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***Official Minnesota Vikings Draft Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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BigJim®
Footballguy
Not getting pissy... just sarcastically pointing out that everything surrounding Williamson is based on the premise that he gets a complete pass for being in a bad offense. For him I'm sure it feels a bit like winning the lottery. I've never liked the idea of drafting a workout wonder with a high 1st rounder. It simply never, ever, ever works out.As Cartman would say "aw man don't get all pisthy." I was just kidding around with you a bit. I do mean just a bit though.
BigJim®
Footballguy
People mistake my sarcasm for anger a lot, that's the way it reads. I assure you my health is fine, I just don't like Williamson. Miraculously, that's been the case ever since falling asleep to his "highlight" video. Good stuff. I recommend it to insomniacs everywhere.I think BigJim might have high blood pressure, like myself. Be nice to him.As Cartman would say "aw man don't get all pisthy." I was just kidding around with you a bit. I do mean just a bit though.
jurb26
Footballguy
Well to say that he is getting a free pass is simply incorrect:http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...williamson.htmlNotice this portion:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/williamson_troyAnother fine linkBasically it doesn't seem like you are even willing to give Williamson a fair chance. So he didn't play in a pass heavy O in college, should that punish him heading into the NFL draft? I don't think so, I think we should evaluate his ability, but apperantly we disagree with that. Fair enough.
BigJim®
Footballguy
I would not say we disagree on that. Like I said, I saw his highlight reel and was completely unimpressed. I've seen a lot of dazzling WRs in my day and this guy looked pretty raw. Certainly not what I'd expect to see of the 2nd best WR in an NFL draft. I'd almost go so far as to say 75% of the existing NFL WRs could put together a more compelling highlight reel of their college career.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Yes, and special thanks to you and Big Jim!!
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Just for the record...I am hoping the Vikings go Mike Williams tomorrow. The guy is just amazing. He is one that just takes over and seems to be in a league of his own. And I haven't seen him play for over a year. Those type of players just don't come along that often, and if we can get him at #7 I think it would be a steal!
whole-show
Footballguy
Why would you want a TE with the #7 pick....
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Because he will be a lot better than Winslow!!Why would you want a TE with the #7 pick....
skol asylum
Footballguy
Anybody think it's possible the Vikes look at O-line with their 18th, especially considering Birk's lingering injury?
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Maybe if Brown is still there. I wouldn't doubt it if they look at Spencer or Incognito though, this Birk talk really scares me because I am one who thinks Withrow is worthless!Edited to add: I don't want them to look at Spencer or Incognito in the first round, just somewhere in the draft, but not at 18.
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RustyFA
Footballguy
Thanks BlueOnion.If given the choice I would skip over Williamson for about 5 other players. I think Mike Williams is the safe bet and I feel our team is close enough to go with the safe bet. Yesterday Kiper sid that Mike Williams ran a 4.56 40 yard dash. If true that is fast enough for me. However Williams will likely be gone. so I would go with the franchise RB before reaching for Williamson.I also thought we were reaching for a workout warrior in Kevin Williams. I have been wrong a lot.
RustyFA
Footballguy
As far as OL goes I think that David Baas would be a great pick in the early 2nd because he is great at both C and OG. At #18 I think Jamal Brown is a great pick. He is a true RT and dominating run blocker. Rosenthal is making OG money and is a little small so he could slide inside.
CanadianNFLJunkie
Footballguy
Okay a couple of things, (haven't finished reading pages 4 and on yet so foregive me if someone else has said it), first, Williamson supposedly has already passed Mike Williams. Williams is too big and slow to become a good WR in the pros. He's more of a TE who can't block. I think we don't go for Williams. As for who else might need a WR, BLUE ONION, Dallas is very interested in Williamson as they are of Shawne Merriman.My thoughts on the deep threat and all about these great hall of famer WRs who aren't known for their speed, what do teams almost always play late in the game, the so -called prevent defense. BUT you still need someone to stretch the defense and clear out for the crossing routes underneath. So in otherwords, Williamson would be the decoy by running a deep pattern and Burleson would run across from underneath. I think it's very much needed to prevent the 8 in the box defensive plan.As for what I've heard and saw and read, I want one WR in the first round. So if it's not Edwards or Williamson at 1.07, then I want Clayton at 1.18. Clayton supposedly is the most polished WR right now. He's NFL ready. He's supposed to be the best blocking WR in the group, of which I can see our belonged Vikings considering at 1.18. If we don't go WR at 1.07 then I'd like to see DJ go there or Shawne Merriman, or one of the other RBs of the big-3. And if we do go WR at 1.07, then I'd want the best DE/OLB who can rush the QB.Players I don't want to see us draft is Williams and Pollock. I truthfully can't say I've seen this guy play very much, something about him scares me.Two more hours to go!! 
Raskell5
Footballguy
I think everyone is forgetting about all the "Draft Day" B/S that happens. I really don't think that the Vikes are thinking about anyone else but Mike Williams. People keep forgetting that he was THE BEST WR in the country 2 years ago. Nobody can cover him. It's not like he was sitting on his ### last year, either. He was working with C. Carter in Florida. He's ready and he will be a star.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I caught an interview with Chris Carter on KFAN yesterday.He worked with Williams this last year and said that he's the right pick for the Vikes over Williamson. His overall point was that there's more to football than how fast you run. He really just sounded like he thought Williams would be a much better football player.Take that FWIW.
CanadianNFLJunkie
Footballguy
Well I heard from a pretty good source, (a buddy of mine from Minnesota) that it is going to be................Williamson for us at 1.07.I don't like Williams. He's too slow for a WR in the NFL.
I am SO tired of hearing this argument. I guess guys like Jerry Rice, Cris Carter and Tim Brown were too slow for the NFL? Or maybe Sam Mills was too short to play linebacker? Or maybe Tom Brady was too skinny and slow to amount to anything much? Guys waste SO much time looking at "measurables" this time of year based upon what happens in Indianapolis at the combine. If you want to talk "measurables" though......2 years of Division I football against quality opponents176 receptions2,579 yards30 TDs
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
How fast do you have to be when you're 6-5 240?
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I am SO tired of hearing this argument. I guess guys like Jerry Rice, Cris Carter and Tim Brown were too slow for the NFL? Or maybe Sam Mills was too short to play linebacker? Or maybe Tom Brady was too skinny and slow to amount to anything much? Guys waste SO much time looking at "measurables" this time of year based upon what happens in Indianapolis at the combine. If you want to talk "measurables" though......
2 years of Division I football against quality opponents
176 receptions
2,579 yards
30 TDs
The 4.6 speed could be a blessing in disguise because it may allow the Vikes to take him at 7. If he ran a 4.5 or better we would not be having this debate right now because Williams would be long gone.
If we do take Williamson over Williams than I will trust the judgement of Studwell and Brzezinski. I won't like it one bit....but none of us will really know who is "right" in our assertions for 2-3+ seasons anyway, so it's impossible to beat each other up over it. Leave all those 50+ moaning and wailing threads for the KFAN Rube Chat.....Best of luck Vikes fans, I hope your wishes come true. Please don't start 50 different threadsabout how Minn took WilliamSON over Williams though when this is all said and done.
BigJim®
Footballguy
What he said.Benson has a few issues but I think his stregths would have worked well with what the Vikes are going to be doing on offense without Moss. I'm lukewarm on Benson in Chicago however, competing with Jones (although I'd expect him to earn the lions share). I just don't like the rest of that offense even with the addition of Muhsin.
BlueOnion
Footballguy
:hornsick coming up...exciting stuff my fellow Viking fans!My preference (Chicago just picked)1) Cadillac2) Trade down3) Williamson4) Williams* Trade down a few spots to grab Williamson, extra pick and hopefully Erasmus at #18. However, I am not opposed to Merriman\\Derrick Johnson\\Pacman at the trade down with Clayton at #18...Not sure Clayton will be there at #18.
ick coming up...exciting stuff my fellow Viking fans!My preference (Chicago just picked)1) Cadillac2) Trade down3) Williamson4) Williams* Trade down a few spots to grab Williamson, extra pick and hopefully Erasmus at #18. However, I am not opposed to Merriman\\Derrick Johnson\\Pacman at the trade down with Clayton at #18...Not sure Clayton will be there at #18.
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