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***Official*** Miami Dolphins 2014 Off/In Season (1 Viewer)
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massraider
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jurb26
Footballguy
What about oline or CB?
ChuckLiddell
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Crabtree or Bowe? Shouldnt be too cost prohibitive, and we just freed up some dough. They arguably fit 17s strenghts better than Wallace did.
Todem
Footballguy
We have needs everywhere. I don't see a guard you take at 14 though. An impact LB, CB or WR seems more likely.
CB
LB
WR
G
FS
Are of the highest priority.
Todem
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jurb26
Footballguy
If Wayne's is there I think Mia should take him.
Need a RB and backup QB as well (why not bring Bush and Matt Moore back?). They have money to address most of these in free agency though. Frankly, they have to look into LB and FS in free agency since the draft is so weak there IMO.
CB is interesting right now. I really like what I have read on McCain, he seems like a good fit at nickle. Can Taylor or Davis be a starter? If they can't, why not look to move them too? Waynes would be an good addition as a bigger corner across from Grimes, of course.
Still have to figure out the Clay situation, as that could free up even more cash. Hope they can retain him. If not, I would be on board with a more aggressive move at WR like Crabtree or Parker in the draft. If so, a cheaper guy like Cecil Shorts would be a good fit for Tannehill.
I like a lot of the second round guards, I think that is the best bet there.
I'm excited that Miami was able to turn two players they were about to cut into something yesterday, even if it wasn't much. Saves money too.
I like the idea of Stills a lot. We're about to find out how much of Tannehill's deep ball troubles were Wallace's bad attitude.
DropKick
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Not sure I get the Stills hype... a dangerous deep threat but just an average NFL receiver. For Miami, he is an inexpensive Wallace replacement. Not that there is anything wrong with that or what he brings to the table. I don't think there is a huge ceiling.psychobillies said:
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
He is 23 and has 1500+ receiving yards in the NFL. He runs a sub 4.4, and has shown he is not a one trick pony. Im not calling him a lock to be a stud or even a starter, but how can you possibly place limits on his ceiling at this point? All he has done is produce...and worth repeating... 23 years old.
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jurb26
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I think he's shown he is mostly a one trick pony up to now. That's not to say he always will be. Like you said he's young, 23. I'm very curious how he does this year. Let's face it, NO is pretty much optimal circumstances for WR production. Elite QB, pass heavy offense, had an elite threat to take pressure off in Graham and extremely good play calling/scheme. Will he be as good outside of that offense? I don't know. I'm just as curious about Graham in Sea to be honest. I think most are accepting that as a major blow to his fantasy value.
ChuckLiddell
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This link comes from a post in the Suh appreciation thread. If it is accurate in its details, it is a substantial concern. $28M against the 2016 cap? Thats a ridiculous amount, even if the cap is going up.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25109985/ndamukong-suhs-contract-could-come-back-to-haunt-dolphins
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25109985/ndamukong-suhs-contract-could-come-back-to-haunt-dolphins
ChuckLiddell
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Pulling these out of the Stills thread, but they came from Rotoworld blurbs. In his first season, he clearly was a one trick pony, and did quite well with that one trick given his 6th round draft status and extremely young age. In year 2, he seemed to turn a corner with regard to the extent of his route tree and use in the passing game. Nice progression from a solid year one to a better year two. Granted, Tannehill is no Drew Brees, so expectations may need to be tempered, but the notion that Stills is a one trick pony is definitely in dispute.
Dolphins acquired WR Kenny Stills from the Saints in exchange for LB Dannell Ellerbe and a 2015 third-round pick.
We're not sure what the Saints are thinking here. Stills is a soon-to-be 23-year-old playmaker with two years left on his contract at minimum salary. It's a great get for the Dolphins, who were going to cut Ellerbe and his inflated salary anyway. Stills isn't just a deep threat, either; he was fourth in the league among receivers with his 78.8 percent catch rate last season. Acquiring Stills may mean the end is near for Mike Wallace in Miami. Mar 13 - 12:37
Kenny Stills' most common route run in 2014 was a hitch.
As a rookie in 2013, Stills mostly ran vertical "go" routes. The Saints asked him to expand his tree last year and he responded with impressive execution. Drew Brees had a 112.0 passer rating when targeting Stills, who caught 74.1 percent of his targetsand finished with a 63-931-3 line. Brandin Cooks will return to take away some of Stills' underneath looks, but there's still plenty to like here -- especially with Marques Colston nearing the end of the line.
Need to resign some guys who could be "spiked" in the second year too, but have $20mm in 2016 cap space at the moment.
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Kool-Aid Larry
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Todem
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DropKick
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I really think the AFC East gets crazy next year. New England has lost big names on the defense. Lots of respect for Belichick and his ability to adapt but injuries and attrition could easily bring them back to the pack. Miami's defense could be formidable as could the Bills as well. If Buffalo gets good QB play, they could be scary. They have play makers on offense (McCoy, Watkins, now Clay, etc.). Lots of changes in NY but let's hope nothing goes well for the Jets.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Percy Harvin in Buffalo too. If they get even average QB play, they will be a real tough out.
Jets got a lot better too. Their top 3 CBs are probably the best trio in football, anfter being one of the worst last year. At least in the top 5. I have a feeling they are going to make a play for Brees too. Just a gut feeling. Seems like New Orleans may have accepted that they are not a championship caliber team and may be ready to move on and get value while there still is value to be returned.
DropKick
Footballguy
Wow, that does makes sense. As you know, the Dolphins could have landed Brees when he left San Diego. The Brady/Brees competition would have been great for the NFL.
Brees is my dynasty QB... I hope he doesn't go to NYJ. It could be an upgrade over N'Orleans, especially after this off-season. I just couldn't root for the Jets.
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Englishteacher
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What do you guys think of Gurley to Miami?
I just can't get behind drafting a guy with such an injury concern. I wouldn't rule out a RB though since Philbin and Lazor don't seem to trust Miller.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
They could lean on Miller early and ease Gurley into the role. Just saw Gurley mentioned with a link to Miami as a BPA pick in his thread.
I was banking on Miller next year as a RB2/3 but a Gurley draft pick would obviously kill his value. Of course, Miller is a FA after this year is he not?
Yes. Miller is a FA after next year along with Tannehill and Oliver Vernon, so they're going to need to figure out a way to squeeze them all under the cap.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
If he is truly a generational AP-esque talent, then you cant let a slightly above average guy like Lamar Miller stop you from drafting him. Especially if he is in his walk year. If you can get a talent like they say Gurley is, on a rookie 14th overall pick deal for 4-5 years, you have to very strongly consider doing that, and letting Miller walk unless the hometown discount is simply spectacular. I personally have never seen Gurley play aside from highlight reals, but people whose opinions I trust say he is absolutely the real deal.
I would also hope that if he falls to them that they strongly consider all offers. If another team has a real strong desire to add him and is willing to overpay, you have to consider that. We have a few glaring holes, and starting RB happens to not be one of them right now, so if we can use the draft position to plug several holes instead of fortifying a position that is already OK, then that has to be considered.
If he is as good as people are saying he is, I suspect that a team in need will trade up before 14 to grab him, rather than take their chances on waiting that long. I know most mocks have him falling into our range, but if he is truly as special as people claim, I bet someone trades up into the top 10 to ensure that they get him.
I would also hope that if he falls to them that they strongly consider all offers. If another team has a real strong desire to add him and is willing to overpay, you have to consider that. We have a few glaring holes, and starting RB happens to not be one of them right now, so if we can use the draft position to plug several holes instead of fortifying a position that is already OK, then that has to be considered.
If he is as good as people are saying he is, I suspect that a team in need will trade up before 14 to grab him, rather than take their chances on waiting that long. I know most mocks have him falling into our range, but if he is truly as special as people claim, I bet someone trades up into the top 10 to ensure that they get him.
Biabreakable
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Miami Dolphins: 5 Best Offseason Moves
Just looking at Miami's defensive ranks from last season, they were 6th best in yards allowed to the pass but 24th in rushing yards allowed.
I would think Suh helps a great deal especially against the run.
The Dolphins could end up running more offensive plays in 2015 if they do significantly improve their run defense.
Just looking at Miami's defensive ranks from last season, they were 6th best in yards allowed to the pass but 24th in rushing yards allowed.
I would think Suh helps a great deal especially against the run.
The Dolphins could end up running more offensive plays in 2015 if they do significantly improve their run defense.
SwampDawg
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Joe Summer
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Hmmm. That's perfect timing for the Dolphins, don't you think? Getting rid of a disappointing player without having to pay his salary. Seems like it would be a pretty sneaky strategy for teams to discourage certain players from staying clean and sober.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Feel like we can actually go BPA in this draft. Unlike other recent seasons we dont have a glaring flashing red light need this year. We can use help at a few places, but none are positions that 100% have to be addressed with the 14th overall pick.
If Gurley is as good as they say he is, and is a once in a generation talent, then he will probably be the BPA if he is available. You have a strong lean in another direction?
As a Lamar Miller owner, and one who has been leaning toward more loyalty to my dynasty team than my real team after decades of disappointment and disgust, the Gurley pick would hurt in some ways. However, just from a pure Fins fan perspective with no fantasy influence, I think thats who I would be hoping to get. I base this completely on what I read - dont watch a lot of college football and have never actually seen the guy play. What I read says that he is the best RB since AP. Although, I did read the same about Trent Richardson a few years ago.
ETA - If he is indeed as good as they say, I bet someone trades up to get him before he gets to 14 anyway. Especially with rumors of Miami coveting him.
If Gurley is as good as they say he is, and is a once in a generation talent, then he will probably be the BPA if he is available. You have a strong lean in another direction?
As a Lamar Miller owner, and one who has been leaning toward more loyalty to my dynasty team than my real team after decades of disappointment and disgust, the Gurley pick would hurt in some ways. However, just from a pure Fins fan perspective with no fantasy influence, I think thats who I would be hoping to get. I base this completely on what I read - dont watch a lot of college football and have never actually seen the guy play. What I read says that he is the best RB since AP. Although, I did read the same about Trent Richardson a few years ago.
ETA - If he is indeed as good as they say, I bet someone trades up to get him before he gets to 14 anyway. Especially with rumors of Miami coveting him.
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If Scherff or Collins is there, I think we have to take them. Guard is a huge need.
Native
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I cant remember the last time a player who I liked fell to Miami and the Dolphins actually took him. This pick makes all the sense in the world. Have to invest in the offense if youre going to pay Tannehill. Nice job Hickey.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I kind of like the idea of trading a 6th or 7th to St Louis for Zack Stacy if thats possible. He is their 4th RB at this point, and wants out. Still very young. Nice big guy to spell Miller with, and give 8-10 carries per game. No brainer for a 6th rounder IMO.
