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Any Pats fans know how close to 100% Mitchell (elbow?) was this season?So where are people seeing Mitchell go in mocks or dynasty startup drafts? I'd say high WR3 or a little more?
Any Pats fans know how close to 100% Mitchell (elbow?) was this season?So where are people seeing Mitchell go in mocks or dynasty startup drafts? I'd say high WR3 or a little more?
I really like Mitchell going forward, i think NE may have finally drafted a decent WR after so many busts.So where are people seeing Mitchell go in mocks or dynasty startup drafts? I'd say high WR3 or a little more?
I know the inj looked really bad and he kept wearing the brace, but I don't think the elbow was much of an issue by the end of the year. He hurt his knee and thats what kept him sidelined at the end of the year.Any Pats fans know how close to 100% Mitchell (elbow?) was this season?
Agreed. Not surprised to see Mitchell back in the 7th round given how unproven he remains. But even in limited time and hurt, he showed a lot more than Boyd ever did.I personally would much rather have Mitchell then Boyd.
The elbow likely meant that the Pats didn't design any plays for him early on. Mitchell looked great during the second half and came up big in the super bowl. I'm hoping he's Deion Branch 2.0I know the inj looked really bad and he kept wearing the brace, but I don't think the elbow was much of an issue by the end of the year. He hurt his knee and thats what kept him sidelined at the end of the year.
Not quite sure, but as an owner I'd be asking for a late 1st to move him in dynasty.So where are people seeing Mitchell go in mocks or dynasty startup drafts? I'd say high WR3 or a little more?
What size of league? Like a 16 team league? Late or what?Not quite sure, but as an owner I'd be asking for a late 1st to move him in dynasty.
My 10 team PPR league. I'd be perfectly happy letting him sit on my roster and not use him if he doesn't improve on this past season, but he's shown good hands and other abilities and being used more as the season progressed so no point in selling low. My thoughts are if you liked what you saw you have to pay because I liked it too.jacobo_moses said:What size of league? Like a 16 team league? Late or what?
I see it as a good thing. He isn't a speed guy with more of an underneath and possession style, so taking the roof off the defense only helps him.Big hit to Malcolm Mitchell's fantasy value.
Thinking with Hogan, Edelman, Gronk, and now Cooks, MMs time on the field may be a bit limited.I see it as a good thing. He isn't a speed guy with more of an underneath and possession style, so taking the roof off the defense only helps him.
Edelman has averaged 9.7 targets, 6.5 receptions, 70 yards, and 0.36 TD per game since taking over the starting job after Welker left. That works out to an average of 155 targets, 109 receptions, 1120 receiving yards, and 6 TD over 16 games. Edelman's numbers look a lot lower because he's missed a lot of time. Edelman definitely has benefited to injuries to other receivers / targets, but heisstill a fixture in the NE offense.I feel like Edelman is praised for being a comfort blanket when he's been average at best with 2 great years. My hope is Edelman is replaceable just like everyone else that's ever come through the Foxborough doors (other than Brady and Gronk). Hogan takes a huge hit, and then I think it's a fight between Edelman (30) and Mitchell (23) for the other pieces of the pie. Cooks will get his and so will Gronk obviously. But after that it's a crapshoot, and I'm leaning towards the rookie who showed promise rather than the older vet who's been good for 3 out of the 7 years in the league.
According to ESPN's Mike Reiss, Malcolm Mitchell "was kept on the sidelines" throughout spring practices.
The Patriots are cognizant of Mitchell's extensive injury history and wanted to keep him out of harm's way by limiting his reps this offseason. Mitchell promised he'll be a full go for training camp. Mitchell showed potential by snagging 32 catches for 401 yards and four touchdowns as a rookie last year, but there are too many mouths to feed in New England for him to have any real redraft value.
Source: ESPN.com
Jun 18 - 8:43 AM
Interesting year coming up for the passing game in NE. Edleman will be 32, coming off a major injury, and has other injury history (right?). Hogan hasn't been the picture of health, hasn't ever topped 41 catches, and will be 31. Britt is, well....Britt. Same with Dorsett.Malcolm Mitchell quietly moves up the depth chart:
Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher Mar 13
#Patriots Current WR Depth Chart:
Brandin Cooks
Julian Edelman
Chris Hogan
Malcom Mitchell
Kenny Britt
Phillip Dorsett
Matthew Slater
Maybe. Mitchell on paper may be up to 4th. I think Britt moves up to 4th. We won't know for a long time. Mitchell hasn't been able to got on the field in over a year. No idea what his outlook is at this point. Said to be a chronic knee issue dating back to his college days. Maybe it gets better, maybe it doesn't, maybe it gets worse. He said at the end of February that he felt great . . . yet he couldn't get activated for the Super Bowl a few weeks earlier. Color me a little skeptical. With every NE off season, a lot can change between now and Week 1.Malcolm Mitchell quietly moves up the depth chart:
Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher Mar 13
#Patriots Current WR Depth Chart:
Brandin Cooks
Julian Edelman
Chris Hogan
Malcom Mitchell
Kenny Britt
Phillip Dorsett
Matthew Slater
I’m not getting too excited. With Edelman and gronk there at least next year I think the rest of the work gets distributed. I’m not sure but I think the cooks trade was after the Edelman injury. Mitchell/hogan will be the option 3/4 on the team. I don’t know what they’ll do come draft time but you could argue that they take a wr in the 1st or 2nd. I personally wouldn’t move a pick in the first 2 rounds for him.How positively do we see the Cooks trade affecting his stock? Certainly seems like a good indicator that they think he will be healthy and ready to go in 2018. While obviously not an elite talent, I think the next 1-2 years with Brady he could put up reasonable WR2 type numbers.
The Cooks trade was before the NFL draft. Edeleman was injured in the preseason.I’m not sure but I think the cooks trade was after the Edelman injury.
There goes that theory of being an Edelman replacement.....I should have taken the time to look that up.The Cooks trade was before the NFL draft. Edeleman was injured in the preseason.
The good news is he earned Brady's trust and seemed to figure out the offense which is usually the only thing that matters at the position with the Pats (and so many rookies and veterans in the past have not done)...if Brady doesn't trust you you have no chance and as you point out there is not a good track record with young WRs with the Pats...the bad news is the kid can not stay on the field...if he can he has a chance to be a pretty big piece of their offense...the question than becomes will it translate to fantasy success...Last WR they drafted that amounted to anything was Edelman in 2009 and before that was Deion Branch in 2002. Low odds Mitchell does, but they are due to have one they drafted pan out.
Didn't seem to help him before Cooks came to NE.How positively do we see the Cooks trade affecting his stock? Certainly seems like a good indicator that they think he will be healthy and ready to go in 2018. While obviously not an elite talent, I think the next 1-2 years with Brady he could put up reasonable WR2 type numbers.
Actually it did...outside of Branch (and it is very close) he had the most impact of any rookie WR in the BB/Brady era...they also targeted him 7 times for 6 receptions in the Super Bowl which is a huge statement...the kid's issue is staying on the field...he has a lot to prove in that area...Didn't seem to help him before Cooks came to NE.
He played in one season, as a rookie, before Cooks was there?Didn't seem to help him before Cooks came to NE.
New England also believes wide receiver Malcolm Mitchell, who missed the entire 2017 season because of a knee injury, will be a productive receiver, per Rapoport.
NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports the Patriots are shopping third-year WR Malcolm Mitchell.
It's an indication Mitchell is on the wrong side of the roster bubble and likely wouldn't make the Patriots' 53 if cutdowns happened today. Per Pelissero's colleague Ian Rapoport, New England is "high" on Kenny Britt as their probable No. 3 receiver during Julian Edelman's four-game ban. Mitchell had a promising rookie campaign in 2016, but he missed all of last year with ongoing knee problems. Mitchell also had balky knees during his college career.
Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Jul 23 - 4:06 PM
Malcolm Mitchell - WR - Patriots
Patriots WR Malcolm Mitchell underwent a procedure on his knee on Monday.
Good luck with trading him. (NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported on Monday the Patriots are shopping Mitchell.) He hasn't been healthy in nearly two years, and reportedly could miss all of 2018, with the Providence Journal's Mark Daniels adding it's "also possible" Mitchell gets released by the Patriots with an injury settlement at some point in the next few weeks. Mitchell flashed as a 2016 rookie but has long been battling knee problems going back to college.
Source: Mark Daniels on Twitter
Jul 23 - 6:05 PM
I just posted in the N.E thread that J Matthews was not getting any respect.That Jordan Matthews train is getting some major steam rolling into camp.
Real shame. Just when it looked like they actually drafted a good WR. Still, even if he never plays another down he has his ring and he stepped up big time on the biggest of stages. Wish him the best he's a great kid.stuckinthemuck said:He's a truly good guy in real life who sparked great promise in the postseason a few years ago. What a shame.