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It sure is. Like when they traded down a couple picks in 2010 thinking they'd still be able to get Patrick Robinson with that 2nd rounder they got from Detroit only to get sniped by the Saints thus being forced to take Cook as a consolation prize.
Apparently the NFL does.
Yeah, 3 games. Doesnt mean he will be poison for the team.
And Bucs fans commit suicide en masse.My bold (stupid) prediction for Thursday night, Vikes trade #3 to TB for #5 and #36. The Bucs spent some bigduring free agency and want to get their guy in Claiborne or Richardson instead of letting Cleveland decide which one they get. Viking fans do cartwheels...
Try to trade down a little further and hope to snag the LB from Boston College. Maybe he could be the MLB this team needs, being an asset in the middle zone of the "defensive system". A great MLB goes a long way toward making a great defense these days IMO.As long as Kalil still falls to us at 5. If TB grabs Claiborne and Cleveland takes Kalil, then what? Draft Richardson and run the ball 650 times next year?My bold (stupid) prediction for Thursday night, Vikes trade #3 to TB for #5 and #36. The Bucs spent some big
Minnesota please take Blackmon.I want no part of Blackmon going to Cleveland at #4.
Yeah, I hadn't thought of Kuechly. He could make a great MLB in this system. But I suppose that if they went to 5 and couldn't get Kalil or Claiborne they would take Blackmon and St Louis jumps for joy as Richardson drops to them.'jestertj said:Try to trade down a little further and hope to snag the LB from Boston College. Maybe he could be the MLB this team needs, being an asset in the middle zone of the "defensive system". A great MLB goes a long way toward making a great defense these days IMO.'Herb said:As long as Kalil still falls to us at 5. If TB grabs Claiborne and Cleveland takes Kalil, then what? Draft Richardson and run the ball 650 times next year?'jestertj said:My bold (stupid) prediction for Thursday night, Vikes trade #3 to TB for #5 and #36. The Bucs spent some big
The plot thickens. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/trent-richardson-is-no-1-player-on-jets-draft-board/'Donnybrook said:
They got rid of it.
Did you hear about them adding racino as the funding method to the vikings senate bill? Pretty much kills the bill if it goes to the floor like that. 
Yeah, oh well at least it sounds like Tiger time might be replaced with wolf time. I liked Wexler's response when Dan tried to dig deeper into the concussion testing: "I'm not going to be able to tell you what we hit them with, or how hard."They got rid of it.
KFAN later reported that racino thing was fixed by a different comittee about 12 minutes after it happened. Too much going on today for KFAN to adequately report.Did you hear about them adding racino as the funding method to the vikings senate bill? Pretty much kills the bill if it goes to the floor like that.
The testing this guy is talking about some crazy stuff. GPS tracking chips in high school players? Electrocuting players to see how well they hang on to the ball? Even Barreiro ends up asking the guy if his tests are torture. Concussion test? This Wexler guy is nuts.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8289d0f6/article/bills-looking-to-make-move-up-for-matt-kalilSo if we traded down to 10 we would be getting a 2nd round pick and likely something else. At 10 the Vikes could consider Kuechly, Floyd,Kirpatrick, Gilmore, Cox or Poe.
Everything I'm reading today is pointing to that being a
I'm now at 60/40 they select Claiborne.. and fully expect some :headexplode: around Minnesota as most seem to believe Kali is the only true pick at #3.It goes back to what I posted the other day:
Me too. But I think it's more likely they end up at #5.And if they take Claiborne at #3 and the tackles start flying off the board, I expect they'll trade back up into the late first to nab one of them. I'm hoping for Bobby Massie Mike Adams in that scenario.rather have kalil if they stay put
If that happened, 3 and 4 would be Richardson and Claiborne.
I no longer think so. Superstar said this AM the pick is Kalil, and he's usually right on these given his connections. I seem to recall he predicted Kevin Williams and Troy Williamson in prior years. He also said there actually are no trade discussions at present at Winter Park (despite Spielman's comments that there are). Seems pretty transparent they've been encouraging Claiborne misinformation in hopes of getting TB desparate for a trade up to #3, where they would definitely still get Kalil at #5. I don't think that will happen, and they'll go with the guy they wanted all along.
At this point, I'm actually okay with either.
In which case I think the Browns take Claiborne and we still get Kalil. Of course the Bucs may have bought the hype and are moving up for Claiborne, not Richardson. Then we still get our choice as suggested above ...
We've covered that already and you're right. But I would expect that they would adapt the system to the player.
Agreed. Which is why I still think it is Kalil .... but the smoke may have been enough for the Bucs to move up for Claiborne. Their schedule isn't exactly friendly to pass defenses either (Ryan, Newton, Brees)
Perhaps we'll see. I'd be surprised if Frazier moves away from Tampa 2 under any circumstances (but granted Frazier may not even be here if the Vikes continue to struggle).
Well, it might be a risk worth taking, but as a person who wants Kalil I'd be a bit worried the Bucs actually move up to swipe Richardson, and then Cleveland does something unexpected like trading out of #4 to a team like Buffalo who wants to swoop in for Kalil. Still, I think many would be happy to pick up an extra 2nd and walk away with Claiborne. I'd be disappointed since I see LT as a critical need for Ponder/AP to perform. I'd be skeptical that their use of the extra 2nd made losing Kalil worth it if we see Ponder/AP getting thrashed in 2012. Big picture I don't know how you justify reaching for Ponder in 2011 only to ruin him behind a turnstile OL.
Bump
If they pick Claiborne and scrap the cover 2 I would be very very happy.
^ This. After years of watching Rodgers, Cutler, and now Stafford SHRED the cover-2, getting a couple press corners who can handle man-to-man coverage and subsequently sticking a fork in the cover-2 would probably be better than anything else that could happen for this team over the next 48-72 hours. I'm so sick of watching a "bend, but don't break" defense. About the only things I want to see "bend or break" are the opposing teams' QBs or WRs as they dare to come over the middle...as they are getting their sinuses cleared out via our DEs, LBs, and safeties. :horns:
Because if they want Kalil, and if TB wants Claiborne, they can trick TB into swapping 3/5 where they can still get the guy they really want (since there is little or no risk of Cleveland taking Kalil when they have Thomas at LT). Doesn't seem that mysterious IMHO and will be proven if they take Kalil.
I hope this is actually true and they do take Kalil. However we're talking about Spielman and I doubt he takes Kalil. If I'm wrong I'll say so after the pick... gladly!
It's really a matter of thinking that TB wants either Claiborne or Richardson. If that's the case and TB thinks that the Vikes are going to take Claiborne, and with Cleveland locked into Richardson, then TB may feel pressured to trade up to get one of the two guys they covet. I'm 80% confident the Claiborne talk is smoke and that they're locked into Kalil if they stay at 3.
It's not real.
