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GDogg said:
GDogg said:
SHIZNITTTT said:
Looking for some Sugar Bowl dividends. Go get 'em, Bob!
Joe Mixon!
I think he ends up at UCLA, assuming they keep recruiting him and don't focus on Starks.I think Bryce Dixon ends up at UCLA, too.
Do your thoughts on this change now that Starks has committed to UCLA?
Somewhat. It sounds like the UCLA staff is a little put off by the Mixons and how they handled the last month (particularly the last 24 hours) of his recruitment.

Starks is an excellent consolation prize, but nobody seems to know for sure if he will be admitted to UCLA (he got kicked out of Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas for some off the field incident). If he can't be admitted, then UCLA may continue to push for Mixon, but right now, it doesn't sound like it.

There are a lot of west coast analysts that are extremely skeptical of Mixon ending up at Oklahoma, for what it's worth. It has nothing to do with the Oklahoma. They just don't see him leaving California. A couple are calling him to flip to Cal.
There's plenty of skepticism on the OU side as well. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips, I'm cautiously optimistic for now.
 
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Today's the last day of dead period right? Interested to see the list of places Peppers has lined up between now and signing day.
Big weekend coming up for USC with a few players who are undecided or they are hoping to flip visiting Columbia. Just picked up a 4* DB commit Monday night which is really needed.

 
Tennessee's ranking is amplified a bit due to having so many commitments (33). That said, the team has been so void of talent and depth that 33 "pretty good" players is probably preferable to 22 "really good" players. The team needs to consistently average before it can be consistently great.

 
Tennessee's ranking is amplified a bit due to having so many commitments (33). That said, the team has been so void of talent and depth that 33 "pretty good" players is probably preferable to 22 "really good" players. The team needs to consistently average before it can be consistently great.
Rankings are pretty meaningless really....

 
Tennessee's ranking is amplified a bit due to having so many commitments (33). That said, the team has been so void of talent and depth that 33 "pretty good" players is probably preferable to 22 "really good" players. The team needs to consistently average before it can be consistently great.
Rankings are pretty meaningless really....
When you haven't made a bowl game in 3 years they are very meaningful.

 
I thought the SEC set a limit of 28 for class size no?
Back counters allow to exceed the limit...which is 25. 8 is a lot of back counters.

I think Alabama will be taking 26 or 27 this period.
:loco: I got a very different impression from those parroting this new "rule" of theirs. Thanks for the info. On the surface it's a pretty good approach, but the devil's in the details it appears.

 
I thought the SEC set a limit of 28 for class size no?
Back counters allow to exceed the limit...which is 25. 8 is a lot of back counters.

I think Alabama will be taking 26 or 27 this period.
:loco: I got a very different impression from those parroting this new "rule" of theirs. Thanks for the info. On the surface it's a pretty good approach, but the devil's in the details it appears.
I'm not sure it's any less of a limit than others. You can sign more than 25 in the B1G. The big numbers like 33 are outliers I think...more a sign of a bad roster for UT. The key limit is still the 85 total limit. If you have room for 33, your roster is in a lot of transition.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
It's extremely strange that all the conferences have different standards. They should put everyone on an even playing field.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
It's extremely strange that all the conferences have different standards. They should put everyone on an even playing field.
The NCAA does with the 85 total limit, but that's all they police. The conferences then manage the other details.

 
Tennessee's ranking is amplified a bit due to having so many commitments (33). That said, the team has been so void of talent and depth that 33 "pretty good" players is probably preferable to 22 "really good" players. The team needs to consistently average before it can be consistently great.
Rankings are pretty meaningless really....
When you haven't made a bowl game in 3 years they are very meaningful.
Well, as you said, it is quanity over quality for the Vols. Just trying to get talented bodies on the roster and hope the coaches can develop them.

 
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Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
It's extremely strange that all the conferences have different standards. They should put everyone on an even playing field.
The NCAA does with the 85 total limit, but that's all they police. The conferences then manage the other details.
Actually...the NCAA did also adopt a yearly rule...which mirrors the SECs. 25 limit 'soft cap', allowing for more with back counters.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
I haven't a clue honestly. I just know you can't have more than 85 on your roster and I know how Michigan approaches their recruiting. This only came into my mind when I saw the latest rankings, then saw Abraham's comment about 33. This is a small class for Michigan (probably going to have under 20). Just had an "ah ha" moment with respects to the rankings. You'd think they would come up with a way to account for the number of players in the class as well.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
I haven't a clue honestly. I just know you can't have more than 85 on your roster and I know how Michigan approaches their recruiting. This only came into my mind when I saw the latest rankings, then saw Abraham's comment about 33. This is a small class for Michigan (probably going to have under 20). Just had an "ah ha" moment with respects to the rankings. You'd think they would come up with a way to account for the number of players in the class as well.
They do to some degree...there are only X numer of players counted in the rankings...maybe top 25? Or top 23? Something like that. At least with Rivals and 247.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
I haven't a clue honestly. I just know you can't have more than 85 on your roster and I know how Michigan approaches their recruiting. This only came into my mind when I saw the latest rankings, then saw Abraham's comment about 33. This is a small class for Michigan (probably going to have under 20). Just had an "ah ha" moment with respects to the rankings. You'd think they would come up with a way to account for the number of players in the class as well.
They do to some degree...there are only X numer of players counted in the rankings...maybe top 25? Or top 23? Something like that. At least with Rivals and 247.
I like that 247 will show you the "average" grade. Helps understand the quality they believe you're getting with each player.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
It's extremely strange that all the conferences have different standards. They should put everyone on an even playing field.
The NCAA does with the 85 total limit, but that's all they police. The conferences then manage the other details.
No, the other cap is 25 per year. But, that has nothing to do with national letters of intent. You can sign 60 players if you want. But, only 25 can enroll in the fall.

 
Tennessee's ranking is amplified a bit due to having so many commitments (33). That said, the team has been so void of talent and depth that 33 "pretty good" players is probably preferable to 22 "really good" players. The team needs to consistently average before it can be consistently great.
Rankings are pretty meaningless really....
When you haven't made a bowl game in 3 years they are very meaningful.
Well, as you said, it is quanity over quality for the Vols. Just trying to get talented bodies on the roster and hope the coaches can develop them.
They've got both. Scout has them at #2 in the overall rankings, and #16 in stars per recruit average. Scout only counts the top 25 recruits in a class.

In 247's composite, they are #6 and are #11 in average per recruit. They are getting it done.

And, rankings are quite meaningful if you want to win.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
I haven't a clue honestly. I just know you can't have more than 85 on your roster and I know how Michigan approaches their recruiting. This only came into my mind when I saw the latest rankings, then saw Abraham's comment about 33. This is a small class for Michigan (probably going to have under 20). Just had an "ah ha" moment with respects to the rankings. You'd think they would come up with a way to account for the number of players in the class as well.
They do to some degree...there are only X numer of players counted in the rankings...maybe top 25? Or top 23? Something like that. At least with Rivals and 247.
I like that 247 will show you the "average" grade. Helps understand the quality they believe you're getting with each player.
Scout's count only the top 25 (or less, obviously, if you only sign 24 or fewer players). You can sort their rankings by any of the headings at the top of their ranking page, including average star per recruit.

 
How is Florida doing it? 4-8 dumpster fire season including a loss to 1AA Georgia Southern, somehow Muschamp keeps his job, recruits fleeing (Cook, Lane, etc), but in the last week they have flipped 3 4 or 5* players?

 
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How is Florida doing it? 8-4 dumpster fire season including a loss to 1AA Georgia Southern, somehow Muschamp keeps his job, recruits fleeing (Cook, Lane, etc), but in the last week they have flipped 3 4 or 5* players?
:moneybag:
I guess there was something to Powell's tweet of "Gotta feed the fam. Been struggling for too long"
:link:
Dammit! I just looked it up to get that quote right. Hold on I'll go find it again.

 
How is Florida doing it? 8-4 dumpster fire season including a loss to 1AA Georgia Southern, somehow Muschamp keeps his job, recruits fleeing (Cook, Lane, etc), but in the last week they have flipped 3 4 or 5* players?
Why do you list losses before wins? Are you Finnish?

 
Clifton Garrett to LSU. :thumbup:

Even after losing Hootie and Cam Robinson to AL, this could be an unreal year for LSU recruiting.
I actually expected D'haquille Williams the #1 JUCO player to go back with LSU but he signed with Auburn this morning it appears. He was originally an LSU commit, flipped to Auburn, then seemed to be waivering. I was thinking with Beckham and Landry leaving and with Auburn being more of a run offense he might go with LSU. If he's as good as advertised it could help AU's offense even more. The X receiver slot is all they've really gotten any production out of. Adding a 2nd wideout that can produce would open things up even more.
He was all LSU, but unfortunately, through no fault of his own, he got on the wrong side of some pretty bad guys. He thinks his life might be in danger if he stays in Baton Rouge. He is one hell of a player though. I wish him the best regardless of his choice.

That being said, LA has some ridiculous receivers this year. We should be OK either way.
Yup. Can't wait for Malachi Dupre and his friends, Mattrell McGraw and Kenny Young, to suit up for the Bruins next year.
I guess anything is possible. Smart of them to go for the package, but I'm more worried about Bama getting Dupre than UCLA. Probably more worried about FSU than UCLA too.
I have no inside info one way or the other to know where he's leaning, but the Scout.com guys think UCLA is in a pretty good spot along with LSU.

It's interesting that he's taken three unofficial visits to UCLA and is taking an official visit to UCLA with McGraw and Young the last weekend prior to Signing Day (January 31).
Some LSU people are getting more and more concerned about Kenny Young and Dupre going to Hollywood. They've kind of split up during recent visits to LSU, Bama and others, but they will head to UCLA together at the end of the month. I am now more worried about the Bruins than FSU and Bama. Feels like it's LSU and UCLA now.

 
Actually just looked it up...learn something new every year talking about this...the difference is the B1G has a 4 year limit it appears of 88? Not 100% sure. But if so they could sign more than 25, but then have to scale back in a future year.
It's extremely strange that all the conferences have different standards. They should put everyone on an even playing field.
The NCAA does with the 85 total limit, but that's all they police. The conferences then manage the other details.
No, the other cap is 25 per year. But, that has nothing to do with national letters of intent. You can sign 60 players if you want. But, only 25 can enroll in the fall.
I corrected it...the NCAA replicated the SEC rules...so 25 plus back-counters.

 
How is Florida doing it? 8-4 dumpster fire season including a loss to 1AA Georgia Southern, somehow Muschamp keeps his job, recruits fleeing (Cook, Lane, etc), but in the last week they have flipped 3 4 or 5* players?
:moneybag:
Not what you meant I know...but it is the programs money. Which is why I'd be worried about the future of my program if I'm a Tennessee fan. Florida and UGA are loaded programs who will recruit regardless of record...facilities, location, recruiting base, etc. Tennessee won't get back there, at least anytime soon. So now they need to worry about USCe and Mizzou for second tier in the East...which is a battle they are currently losing also.

 
Looking for some Sugar Bowl dividends. Go get 'em, Bob!
Joe Mixon!
I think he ends up at UCLA, assuming they keep recruiting him and don't focus on Starks.I think Bryce Dixon ends up at UCLA, too.
Do your thoughts on this change now that Starks has committed to UCLA?
Somewhat. It sounds like the UCLA staff is a little put off by the Mixons and how they handled the last month (particularly the last 24 hours) of his recruitment.

Starks is an excellent consolation prize, but nobody seems to know for sure if he will be admitted to UCLA (he got kicked out of Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas for some off the field incident). If he can't be admitted, then UCLA may continue to push for Mixon, but right now, it doesn't sound like it.

There are a lot of west coast analysts that are extremely skeptical of Mixon ending up at Oklahoma, for what it's worth. It has nothing to do with the Oklahoma. They just don't see him leaving California. A couple are calling him to flip to Cal.
There's plenty of skepticism on the OU side as well. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips, I'm cautiously optimistic for now.
No way OU loses Mixon.....he just beat down the rumors of a UCLA visit on twitter

 
Looking for some Sugar Bowl dividends. Go get 'em, Bob!
Joe Mixon!
I think he ends up at UCLA, assuming they keep recruiting him and don't focus on Starks.I think Bryce Dixon ends up at UCLA, too.
Do your thoughts on this change now that Starks has committed to UCLA?
Somewhat. It sounds like the UCLA staff is a little put off by the Mixons and how they handled the last month (particularly the last 24 hours) of his recruitment.

Starks is an excellent consolation prize, but nobody seems to know for sure if he will be admitted to UCLA (he got kicked out of Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas for some off the field incident). If he can't be admitted, then UCLA may continue to push for Mixon, but right now, it doesn't sound like it.

There are a lot of west coast analysts that are extremely skeptical of Mixon ending up at Oklahoma, for what it's worth. It has nothing to do with the Oklahoma. They just don't see him leaving California. A couple are calling him to flip to Cal.
There's plenty of skepticism on the OU side as well. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips, I'm cautiously optimistic for now.
No way OU loses Mixon.....he just beat down the rumors of a UCLA visit on twitter
He's been pretty vocal since the AA game so hopefully it sticks. Definitely looking that way.

 
Looking for some Sugar Bowl dividends. Go get 'em, Bob!
Joe Mixon!
I think he ends up at UCLA, assuming they keep recruiting him and don't focus on Starks.I think Bryce Dixon ends up at UCLA, too.
Do your thoughts on this change now that Starks has committed to UCLA?
Somewhat. It sounds like the UCLA staff is a little put off by the Mixons and how they handled the last month (particularly the last 24 hours) of his recruitment.

Starks is an excellent consolation prize, but nobody seems to know for sure if he will be admitted to UCLA (he got kicked out of Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas for some off the field incident). If he can't be admitted, then UCLA may continue to push for Mixon, but right now, it doesn't sound like it.

There are a lot of west coast analysts that are extremely skeptical of Mixon ending up at Oklahoma, for what it's worth. It has nothing to do with the Oklahoma. They just don't see him leaving California. A couple are calling him to flip to Cal.
There's plenty of skepticism on the OU side as well. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips, I'm cautiously optimistic for now.
No way OU loses Mixon.....he just beat down the rumors of a UCLA visit on twitter
He's been pretty vocal since the AA game so hopefully it sticks. Definitely looking that way.
UCLA will be visiting him today (RB coach, Kennedy Polamalu). UCLA does not feel great about him anymore. It looks like he'll stick with Oklahoma.

 
Clifton Garrett to LSU. :thumbup:

Even after losing Hootie and Cam Robinson to AL, this could be an unreal year for LSU recruiting.
I actually expected D'haquille Williams the #1 JUCO player to go back with LSU but he signed with Auburn this morning it appears. He was originally an LSU commit, flipped to Auburn, then seemed to be waivering. I was thinking with Beckham and Landry leaving and with Auburn being more of a run offense he might go with LSU. If he's as good as advertised it could help AU's offense even more. The X receiver slot is all they've really gotten any production out of. Adding a 2nd wideout that can produce would open things up even more.
He was all LSU, but unfortunately, through no fault of his own, he got on the wrong side of some pretty bad guys. He thinks his life might be in danger if he stays in Baton Rouge. He is one hell of a player though. I wish him the best regardless of his choice.

That being said, LA has some ridiculous receivers this year. We should be OK either way.
Yup. Can't wait for Malachi Dupre and his friends, Mattrell McGraw and Kenny Young, to suit up for the Bruins next year.
I guess anything is possible. Smart of them to go for the package, but I'm more worried about Bama getting Dupre than UCLA. Probably more worried about FSU than UCLA too.
I have no inside info one way or the other to know where he's leaning, but the Scout.com guys think UCLA is in a pretty good spot along with LSU.

It's interesting that he's taken three unofficial visits to UCLA and is taking an official visit to UCLA with McGraw and Young the last weekend prior to Signing Day (January 31).
Some LSU people are getting more and more concerned about Kenny Young and Dupre going to Hollywood. They've kind of split up during recent visits to LSU, Bama and others, but they will head to UCLA together at the end of the month. I am now more worried about the Bruins than FSU and Bama. Feels like it's LSU and UCLA now.
Davon Godchaux is tentatively scheduled to visit at the end of the month with them, too. Rashaan Evans may also be making an unofficial that same weekend.

I think they all clearly like UCLA and UCLA probably has a decent chance. It's key for them that their officials to UCLA end a mere 3 days before signing day. But...it's tough for anyone to move 2000 miles from home, let alone teenagers. And, let's face it, LSU has been just a tad bit more successful at the game of football during these guys' viewing lifetime. Dupre supposedly has family that lives in L.A., which would be helpful for UCLA.

I wouldn't blame them one bit if they all decide to go to LSU. I love Louisiana myself, and if it were home, I'd have a tough time leaving. They all seem like good kids and have done their due diligence on each of the schools. It says a lot that they paid their way to go to UCLA multiple times.

I hope they pick UCLA, but if not, I wish them the best. LSU has a great atmosphere and a proven track record in football. I've got a lot of friends that went to LSU and they loved it. They've got great options.

 
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Clifton Garrett to LSU. :thumbup:

Even after losing Hootie and Cam Robinson to AL, this could be an unreal year for LSU recruiting.
I actually expected D'haquille Williams the #1 JUCO player to go back with LSU but he signed with Auburn this morning it appears. He was originally an LSU commit, flipped to Auburn, then seemed to be waivering. I was thinking with Beckham and Landry leaving and with Auburn being more of a run offense he might go with LSU. If he's as good as advertised it could help AU's offense even more. The X receiver slot is all they've really gotten any production out of. Adding a 2nd wideout that can produce would open things up even more.
He was all LSU, but unfortunately, through no fault of his own, he got on the wrong side of some pretty bad guys. He thinks his life might be in danger if he stays in Baton Rouge. He is one hell of a player though. I wish him the best regardless of his choice.

That being said, LA has some ridiculous receivers this year. We should be OK either way.
Yup. Can't wait for Malachi Dupre and his friends, Mattrell McGraw and Kenny Young, to suit up for the Bruins next year.
I guess anything is possible. Smart of them to go for the package, but I'm more worried about Bama getting Dupre than UCLA. Probably more worried about FSU than UCLA too.
I have no inside info one way or the other to know where he's leaning, but the Scout.com guys think UCLA is in a pretty good spot along with LSU.

It's interesting that he's taken three unofficial visits to UCLA and is taking an official visit to UCLA with McGraw and Young the last weekend prior to Signing Day (January 31).
Some LSU people are getting more and more concerned about Kenny Young and Dupre going to Hollywood. They've kind of split up during recent visits to LSU, Bama and others, but they will head to UCLA together at the end of the month. I am now more worried about the Bruins than FSU and Bama. Feels like it's LSU and UCLA now.
Davon Godchaux is tentatively scheduled to visit at the end of the month with them, too. Rashaan Evans may also be making an unofficial that same weekend.

I think they all clearly like UCLA and UCLA probably has a decent chance. It's key for them that their officials to UCLA end a mere 3 days before signing day. But...it's tough for anyone to move 2000 miles from home, let alone teenagers. And, let's face it, LSU has been just a tad bit more successful at the game of football during these guys' viewing lifetime. Dupre supposedly has family that lives in L.A., which would be helpful for UCLA.

I wouldn't blame them one bit if they all decide to go to LSU. I love Louisiana myself, and if it were home, I'd have a tough time leaving. They all seem like good kids and have done their due diligence on each of the schools. It says a lot that they paid their way to go to UCLA multiple times.

I hope they pick UCLA, but if not, I wish them the best. LSU has a great atmosphere and a proven track record in football. I've got a lot of friends that went to LSU and they loved it. They've got great options.
:thumbup:

 
Looks like Michigan's shifted focus to next year already...a blitzkrieg of offers going out recently. Happy to see Keisean Lucier-South offered, finally...not sure what took so long. Seems to be well received too.

 
Looks like Michigan's shifted focus to next year already...a blitzkrieg of offers going out recently. Happy to see Keisean Lucier-South offered, finally...not sure what took so long. Seems to be well received too.
I think Jayru Campbell will be back on the block soon. Better fit for OSU though, IMO

 
Looks like Michigan's shifted focus to next year already...a blitzkrieg of offers going out recently. Happy to see Keisean Lucier-South offered, finally...not sure what took so long. Seems to be well received too.
I think Jayru Campbell will be back on the block soon. Better fit for OSU though, IMO
I think Michigan offered him at one point but I don't think either part was seriously interested...hope it stays that way.

 
Looks like Michigan's shifted focus to next year already...a blitzkrieg of offers going out recently. Happy to see Keisean Lucier-South offered, finally...not sure what took so long. Seems to be well received too.
This is a big difference you see between the great recruiters and the good ones. Some coaches know how to balance now and the future...some focus on now until they can shift their focus to the future. Sometimes those who don't plan ahead as well can pull it out late...but not consistently.

 
Looks like Michigan's shifted focus to next year already...a blitzkrieg of offers going out recently. Happy to see Keisean Lucier-South offered, finally...not sure what took so long. Seems to be well received too.
This is a big difference you see between the great recruiters and the good ones. Some coaches know how to balance now and the future...some focus on now until they can shift their focus to the future. Sometimes those who don't plan ahead as well can pull it out late...but not consistently.
Even since the start of 2014 recruiting Michigan has seemed focused more on 2015. A lot of the talk has been about 2015 like 2014 was an afterthought. It didn't make sense to me at the time, but now I sorta see where they're going and what they're trying to do. But I still wonder if any recruits in 2014 were lost because of the approach. It appears that they'll be happy to carry over a couple scholarships to next year and not worry about filling them this year.
 
It will be interesting to see if the larger programs back off of recruiting Jayru now. My guess is several schools may say they are not interested in him, but there will definitely be a school willing to take a chance despite character concerns. IMO, the bigger schools should pass & let this turd go to lower tier program.

 
It will be interesting to see if the larger programs back off of recruiting Jayru now. My guess is several schools may say they are not interested in him, but there will definitely be a school willing to take a chance despite character concerns. IMO, the bigger schools should pass & let this turd go to lower tier program.
:goodposting:

Plus, I had a chance to watch a couple of his games this year, and I don't think he's all that. Talent level better suited to a small-mid sized school than a B1G.

ETA: With Cook (Jr), Terry (RSFr) and O'Connor (So) in the mix, I don't think MSU needs Jayru.

 
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It will be interesting to see if the larger programs back off of recruiting Jayru now. My guess is several schools may say they are not interested in him, but there will definitely be a school willing to take a chance despite character concerns. IMO, the bigger schools should pass & let this turd go to lower tier program.
As of today, he's committed to MSU...they haven't pulled their offer.

 

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