***Official NFC Divisional Playoff Packers vs Cowboys (1 Viewer)

[Cunk]

Even though I'm a Pat's fan I feel for you Dallas fans. YOU should be advancing. Not the Packers. This rule needs to change.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't know I'm happier about the Packers win or Malloy's retirement from football.

 

[kface]

ON such a controversial call there is surprising consensus that they got it right

 

[tdoss]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Check.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Check.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

How delicious that Aikman had to call this loss.

 

[monk]

I blame Romo for choking again.

Yeah ...taking a snap off the face while looking right at the ball probably cost them the game !

 

[sporthenry]

What an effing joke.

NFL does want Dallas to win

I think it's more of the refs just throwing too many flags. We'll probably see a few bad calls against Dallas as well before it's over.

So predictable. Officiating is ruining the NFL.

That had nothing to do with officiating. That has more to do with the competition committee and the owners. Subtle but important distinction. Even then, you're still going to watch next week.

 

[General Tso]

He makes a football move by lunging toward the goal line. He actually raises his arm out.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I don't know I'm happier about the Packers win or Malloy's retirement from football.

Keep bringing the funny, Packer fans

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Watch the postgame. This isn't difficult. He has to maintain throughout the catch. This rule is 4 years in. Steps mean nothing.

 

[kface]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Check.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Check.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

Hopefully you are watching the post game...they are explaining it pretty good

 

[sho nuff]

Once again the NFL reminds me that I have no idea what a catch is any more.

Agreed...even as a Packers fan.

Though, im supposed to be embarrassed by that.

 

[massraider]

Zero comparison to the non-call last week.

 

[IHEARTFF]

That rule is dumb. But that didn't cost them the game. Green Bay would have most definitely answered and won anyway.

 

[rockaction]

Even though I'm a Pat's fan I feel for you Dallas fans. YOU should be advancing. Not the Packers. This rule needs to change.

I sincerely disagree. He caught the ball, and then going to the ground, the ball bounced up into the air out of his arms and back into it. If you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, I'm not sure where the confusion is.

Actually, I get the confusion, but I think at this point I've got it a bit worked out by eye. Thanks, NFL.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Watch the postgame. This isn't difficult. He has to maintain throughout the catch. This rule is 4 years in. Steps mean nothing.

Which is ridiculous

 

[massraider]

Watch the postgame. This isn't difficult. He has to maintain throughout the catch. This rule is 4 years in. Steps mean nothing.

Yep.

Not nearly as bad as last week.

 

[lod01]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Nope.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Nope. Didn't lunge as replay clearly shows.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

Should have held onto the ball. Rule stats that this is an incomplete.

 

[Workhorse]

I don't understand how a guy who catches a ball in both hands as he's going to the ground, shifts the ball to one hand to extend to the end zone ISN'T making a football move.

 

[sho nuff]

Even though I'm a Pat's fan I feel for you Dallas fans. YOU should be advancing. Not the Packers. This rule needs to change.

Maybe a bad call...but you cant say it would make Dallas advance.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Once again the NFL reminds me that I have no idea what a catch is any more.

Agreed...even as a Packers fan.

Though, im supposed to be embarrassed by that.

Yet not embarrassed about being oblivious

 

[Deamon]

Even though I'm a Pat's fan I feel for you Dallas fans. YOU should be advancing. Not the Packers. This rule needs to change.

Yes, it's a shame when silly rules help you advance in the playoffs.

#tuck

 

[flapgreen]

Camera to Jerry Jones, please.

Really wanted that. I love seeing Jerry's face every time the Cowboys get knocked out. Priceless. Time to fire coach.

 

[jamny]

Bad call. Glad the Cowboys lost, but not like that.

 

[trader jake]

Great game by both teams. I congratulate Cowboy fans on a great season, a playoff win, and a great showing at Lambeau.

Sucks to end the season with a heartbreaker like that.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Check.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Check.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

He's going to the ground. Steps and football moves and all that is irrelevant. If you are going to the ground you have to maintain possession the entire time. He clearly did not. There is no question about it, according to the current rule.

 

[CR69]

Even OBJ says that was a catch

https://twitter.com/OBJ_3/status/554382008449646592

 

[sho nuff]

Once again the NFL reminds me that I have no idea what a catch is any more.

Agreed...even as a Packers fan. Though, im supposed to be embarrassed by that.

Yet not embarrassed about being oblivious

 

[NajehHejan]

How delicious that Aikman had to call this loss.

Almost as delicious as the fact that Chris Christie finally paid his own way this time, just to see them lose.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I don't understand how a guy who catches a ball in both hands as he's going to the ground, shifts the ball to one hand to extend to the end zone ISN'T making a football move.

Pereira had a good explanation on the post-game just now. If you're going to the ground 'the process' of the catch doesn't end until you hit the ground and you have to have control of the ball all the way through. As long as you're on your way down when you make the catch it doesn't matter what happens in-between, on the way down.

Terrible rule, but that's the rule.

 

[Manster]

Congrats to the Packers.

That said, Im done watching this season. Reminds me of the Megatron TD that got disallowed. Its a joke.

 

[GoBirds]

Even OBJ says that was a catch

https://twitter.com/OBJ_3/status/554382008449646592

Which means...

Absolutely nothing.

 

[renesauz]

Just because the ball moves doesn't mean the receiver doesn't have control :/

I really don't like that rule

Seriously don't understand this view. The ball LEFT HIS HANDS COMPLETELY after having hit the turf.

I understand hating the rule and believing that the rules should be changed such that a play like that is a catch, but the idea that he NEVER lost control here is just silly. By the rules, clearly incomplete, but the play is also a perfect example of why some people hate about the rule.

 

[tdoss]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Nope.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Nope. Didn't lunge as replay clearly shows.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

Should have held onto the ball. Rule stats that this is an incomplete.

How so? Everytime we see a RB switch the ball from one hand to the other in order to put his body inbetween the defender and the ball...we applaud him for being smart to protect the ball.

Protecting the ball...and lunging it towards the endzone HAS to be considered a football move. It certainly isn't a damned badminton move.

It's not on accident...it's done for purpose and reason. It's not him reacting to the ball bobbling and doing weird things during the catch...it's a CONSCIOUS effort to protect and lunge the ball.

 

[flapgreen]

if Rodgers can heal up more I like their chances in Seattle

why

 

[Mr.Pack]

Total BS. Dez made an amazing catch. He had complete control until he reached towards the end zone. F'ing ridiculous.

It's insane....an the ball never left his body......never. He had it all the way even after rolling into the end zone.

How do you take away a play like that?

***k replay. I have ben pounding the table about this for years here. Ruined the game people.

The ball hit the ground and popped away from him. How did you not see that on replay?

 

[GoBirds]

Congrats to the Packers.That said, Im done watching this season. Reminds me of the Megatron TD that got disallowed. Its a joke.

One play shouldn't decide a game. Could have made a lot of other plays.

 

[Sabertooth]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Check.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Check.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

You missed where Dez pushed off before the non catch and also where he did not maintain control through the process. Thanks for playing.

 

[FWmaker]

This guy is none to happy today.

http://i.imgur.com/speneDi.jpg

He got the tattoo in the preseason

LOL!

 

[Cunk]

Even though I'm a Pat's fan I feel for you Dallas fans. YOU should be advancing. Not the Packers. This rule needs to change.

I sincerely disagree. He caught the ball, and then going to the ground, the ball bounced up into the air out of his arms and back into it. If you have to possess the ball through contact with the ground, I'm not sure where the confusion is.

Actually, I get the confusion, but I think at this point I've got it a bit worked out by eye. Thanks, NFL.

I understand this is the rule and by the rules it was the correct call (I just puked into my mouth a little bit typing that) but, to me that was a catch and it's a shame the rules are the way they are.

 

[General Tso]

ON such a controversial call there is surprising consensus that they got it right

whoa there. Way too early to say that. Most people are trying to digest what the actual rule is. When people understand the rule, they will start making their opinions known. Mark my words, this will be one of the most controversial calls of all-time. And that's not hyperbole.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Its shocking how many people here play FFB, probably watch games every Sunday, and don't get or understand this rule. This was a big deal like 4-5 years ago

 

[The_Man]

Packers DB got fingers on it. Ball was still moving as it came down Dez's shoulder pad. He finally possessed it completely when he got in his left hand and then the ball popped out of his left hand when it clearly touched the ground. This was clearcut based on the rule

 

[flapgreen]

Congrats to the Packers.

That said, Im done watching this season. Reminds me of the Megatron TD that got disallowed. Its a joke.

May be the same result but very different plays. Dez juggled it after it hit the ground. Calvin caught it and placed it on the ground.

 

[monk]

I thought Perreira said the rule is he must complete the catch and make a football move. Looked pretty clear to me that he caught the ball and then made a football move stretching the ball towards the goal line.

That's the only case for this being a bad call but i thought it was more of him just stretching while falling forward. He was falling forward there in any circumstance...it wasn't him leaping for the end zone

I don't think him stretching forward was part of the catch. I think the catch was completed and he he was making a football move to the end zone. WAY too close to overturn something like that, particularly on a rule that sucks to begin with. Jerry is gonna be apoplectic.

Wasn't a catch. Not even close. Calvin took three steps, rolled over on the ground in the end zone and in the process of getting up, used the football to push off the ground and lost the ball. Calvin's was way more of a catch than that one according to the adapted logic.

the difference, I think, is that Calvin wasn't making a football move. Dez, in my opinion, was making a football move by lunging toward the end zone. A football move is what distinguishes that a catch is over.

Calvin clearly had possession, he controlled the ball in one hand and then intentional left it on the ground.

Dez never had complete control and lost it when he hit the ground

 

[Cunk]

Even though I'm a Pat's fan I feel for you Dallas fans. YOU should be advancing. Not the Packers. This rule needs to change.

Yes, it's a shame when silly rules help you advance in the playoffs.

#tuck

Yes, the tuck was a silly rule. Can we move on now?

 

[Power Monster]

It's a dumb rule and a tough way to lose.

 

[tdoss]

Can someone explain to me how that rule comes into effect when Dez was already down?

He took steps...landed on his elbow...THEN the ball hits the ground and pops up.

As soon as his elbow hits the ground...he's down, right?

Watch the calvin johnson play to get a better understanding

He's not down until he is through the movement of completing the catch

I don't see how there can be an application of that rule here.

Dez goes up...catches the ball...brings it into his body and then switches it from his dominant hand to his left...while taking steps...lunges...right elbow hits the ground before his left hand comes down with the ball into the ground.

What else must a person do to establish a catch?

He caught it...check.

He has control of it...check.

He switches it from one hand to the other...football move? Check.

He takes steps while switching it from one hand to another...football move? Check.

He lunges for the endzone...football move? Check.

His off hand elbow comes down...he's down...check.

Are ANY of those in question above? If so...are you able to overturn all those "football moves"?

He's going to the ground. Steps and football moves and all that is irrelevant. If you are going to the ground you have to maintain possession the entire time. He clearly did not. There is no question about it, according to the current rule.

Then why isn't this considered everytime we see a running back do it to lunge to the endzone? They look at if his knee, elbow or something was down before the ball hits the ground.

Or when receivers/quarterbacks run and extend just their arm with the ball over the edge of the cone...then lose the ball after it breaks the plane?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

You packer fans don't have an official thread where I can congratulate you?

Good luck next week. Boys D couldn't stop a gimpy Rodgers so we don't deserve to advance.

Beat Seattle.

 

[ROCKET]

Does anyone have any links to the post game Jerruh booth meltdown?