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McGahee has 100 yards more than Fred getting more than 5 extra carries a game. I like Willis as a player and own him in many leagues. He had a better year than most seem to realize. But it seems like every year Fred is close but no cigar and the reasons people give seems to change. One of the reasons used in the past was that Fred didn't play for a winning team. And that likely has something to do with why there's not more of an uproar about McGahee.
I HATE the fact that Izzo didn't make it, he is a best on special teams.
Yeah, he's always a legit candidate. Talking about special teams I think Kelly Washington is turning into special teams demon who could be a future Pro Bowler. I get the impression that he has committed himself to this area and understands it will be a key part of his career. With his size and athleticism he can really make things happen in this area.
I agree and would add the name of Derek Nkang. He been very impressive as a rookie special teamer for the Jags.
and #7? Who?If you're going to laud about your alma mater, you might want to get that math squared away....
Maybe I'll take back my complaints about Ohie State *uckeyes (* does not = B) playing a soft schedule of Kent, Youngstown etc...NOT
How can you argue against the rushing leader though. He has had some, but not many, of the GL opportunities. Sure he hasn't converted the few carries he gets there but how can anyone argue that the guy with the most yards rushing doesn't deserve a Lei?FF Pro Bowl, sure leave him off the list, easy choice. But a definitely worthy NFL Pro Bowler.
But what if he finishes 2nd, or even 3rd? Part of the problem with the Pro Bowl voting is when it happens. FWP could easily end up third in rushing as he only leads LT by 7 yards and ADP by 39 yards(missed some time with injury and now healthy). Sure, the NFL's leading rusher should get some bonus points, but that's 2 weeks away and was 3 weeks away when voting closed.
Here's a list of some guys Matt Light has dealt with this year: Dwight Freeney, Shaun Merriman, James Harrison, Jason Taylor, and DeMarcus Ware. Four of those guys made the Pro Bowl, and obviously Freeney would have made if he hadnt gotten hurt. He was the leading vote getter amongs all NFL defensive players. So, that's basically 5 of the very best DE/OLBs in the league. Light's QB threw for 21 TDs in those 5 games and the team averaged 40 points. He literally had Brady's back all year. The guy was obviously doing something right.
I don't think he was questioning what he did for the Patriots this year, it was more of the method that he used. He is a very dirty player. Watching Patriots' games you can see at least 2 or 3 leg whips each game(most of which aren't called). Anyone that uses this tactic regularly doesn't deserve to be a probowler.
Cmon, man. 2 or 3 a game? He's been called for it once this season that Im aware of. You really think officials would have overlooked 30 or 40 illegal leg whips?? Try and stay relatively unbiased here.
Why would I be biased. I have no reason to hate the Patriots. You can say that I'm biased because I don't want them to go undefeated but that's unfounded. I've watched four Patriot games this year and yes I could count 2 or 3 leg whips in every one of them. Not all leg whips are as obvious as the one in the Colts game. Now I believe he was just doing everything in his power to protect his QB and don't disrespect him for that, but if a tackle needs to use such methods, he isn't a pro bowl caliber tackle IMO.
So I counted wrong. Makes the 50% selection even more impressive.
Only if you're from Kent St.Edited for her pleasure.
I have no problems with DA not getting the nod. I think guys like KWII and Steinbach deserved it much more. Next year is another year and with a bit more name recognition, I expect Joe Thomas, Steinbach and KWII to all be in the running.
It's more a popularity contest, so you have to take the probowl with a grain of salt.
Winslow and Steinbach both should have been in there.
I don't get it, either. Don't get me wrong, Garrard and Anderson have both had great years as well, and either would have been deserving picks, but to say that Roethlisberger didn't deserve to go is just crazy.
So what if he finishes second or third. That's still first or second in his conference and it still means he's one of the most productive RBs in the game. Take away FF for a minute and think about the contribution a RB makes to his team. Just because he himself doesn't score the TD doesn't mean that he wasn't instrumental in the team scoring. If he rushes for all those yards, that means the teams' offense was working and for most of the year Pit was a top 4 lock. I think too many people factor in fantasy production to their expectations. Real NFL expectations and results are different. Reminds me of Alexander taking a bunch of heat for all his short TDs. Like he wasn't half the offense that got the ball inside the 5 in the first place. A guy with 600 yards and 12 TDs is opportunistic. A guy leading the league for 2 years (or one yard shy of it) can't be faulted for getting a lot of short runs for scores because he put them there in the first place. And the opposite is true. Just because a guy doesn't get the ball into the endzone, if his team does, and he put his team in position to score by rushing more than anyone else in the league (or more than one or two others) then that is an extremely successful season and an earned trip to Hawaii.
He's got better numbers than Manning does this year. I haven't seen anyone make a case for Anderson over Roethlisberger, just people yelling "this is BS !"
It's been mainly non-Browns fans.
Yeah, whichever safety got bumped for Polamalu is my guess for biggest snub. Like Polamalu a lot, but missed time, and had a lot of quiet games.
At least Polamalu is still a good player. Darren Sharper lost his skills 2 years ago. He has no business being in a pro bowl lineup.massraider said:
Well, with the lack of any eye-opening play at the strong safety spot this year, voters usually defer to the names they recognize. Sharper is a better selection this year than Polamalu IMO. At least his stats measure up and he's played the whole year.
So why not just send the 3 RBs with the most rushing yards and be done with it? Because TDs do matter, receiving yards do matter, and opportunity does matter. Did the guy that got 400 carries and 1,500 yard really have a better season than the guy that got 250 carries and 1,300 yards? Maybe, maybe not. But if you just make a blanket statement that whoever has the most yards goes, then that debate never happens. By the end of the season there could easily be 5 AFC RBs who had a better season than FWP in my opinion. The fact that he is leading the league in rushing while leading the league in carries doesn't change that.mad sweeney said:
Yes, but Sharper gauranteed that neither Gonzo or Gates would catch a pass if he was in the game.
Oh and he did pick off Orton Monday night...and didn't even try to blow out someone's knees.
I'd bet money that the majority of boneheads that said that are the same ones who, two years ago, said Roethlisberger was nothing but a game manager.
Vanden Bosch over Mario Williams? Can anyone explain the reasoning behind this decision? His pick in the draft not looking so bad now.
Vandenbosch has been terrific
Not denying the fact that Vanden Bosch is having a great year, but stat wise Williams has been better. More tackles, more assists. Vanden Bosch does have the edge in forced fumbles however, 3-2. Granted, the Tennessee/Jets game isn't over yet, but I don't think he'll surpass Mario's numbers after week 16 is in the books. Just my opinion.
Interesting, maybe, but relevant, no. Anderson has not been one of the three best QBs in the AFC this year.
he's got a motor to him that lots of fans(including me) just "eat up". I'm not saying Mario doesn't hustle at all, it's just maybe that caught the voters eyes.I do think it's quite close.When Haynesworth was out, how Vandenbosch got to the QB is shocking as teams were literally all over him. 2 guys plus the back going at his legs. He could have won votes then too.I think we'll revisit this often and are discussing two excellent players.
it's not an end of the season vote. Players not being in outgaining players in, isn't that unusual.Each time I saw Marion I thought he was a brute, runs like he's one of the toughest sonofaguns in the NFL. Maybe it's Alstott's doing from years ago but I've come to appreciate that style.
