Official Packers Off-season Thread (1 Viewer)

[uwgb96]

I'm in the "have patience" camp, but I'll admit I was not happy to see Griffith go to Oakland. It seems like he would be a good fit and it was by no means a huge contract.

But the fact remains, we are far from experts. Everybody wants to play armchair GM, but Thompson isn't in Millen's class yet, so you really need to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Relax and let's let the off-season play itself out.

 

[Warhogs]

A lot of teams received a big boost in cap space this year and are spending it this year and may be strapped against the cap again next season. If GB can't get the players they want for the price they want I then agree with locking up the players you want to keep on your roster with extensions and keeping in a sound position for future years. I am fine with the approach they have taken.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

A lot of teams received a big boost in cap space this year and are spending it this year and may be strapped against the cap again next season. If GB can't get the players they want for the price they want I then agree with locking up the players you want to keep on your roster with extensions and keeping in a sound position for future years. I am fine with the approach they have taken.

 

[Aaronstory]

HEY PACKERS! MAKE SOME MOVES TO COMPETE DAMMIT!!!

Many teams have not "made moves" in free agency yet. No need to panic and even more reason to be happy since the Packers are not "jumping at the bit" to just sign somebody/anybody.Listened to 107.5 this afternoon and the first caller I heard was saying what the OP said... with Havel agreeing. I could just shake my head and laugh.

Same thing on the radio in Milwaukee. The radio guys hate Thompson and the idiot callers are all thinking that we have to, HAVE TO trade up to get Lynch because the Packers don't have a RB on their roster. Hmmm, what position do Morency, Herron, or Beach (they are pretty high on him, sleeper alert) play?Anyway, I figure they have something in mind. They'll definitely get a back in day 1. Who it is will probably surprise people, but that's just the way it goes. Packer fans have been pleasantly surprised with the drafting of Nick Barnett, Nick Collins, and Greg Jennings as of late so it is definitely not a bad thing. I doubt the Lynch will be there at 16, if he is great, but if he isn't I'd love to see a guy like Jarrett up in Titletown. Regardless, this will be a great draft and the Packers don't have as many holes to fill as people think so they may just surprise some people this year.Relax Packer fans. We're in the NFC, all is not lost.

I'm sorry, you must have missed the meeting. This is the Official Packer Off-Season Thread. No logic or reason allowed.

 

[noohpyt]

I had only one gripe so far with the packers lack of movement in the FA pool and that was they didn't make a move on trying to get Deon Grant the safety from Jacksonville. Young talented kid who had been coming into his own and could've helped out the team with a bit of a pass rush from the outside. The only thing left out there are question marks or guys who lack tackling and other basic football skills or the heart to win.

As for there 1st round pick I see them grabbing R. Meachem WR Tenn. and looking to fill that RB position in the 2nd or 3rd rounds with K. Irons or else B. Jackson.

But if at all possible one of the top 3 Safeties falls to them in the 1st round they will need to seriously look at em.

Just a couple of cents to throw in there..

-ME-

 

[Billy1x]

I had only one gripe so far with the packers lack of movement in the FA pool and that was they didn't make a move on trying to get Deon Grant the safety from Jacksonville. Young talented kid who had been coming into his own and could've helped out the team with a bit of a pass rush from the outside. The only thing left out there are question marks or guys who lack tackling and other basic football skills or the heart to win.As for there 1st round pick I see them grabbing R. Meachem WR Tenn. and looking to fill that RB position in the 2nd or 3rd rounds with K. Irons or else B. Jackson.But if at all possible one of the top 3 Safeties falls to them in the 1st round they will need to seriously look at em.Just a couple of cents to throw in there..-ME-

Safety is the #1 priority. Without a big upgrade there they won't make it past the 1st round of the playoffs.

 

[Balco]

I want TT to take the best player available with the # 1. We are not in a position do draft need over talent. We still have plenty of holes that need to be filled. If TT has Meachum as the # 1 player left on his board, then I am fine with that.

 

[Challenge Everything]

I dont like any of the 1st round WR's coming out. The exchange rate between a top WR or a top Safety, to me, is a no brainer. I seriously hope they go Safety in the 1st round, no ifs ands or buts about it.

While I see a need for a RB we do not need one at #16. I dont see teams jumping on the RB band wagon with free agency yet so why pick up an unproven rookie?

Chris Havel wants the Packers to draft Ginn Jr from Ohio State... I truly hope they do nothing of the sort.

 

[Aaronstory]

I dont like any of the 1st round WR's coming out. The exchange rate between a top WR or a top Safety, to me, is a no brainer. I seriously hope they go Safety in the 1st round, no ifs ands or buts about it. While I see a need for a RB we do not need one at #16. I dont see teams jumping on the RB band wagon with free agency yet so why pick up an unproven rookie?Chris Havel wants the Packers to draft Ginn Jr from Ohio State... I truly hope they do nothing of the sort.

I agree somewhat. If by some miracle Landry falls to them at 16, they should take him in a heartbeat. But the truth of the matter is they need any offensive skill player they can get.

 

[kevthegrad]

HEY PACKERS! MAKE SOME MOVES TO COMPETE DAMMIT!!!

Many teams have not "made moves" in free agency yet. No need to panic and even more reason to be happy since the Packers are not "jumping at the bit" to just sign somebody/anybody.Listened to 107.5 this afternoon and the first caller I heard was saying what the OP said... with Havel agreeing. I could just shake my head and laugh.

You don't jump jump at a bit. You chomp on it.

 

[Sabertooth]

I dont like any of the 1st round WR's coming out. The exchange rate between a top WR or a top Safety, to me, is a no brainer. I seriously hope they go Safety in the 1st round, no ifs ands or buts about it. While I see a need for a RB we do not need one at #16. I dont see teams jumping on the RB band wagon with free agency yet so why pick up an unproven rookie?Chris Havel wants the Packers to draft Ginn Jr from Ohio State... I truly hope they do nothing of the sort.

I agree somewhat. If by some miracle Landry falls to them at 16, they should take him in a heartbeat. But the truth of the matter is they need any offensive skill player they can get.

If Ginn somehow slides to them, they should snag him.

 

[kevthegrad]

cnnsi.com (Peter King I think) has an article up about how smart the Packers and Titans are being about having so much to spend under the cap but not just going out and signing everyone they can.

I suppose I will stop over-reacting to their inactivity now although getting a Joe Horn or Eric Johnson/Randy McMichael would have been very nice.

 

[bcr8f]

cnnsi.com (Peter King I think) has an article up about how smart the Packers and Titans are being about having so much to spend under the cap but not just going out and signing everyone they can. I suppose I will stop over-reacting to their inactivity now although getting a Joe Horn or Eric Johnson/Randy McMichael would have been very nice.

If they don't sign anyone look how smart they will be. You can't make mistakes if you don't take to take chances.Ron Wolf made a lot of good moves and a lot of mistakes, but at least he tried to improve the team. In this day you can't build a team just through the draft.

 

[Aaronstory]

cnnsi.com (Peter King I think) has an article up about how smart the Packers and Titans are being about having so much to spend under the cap but not just going out and signing everyone they can. I suppose I will stop over-reacting to their inactivity now although getting a Joe Horn or Eric Johnson/Randy McMichael would have been very nice.

If they don't sign anyone look how smart they will be. You can't make mistakes if you don't take to take chances.Ron Wolf made a lot of good moves and a lot of mistakes, but at least he tried to improve the team. In this day you can't build a team just through the draft.

No, but you should do it mainly through the draft.Look at his FA moves last year. The early one, Manuel, was the worst. The two that came latter in the off-season, Pickett and Woodson, were fantastic.Patience, my young padawan.

 

[bcr8f]

cnnsi.com (Peter King I think) has an article up about how smart the Packers and Titans are being about having so much to spend under the cap but not just going out and signing everyone they can. I suppose I will stop over-reacting to their inactivity now although getting a Joe Horn or Eric Johnson/Randy McMichael would have been very nice.

If they don't sign anyone look how smart they will be. You can't make mistakes if you don't take to take chances.Ron Wolf made a lot of good moves and a lot of mistakes, but at least he tried to improve the team. In this day you can't build a team just through the draft.

No, but you should do it mainly through the draft.Look at his FA moves last year. The early one, Manuel, was the worst. The two that came latter in the off-season, Pickett and Woodson, were fantastic.Patience, my young padawan.

I agree, but you need to replace more than you lose. He waited too long and overpaid for a oft injured Woodson. It worked ouit for him one year, but still thiunk he overpaid.He also should have traded Javon earlier. He should have gotten a #1 for that guy. If he did it one month before the draft, working him out for other teams would have gotten a better pick. From what I saw he waited too long. This season it looks like he is making the same mistake. Get in Ted. Yoy don't have to offer any deals but al least work out and talk to people.

 

[ookook]

I am thinking I like the looks of Micheal Griffin at #16.

 

[ookook]

Is the pricetag on Kelley Washington too high?

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

I agree, but you need to replace more than you lose.

He waited too long and overpaid for a oft injured Woodson. It worked ouit for him one year, but still thiunk he overpaid.



He also should have traded Javon earlier. He should have gotten a #1 for that guy. If he did it one month before the draft, working him out for other teams would have gotten a better pick.

From what I saw he waited too long. This season it looks like he is making the same mistake. Get in Ted. Yoy don't have to offer any deals but al least work out and talk to people.

Bolded part caught my eye. Considering that there was some doubt whether Walker would be ready for the start of the '06 season after suffering his torn ACL in the '05 season, I don't think Walker was probably ready to work out for teams in March of '06...? In hindsight, with Walker recovering nicely and putting up good numbers this season in Denver, yes, it looks like the Packers may not have gotten good value in that trade. But at the time, I think it was a pretty solid trade by TT.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

Chris Brown will make a nice fit. The dude has always been effective in zone blocking themes and will make a nice complitory to Morency.

I am still on the Moss bandwagon too. Could be why so little FA movement so far. I beleive the rumors a silent deal has been worked out for a 4th rounder. Just won't happen until draft day.

Hall of Ohio State will make a nice second day TE pick. Ran a 4.3 40 yesterday and big enough to learn the pro TE position.

 

[ookook]

Although I think Chris Brown would be fine, I also could see the return of Tony Fisher being much cheaper and perhaps shoring up RB enough.

I want no part of Randy Moss. His shortcomings are legion as a player and a teammate. There are plenty of FA receivers out there still such as Wilford or Washington.

Speaking of TEs, isn't Jeremy Stevens an unrestricted FA? Is he healthy?

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

cnnsi.com (Peter King I think) has an article up about how smart the Packers and Titans are being about having so much to spend under the cap but not just going out and signing everyone they can. I suppose I will stop over-reacting to their inactivity now although getting a Joe Horn or Eric Johnson/Randy McMichael would have been very nice.

If they don't sign anyone look how smart they will be. You can't make mistakes if you don't take to take chances.Ron Wolf made a lot of good moves and a lot of mistakes, but at least he tried to improve the team. In this day you can't build a team just through the draft.

No, but you should do it mainly through the draft.Look at his FA moves last year. The early one, Manuel, was the worst. The two that came latter in the off-season, Pickett and Woodson, were fantastic.Patience, my young padawan.

Get in Ted. Yoy don't have to offer any deals but al least work out and talk to people.

Well, he brought in Griffith and Horn, among others. He is working out and talking to people. Not sure what the complaint is here.

 

[Sabertooth]

cnnsi.com (Peter King I think) has an article up about how smart the Packers and Titans are being about having so much to spend under the cap but not just going out and signing everyone they can.

I suppose I will stop over-reacting to their inactivity now although getting a Joe Horn or Eric Johnson/Randy McMichael would have been very nice.

If they don't sign anyone look how smart they will be. You can't make mistakes if you don't take to take chances.Ron Wolf made a lot of good moves and a lot of mistakes, but at least he tried to improve the team. In this day you can't build a team just through the draft.

I think you have to build your team through the draft. Who were the actual starters on the Colts that weren't drafted by them. Corey Simon, Anthony McFarland, and Adam Vinatieri I think pretty much sums it up. This is one of the best teams in the NFL every season. And they have a kicker and starting DT that weren't drafted by them. Remember also that this was considered the worst FA class ever. Only one team gets to sign Adalius Thomas, leaving 31 out in the cold. In FA the player picks you, in the draft you get the players you want.

 

[Sabertooth]

Although I think Chris Brown would be fine, I also could see the return of Tony Fisher being much cheaper and perhaps shoring up RB enough.I want no part of Randy Moss. His shortcomings are legion as a player and a teammate. There are plenty of FA receivers out there still such as Wilford or Washington.Speaking of TEs, isn't Jeremy Stevens an unrestricted FA? Is he healthy?

I'd like to see Fisher back too. He was a pretty good receiver as well. Nice 3rd down back.

 

[Aaronstory]

Speaking of TEs, isn't Jeremy Stevens an unrestricted FA? Is he healthy?

He is and he is.That said, I just don't see TT paying big money to a FA tight end when he just paid Franks big money two years ago. I think a TE will def be added in the draft.

 

[Sabertooth]

Speaking of TEs, isn't Jeremy Stevens an unrestricted FA? Is he healthy?

He is and he is.That said, I just don't see TT paying big money to a FA tight end when he just paid Franks big money two years ago. I think a TE will def be added in the draft.

On the one hand I can see that seeing how fiscally responsible Thompson is. On the other, I think he would try to address the situation if he saw he needed to do so. I don't know how much a "water under the bridge" contract like Franks' would impact his decision. I mean Bubba was a bad investment, no sense in compounding it by not re-addressing the TE position again. Ted Thompson drafted Stevens in Seattle and is quite familiar with him. Doesn't necessarily mean that he likes him though.

 

[Aaronstory]

Speaking of TEs, isn't Jeremy Stevens an unrestricted FA? Is he healthy?

He is and he is.That said, I just don't see TT paying big money to a FA tight end when he just paid Franks big money two years ago. I think a TE will def be added in the draft.

On the one hand I can see that seeing how fiscally responsible Thompson is. On the other, I think he would try to address the situation if he saw he needed to do so. I don't know how much a "water under the bridge" contract like Franks' would impact his decision. I mean Bubba was a bad investment, no sense in compounding it by not re-addressing the TE position again. Ted Thompson drafted Stevens in Seattle and is quite familiar with him. Doesn't necessarily mean that he likes him though.

I can roll with that. I get the feeling he's saving cap space for something big later, like last years Woodson signing, which was the week before the draft. I just wish I could figure out who it might be, if it's not a certain WR out West.

 

[bcr8f]

I'd like to see Michael Allan in the 5th round.

 

[jurrassic]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

 

[Billy1x]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

 

[BLOX]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

So, does he draft his replacement or would Hodge become the starter in '08?

 

[Challenge Everything]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

I dont understand this. I know some stuff about football and all but do not understand what is bad about Barnett. Granted, he is not worth top 5 money... possibly in the range of top 10-15 as far as MLB's go but why not give him that money? He knows the defense and him and Hawk should only get better by playing together. The Packers LB's are the best they have been in years and are young as well. Even if Hodge is just as good, which he has not proven yet, he will eventually want the same if not more money. Is he, a prospect, worth the risk/money a couple years down the road of what Barnett is right now? I just dont see the reasoning here.

 

[BLOX]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

I dont understand this. I know some stuff about football and all but do not understand what is bad about Barnett. Granted, he is not worth top 5 money... possibly in the range of top 10-15 as far as MLB's go but why not give him that money? He knows the defense and him and Hawk should only get better by playing together. The Packers LB's are the best they have been in years and are young as well. Even if Hodge is just as good, which he has not proven yet, he will eventually want the same if not more money. Is he, a prospect, worth the risk/money a couple years down the road of what Barnett is right now? I just dont see the reasoning here.

The only thing I can think as a reason would be that he wasn't drafted by Thompson. They better at least use the transition tag on him to get something in return for him.

 

[Aaronstory]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

So, does he draft his replacement or would Hodge become the starter in '08?

Good Holy Ghost let's hope it aint Hodge. He was scary bad in his one start last season...

 

[Spiderman]

No need to talk about the Packers off-season since they've done NOTHING.

 

[sho nuff]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

I think they get Barnett locked up this offseason.He will want something similar to the free agents...but will get a bit less and probably take it to stay in the same team and system knowing it is working for him. Probably along the lines of a 3-4 year deal with a good chunk up front.They would be idiotic to let him go. Pay him around the top 10 or so and keep him happy.

 

[Pipes]

With $21 million under the cap, TT is going to spend it all. The question is how. I still think he will bring in a veteran back at $2.5-3 million this year. I also see us signing a db or 2. I really think he should use alot of this money to tie up some of the guys who are here and do for contract extensions. Barnett, Collins, and Tauscher all have contracts coming up in a year or two. If you are not going to spend the money on free agents, he should re-sign these guys to cap friendly contracts. Similar to the Woodson deal.

Barnett looks like he's gone next year. He wants a contract like the current free agents. Don't see any way he's going to get it from the Packers.

I think they get Barnett locked up this offseason.He will want something similar to the free agents...but will get a bit less and probably take it to stay in the same team and system knowing it is working for him. Probably along the lines of a 3-4 year deal with a good chunk up front.They would be idiotic to let him go. Pay him around the top 10 or so and keep him happy.

Yeah I'm not sure why people are assuming Barnett's gone after this year. He's said that he wants a new deal so it sounds like he wants to stay in Green Bay and with their cap situation I fully expect something to get done. Maybe not right away but some time before Barnett becomes a free agent.

 

[jurrassic]

Barnett's agent even said they are not looking for Urlacher/Ray Lewis money. He will probably demand a contract similar to what Porter signed for. Which is 5 years for $30 million. A little steep but that is the going rate. Now Porter is a perennial pro-bowler so we may be able to get Barnett for a little less but Porter is getting up there in age.

 

[sho nuff]

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/n...ws/16896057.htm

Signed Frank Walker.

Should provide a little depth at CB...nothing special here....

 

[Aaronstory]

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/n...ws/16896057.htm

Signed Frank Walker.

Should provide a little depth at CB...nothing special here....

Special? No. A solid signing and an upgrade over Dendy? Yes.

 

[sho nuff]

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/n...ws/16896057.htm

Signed Frank Walker.

Should provide a little depth at CB...nothing special here....

Special? No. A solid signing and an upgrade over Dendy? Yes.

Going into the offseason this was down on my list...but still on my list of needs.Depth at corner so nickel defense is not just putrid.

So it has been at least addressed a little. I still expect a 2nd day draft pick or 2 on DBs.

 

[el centro]

My here...

If the Moss deal gets done... or not, I'm wondering if the Packers don't wait on RB until round 2. Leonard is flying up the boards, and is the typical blue-collar kind of player that would flourish in GB which is very much a blue-collar town.

 

[sho nuff]

My here...If the Moss deal gets done... or not, I'm wondering if the Packers don't wait on RB until round 2. Leonard is flying up the boards, and is the typical blue-collar kind of player that would flourish in GB which is very much a blue-collar town.

Ive liked Leonard alot...and if the trade for Moss goes through with the rumored Courtney Anderson...I can see Thompson going safety in round one and Leonard in 2...and I would be thrilled with it.Ive been pretty big on Leonard. Big kid, tough, can be versatile to use as a FB catching the ball out of the backfield or in the running game. Adds a dimension in 2 back sets because he is a threat to run the ball and not just a blocking only type guy (Henderson...though he could catch too).

 

[sts911911]

I don't really understand the Randy Moss trade, to me it really doesn't make sense. Is Thompson rebuilding or not? If we are rebuilding why are we trading our future franchise QB and picks for a 30 year old malcontent WR? Now if we are going to make a run at it then I'd understand the trade for Moss. But if we are making a run for it why the hell didn't we spend that 20 million and get some more players in here... to me the trade seems to contradict what Thompson is doing, rebuilding and doing it with young talent through the draft...

 

[sho nuff]

I don't really understand the Randy Moss trade, to me it really doesn't make sense. Is Thompson rebuilding or not? If we are rebuilding why are we trading our future franchise QB and picks for a 30 year old malcontent WR? Now if we are going to make a run at it then I'd understand the trade for Moss. But if we are making a run for it why the hell didn't we spend that 20 million and get some more players in here... to me the trade seems to contradict what Thompson is doing, rebuilding and doing it with young talent through the draft...

My opinion...he is trying to rebuild with youth...while still trying to win enough here and there and make enough moves here and there to make the fans happy until he has his team in there to be a contender.

 

[Pipes]

I don't really understand the Randy Moss trade, to me it really doesn't make sense. Is Thompson rebuilding or not? If we are rebuilding why are we trading our future franchise QB and picks for a 30 year old malcontent WR? Now if we are going to make a run at it then I'd understand the trade for Moss. But if we are making a run for it why the hell didn't we spend that 20 million and get some more players in here... to me the trade seems to contradict what Thompson is doing, rebuilding and doing it with young talent through the draft...

What trade? The only thing that's happened so far are rumors and innuendos.

 

[428143]

Barnett's agent even said they are not looking for Urlacher/Ray Lewis money. He will probably demand a contract similar to what Porter signed for. Which is 5 years for $30 million. A little steep but that is the going rate. Now Porter is a perennial pro-bowler so we may be able to get Barnett for a little less but Porter is getting up there in age.

Do the Pack give him $6 million per when Hawk (if he lives up to his potential) will ask for 6+ in a year or two?

 

[sho nuff]

Barnett's agent even said they are not looking for Urlacher/Ray Lewis money. He will probably demand a contract similar to what Porter signed for. Which is 5 years for $30 million. A little steep but that is the going rate. Now Porter is a perennial pro-bowler so we may be able to get Barnett for a little less but Porter is getting up there in age.

Do the Pack give him $6 million per when Hawk (if he lives up to his potential) will ask for 6+ in a year or two?

Hawk already has a nice deal...I simply don't think you can keep looking at...well XXX will ask for this in a year or two if we take care of Barnett...so lets not give it to him?