In an interview with Metro, Jones dismissed the largely negative reviews of Netflix’s new show Iron Fist— including io9's, which called the show Marvel’s first real failure. He said that critics don’t get the show the way fans will, possibly because they don’t understand the comic books or community that surround the Iron Fist franchise. This follows Jones temporarily leaving Twitter after getting into a heated discussion on race and representation in Hollywood, while defending Iron Fist as “one of the most diverse shows” in Marvel’s Netflix canon.
We're in 1959-westerns territory.comic book stuff has officially jumped the shark....
Yeah I have been hearing pretty bad things as well.Reviews of the first 6 episodes haven't been kind but I'll watch it regardless.
Power Man and Iron Fist, the 2nd comic series I ever read after ROM SpaceKnight. Loved both.Who knew? Well beside everyone but me I suppose.
That plus Cage's 70's outfit would be awesome.I was never a big comic reader, despite loving the super hero genre. Most of my knowledge of IF comes from appearances on shows like Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
My only real preconception going in is that they please stay away from the yellow and green costume that could make a gay pride parade ask him to tone it down a bit.
Ouch...Reviews of the first 6 episodes haven't been kind but I'll watch it regardless.
The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported a 14% approval rating with an average rating of 5.8/10 based on 14 reviews.
Now there's a series to wait for. It was the first series I bought from the rack. Dire Wraiths, go banish those bastards!Power Man and Iron Fist, the 2nd comic series I ever read after ROM SpaceKnight. Loved both.
Fair point. Although 13 episodes of black widow would still be highly watchable.These Netflix shows are all well done (well maybe except for this new one) but the only one I've ever finished is DD season 1. These stories work so much better for me in an easily digestible 2-hour movie. 13-hour character expositions of these mostly empty heroes is just waaaaaaay too much. Maybe if they were 6 or 8 episode seasons.
I never read any of the Iron Fist comics, but I'm interested to see how the Colleen character develops. She seems pretty badass.
4 in (I'm sick so binge watching), it's enjoyable but the negative reviews are understandable.bcdjr1 said:I've only watched the first two episodes, but I'm liking this show so far.
Pretty much agreed on all your points except I'll cheer for Colleen and her top student.I feel little connection to the characters. The only character I am rooting for so far is the villain's personal assistant.
Like the defenders?They should just fold all of these sideshows into daredevil/punisher and be done with it.
I think that it is supposed to be like the trauma is fresh to him. During his training, he was taught to repress his emotions; pack all those distractions away so that they cannot interfere with his performing his duty as the Iron Fist. Now that he's back in New York and away from K'un-Lun, he's allowing himself to feel everything again. So it is almost like he just lost his parents.The writing is too often hit-you-over-the head obvious. The writing and acting are at odds which is the director's fault to me. Writers have the character constantly dwelling on traumatic events 15 years past, while the actor portrays them affecting him as greatly as if they happened last week. Director needs to get them on the same page. Rein the portrayal down, or have the writers make the event more repressed and build to a poignant expression of how they affect him. The way they did it makes me feel like someone is frequently shouting at me, "LOOK! He has traumatic events that define him! LOOK LOOK LOOK!" There's just so little subtlety to the story so far.
I'd considered that near the end of episode 2 about the time I made my earlier post. But I don't think that's the case, especially now I'm a lot further in. If it was their goal I think they failed at portraying it that way with any consistency.And as for what you said about him being an idiot - I think a lot of that should be chalked up to him being a bit naive about the adult world of New York. He was 10 when his plane crashed, and since then he's been in another dimension, so he doesn't understand a lot about what it means to be a grown up in the big city, nevermind how business works or any of the rest of that. He knows what it's like to be a kid there and how to be a warrior monk.
As have I and I think it is great. Benchmark for reviewers seems to be 6. Don't get the negative reviews but it's still early for me.bcdjr1 said:I've only watched the first two episodes, but I'm liking this show so far.
We'll see. I'm 4 episodes in, and it's not a bad show... I just think it doesn't measure up to the other three Defenders shows. I think it might be that the villain isn't clear yet, so we're not getting any charisma from that side. Jessica Jones lacked this a bit, but Daredevil and Luke Cage had magnetic villains early, even if Cottonmouth wasn't the endgame villain.CentralPA said:As have I and I think it is great. Benchmark for reviewers seems to be 6. Don't get the negative reviews but it's still early for me.
Huh Jessica Jones had the best marvel villain of any off their movies or shows imoWe'll see. I'm 4 episodes in, and it's not a bad show... I just think it doesn't measure up to the other three Defenders shows. I think it might be that the villain isn't clear yet, so we're not getting any charisma from that side. Jessica Jones lacked this a bit, but Daredevil and Luke Cage had magnetic villains early, even if Cottonmouth wasn't the endgame villain.
Eventually, but we didn't really meet him until late in the show as I recall... he was in some dream sequences early, but it felt more like it was JJ vs. her own demons (that he caused) more than it was JJ vs. him for the first half of the show. Hazy memories here, though - I could be way off.Huh Jessica Jones had the best marvel villain of any off their movies or shows imo
Nah, he shows up in episode 2, sends the kids into the closet and the girl wets herself. Don't see his face though until episode 3 when Jessica trails the cop back to Kilgrave after making the cop think he killed Trish.Eventually, but we didn't really meet him until late in the show as I recall... he was in some dream sequences early, but it felt more like it was JJ vs. her own demons (that he caused) more than it was JJ vs. him for the first half of the show. Hazy memories here, though - I could be way off.
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