***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (4 Viewers)

[DJackson10]

Kingston another sensitive Karen. He sure likes to cut deep on others....but can't take it when someone tries the same on him. Just like Puke.

Kingston looks like a slob. That's the reality. If he's sensitive about it, change it. Glenn nor anyone else is saying he can't cut a good promo

Glenn makes himself a ****ing hypocrite when he says he put in hard work. Doing Steroids with the boys isn't putting in the hardworking. That's cutting by the easy way. Cody a few months ago went after him and basically called him a never was and no one will ever book him. Dude was an embarrassment to the the industry. Disco sucked as a genre anyway.

 

[DJackson10]

Shane Taylor who use to be part of the ROH tag team with Keith lee Pretty Boy Killers debuted for IMPACT the other day. He lost to Crazy Steve. IMPACT sucks in this regard. Taylor is a fairly underrated guy and I think AEW would've benefited having Taylor come in and tag with Taylor. Have a big body tag team monsters who are pretty athletic. If this continues for Taylor I see a short TNA run here

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Well, can't win em all. Last night was Triple H's first swing and miss.
* The woman's tag title match made zero sense. The girl tagging with Rachel Rodriguez is beyond terrible.
* The Dexter Lumis stuff is terrible.
*Who can't see Dominic's turn coming a mile away?
The one shining moment was the Sami/Usos stuff. I'd actually love to see a Sami/Owens vs Usos match.

 

[DJackson10]

Well, can't win em all. Last night was Triple H's first swing and miss.
* The woman's tag title match made zero sense. The girl tagging with Rachel Rodriguez is beyond terrible.
* The Dexter Lumis stuff is terrible.
*Who can't see Dominic's turn coming a mile away?
The one shining moment was the Sami/Usos stuff. I'd actually love to see a Sami/Owens vs Usos match.

I love Dexter Lumis gimmick. He was Sam Shaw in IMPACT and had a stalker gimmick where he kidnapped Christy Hemy.

ALiyah is tagging with RR and is pretty good.

Dominic turn was seen months when Balor made the comments about Rey not being a great father and Vince still in charge.

I haven't watched raw from last night at all yet though

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Well, can't win em all. Last night was Triple H's first swing and miss.
* The woman's tag title match made zero sense. The girl tagging with Rachel Rodriguez is beyond terrible.
* The Dexter Lumis stuff is terrible.
*Who can't see Dominic's turn coming a mile away?
The one shining moment was the Sami/Usos stuff. I'd actually love to see a Sami/Owens vs Usos match.

I love Dexter Lumis gimmick. He was Sam Shaw in IMPACT and had a stalker gimmick where he kidnapped Christy Hemy.

ALiyah is tagging with RR and is pretty good.

Dominic turn was seen months when Balor made the comments about Rey not being a great father and Vince still in charge.

I haven't watched raw from last night at all yet though

We see things waaaaay differently. Aliyah (or whatever her name is) is a dumpster fire. She honestly might be the worst woman wrestler on the roster. Botches, getting obviously lost within the flow of the match, moves you can see a foot of daylight in between. She's lucky she's smoking hot or I doubt she'd be in wwe.
The Lumis stuff is a channel turner as soon as it comes on for me. So incredibly stupid, and that's saying something in the current wwe.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Imagine tweeting this dogsheet

At some point before tweeting it, shouldn't it cross one's mind "This isn't it"?

 

[DJackson10]

Imagine tweeting this dogsheet

At some point before tweeting it, shouldn't it cross one's mind "This isn't it"?

Nyla is just a botch fest waiting to happen. New Nia Jaxx. I'm all for inclusitivioty but Jesus she's bad.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

If anyone is looking for some cheap cawk. The Peacawk has a yearly membership (ad plan) for 19.99 if use promo code ONEYEAR or SEPTEMBER and get WWE library with

 

[DJackson10]

If anyone is looking for some cheap cawk. The Peacawk has a yearly membership (ad plan) for 19.99 if use promo code ONEYEAR or SEPTEMBER and get WWE library with

That sounds worth it. Wonder if I cancel my Sub and then try and renew it I can get it or would I have to create a whole new account?

 

[Tom Servo]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

She shows up at a lot of different events. I'm wondering what her parents do for a living because she's at matches all over the US.

 

[facook]

Imagine tweeting this dogsheet

At some point before tweeting it, shouldn't it cross one's mind "This isn't it"?

Nyla is just a botch fest waiting to happen. New Nia Jaxx. I'm all for inclusitivioty but Jesus she's bad.

This "main event" should just be shown in full on Botchamania. The product is embarrassing.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

CM Punk body shaming someone in the crowd.

Suspend him!!!!!

For Life.

Oh the irony.

 

[hagmania]

Will has such a different style when in America vs everywhere else in the world

 

[DJackson10]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

Parents saw a cash cow and exploited her. How old is she now because I don't think she's even 18 yet? Her parents are the reason MSK and Chelsea Green got booed in NXT. Both especially Nash Carter of MSK spoke out on Izzy's parents for this. Nash might be a scumbag but in this instance I agree with him. Izzy's dad also made fun publicly of Lince Dorado's WWE release. Lance Storm has spoken out against it.

It's unfortunate. Izzy seems like a cool girl but I just worry the parents are using her to cash in. They don't care about her overall well being or anything. Just looking at the money she's making them now. I wish her luck and when she turns 18 she makes her own decisions and not be pressured by her parents and others.

 

[DJackson10]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

She shows up at a lot of different events. I'm wondering what her parents do for a living because she's at matches all over the US.

They don't work anymore. They live off the money their daughter makes now.

 

[DJackson10]

Will has such a different style when in America vs everywhere else in the world

Have you seen him live at the NJPW events in the US?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Malakai Black requested his AEW release and was denied.

 

[Tom Servo]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

She shows up at a lot of different events. I'm wondering what her parents do for a living because she's at matches all over the US.

They don't work anymore. They live off the money their daughter makes now.

Wait, what now? Where'd you see that? Personally, I'd be ashamed if I was mooching off my kid's work, but that's just me.

 

[Tom Servo]

Malakai Black requested his AEW release and was denied.

* allegedly

 

[DJackson10]

Malakai Black requested his AEW release and was denied.

Dam shame if he goes but at least if he goes back to WWE we know Hunter will push him and let him keep his character.

Raj Giri is reporting that Malakai Black has asked for his release from AEW but it was not granted. Giri said the following on Twitter:

"I heard an AEW star requested their release, and follow up sources indicate it was Malakai Black. He reportedly has repeatedly shown concerns about his mental health due to personal life and demoralization due to the booking and handling of his character. (1)"

There has been no public comment from AEW or Black on this story but it is worth noting that Black is one of the names that Triple H pushed in NXT and WWE has reportedly reached out to several AEW talent in recent weeks. Dave Meltzer reported the following in the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter about people who were contacted:

"Regarding the talent approached by WWE, as we noted last week it was multiple people, generally the people who had worked with Paul Levesque in the past in NXT. Several told AEW which led to the legal letter sent to Levesque, Stephanie and Nick Khan. There was at least one person who asked for his release, which hasn’t been granted and the person has a long time left on his deal."

 

[DJackson10]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

She shows up at a lot of different events. I'm wondering what her parents do for a living because she's at matches all over the US.

They don't work anymore. They live off the money their daughter makes now.

Wait, what now? Where'd you see that? Personally, I'd be ashamed if I was mooching off my kid's work, but that's just me.

I've heard it from several people. I was talking to Juice Robinson at the NJPW Strong tapings in Philly and also talked to Kross who both confirmed this. Kross doesn't agree with it but didn't speak out seeing what happened to Chelsea and MSK. Juice has heard stuff from friends in WWE too. A lot of the wrestlers I've talked to have said stuff as well. Juice said when he was in there and Bayley started getting popular he met Izzy and her parents. Izzy is like any other kid rooting for her favorites etc. He said back then he got a bad vibe from the parents. A lot of those NJPW guys know people in NXT talent or people who work there as Hunter brought in a few guys for production and such from the Indies to help create that feel for the black and gold.

The parents have become an issue in NXT for WWE personel. WWE can't do much as the crowd in NXT goes back to like full sail days and most of the crowd knows one another. It's how Izzy's parents got fans to turn on certain talent because they didn't like being called out by a few wrestlers about starting izzy in wrestling. It's a lose lose situation for WWE there. You let bring in anyone who speaks out on Izzy's situation and her parents handling of it and they have the fans there turn on you. WWE does something about the parents but allowing izzy to stay or whatever and you'll have over Half that crowd not coming for shows.

Parents are your typically living through your kid. Like the youth sports parent who thinks their kid is the best, always causes a scene if their kid isn't playing, acts like they are the best ever etc. Also a lot of this crowd will travel for the takeovers. Saw a bunch at NXT Philly where Black/Andrade had their match I believe was one of the main events. A lot of them know Izzy and their parents and are absolute Marks. Can't even say anything bad about the product. It's like Izzy's parents dictate what the crowd should or shouldn't like.

Per Meltzer last year on MSK

Per WOR Meltzer states:

"I got a couple of versions of the story but the version going around is basically correct. I think the short version of it rather than go into big details of people say in line is that there are people there, including the parents of Izzy, who are mad because in 2018 Zachary Wentz before he was Nash Carter when he was an independent wrestler and others including Lance Storm and Chealsea Green made comments that were negative about Izzy taking a chokeslam at an independent show when she was 13 years old… so Carter shows up at NXT and her parents start the crowd to go against him and they got a lot of friends and everyone knows everyone. There’s like 200 people there and they’re pretty much all invited and it’s the same people every week…”

“It’s enough of those people that they’re booing them. They’re gonna boo MSK, that’s their deal so that’s the basic story on why. It’s not like it’s some organic thing. It was enough people that they can make it boo because it’s such a small building.”

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Somehow A&W found a way to misuse Black even more. After he feuded with Cody....nothing.

He should be main eventing or upper midcard at worst in any company. Not jobbing in a 6 man tag against Dork order. Let him back in WWE with his old theme song.

Should be TONS of stories about cokehead money Mark once the paychecks stop coming in.

 

[DJackson10]

Somehow A&W found a way to misuse Black even more. After he feuded with Cody....nothing.

He should be main eventing or upper midcard at worst in any company. Not jobbing in a 6 man tag against Dork order. Let him back in WWE with his old theme song.

Should be TONS of stories about cokehead money Mark once the paychecks stop coming in.

He's had a back issue that almost forced him to retire awhile back he's dealing with and he's had history of mental illness. There is also talk that the marriage with Zelina isn't all peachy but that's unconfirmed stuff. He has a 5 yrs contract which he has 4 yrs left on. AEW is apparently helping him with whatever is going on though.

 

[DJackson10]

Izzy is taking bookings now? Yikes.

She shows up at a lot of different events. I'm wondering what her parents do for a living because she's at matches all over the US.

They don't work anymore. They live off the money their daughter makes now.

Wait, what now? Where'd you see that? Personally, I'd be ashamed if I was mooching off my kid's work, but that's just me.

Here's more from a now closed reddit thread where I got the Meltzer quotes. Some reddit users were Full Sail crowd attendees sharing stories on the parents. Reddit was where I first became aware of the issue with Izzy's parents before this issue as well as some from the Full Sail crowd. Some nice info in here. One reddit user who went to full sail said her parent's mom especially had that pageant mom feel to her. Held court outside the arena constantly, made sure to have same seats all the time etc etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/qg5wgz/wor_meltzer_confirms_that_izzys_parents_are_the/

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Wales crowd is hot

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

DOMINICK!!!!!

 

[hagmania]

If Roman worked 25% faster I would be all in.

 

[Tom Servo]

If Roman worked 25% faster I would be all in.

I see what you did there.

 

[hagmania]

If Roman worked 25% faster I would be all in.

I see what you did there.

Pun notwithstanding, I do think Roman has it all to sell a main event match. Then the bell rang today and it felt like nothing happened until the finish.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Has to be Cody or Seth to take the belt off Roman IMO. Only other choice would be to reboot The Fiend but I don't think he needs (or should have) the belt. But I really can't imagine they don't have Cody to be the one that dethrones Roman for at least one of the belts.

Seth has been phenomenal the past many months.

The crowd made Gunther/Sheamus feel like a main event. Never thought would say that about Sheamus again as he's not been booked like that in many years.

 

[Payne]

Crowd was awesome. Feel the belts should have changed hands. He deserves his moment still since he got robbed during Covid.

 

[hagmania]

Has to be Cody or Seth to take the belt off Roman IMO. Only other choice would be to reboot The Fiend but I don't think he needs (or should have) the belt. But I really can't imagine they don't have Cody to be the one that dethrones Roman for at least one of the belts.

Seth has been phenomenal the past many months.

The crowd made Gunther/Sheamus feel like a main event. Never thought would say that about Sheamus again as he's not been booked like that in many years.

It's almost as if (even if you don't like the type of wrestler that Vince McMahon likes) many of their main roster talent are world-class performers and just need the slightest bit of time investment and booking consistency to put on good shows.

 

[DJackson10]

Finished Clash of Castle

Bayley needs the title for her faction to be taken seriously.

Skipped the Riddle Rollins match. Anything with Riddle is an instant skip

Dominick turning was going to happen so predictable thought he'd cost edge ad Rey the match

Sheamus vs Walter and Yes thats not a typo I use Walter was great. Also putting Imperium back together great call there. Best big man match and best WWE match I've seen in a long time on the main roster of WWE. I could've done with either guy winning. Thought it'd have been cool for Walter to at least acknowledge Sheamus for a hard fought battle at the end even if it's a bit out of character and almost looked like he would.

Drew vs Roman felt like ONS RVD vs Cena without all the cursing. and such. Solo Sikoa getting involved was predicted awhile ago or debut on the main roster especially after his "injury" wrote him off NXT. I went back over the last few weeks and watched his NXT stuff and this guy can go. He's probably the most violent out of all of them in WWE out of the Anoai'i family. USO's couldn't travel do to Jimmy's Multiple DUIs. Honestly thought Sammy would get involved but this Solo thing sets up writing Zayn out of the Bloodline.

Drew should've won the Title. Nothing against Reigns but his time has come to drop it. It's bee a good over 2 yrs run and putting the title on Drew with the Redemption angle in Cardiff would've been wild. Have no idea why they keep bringing back this Homophobic clown Tyson Fury. I do think it's funny he got involved with Theory which btw Fightful select wrong again as they reported Fury would be in attendance today but wouldn't be involved physically. Whoops that O for 2 in the last 2 months on some announcements plus probably another thing or 2 they've had wrong. Either way back to Fury, given today's internet I'm shocked people haven't tried to cancel him especially some of the WWE marks. If you look at Tyson's comments and controversy's if you were a business right now I'd be staying away from the guy. Plus the MMA/Boxing cross over with WWE never works. The Boxing/UFC fans think this is gay, ********, fake, etc etc. If anything you'll make your own wrestling fans convert to Boxing/MMA crowd. I think thought the Dan Lambert crossover with AEW has worked though because most of the people they want watching that are the diehards who also watch Japanese wrestling where a lot of those guys have ventured into MMA. WWE just tries way to hard for ratings at times. I get why he was there as he's a UK guy and all but come on you could get better people. Johnny Saint I'm sure is available along with giving some rub to some WWE NXTUK people or any former British WWE people.


Ok that's it on my Drew should've won and Fury rant. I will say the ending was cool with Drew Acknowledging the crowd. One of the things NJPW does right after shows is having the main event winner address the crowd after the shows. AEW seems to do this after their broadcast off air to fans in attendance. I think WWE should start using it for Their PLE's and AEW doing it for the PPVs. Something I've always liked. Lets the winner of the main event acknowledge the crowd after the win and sets stuff up.

It was a good event for their first UK big event in yrs but honestly I think it was lacking to a degree and wasn't worth all the hype other then it being first stadium show in 25 yrs or so. I did like how they acknowledge the Hart/Davey Boy Match. Bulldog was one of my favorites back then with Macho Man before the Austin and Takers and ECW boys came about and WCW with the crossover with NJPW and Lucha's. That match is still my favorite IC title match. All in all I felt something or 2 was missing from this. A few big entrance themes like I thought Drew Walter and Sheamus would all get bigger entrances like a Wrestlemania type thing and didn't. Drew not winning I think they missed an epic chance here and I felt a lot of this PPV from winners was just too predictable It's worth the watch if you haven't seen it but don't think it was worth the amount of hype it got from WWE.

May or may not be attending Extreme Rules as I just found out today I may have a chance early February of going to Milan for a few days with a group so I'm trying to save money and see if I can. If tickets drop to a decent price I may consider going to Extreme rules but already taking off that Sunday for something else plus AEW should be coming this month to Philly I believe which I want to go to.

 

[DJackson10]

The crowd made Gunther/Sheamus feel like a main event. Never thought would say that about Sheamus again as he's not been booked like that in many years.

Vince got tired of him Years ago. He's always been one of Triple H's favorites.

 

[DJackson10]

PWinsider reported today that after the recent events for Patrick Clark AKA Velvateen Dream being arrested on Cocaine possession there's zero chance he's back in WWE. When brought up recently it was in a negative light. This goes hand and hand with info I got months ago that Clark would never step foot in WWE AGAIN. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and had an attitude issue similar to what got him kicked off WWE's reality Contest Tough Enough. The recent legal issues plus the past METOO allegations don't help

 

[DJackson10]

Triple H has also not been impressed with Gabriel Stephenson. Unlike Vince Hunter is not a big fan and Gabriel has not been great training wise. In fact it's been said he takes reps off among other things and isn't taking it seriously enough. There's a chance WWE will flat out release him in the near future or the next round of developmental cuts they usually do.

 

[DJackson10]

Seth Rollins beating Matt Riddle at WWE “Clash at the Castle”, was the first time in 442 days that Rollins has scored a pinfall victory over an opponent on PPV

 

[DJackson10]

“I’m very excited about NXT Europe.
We had huge plans for the NXT UK brand prior to the pandemic. We were about to make some big moves with it. Things happen in life, and as our friend Tyson Fury says, ‘Sometimes we all get knocked down’.
We got to regroup and figure it out. I think with all that behind us, hopefully, the time to make that move is now. We decided to pull back on what we were doing, so that we could advance it to the next level. It was extremely necessary but a tough thing to do.
The long-term goal for NXT Europe, is to be in huge markets all around the world, with a product that can eventually be competing against each other. I’d love to see some sort of World cup-type scenarios feeding into competition with Raw to SmackDown, leading to inter-brand matches at WrestleMania.”
We want to be in stadiums all around the globe doing this kind of event. You’re going to hear all sorts of announcements over the next few years that will be really exciting for everybody that’s involved.
Hopefully, all of you have your passports and stuff in order, so you can fly over to visit us there as well.”
- Triple H (via “Clash at the Castle” post show)

 

[DJackson10]

Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.

I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.

 

[DJackson10]

Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.

I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.

Yep need to get one of the belts away from him at least at this point.

 

[DJackson10]

Um I don't know who the joker is and no-one else does but he's part of Stokley's group. Gonna say they reveal him after or during the AEW title match Mox vs Punk

 

[DJackson10]

Be Elite Be Be Elite Trio's Champs

 

[DJackson10]

Why why why? Please get the TBS belt off Jade please

 

[DJackson10]

Punk's Dog Larry making his AEW Debut!!!!

 

[DJackson10]

Motor City Machine Guns are one of the most underrated Tag Teams ever

 

[DJackson10]

Punk's Dog Larry making his AEW Debut!!!!

And Dax Hardwood's Daughter!!!!!

 

[DJackson10]

Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe!!!!

 

[DJackson10]

Um I don't know who the joker is and no-one else does but he's part of Stokley's group. Gonna say they reveal him after or during the AEW title match Mox vs Punk

Could very be MJF. Ive heard conflicting info from tons of different people that he's suppose to be back soon too no one has heard a thing about him. But the talk was at the latest Around Sept he'd come back