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Jesus Christ on a Cross Clark is ****ed from wrestling again now. First the inappropriate conduct with a minor some other things the arrest recently and now this.

EC3 spoke to Sportskeeda about Patrick Clark aka Velveteen Dream and how the fomer NXT North American Champion has “demons in the closet"
He then went on to share a very disturbing story about finding inappropriate videos of other wrestlers on Clark’s phone at a wrestlers party in Orlando.
“We had a party, it was at my place, and Patrick came over. Even though I didn’t really like him, he was invited because I was trying to welcome everybody.
He left his cell phone in my bathroom. The camera on, and was trying to capture people peeing.
I took the phone, I stopped the recording, I made sure the video of peoples privates were deleted, because this was happening in my own home.”
According to EC3, the phone was positioned next to a soap dispenser so that it could capture people using the toilet. He claimed that he found the device positioned "selfie-style, propped up, on, filming" when he went to use the bathroom, noting that it was set up to absolutely capture people's private parts.
At first, EC3 thought he was "tripping” and kinda overreacting. However, when he finally realized what was going on, he made sure that he put an end to it.

“I booted everybody from the house to avoid having a serious confrontation with him in front of everyone.”
 
Jesus Christ on a Cross Clark is ****ed from wrestling again now. First the inappropriate conduct with a minor some other things the arrest recently and now this.

EC3 spoke to Sportskeeda about Patrick Clark aka Velveteen Dream and how the fomer NXT North American Champion has “demons in the closet"
He then went on to share a very disturbing story about finding inappropriate videos of other wrestlers on Clark’s phone at a wrestlers party in Orlando.
“We had a party, it was at my place, and Patrick came over. Even though I didn’t really like him, he was invited because I was trying to welcome everybody.
He left his cell phone in my bathroom. The camera on, and was trying to capture people peeing.
I took the phone, I stopped the recording, I made sure the video of peoples privates were deleted, because this was happening in my own home.”
According to EC3, the phone was positioned next to a soap dispenser so that it could capture people using the toilet. He claimed that he found the device positioned "selfie-style, propped up, on, filming" when he went to use the bathroom, noting that it was set up to absolutely capture people's private parts.
At first, EC3 thought he was "tripping” and kinda overreacting. However, when he finally realized what was going on, he made sure that he put an end to it.

“I booted everybody from the house to avoid having a serious confrontation with him in front of everyone.”

Whatever dude. Do you have an AEW stream or not?
 
Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.
I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.
Yet, everyone reacts at a different level for every Reigns appearance...phones out, fingers up, soaking it in. There's no burnout until someone gets to his level. I also like the single world champion. Escalate IC and US and make the Universal Champion truly special.
 
Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.
I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.
Yet, everyone reacts at a different level for every Reigns appearance...phones out, fingers up, soaking it in. There's no burnout until someone gets to his level. I also like the single world champion. Escalate IC and US and make the Universal Champion truly special.

Not sure why you are so defensive over this. It's true Not sure if you were around during Hogan or watched but after awhile it got to the point where Hogan was just built up too big where it was impossible to take the belt off of him. It's a booking decision you don't want to get into problem wise. It's obvious at this point that WWE is blatantly desperate trying to figure out ways to keep the title on Roman.

Either way they missed a great chance to build Drew back up and Drew was definitely one of the few guys to take it. Also the Universal title isn't anything special the Old Gold WWE belt is more special then that ugly thing.
 
Um this Press conference after is a must watch. I have no idea if that was a shoot by Punk or what. But he literally ****s on Colt Cabana and TK and says Colt who he refers to by his real name Scott and Vince only ones to make money off of him. Calls Adam Cole a sweat heart. Says Adam Paige went into business for himself and ruined a Milion $ house gate no apologies and beyond that. Calls the Young Bucks out and blames them for making up false rumors to their buddies in the dirt sheets. Calls out Bryan Alvarez as well. He's doing all of this while eating a muffin and then shouts out the company who made it. Not making any of this up. Calls out Scott Colton AKA Colt Cabana for sharing a bank account with his mother. Also says he had nothing to do with Colt being in ROH and they haven't been friends in years.

Punk Leaves and Swerve in Our glory come out in character. Swerve says Acclaim need to drop Billy Gunn and Lee calls out a media member for thinking he's better then him. TK was asked about an audible on the tag match with the Crowd TK tells them thats for a later date only wants questions for the champs. Says GS could be booked for both teams and one of the best tag matches ever. Swerve talks about all 4 wrestlers plus the ref were black in the ring calling it historic and they will continue to do this.

Toni Storm comes on and TK jokes they should bring out Schvioni so they can have the three Tony's. Calls Storm a professional and one he wants to have the Interm belt and also praises Moxley for being a similar champ at a time of need.

TK is texting Chris to come in. Somone asks about WWE contract tampering and TK says he can't comment. Jericho says he enjoyed his match and reminded of his with Eddie Chris and Dean. Says very few guys today you can get in the ring and call a match as you work it and praises Danielson for being one of them. Nick Hausman of Wrestling Inc asked Jericho what he said at the talent media and Jericho responds with he told talent "DON'T LEAK ****" reminding guys where they are and to appreciate it and don't **** it up. TK comments on how he doesn't want to see any talent going into business for themselves which Chris agrees with. Jericho comments how Vince would never let that happen and they've had talent meetings like this in the past but more frequent now. Considering how he said this it sounds more like it they wanted to get back to the meetings they did at Daily's place. Someone asks where Danielson ranks in Jericho's legendary friends and he comments he doesn't rank them he's 1 in a million. Jericho says Mox said they needed a gimmick and Jericho says they do too many ****ing gimmicks together lets have a wrestling match. Credits Moxley with the Lionheart idea coming back and everyone loved it. Chris says when he loses its a great match when he wins 51 years old him people say he's burying talent. Jericho comments star ratings wise this could be his best year ever. TK talks about going to an ECE show at 13 and crowd chanting at Jericho he sold out. Little TK apparently held a sign saying Jericho was the best draw in the world. Jericho points out how you can see TK and his dad at the show if you watch it again. Jericho asked about doing a Fozzy Concert after AEW show. Jericho says it's too difficult to do in one night. Jericho is asked about MJF return loved it and shocked they had the Stones. Said Van Halen wanted 1M and they also tried AC/DC at one point.

TK now with the mic asked about Blacks bow to the crowd. TK says can't comment on it but it was for the live crowd. TK asked about WWE's treatment he mentioned in Comments. Said not getting into it but he's said a lot of nice things to them and about them and felt it wasn't shown to them. TK is asked about locker room tension TK motions to the table "WTF you didn't see what happened with Punk tonight?" TK mentioned when he talked to Meltzer how he referred to the last wrestling boom many of the talents hated one another. TK mentions how it's more apparently now then past given how the world is it's more noticeable today. TK says he is a pretty calm guy and can take a lot hurled at him but it gets to the point where some comments are just too personal and not warranted. Brandon Thurston asked about the pPV buys. Says he doesn't have all numbers but will probably be their 2nd highest All OUT PPV. Mentions how Labor Day they had been only PPV wrestling wise this year 3. Points not a coincidence and one of the reasons that he's pissed at WWE right now. Says if people want to bring the fight he's happy to do so. Has plenty of ideas and lots of $$$$. Was hoping this year would break AO record but happy considering the competition. Estimates will be similar to Double or Nothing higher then Forbidden Door.

Someone asks about Punk's comments earlier. TK calls it dicey situation. Mentions how he feels like the Croketts but with more money and believes other companies try to bully him. Asked about if EVP's roles changed. Praises Trio's match work they do behind the scenes such as Omega with the game and Bucks mentoring people. TK points out how Kenny is a triple crown Champ World title, Tag and Trios in AEW. Little boy AJ asks about Punks dog Larry running on the stage before the show. TK abrubltly cuts all questions off, said he had a lot of fun and hopes to see everyone at the next Scrum.
 
This Punk press conference is more entertaining than the match was. And the match was good. He’s burying the entire locker room.

Sounds more like someone was leaking **** to the media. Could it be the Bucks? I could see it. I met Luke Gallows ex Amber O'Neil who was a bullet babe in NJPW when the Bucks were there. She had a lot of nice things to say but kept saying how some in the group were fake. Everything she insinuated went back to The bucks as well as Cody, Marty and others. Hard to decipher the others she was talking about but I know Cole wasn't one of them at the time. I could also see Punk projecting and not holding accountability there and trying to blow it off onto the Bucks too. Very strange situation. One has to think maybe if Punk was gone from the AEW roster things would settle down. There was never this much drama till he got there.
 
Punk is the greatest self-promoter of the modern era while simultaneously being the most miserable miser that ever miserably mised.
 
The wildest thing about the press conference imo was Tony Khan comparing himself to Jim Crockett and JCP. Buddy you ain't half of that yet.
 
I think Punk was out of line, but right at the same time. I don't think all the rumors about the EVP/Elite guys are ********. Punk gave em a wake up that shouldn't have been aired publicly, but I'm guessing he's delivered similar in private to deaf ears. He made TK look like an absolute *****. Pretty clear Punk views him as the money mark he is. **** it I'm in for the train wreck!
 
I think Punk was out of line, but right at the same time. I don't think all the rumors about the EVP/Elite guys are ********. Punk gave em a wake up that shouldn't have been aired publicly, but I'm guessing he's delivered similar in private to deaf ears. He made TK look like an absolute *****. Pretty clear Punk views him as the money mark he is. **** it I'm in for the train wreck!

If this doesn't end with Punk vs. Colt at AllOut 2023 and Punk/FDR vs. The Elite before then, then this is a huge wasted opportunity.

(I kid, I kid, it does sound like things got more than serious, but then again I thought Fritz VonErich had a heart attack because of the Freebirds when I was a kid)
 
The Elite went into Punk's lockeroom Ace Steel went to the area as his wife was there. No word on who threw the first punch but believed it was Punk so don't worry he didn't hurt anyone. Ace Steel threw a chair at Nick Jackson that could've been career threatening. Ace may no longer be apart of AEW and he's lucky he's not in jail according to people. Adam Paige had left already as he was not needed.

Based on some things I've heard from other wrestlers I wouldn't be shocked by the EP's leaking stuff. Cody said some things when he left about them. Also I talked to Amber O'Neil AKA the former Gallows/Bullet Babe who was Luke Gallows of the Good Brothers wife. She had some good things to say about her ex and Karl as well as Balor, Tama, Fale etc. However she said some of the people in the group were fakes and frauds. Everything pointed to guys like Cody, The Bucks, Kenny and even Marty Scrull who we already know what happened to him. Based on comments she said I don't think she was surprised to see Cody go back to WWE because from what she thought when she was around him was that Cody had every intentional at some point going back to WWE. AEW at first was too good to pass up and start something with people he was friendly with. Also Cody could prove he was more then just a guy in the business because of his daddy.

Considering all of that and other talent confirming this as well as others I can definitely say Punk is on to something when the Elite might be leaking stuff. My guess is they seem to be close to Fightful which is why they've been the first report a lot of the punk stuff. I can agree with Punk there they shouldn't be doing that. At the same time I've talked to people who believe Punk is doing the same as he would do this in WWE.

From what it sounds like Punk has AEW by the Balls right now and he knows he does so he's doing what he wants.

At the same time I wouldn't be shocked if TK is working a shoot here. The Elite are known for trolling people and maybe things in AEW have settled down and now AEW is working the dirt sheets and fans into a shoot just to show they believe anything that comes out.
 
BRAUN HAS RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess Control Your Narrative won't be changing the wrestling world his Braun? I remember when this guy got butthurt on twitter about people making fun of it. Now he goes crawling back to WWE.

I will say I do respect Braun more then others. After a PPV before the pandemic a bunch of wrestlers like Braun, Alexa, Seth, Buddy Matthews, Bray etc went to like a 7/11 store late. Apparently a little girl with her dad went up to Seth and Sasha and both big timed the girl. Braun and Alexa with Buddy saw what happened went over to the girl and father and apologized signed autographs for them and others. Other talent came out and started doing the same thing. Seth and Sasha didn't seem they could be bothered at all to take a few mins. Even if they were in a rush they could've acknowledge the young girl and her father.
 
Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.
I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.
I may be siding with @JB Breakfast Club here, but a nice long Roman reign still has a shelf life. As it stands Karrion Kross could be the next opponent and a totally fresh matchup. Plus, with Stroman going to SDL as a face provides an opponent for RR who is bigger and stronger than him.

Plus, all of you short attention span kids need to experience a multi-year title reign. You guys would have hated Bruno’s two runs.
 
Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.
I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.
Yet, everyone reacts at a different level for every Reigns appearance...phones out, fingers up, soaking it in. There's no burnout until someone gets to his level. I also like the single world champion. Escalate IC and US and make the Universal Champion truly special.

Not sure why you are so defensive over this. It's true Not sure if you were around during Hogan or watched but after awhile it got to the point where Hogan was just built up too big where it was impossible to take the belt off of him. It's a booking decision you don't want to get into problem wise. It's obvious at this point that WWE is blatantly desperate trying to figure out ways to keep the title on Roman.

Either way they missed a great chance to build Drew back up and Drew was definitely one of the few guys to take it. Also the Universal title isn't anything special the Old Gold WWE belt is more special then that ugly thing.
The reason why HH’s reign got tiresome was the fact that he’s the best at playing politics and leveraged that power into making sure he looked good and/or all the attention was on him.
Two examples -
1) WM 4 and Savage has won his first world title and there’s Hogan the party crasher in the ring with him and Liz.

2) WM 6 where he came off the pin at 3.000001 and then “agonized” about giving UW his moment.

Hogan did a lot for wrestling, but let’s not pretend his head isn’t big enough to fit in a lot of arenas.
 
Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.
I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.
I may be siding with @JB Breakfast Club here, but a nice long Roman reign still has a shelf life. As it stands Karrion Kross could be the next opponent and a totally fresh matchup. Plus, with Stroman going to SDL as a face provides an opponent for RR who is bigger and stronger than him.

Plus, all of you short attention span kids need to experience a multi-year title reign. You guys would have hated Bruno’s two runs.
I lived though Hogan's and Backlund's reigns, so I'm used to long-term Champs. You never see Reigns anymore except on ppv. Even Hogan was on every Saturday to hype whatever program he was doing. The Usos and Zayn are doing that work for Reigns.
 
At the same time I wouldn't be shocked if TK is working a shoot here. The Elite are known for trolling people and maybe things in AEW have settled down and now AEW is working the dirt sheets and fans into a shoot just to show they believe anything that comes out.
Dude if this is a work, then it's some next level **** and I'm in for all of it :lmao:

But yeah Ace has gotta be gone. Can't be chucking chairs around like that, if true. That must have been bedlam in the back
 
At the same time I wouldn't be shocked if TK is working a shoot here. The Elite are known for trolling people and maybe things in AEW have settled down and now AEW is working the dirt sheets and fans into a shoot just to show they believe anything that comes out.
Dude if this is a work, then it's some next level **** and I'm in for all of it :lmao:

But yeah Ace has gotta be gone. Can't be chucking chairs around like that, if true. That must have been bedlam in the back
No one here really thinks it's not a work, right? A tale as old as time : working the marks.
 
Also the ending of Clash of the Castle has some fans pissed off enough they were chanting AEW. Which is why I believe WWE had Fury come to the ring and have a moment with Drew.
I like Reigns, I really do. Right now though people are burning out on him like they did with Hogan back in the day. The fact that he has both belts makes it even worse.
I may be siding with @JB Breakfast Club here, but a nice long Roman reign still has a shelf life. As it stands Karrion Kross could be the next opponent and a totally fresh matchup. Plus, with Stroman going to SDL as a face provides an opponent for RR who is bigger and stronger than him.

Plus, all of you short attention span kids need to experience a multi-year title reign. You guys would have hated Bruno’s two runs.

I agree. I have no need to see Reigns lose a match right now. And to be honest, I'm not sure if I would be happy with anyone outside of Cody beating him right now. Watched Worlds Collide and Bron Breakker isn't there yet. Not at all. Roman's 737 days as champ (155 as Unified Champ) puts him in a unique spot. Blows past CM Punk 400+ days (which I'm sure was a goal), but still 300 days away from Pedro Morales and the all time top 5 reigns.

At this point, let him carry both belts to Hollywood and WM.
 
Alvarez and Meltzer said on the radio show they aren't who the Elite is talking too. Alvarez went into the situation and said he'd be surprised to see anyone involved with this ever work together again and something needs to change.

Punk has NUCLEAR HEAT ON HIM> Those who would defend him said he's in the wrong how he handled business even if they agree with what he said. Word is he was the same way in the WWE lockerrom from those in AEW who were there when he left. The problem back then was most agreed and would defend Punk back that but a lot of people were afraid of the people calling the Shots from Vince, Johnny Ace and others. Many who agreed with him didn't have other options to fall on or a plan b.

Some people are saying CM Punk is as good as gone from AEW now and that Punk tore a tricep or something. It's a popular unconfirmed rumor floating around right now. Others believe if Punk doesn't make amends he could very well be gone as well.
 
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But yeah Ace has gotta be gone. Can't be chucking chairs around like that, if true. That must have been bedlam in the back

Now Ace's friend are going after people Sounds like Ace was out of hand from all accounts. My Question though is why is his wife in punk's locker room? Do Ace and him share it? Was she there only till the Press Conference was over? Seems a bit weird for another man's wife to be in his locker room
 
Puke still has infinitely more television value than Balding Bucks and Omega. Puke reportedly may be fired (guess I'll believe it when see it from Money Mark as he's time and again indicated Puke was the 1 guy he wanted to build the company around)

One of the Balding Bucks reportedly "kick down" Puke's door. No word if the imbecile slapped his leg before kicking down the road.

Balding Bucks are the worst thing that's EVER happened to wrestling. Cosplay wrestler ****s
 
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BREAKING: AEW SUSPENDS Kenny Omega, Young Bucks & More After CM Punk Fight. Punk could be either suspended or fired later today.
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This is 100 a work but, assuming for half a second it's not, why wouldn't that crew be suspended? They supposedly 'kicked the door in' 🙄 (if I roll my eyes any harder they'll pop out), and tried to assault them over the media scrum comments. Forget the fact that one of the assultees is a trained ufc fighter, albeit not a great one, (but still enough to beat their asses) and it makes even less sense.
 
BREAKING: AEW SUSPENDS Kenny Omega, Young Bucks & More After CM Punk Fight. Punk could be either suspended or fired later today.
el linko
This is 100 a work but, assuming for half a second it's not, why wouldn't that crew be suspended? They supposedly 'kicked the door in' 🙄 (if I roll my eyes any harder they'll pop out), and tried to assault them over the media scrum comments. Forget the fact that one of the assultees is a trained ufc fighter, albeit not a great one, (but still enough to beat their asses) and it makes even less sense.

Meltzer said this isn't a work and 3rd party legal is now involved
 
TK announces Trios champions vacated

Death triangle vs Best Friends Cassidy

Punk Stripped

Page Danielson Moxley Guevera Allin, Jericho will be in a tourney and Grand Slam will conclude with the AEW Title final
 
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TK has laid down the law

Apparently TK met with CM Punk in CHI and had a constructive convo. No one knows what that means. Ace Steele has been suspended but that doesn't mean he's eventually fired either.
 
Ace Steele isn't the only wrestler biting people these days. According To TMZ Patric Clark exploded on a gym employee before his arrest last month...punching man in face and biting him according to the police documents TMZ has found
 
Another Talent meeting is happening Led by Mox, Danielson and Jericho. It sounds like Mox is being used a veteran leader in AEW.
 
Malaki Black is presumed to have been released from AEW. Word is he's taking time off to handle personal issues. He's starting to cancel most of his Independent dates
 
I don't watch anymore, but it sounds like Punk got hurt and knew he was gonna miss a lot of time, so he went scorched earth knowing that he was going to be out for a while anyway.
 

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