Buckychudd
Footballguy
Are you still trying to figure out what year it is?
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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (3 Viewers)
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Buckychudd
Footballguy
Did anyone ever go back and see if they could spot the "Shadowy Figures" a couple episodes ago?
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Guarantee you that Mr Ecko has some skeletons in the closet, just like everyone else on the island.I am a big fan of Mr. Echo now. Something tells me that he is going to end up saving the kids or give up his life to save them.
Just from his actions so far, going with Jin to protect him while finding Michael and not leaving Sawyer behind, he is on Jack's level (giving blood to Boone) of selfless.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
The shadowy figures was a wide shot of Said clutching Shannon. It was Ana Lucia holding a gun in the wrong hand. I'm just chalking it up to poor editing.http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name...bum=775&pos=830
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Darth Cheney
Footballguy
In the case of Godwin, you are assuming that the Others knew that the plane was goingto crash. From what I got from the conversation between Anna and Godwin right before she killed him was that he happened to be in the area, was seen by Bernard and had to take on the role of being a survivor.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Here is what I think about the Others:There is one older group: maybe the original inhabitants of the Dharma project. These would include Godwin and the grizzly looking guy on the boat. They are ex-U.S. military who were on the island. For some reason,( be it a science experiment or maybe they went Col. Kurtz) they've set up a weird litttle fiefdom on the island where they use children as experimental subjects in order to create a type of "super soldier". Ethan ( who looked like a younger guy ) and those others who kidnapped the tailies are the 1st generation of these children. Remember in the show, Ethan seemed very strong, quick, agile and knowledgable in fighting.This next generation of children ( the Walts, teddy bear girl and her brother) are the next step in this experiment. They are a move towards mind control, mental telepathy, and telekinesis.... some of which Walt had already exhibited. As far as Echo and jin in the jungle goes..... remember we only saw a few days of the tailies ordeal. It wouldn't suprise me in the future to see a flashback or episode that deals with a previous encounter between the tailies and the children.... now all brainwashed and experimented on.
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
That is what I percieved too. My question is, if he happened to be in the area, why did he have normal clothes and shoes on? The rest of the others seem to be barely clothed.Also, has anyone done a number count on the others camp?
I think there has to be at least 9 adults alive (they took 9 from the beach)
3 kids (walt and 2 from the talies)
4 dead (Ethan, Goodwin, 2 from Ekco, 1 from Ana Lucia
So they have to have a camp big enough to hold at least 16 people. Do you think they are hiding at another Dharma site?
Hey Hulk, not to rain on your parade, but on the baggage claim it had "09SEP21". While it seems like it could be September 21st, 2009, I actually think it is probably just September 21st. Remember that September is month 9, and I could easily see more relevance to print both 0921 and SEP21 for the date. I just don't see how the year on a baggage claim would have any relevance, whereas for overseas travellers and baggage handlers it might be worthwhile to have both the number representation of the Day and Month and the abbreviated representation of it, especially if the baggage handlers don't speak English. There are a good deal of Asian travellers to Australia and "SEP" probably doesn't mean much to them or baggage handlers in say Korea if they don't speak English. Also, Italian and Portuguese translations do not have a "P" in their versions of September.If the poster is all you have besides the ticket, then it might be tough to determine a date since that could easily be a mistaken prop, a past event, or an event coming later that year. Maybe the Kate centric episode will give you another good clue.
Goodwin may have been a bit more important than we think. Ethan had pretty normal clothes, so they might have access to stuff, but maybe the underlings have to wear the junk. If the Others did know about the plane crash ahead of time, then he may have been ready, but just happened to be closer to the tailies.Another explanation, which may be the simplest is that he did have some time, not a lot, but some and if Bernard's seat went that far, he could have easily been near where some luggage or dead people went. While he had clothes on, I don't remember them looking like they were just dry cleaned.
I do think you are right about the Dharma site. I think the people that started the Others clan were definitely from a Dharma site and are probably living there. It is probably the central site, if there is one. The hatch was found by dumb luck when Boone/Locke dropped something metal on it and so was the tailies bunker. Unless the Others scoured the island, it is likely that they would never have found them.
We didn't even know about Ethan till well after day one and since there were no attacks until Claire's, which was after Jack found the cave with water, there was no reason to be suspicious. Heck Ethan could have even gotten the clothes from one of the tailies that they grabbed the first couple days.Well I thought Ethan had time to get the clothes from the random luggage while they were asleep. We really didn't see him until later on and with a group that large, he could have easily slipped in later.
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
True. What I posted above has always been my speculation until seeing Goodwin.We didn't even know about Ethan till well after day one and since there were no attacks until Claire's, which was after Jack found the cave with water, there was no reason to be suspicious. Heck Ethan could have even gotten the clothes from one of the tailies that they grabbed the first couple days.Well I thought Ethan had time to get the clothes from the random luggage while they were asleep. We really didn't see him until later on and with a group that large, he could have easily slipped in later.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
I'm very lucky I'm not a bookie
Wingnut
Footballguy
Still have "Abandoned" on Tivo. Went back and watched and listened. I have no clue how those people were able to make sense out of any of those whispers. Im not buyin it.I wish I still had some of those episodes Tivoed so I could go back and see if I could hear anything remotely close to whats on that page.
Ok well I did see like half of this one. Walked in about 5 minutes before the idiot who helped the guy out of the pit got his neck broke.This feels like a werewolf game (I'm sure someone will quote that last sentence and add a derisive comment of their choice).The others are the "wolves". Outnumbered. Trying to blend in with the sheep villagers. The top priority of the wolves is to eliminate the "good ones" i.e. the smart people who are known to figure things out or those who show good instincts. The people you want alive at the end are those who don't pay attention, screw around, take nothing seriously, and as a result make all the wrong moves. You know, people like Capella and Pickles. If I'm a bad guy, they live til the end because they'll tear the community apart every time. People who actually take analysis seriously, who actually listen to everyone and pay attention, they DIE.
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They have the MP3's of the 3 channels of audio directly under they're transcripts.I think they've done a decent job of making sense of them. I only listened to them once but I was able to pick out a few words.Still have "Abandoned" on Tivo. Went back and watched and listened. I have no clue how those people were able to make sense out of any of those whispers. Im not buyin it.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Only the guy that had his neck snapped was the guy in the pit and your analysis is based on half an episode of a show that's been running for over a year now.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Didn't Perrineau used to be on Oz also? The convict in the wheelchair who'd speak at the beginning of episodes?
NFL Sunday Ticket
Footballguy
so, going way back to claire's flashbacks. i remember there was some revelation that the psychic sent her on that plane with no one waiting on the other end to adopt her baby. it was believed at that time that the psychic sent her on that plane knowing it would crash and she would be forced to raise the child herself, thereby eliminating the chance of her putting the child up for adoption. i think what the psychic told us was more or less what happens to the kids that end up with the others. he saw how evil claire's baby would be if raised by anyone other than claire. it was almost a warning to keep that baby away from the OTHERS. i wonder if his verbage was ever versed like "this child must never be raised by 'others'".
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Irregardless.
I think he said "by an other".Ironically if that's what he was afraid of, he may have doomed the kid to exactly that fate by putting Claire on the bogus trip to LA.
Does anyone think that with increased numbers, information and supplies the survivors will make an organized attempt to find the others & the kids?The tailies didn't have the manpower or weapons to take on the others. Plus they had a pretty bad experience early on.The main group just didn't know anything about them. Other than Ethan and all the crazy talk from the French woman they had no reason to believe anyone else even existed.Putting these two groups together should mean finding out a lot more about the the location and motivation of the others in future episodes.
jplvr
Footballguy
My money is on Sayid in that challenge. What intrigues me is the popularity challenge where you knock out the people you like the least first. I think Claire skates by here for most of the game, but does she have the skills to take out someone at the end? Doubtful.Can't wait for next week's epsisode to get the story lines back on track.
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skillz
Footballguy
I am actually waiting for the French chic to make her first appearance of the season. I think Desmond is found dead somewhere else on the island at some point but that's just my guess. I really think it all hits the fan when the tailies and Mike see the weapons in the hatch. I'm sure Anna and Mike are going to want to hunt for the others. I still don't know why all those weapons are in the hatch in the first place.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Probably in case one of their expirements goes awry and creates a group of people that tend to kill any strangers that come to their island. Oh wait, that already happened...
I agree though, with the firepower down there and 40+ people, I think they could mount a serious attack. Problem is that it will be jungle fighting and something tells me that aside from Locke and Echo, the rest of the survivors wouldn't do so well at that.At least maybe now we find out what made Mr. Echo so afraid of the kids. Although, now that I thought about it, the boat guy was armed, so he might have not wanted to get shot.
jamny
Footballguy
Does it bother anyone else that the writers are just making this all up as they go along?Had this been a one season show, all the answers would have been revealed already. But once they signed up for another season, the writers started stretching the show with extended back-stories, useless divergences and now a whole new cast of "tail-enders", with upcoming back stories.I bet if you look at any of the original flight episodes, not one of the "tail-enders" are on the plane. oooo, maybe they're all "The Others"I was one of the biggest fans of the show early on in the first season, but gave up half-way through. I decided to give it a shot again this year and it's the same crap. The writers are just stringing everyone along while they decide what to do with the story (depending on how many years they can extend it)It should have been a one year show and it would have been awesome. I'm sure I'll get slammed for this since this is a die-hard thread.
I am not going to slam you at all, but they have been tying in back-stories since the beginning though, so if you don't like the back stories then you will never like the show. I actually like them, I think it is pretty cool to understand the characters.To be honest, I actually wish this week's show was stretched into a couple episodes because I think they glossed over the first couple days of the tailies and the attacks. I thought the Anna/Nathan/Goodwin stuff was really good, but they went through the other stories too fast. I guess they did that since we already knew last week that there were only 4 tailies left out of 23.
Anyway, I remember reading an interview of the creators back in early season 1 where they said that they actually had enough material to do 8-9 seasons if they wanted, but that it probably wouldn't go that long. I don't think this is like the Matrix where they just made up the sequels for the $$$, but I also don't think it is like Babylon 5 where you already know the ending and the show is just going down the path to the end. I think they know exactly how it all will end, but that they may change character stories/who dies along the way based on the immense fan base that they have. They definitely don't have all of the episodes written, but I don't care as long as they have the plan in place and don't deviate from their original thoughts/answers to all of our questions. I could be completely wrong, but that would suck!
