***Official National Signing Day thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Like Notre Dame does every year you mean? When was the last time they won a title? Baylor would have been in the playoffs this past year without ever having had a top ten class. Sparty was in, Stanford close with the same story. i can offer many more examples, not sure why you are so opposed to my thought.

 

[Capella]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Like Notre Dame does every year you mean? When was the last time they won a title? Baylor would have been in the playoffs this past year without ever having had a top ten class. Sparty was in, Stanford close with the same story. i can offer many more examples, not sure why you are so opposed to my thought.

Making the playoffs < > winning a national title. If you want to say you can get into the tourney without a top-10 class, then sure I would agree. Of course, Sparty got in and got immediately ripped to shreds like a puppy facing a pit bull.

Also, I know you know stats and just because you can provide outliers doesn't make the foundation false. Lots of schools in the top-10 of recruiting have failed on the field:All of the schools who have won a national title have excelled at recruiting to include multiple top-10 classes.

Both can be true at the same time.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Hackett (former Michigan AD) is suggesting Gary was offered "incentives" during recruiting. He had officials to Ole Miss, USC, Auburn, Clemson....was down to Michigan and Clemson.

Auburn offered him a free fleece throw maybe?

 

[The Commish]

The conference max #s seem to be taking hold now, after a few years.

There were only 3 schools in the top 25 ranked classes who signed over 25...Michigan, UCLA, and Stanford.

Compare that to '13...9 of the top 10 signed over 25.

I thought the B1G had a max of 28. I don't know how you guys keep track of your own conferences much less the others too

 

[gump]

247 ranks Team Talent yearly, which is a total ranking of the 85 man roster based on their recruiting ranks coming in:

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite

There are outliers like MSU at #23 and Baylor at #31 (and rising after this year).

But the top 10 schools MOSTLY consistently succeed at a high level.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Like Notre Dame does every year you mean? When was the last time they won a title? Baylor would have been in the playoffs this past year without ever having had a top ten class. Sparty was in, Stanford close with the same story. i can offer many more examples, not sure why you are so opposed to my thought.

Making the playoffs < > winning a national title. If you want to say you can get into the tourney without a top-10 class, then sure I would agree. Of course, Sparty got in and got immediately ripped to shreds like a puppy facing a pit bull. Also, I know you know stats and just because you can provide outliers doesn't make the foundation false. Lots of schools in the top-10 of recruiting have failed on the field:All of the schools who have won a national title have excelled at recruiting to include multiple top-10 classes.

Both can be true at the same time.

I can agree with this.

 

[Christo]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.

You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

 

[Capella]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

You're talking about the late 90s I take it?

Sorry recruiting and the information and ability for multiple people to scout these kids correctly is light years different now than 18 years ago. Almost embarrassing I have to point that out to you. It's called the Internet, you may have heard of it.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

19 of last 20 national champs had two top ten classes in previous four years. Recruiting absolutely matters.

Who said any different? Did Yellowjackets break top 50 this year, or are they just gonna shut down the program at this point?

Why are you such an ### in every thread especially after you post a bunch of nonsense?

 

[Christo]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

You're talking about the late 90s I take it?

Sorry recruiting and the information and ability for multiple people to scout these kids correctly is light years different now than 18 years ago. Almost embarrassing I have to point that out to you. It's called the Internet, you may have heard of it.

So you're backing off on your statement?

 

[nirad3]

Gray shirt has nothing to do with the previous year but rather the next. Kid basically doesn't enroll until next January and their eligibility doesn't begin until then. Basically the schools who can pick whatever recruit they want do it to 3-stars so they don't count against their scholarship cap this year.

So what does the kid do for a year? Do they go to a community college? Can they practice with the team?

apparently grayshirts cannot practice with the team, but they are enrolled in school. blueshirts however, can practice with the team

And whaaaaat does it mean if you're not wearing a shirt at all? Or pants for that matter. Asking for a friend.

 

[Bogart]

So OU had their first outright B12 title since 2010 and an appearance in the CFB playoff and they're struggling to land a Top 20 class.

That whole having to live in Norman while going to school there can't help things.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

So OU had their first outright B12 title since 2010 and an appearance in the CFB playoff and they're struggling to land a Top 20 class.

That whole having to live in Norman while going to school there can't help things.

Norman is awesome. Thanks.

 

[Capella]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

You're talking about the late 90s I take it? Sorry recruiting and the information and ability for multiple people to scout these kids correctly is light years different now than 18 years ago. Almost embarrassing I have to point that out to you. It's called the Internet, you may have heard of it.

So you're backing off on your statement?

It's amazing how much of a moron you strive to be.

 

[Christo]

So OU had their first outright B12 title since 2010 and an appearance in the CFB playoff and they're struggling to land a Top 20 class.

That whole having to live in Norman while going to school there can't help things.

These say otherwise.

 

[Christo]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

You're talking about the late 90s I take it? Sorry recruiting and the information and ability for multiple people to scout these kids correctly is light years different now than 18 years ago. Almost embarrassing I have to point that out to you. It's called the Internet, you may have heard of it.

So you're backing off on your statement?

It's amazing how much of a moron you strive to be.

I'm amazed you can spell moron.

 

[Capella]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

You're talking about the late 90s I take it? Sorry recruiting and the information and ability for multiple people to scout these kids correctly is light years different now than 18 years ago. Almost embarrassing I have to point that out to you. It's called the Internet, you may have heard of it.

So you're backing off on your statement?

It's amazing how much of a moron you strive to be.

I'm amazed you can spell moron.

Keep ignoring 16 years of data for an easily disproved sample from two decades ago just because your favorite team had a relatively mediocre recruiting class and you have to justify it to yourself somehow.

 

[Christo]

Love ya dr d but a top-30 class is

You are not winning a national title without multiple top-10 classes throughout a recruiting cycle.

http://www.sbnation.com/a/college-football-preview-2015/blue-chip-ratio

Look at the last 10 years and you only see 2010 Auburn and 2014 Ohio state (who was at 11) with a recruiting class outside the top-10 over 4 years. Auburn of course had a transcendent player.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/top-ten-signing-classes-are-necessary-for-national-titles-020515

if you aren't in the top-10 consistently you aren't winning a national title.

Go back and look at the recruiting classes OU had the four years before they beat FSU.You've got some time. I'm heading to work.

You're talking about the late 90s I take it? Sorry recruiting and the information and ability for multiple people to scout these kids correctly is light years different now than 18 years ago. Almost embarrassing I have to point that out to you. It's called the Internet, you may have heard of it.

So you're backing off on your statement?

It's amazing how much of a moron you strive to be.

I'm amazed you can spell moron.

Keep ignoring 16 years of data for an easily disproved sample from two decades ago just because your favorite team had a relatively mediocre recruiting class and you have to justify it to yourself somehow.

Wow, talk about going off the deep end.

 

[Capella]

I guarantee you Christo is one of those guys tweeting at recruits thinking it helps.

 

[Quez]

No wonder Ole Miss has had such great recruiting classes lately.  One has to wonder how much they are paying the #1 QB recruit Shea Patterson?  Queue the 5yr NCAA investigation that will result in a minor punishment long after all the current coaches & players are gone.

 

[The Commish]

No wonder Ole Miss has had such great recruiting classes lately.  One has to wonder how much they are paying the #1 QB recruit Shea Patterson?  Queue the 5yr NCAA investigation that will result in a minor punishment long after all the current coaches & players are gone.

Several predicted this would happen....I don't think anyone expected it to be this quick

 

[The Commish]

@gump

Are you following any of this  Najee Harris fiasco?  I haven't been entertained this much in a while.  It even has a bit of the "flight tracking" element to it   

I'd be shocked if he ended up anywhere other than Alabama though  

 

[gump]

@gump

Are you following any of this  Najee Harris fiasco?  I haven't been entertained this much in a while.  It even has a bit of the "flight tracking" element to it   

I'd be shocked if he ended up anywhere other than Alabama though  

Definitely a first for me!  Recruit flight tracking plus he's so quiet everyone is resorting to over-reacting to his boy Tua's quotes instead...

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Sooners added to their 2017 recruiting class on Thursday with a verbal commitment from four-star offensive tackle Adrian Ealy from Gonzales, La.

The 6-foot, 7-inch, 300-pound offensive lineman becomes the 24th member of the Sooners’ 2017 class that is rated anywhere from fourth to sixth depending on which recruiting service you follow.

OU also has a top 15 WR coming in named Charleston Rambo

That's a football name right there. 

 

[gump]

Boom:. http://alabama.247sports.com/Article/Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Football-Recruiting-5-star-Najee-Harris-Arr-50358907

 

[Mad Cow]

According to 247 Sports, Ohio State has the highest rated class ever since it has tracked.  The previous high was 94.  OSU at 96 after Okudah.  There are currently 7 or 8 5 stars in that class depending on what site you use.

 

[gump]

 

[Capella]

According to 247 Sports, Ohio State has the highest rated class ever since it has tracked.  The previous high was 94.  OSU at 96 after Okudah.  There are currently 7 or 8 5 stars in that class depending on what site you use.

Maybe that will help them score more than 0 points next time they play clemson. 

 

[The Commish]

This goes down tomorrow right?

 

[psychobillies]

According to 247 Sports, Ohio State has the highest rated class ever since it has tracked.  The previous high was 94.  OSU at 96 after Okudah.  There are currently 7 or 8 5 stars in that class depending on what site you use.

That's not so much the class ranking, but the average ranking of the committed players.  OSU is still at 94.62, which is #1 at the moment, but they've fallen behind Bama for the #1 class for now 310 - 308.  

OSU has 20 commits now, bama has 24.  How many more is OSU going to take?  I think Bama can only take 3 more.  

 

[psychobillies]

This goes down tomorrow right?

Yes.

 

[Mad Cow]

That's not so much the class ranking, but the average ranking of the committed players.  OSU is still at 94.62, which is #1 at the moment, but they've fallen behind Bama for the #1 class for now 310 - 308.  

OSU has 20 commits now, bama has 24.  How many more is OSU going to take?  I think Bama can only take 3 more.  

Not much left, they are just too young.  Still waiting to see what Marvin does.  Okudah and Browning have been teasing they have him this week. 

Fun time of year.

 

[psychobillies]

Not much left, they are just too young.  Still waiting to see what Marvin does.  Okudah and Browning have been teasing they have him this week. 

Fun time of year.

Marvin Wilson?  Everything I hear is that it's between LSU and FSU.  And, yes, I'm irrationally excited about tomorrow.  Not taking off of work like some of these lunatics, but I'll be checking in often.   Then 

 

[Mad Cow]

Marvin Wilson?  Everything I hear is that it's between LSU and FSU.  And, yes, I'm irrationally excited about tomorrow.  Not taking off of work like some of these lunatics, but I'll be checking in often.   Then 

Yes.  Not likely, but a possibility for a big flip surprise tomorrow.  They have 3 big time TX recruits that all know each other, and word is Marvin, Browning and Okudah are super close.  Dobbins is a friend as well.

 

[nirad3]

One of my fraternity brothers' kids is signing with UNC.  Stud WR.  Hope he does well.

http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina/story/1746029-corrales-commits

 

[Plorfu]

Lane Kiffin is FIRED UP! for Owl Nation.

 

[Mad Cow]

Checking 247 Sports, they show Marvin still leaning LSU but the latest crystal ball projections have been tOSU. . .

 

[gump]

That's not so much the class ranking, but the average ranking of the committed players.  OSU is still at 94.62, which is #1 at the moment, but they've fallen behind Bama for the #1 class for now 310 - 308.  

OSU has 20 commits now, bama has 24.  How many more is OSU going to take?  I think Bama can only take 3 more.  

I think we can take 4-5 more.  3 5-stars still on the board...a lot of confidence in 2 of them, with Solomon as a big ?.

 

[psychobillies]

Checking 247 Sports, they show Marvin still leaning LSU but the latest crystal ball projections have been tOSU. . .

:unlike:

 

[psychobillies]

I think we can take 4-5 more.  3 5-stars still on the board...a lot of confidence in 2 of them, with Solomon as a big ?.

How is that possible?  Haven't ya'll taken a full class every year for years?  How can you take 28 or 29?  I thought 3 was a stretch.  Just greyshirting and processing?

 

[gump]

How is that possible?  Haven't ya'll taken a full class every year for years?  How can you take 28 or 29?  I thought 3 was a stretch.  Just greyshirting and processing?

12 early enrollees is a big part of it.

 

[psychobillies]

12 early enrollees is a big part of it.

OK.  I'm gonna ask, bc I honestly don't know, but don't early enrollees only count back to spots left open from last year if there are spots left open from last year?  There's still only 85 scholarships at any given time right?  I'm aware every program has some attrition, but damn.

 

[Capella]

12 early enrollees is a big part of it.

So is saban churning the roster. It's a dirty thing to do at the college level but definitely works. 

 

[Capella]

OK.  I'm gonna ask, bc I honestly don't know, but don't early enrollees only count back to spots left open from last year if there are spots left open from last year?  There's still only 85 scholarships at any given time right?  I'm aware every program has some attrition, but damn.

Saban boots a bunch of kids. Most schools won't do it but that's why he can take those numbers. 

Edit: it has nothing to do with early enrollees. 

 

[Mad Cow]

Yeah, early enrollees do nothing.  OSU has 9 this time, as well.  All about kicking off the roster and transfers.

 

[gump]

OK.  I'm gonna ask, bc I honestly don't know, but don't early enrollees only count back to spots left open from last year if there are spots left open from last year?  There's still only 85 scholarships at any given time right?  I'm aware every program has some attrition, but damn.

We also lost 3 QBs this year (of 4 total) from Schollys....a bunch of graduations...nothing odd going on other than he manages his 'roster' extremely closely.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

We also lost 3 QBs this year (of 4 total) from Schollys....a bunch of graduations...nothing odd going on other than he manages his 'roster' extremely closely.

That's a nice way of saying he cuts you if you suck

 

[Capella]

That's a nice way of saying he cuts you if you suck

Yes. 

Come on Gump buddy, you can say it. It's not like you're the one sending these kids off to their favorite Mississippi JC. 

 

[LAUNCH]

https://twitter.com/mattbockhorst/status/826592131619905540

Top five recruits from Ohio
1 Sean Clifford PSU
2 Josh Myers OSU
3 Jerron Cage OSU
4 Amir Riep OSU 
5 Matt Bockhorst Clemson

@mattbockhorst

I may be ranked behind 3 Ohio State commits, but on the bright side that's more points than they scored the entire game against the Tigers

?

 

[bigmarc27]

https://twitter.com/mattbockhorst/status/826592131619905540

Top five recruits from Ohio
1 Sean Clifford PSU
2 Josh Myers OSU
3 Jerron Cage OSU
4 Amir Riep OSU 
5 Matt Bockhorst Clemson

@mattbockhorst

I may be ranked behind 3 Ohio State commits, but on the bright side that's more points than they scored the entire game against the Tigers

?

Oh he's definitely my new favorite recruit.