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That sounds about right...I wonder if they will try and trade into the mid to late first round to pick up a WR - I am a big Michael Floyd fan so I would like that, esp. with him being a home town guy, but I'm sure they would have to give up a first next year to do that and not sure they would.
Not enough cap money for Nicks, regardless of what they do with Kalil or Hutchinson. He'll be one of the 3 highest paid Gs in the league. That is per Dan Wiederer, the Vikes beat man for the MPLS Star Tribune.I don't understand the differences between Guard and tackle so forgive me for my ignorance.
No offensive lineman is more important than left tackle. Kalil looks like a franchise type guy and would hopefully give the Vikes a decade of not worrying about the QB's blindside. We take Kalil no matter what we do in free agency IMO. I would love to see the team get Nicks AND draft Kalil. Everyone talks about how a young QB is helped out by playmakers, but I think having a top 5 OLine would be even more helpful. If we could get Hutch to take a paycut and play one more year and get Nicks and Kalil our oline would have every chance at being a top 5 unit. But, we have a lot of areas of need and I don't think Nicks will be on the radar given his likely asking price.I don't understand the differences between Guard and tackle so forgive me for my ignorance.
I agree. Build from the trenches up. Any WR can look good with a QB who has time to throw. But, they MUST get a WR in free agency. Colston, Meacham, VJax, someone to anchor the corps.Then they need to use Rudolph!!! A lot of talk about a D-coordinator, but where is the creativity in the O?No offensive lineman is more important than left tackle. Kalil looks like a franchise type guy and would hopefully give the Vikes a decade of not worrying about the QB's blindside. We take Kalil no matter what we do in free agency IMO. I would love to see the team get Nicks AND draft Kalil. Everyone talks about how a young QB is helped out by playmakers, but I think having a top 5 OLine would be even more helpful. If we could get Hutch to take a paycut and play one more year and get Nicks and Kalil our oline would have every chance at being a top 5 unit. But, we have a lot of areas of need and I don't think Nicks will be on the radar given his likely asking price.I don't understand the differences between Guard and tackle so forgive me for my ignorance.
I sure hope they go after Jackson..
I think Winfield has another year or two at CB left in him. But agree in the long term he'll switch to SS at some point. My hope is in FA they get a WR, an GOOD fA Offensive lineman, and then look for a CB or two. After they make a move in FA they can then re-evaluate where they stand and adjust the Draft board accordingly. 
Love Winfield, but he will be 35 at the start of the season. I think he should make the move now, and could have another year or two in the NFL.I sure hope they go after Jackson..
My hope is in FA they get a WR, an GOOD fA Offensive lineman, and then look for a CB or two. After they make a move in FA they can then re-evaluate where they stand and adjust the Draft board accordingly.
I'm down with that.But would you prefer Finnegan (arguably the best FA CB) or a top tier FA WR like VJax?I would probably say Finnegan, but that's a close argument.
I don't much about him besides his play on the field. I got the impression that he was a mouth piece and wouldn't be a good locker room guy.
I would be in favor of a better WR than v Jackson. He is 29 years old and has been good but not great with a good qb. I think the money he will get will be beyond his worth. I honestly think he will be a fa bust. Finnegan is a really good locker room guy and an enforcer on the field. We could use the attitude. Carr is the younger and perhaps better option but will command more money than the vikes can muster.There are several good options. I just hope they get one really good player that we can build with. Sanu or jefferies could be a good option in the 2nd. Marvin mcnutt in the 4th would be a coup. He will be a steal
I am a little biased as an OU homer, but Broyles in the 4th would be a bigger steal than McNutt. Broyles probably won't do a lot this year because of the injury, but long term I like his chances a lot better.
Typical Vikes. Even when they win, they lose.And the whole bounty thing has really effectively torn the scab off of the 2009 NFCCG wound...I see Arctic Edge is trying to fly the banner in another thread, good for him, but I'd prefer to just forget the whole thing. Although now the Saints will now forever be in my HATE column, right beside the Packers and Cowboys.'encaitar said:
Not a surprising move. This frees up a lot of cap space so we may see a couple FA moves, but I don't think there will be anything major. My guess it is a lock that they take Kalil at #3 if they can't trade out of it, which I doubt they will be able to do.
I've changed my mind quite a bit on the draft. I think the team needs to go all offense. I know the defense sucked last year, but they'll be better just by being healthy. We started what, our 5th CB and a guy we signed off the street by the end of the year? If the team really thinks Ponder is the guy, then they need to get him all the pieces they can find. Solidify the line, that should be priority No. 1. Then, find him some playmakers. If a defensive guy that is high on the draft board falls, then yeah scoop him up. However, I think they really need to focus on putting the pieces in place to give Ponder every chance to succeed.
I don't think Walters has ever been right, but it is something to think about...they should get more than a 2nd round pick to drop to #6 though...maybe both of the 2nd round picks of the Rams or a future first.
And miss out on the best LT prospect of the past 5 years? Doesn't seem like a wise move unless they can snag one of those extra 1st rounders the Rams have in future years, and even then I'm not so sure.
Didn't do the Dolphins and Browns all that much good to get Jake Long and Joe Thomas.
I still think Kalil is the way to go unless they get great value for a trade down. The team is more than one player away from being a good team.However, the Dolphins and Browns didn't have a high first round pick invested at QB that they needed to protect (of course this also brings up the discussion of whether or not you think Ponder is a top level QB - at least potentially).Didn't do the Dolphins and Browns all that much good to get Jake Long and Joe Thomas.
You won't be saying that if CLE ever gets some real skill position players. Peyton freakin Hillis ran wild behind that O-line. And Reggie freakin Bush just had a career year. It ain't sexy, but it is important.Didn't do the Dolphins and Browns all that much good to get Jake Long and Joe Thomas.
Brandon Carr or William Middleton are who they should look atWhat of this scenario:
Uh huh. And what were the records of their respective teams?You won't be saying that if CLE ever gets some real skill position players. Peyton freakin Hillis ran wild behind that O-line. And Reggie freakin Bush just had a career year. It ain't sexy, but it is important.Didn't do the Dolphins and Browns all that much good to get Jake Long and Joe Thomas.
I know what you're saying, but you can't blame the record of the team on the LT.Uh huh. And what were the records of their respective teams?You won't be saying that if CLE ever gets some real skill position players. Peyton freakin Hillis ran wild behind that O-line. And Reggie freakin Bush just had a career year. It ain't sexy, but it is important.Didn't do the Dolphins and Browns all that much good to get Jake Long and Joe Thomas.
The 2nd rounder isn't enough ammo to move up 4 spots at the top of the 1st. 2 2nd rounders maybe, but even then, isn't it a pretty big step down from Kahlil to Reiff? I mean I haven't scouted them personally, but from what I've heard Kahlil is as good as Joe Thomas, even better than Jake Long.
No, and I'm not. But I don't think I could name more than two starting left tackles for this year's playoff participants.
Maybe not, but you also can't name one of those teams that didn't have a good OLine (maybe Pittsburgh, but they got bounced by Denver, the worst team in the playoffs). You might not need a great LT, but you do need a good OLine, and the quickest way to build one of those is drafting a stud LT in the 1st round.
Where's the proof of that?
I'm not going to spend a bunch of time quantifying/ researching it, so let's just call it my opinion.
I agree completely! The 2nd round has been brutal to us and other rounds past that havent been great either. The drafting has got to get better which is why I wasnt exactly thrilled with Spielman getting the GM spot. I am hopeful that they make a splash tomorrow and the next couple days in free agency and then have a very solid draft where they come away with at least 2 pro bowl players and some other solid starters.
