Theories----

I am assuming over the next season, you are going to see how Desmond interacts with all of the main charecters.

Jack - We saw...Drank the water, Sarah was cured, miraculously.

The rest are guesses/theories...

Kate - Somehow Desmond gets Kate out of the country.

Locke - Desmond is involved in How Locke ends up in a wheelchair.

Charlie - Desmond will be the manager trying to convince Charlie to get Driveshaft back together.

Claire - One of the stories we know the LEAST about (1 flashback ep.) Desmond is the man that broke up Clair with her Baby-Dada.

Michael/Walt - Desmond was driving the car that hit Michael. Wasn't the same car seen in multiple accident scenes?????

Hurley - Maybe Desmond sells Hurly the lotto ticket.

You get the point...

Shannon -

Sawyer -

Jin -

Sun -

Sayid -

Somehow he manipulates them - maybe getting them to drink something (tracking device for the island) - to end up on the island.

DESMOND IS THE MASTER OF THE ISLAND!!!!

---End Theories----

 

[PC Load Letter]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it. 

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.

Based on what? How old do you think he is on the island?

Not sure how long he's been on the island, but I think the hospital scenes were older than 4 years back. Jack's hair looked awfully 80's to me, but that would make it 25 years ago, which is ludicrous. I still say that's either 8, 15, or 16 years ago to coincide with the numbers. 4 seems too short.

 

[saintfool]

Does anyone have any theories about Walt? That part was f'n creepy.

2 theories I have1.He is dead and his appearance is similar to when Jack followed his"dead" father around on the island early in season 1. When Walt appeared he was all wet. When he was kidnapped, he never fell in the water, they just took him from the boat right onto the Other's boat. Maybe he later jumped off the boat or tried to escape and drowned. Now trying to warn/help the survivors.

2.He is using his "powers" to mentally communicate with Shannon and is able to project himself.

I'm of the mind that Walt was a hallucination, directly tied to her losing Vincent. She's unhinged following Doone's death, in addition to extreme sleep deprivation. Being alone in the jungle like that only tweaks her fragile mental state further. She sees Walt wet because she is responsible for Vincent and failed. Believing she failed Walt, she sees a failed Walt which in a worst case scenario would be a drowned Walt...

 

[shuke]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it. 

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.

Not buying that explanation.

 

[shuke]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think the guy in the "hatch" was the same guy running in the stadium. Again, the timelines just don't fit. Hell, how long would it have taken to dig out the area the "hatch" is in? That and all the '70s looking stuff make it seem (to me) that the guy was there 30 (or so) years ago.

I love how you guys are questioning the timeline but fail to question the fact that Desmond basically granted Jack a miracle.Come on people.

 

[Hov34]

During the "scenes for next week" for me that was actually just more shots from the first episode, the overvoice said something about "next week -- find out what happens to everyone on the island."  or some such sweeping generalization.  After it happened, my wife and I looked at each other confused -- it sounded like next week could have been the grand finale.

I know it won't be, but I thought it was kind of a strange remark to make after the first episode of the season.

The previews seem to sound that way every week...My Theory: (possibly construed as a spoiler - BEWARE)

The Desmond dude talked about "miracles" and then low and behold Jack's patient was healed... Maybe he was brought to the Island and abducted the same way Walt was brought to the island and abducted because of his "powers". And Desmond was hiding from the others in the bunker?

Nothing about this? Pure Genius...At least someone give me a "you're Effin nuts..."

 

[Mahoney]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it. 

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.

Based on what? How old do you think he is on the island?

Not sure how long he's been on the island, but I think the hospital scenes were older than 4 years back. Jack's hair looked awfully 80's to me, but that would make it 25 years ago, which is ludicrous. I still say that's either 8, 15, or 16 years ago to coincide with the numbers. 4 seems too short.

I guess I don't understand why people are assuming Jack with long hair was longer than 4 years ago......the only thing that is different about him is his hair length. People get crew cuts all the time......it isn't something that is reserved for people 8 years or older than people without crew cuts. Clearly that "miracle" leads them to getting married, and at some point get divorced.....very, very possible. I'm standing by my case of beer. One major character loses his legs ability 4 years ago, and for some reason Jack saves a woman....from losing her legs.....why wouldn't you think these 2 events are directly tied to one another? Of all the injuies in the world they made her recover from it happened to be an injury that one of the other 14 characters in the show was afflicted with? C'mon now....tighten up.

 

[Smoo]

Where can I place a wager down that the moment Jack's patient/wife regains feeling in her lower extremities, John Locke loses his?

I'd bet a case on it.

I don't think so. When lock was in Australia he says hs'e lived that way for "4 damn years".

And your point is?

The Jack/Carol Vessey scenes seem to be have taken place longer than 4 years ago.

Based on what? How old do you think he is on the island?

Not sure how long he's been on the island, but I think the hospital scenes were older than 4 years back. Jack's hair looked awfully 80's to me, but that would make it 25 years ago, which is ludicrous. I still say that's either 8, 15, or 16 years ago to coincide with the numbers. 4 seems too short.

Assuming a doctor doesn't graduate until he's 25 or so, Jack wouldn't have become a doctor until then. And even then it would probably take him a while to be as prominently placed as he seemed to be. I say he was at least 30 in those flashbacks. He doesn't look much older than 40 now. So I don't think it was any longer than 8 years ago. Probably much less.

 

[PC Load Letter]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think the guy in the "hatch" was the same guy running in the stadium.  Again, the timelines just don't fit.  Hell, how long would it have taken to dig out the area the "hatch" is in?  That and all the '70s looking stuff make it seem (to me) that the guy was there 30 (or so) years ago.

I love how you guys are questioning the timeline but fail to question the fact that Desmond basically granted Jack a miracle.Come on people.

I like where you're going with this one. To go a step further, Jack almost "owes" him one. What if Desmond somehow conspired to get everyone on that plane and then brought it down with his super magnet because he needs them for something.

 

[saintfool]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think the guy in the "hatch" was the same guy running in the stadium. Again, the timelines just don't fit. Hell, how long would it have taken to dig out the area the "hatch" is in? That and all the '70s looking stuff make it seem (to me) that the guy was there 30 (or so) years ago.

I love how you guys are questioning the timeline but fail to question the fact that Desmond basically granted Jack a miracle.Come on people.

dude, miracles are commonplace on the island. who cares! the problem is, of course, that she was Jack's 48, 151,623,424th patient....

 

[chet]

Maybe Desmond has granted miracles to people on the island, and this is a way that he gets his payback.I only watched the "catch-up" episode and the season 2 premiere so my idea could be way off base.

 

[Buckychudd]

During the "scenes for next week" for me that was actually just more shots from the first episode, the overvoice said something about "next week -- find out what happens to everyone on the island." or some such sweeping generalization. After it happened, my wife and I looked at each other confused -- it sounded like next week could have been the grand finale.

I know it won't be, but I thought it was kind of a strange remark to make after the first episode of the season.

You heard it slightly wrong.It was something like "see what happened to everyone on the plane".

I take it we are going to meet the other survivors from the plane. Probably the folks on the raft are going to run into them.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Just an fyi that according to IMDB, Jolene Blalock is making a guest appearance as "Nikki" in next week's episode.

 

[phatdawg]

That Desmond dude, when he was talking to Jack, said he was training for a race around the world. Maybe he was drawn to the island like Jack and the rest and he stumbled onto the underground place. Maybe the underground place far predates him. Just because he's inhabiting it now doesn't mean he was around when it was built.Though this explanation doesn't seem nearly mystical enough to be anywhere close to right. :(

 

[caabeel]

I'm of the mind that Walt was a hallucination, directly tied to her losing Vincent. She's unhinged following Doone's death, in addition to extreme sleep deprivation. Being alone in the jungle like that only tweaks her fragile mental state further. She sees Walt wet because she is responsible for Vincent and failed. Believing she failed Walt, she sees a failed Walt which in a worst case scenario would be a drowned Walt...

Interesting what he says to her though.....and says it backwards...."Press the button....."

 

[Smoo]

During the "scenes for next week" for me that was actually just more shots from the first episode, the overvoice said something about "next week -- find out what happens to everyone on the island." or some such sweeping generalization. After it happened, my wife and I looked at each other confused -- it sounded like next week could have been the grand finale.

I know it won't be, but I thought it was kind of a strange remark to make after the first episode of the season.

You heard it slightly wrong.It was something like "see what happened to everyone on the plane".

I take it we are going to meet the other survivors from the plane. Probably the folks on the raft are going to run into them.

It said "learn the fate of all the survivors". All it's talking about is the fate resulting from the events of Exodus. We don't currently know what's up with Michael, Sawyer, Jin and Walt. All it's saying is "we'll tell you about them next week". No need to read anything more into it.

 

[Buckychudd]

Also, the magnet is what controls the "black smoke" monster. I'm assuming that the monster is going to turn out to be the nanobots as is theoried.

The magnet also brought down the plane.

 

[noneother]

During the "scenes for next week" for me that was actually just more shots from the first episode, the overvoice said something about "next week -- find out what happens to everyone on the island."  or some such sweeping generalization.  After it happened, my wife and I looked at each other confused -- it sounded like next week could have been the grand finale.

I know it won't be, but I thought it was kind of a strange remark to make after the first episode of the season.

You heard it slightly wrong.It was something like "see what happened to everyone on the plane".

I take it we are going to meet the other survivors from the plane. Probably the folks on the raft are going to run into them.

It said "learn the fate of all the survivors". All it's talking about is the fate resulting from the events of Exodus. We don't currently know what's up with Michael, Sawyer, Jin and Walt. All it's saying is "we'll tell you about them next week". No need to read anything more into it.

 

[Mahoney]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't think the guy in the "hatch" was the same guy running in the stadium.  Again, the timelines just don't fit.  Hell, how long would it have taken to dig out the area the "hatch" is in?  That and all the '70s looking stuff make it seem (to me) that the guy was there 30 (or so) years ago.

I love how you guys are questioning the timeline but fail to question the fact that Desmond basically granted Jack a miracle.Come on people.

I like where you're going with this one. To go a step further, Jack almost "owes" him one. What if Desmond somehow conspired to get everyone on that plane and then brought it down with his super magnet because he needs them for something.

Perhaps Desmond is the Devil......He said to Jack on the stairs, "You look like you were running from the devil himself."

He continued to lead him with questions, "What would you have done if you fixed her?" Almost as if he is lining up a "deal with the devil"

I agree that throughout the season we will see Desmond being linked to all of the players involved. And there is probably some significance in the water sharing.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Has it ever been proposed that the entire island could be a vast ship with vegetation on top?

 

[noneother]

Also, the magnet is what controls the "black smoke" monster. I'm assuming that the monster is going to turn out to be the nanobots as is theoried.

The magnet also brought down the plane.

hold on here, NANO BOTS?? the guy is using turntable for crying out loud... NANO is SO today's technology... yeah right, Nano bots, but no Tivo?? crazy

 

[saintfool]

That Desmond dude, when he was talking to Jack, said he was training for a race around the world. Maybe he was drawn to the island like Jack and the rest and he stumbled onto the underground place. Maybe the underground place far predates him. Just because he's inhabiting it now doesn't mean he was around when it was built.

Though this explanation doesn't seem nearly mystical enough to be anywhere close to right. :(

this is completely plausible to me. he could be in hiding/seclusion frome the others or whatever else is there. like rousseau, in a way...

 

[Gold Dragon]

MRIs and generators also use strong magnets.

 

[Smoo]

MRIs and generators also use strong magnets.

This seems like the obvious guess.

 

[Incogneto]

Hmm....I like the devil idea...sounds plausable...plus, then we can use this smiley more:

 

[jazz12pg]

Why would the first thing Locke says to Jack, "I wouldn't touch that if I were you," referring to the computer?  Kind of a weird thing to say with a guy holding you hostage.

Maybe Locke already pressed the button himself?

Didn't Walt say something about pressing the button?

 

[Buckychudd]

Also, the magnet is what controls the "black smoke" monster.  I'm assuming that the monster is going to turn out to be the nanobots as is theoried.

The magnet also brought down the plane.

hold on here, NANO BOTS?? the guy is using turntable for crying out loud... NANO is SO today's technology... yeah right, Nano bots, but no Tivo?? crazy

The producers have said there is a non-mystical explanation to everything. Nanobots was one of the explinations tossed about to explain the smoke monster....the theory predates them breaking into the bunker.But obviously they're working on something very advanced on the island.

 

[EZD222]

I just thought of something.If that is Desmond in the Hatch, how in the hell does Jack recognize that quickly after a chance meeting that lasted 5 minutes possibly years ago?I think Desmond plays a bigger role in Jack's flashbacks and we will see this in the upcoming weeks.

 

[Smoo]

Why would the first thing Locke says to Jack, "I wouldn't touch that if I were you," referring to the computer? Kind of a weird thing to say with a guy holding you hostage.

Maybe Locke already pressed the button himself?

Didn't Walt say something about pressing the button?

WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLES!

 

[Buckychudd]

I just thought of something.

If that is Desmond in the Hatch, how in the hell does Jack recognize that quickly after a chance meeting that lasted 5 minutes possibly years ago?

I think Desmond plays a bigger role in Jack's flashbacks and we will see this in the upcoming weeks.

Ummm, if someone granted me a miracle I think I might remember them.....no matter how long ago it was.

 

[XNOUGHT]

This thread has over 30 people viewing at all times it seems.

 

[noneother]

I just thought of something.

If that is Desmond in the Hatch, how in the hell does Jack recognize that quickly after a chance meeting that lasted 5 minutes possibly years ago?

I think Desmond plays a bigger role in Jack's flashbacks and we will see this in the upcoming weeks.

Ummm, if someone granted me a miracle I think I might remember them.....no matter how long ago it was.

the talk.. I noticed the term "brotha" immediately, and I believe that was point...

 

[caabeel]

Why would the first thing Locke says to Jack, "I wouldn't touch that if I were you," referring to the computer? Kind of a weird thing to say with a guy holding you hostage.

Maybe Locke already pressed the button himself?

Didn't Walt say something about pressing the button?

WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLES!

When are they going to blow up the hatch?

 

[caabeel]

This thread has over 30 people viewing at all times it seems.

I'm hooked and I didn't even watch last season....

 

[Gold Dragon]

What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?

 

[Incogneto]

we are missing another important fact....Locke and Boone had been digging up that hatch for, I believe they said, 3 weeks now.Did the dude in the hatch not NOTICE two guys spendin 12 hrs a day for 3 weeks digging outside? The hatche was BURIED before Locke and Boone got there...so did the Dude ( ) know they were there previously? he seemed genuinly surprised that there was an explosion.there is a disconnect there for me.

 

[Smoo]

we are missing another important fact....Locke and Boone had been digging up that hatch for, I believe they said, 3 weeks now.

Did the dude in the hatch not NOTICE two guys spendin 12 hrs a day for 3 weeks digging outside? The hatche was BURIED before Locke and Boone got there...so did the Dude ( ) know they were there previously? he seemed genuinly surprised that there was an explosion.

there is a disconnect there for me.

Maybe that's why he set up the mirrors. It certainly doesn't make sense to have mirrors pointing at dirt if he was buried.