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***Official*** Ray Rice to the NFL thread (1 Viewer)
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Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
At 5'9 and 205 bulked up to NFL standards, I bet he's a solid NFL back.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I've had the chance to see him play more than most college RBs, and the kid has the goods in terms of instinct, patience, vision. He has great leg drive and lateral quickness. I don't see his size being an issue, he's compact. Probably a 2nd-3rd rounder if the other underclassmen RBs declare as expected.
Funny how 2 runners declared that could have beat it, Kevin Smith as the other.
Righetti
Footballguy
I'm an RU allum and have seen RR both in person and on TV for most of his college games, Wood is right that he has great leg drive and his body stye will not hurt him the NFL, he is very stocky and not easy to take down.
I was impressed by the following two reasons this year specifically
1) Brian Leonard's departure has NOT hurt his statistics at all
2) He has made HUGE strides as a receiving running back in the 2007 year
I was impressed by the following two reasons this year specifically
1) Brian Leonard's departure has NOT hurt his statistics at all
2) He has made HUGE strides as a receiving running back in the 2007 year
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
I love the guy as an NFL back. Body wise he kinda reminds me of Emmitt coming out.
texasyankee
Footballguy
I am very sad happy
While I am thrilled for Ray I am very sad that RU will lose this talent.
He would be a perfect fit for Denver
While I am thrilled for Ray I am very sad that RU will lose this talent.
He would be a perfect fit for Denver
redman
Footballguy
How's he compare to Westbrook, Wood?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Emmitt's the comparison I like the best.I've also heard some Gore comparisons, but Rice is closer to Emmitt as a receiver. I think that much of his future success will be dependent upon the O-line he gets to run behind.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
i see him as a stonger, slightly less explosive version of MJD.
like MJD, he'll slip in the draft and could end up being the best back of his class.
like MJD, he'll slip in the draft and could end up being the best back of his class.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
That's a bold statement (Best back of his class).I do agree with the slip - probably to Philadelphia in the second round....Yes, I want the Eagles to pick a Rutgers RB in the second round. Deja vu all over again....
super sleeper
Footballguy
Very sad day for us Rutgers alums, but we knew it was coming. With the program growing up over the past couple of years, we have to get used to guys leaving. Unfortunately, he's also taking safety Courtney Greene, our best DB, and his HS teammate, with him to the pros. That's a big loss for us on offense and defense.
As for Ray's NFL prospects, I think the Emmitt Smith comparison is apt. I'm not saying he's going to be as good as Emmitt, but he's a short, solid RB who doesn't have breakaway speed, but is quick, hits the hole hard, and is very strong. He has some intangibles that aren't readily apparent unless you watch him on a regular basis. As impressive as his 90-yard run was on Saturday, with the straight-arm and everything, I was more impressed with another run, later in the game, where he cut to the outside, barrelled down the sideline and then slowed down to wait for the blocks to develop in front of him and wound up with 20+ yards. He's also already developed his pass-blocking abilities, so he's more likely to grab a starter's job from day one in the right situation.
Based on his projection to go in the top 50 picks, Denver at 44 sounds like a great fit, if they decide to cut Travis Henry loose. He's a more talented version without the character issues.
As for Ray's NFL prospects, I think the Emmitt Smith comparison is apt. I'm not saying he's going to be as good as Emmitt, but he's a short, solid RB who doesn't have breakaway speed, but is quick, hits the hole hard, and is very strong. He has some intangibles that aren't readily apparent unless you watch him on a regular basis. As impressive as his 90-yard run was on Saturday, with the straight-arm and everything, I was more impressed with another run, later in the game, where he cut to the outside, barrelled down the sideline and then slowed down to wait for the blocks to develop in front of him and wound up with 20+ yards. He's also already developed his pass-blocking abilities, so he's more likely to grab a starter's job from day one in the right situation.
Based on his projection to go in the top 50 picks, Denver at 44 sounds like a great fit, if they decide to cut Travis Henry loose. He's a more talented version without the character issues.
TLEF316
Footballguy
great College back. I think he'll be a solid pro, but id say its 50-50 for him ever being a feature back. He's tough and runs with nice balance, but I'm not sure he'll be strong of fast enough to make be a difference maker.
On the flip side, I'm really glad he's leaving, because I'm so tired of the Rutgers bandwagon fans out here in jersey. I practically got laughed out of the room every time i said that WVU would run them off the field. I rubbed that one in for about 2 weeks.
No more rushing the field after beating a team they would have been favored over 2 weeks ago
On the flip side, I'm really glad he's leaving, because I'm so tired of the Rutgers bandwagon fans out here in jersey. I practically got laughed out of the room every time i said that WVU would run them off the field. I rubbed that one in for about 2 weeks.
No more rushing the field after beating a team they would have been favored over 2 weeks ago
twitch
Footballguy
Tough news for Rutgers fans, but I'll jump on the Rice bandwagon, though I kinda jumped on earlier this year. He may not measure up with the 40 times and some of the combine measureables, but the man seems to have the instincts and visions of a solid pro. And with how teams run so much by committee now, I can see him being a big part of a 1-2 punch on many a team. Im sure he'll slip into the late 2nd-3rd range, and that team will hopefully be ready to put him to work the right way. He reminds me a little of DeAngelo Williams, who I still think is a nice player stuck in a bad offense right with a team that wont give him the ball enough. There's a long list of teams that could use Rice immediately. Cleveland, Cinci, Philly and Detroit are just a couple of teams that come immediately to mind. And specifically the Browns, with how that team improved on the Oline this year, you put Rice running up behind Joe Thomas and co., complimenting that passing attack featuring field stretchers like Winslow and Edwards, a couple of big kids that can block as well, and I can see Rice making an immediate impact with Cleveland. But as I said, I think he could make a difference on a number of teams.
I looked up some Rice #s earlier this year, and was amazed at the time to find out that he'd never lost a fumble during his college career. And that was a couple of months ago, so that may have changed later in the year. But that's the type of stat I just love seeing. A back with vision and instincts that doesnt give the ball away? Oh yeah. He'll be a valuable assets on Sundays for some fortunate team. Good for Rice.
I looked up some Rice #s earlier this year, and was amazed at the time to find out that he'd never lost a fumble during his college career. And that was a couple of months ago, so that may have changed later in the year. But that's the type of stat I just love seeing. A back with vision and instincts that doesnt give the ball away? Oh yeah. He'll be a valuable assets on Sundays for some fortunate team. Good for Rice.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I have watched a lot of Ray Rice over the past 2-3 years and he reminds me of one particular NFL RB who recently retired and that is Curtis Martin. Rice may not be flashy although 275+ yds rushing and 4 TD is pretty flashy but the guy is a workhorse who can carry it 30 times a game if need be.
To me, after McFadden who i still have a lot of questions about, but after DM, I think you have to take a good hard look at Rice in the #2 spot in dynasty leagues. I have heard that Rice is projected as the #4 or #5 RB off the board for both the NFL and dynasty...I find that hard to believe. I also think what will help RIce is that he has the ability to be drafted by a better team...meaning he might get lucky and go to a team that perhaps has a starter at present but should he get into the line up he will be running behind a decent OLine and that also has a major impact on how these guys succeed at the next level.
To me, after McFadden who i still have a lot of questions about, but after DM, I think you have to take a good hard look at Rice in the #2 spot in dynasty leagues. I have heard that Rice is projected as the #4 or #5 RB off the board for both the NFL and dynasty...I find that hard to believe. I also think what will help RIce is that he has the ability to be drafted by a better team...meaning he might get lucky and go to a team that perhaps has a starter at present but should he get into the line up he will be running behind a decent OLine and that also has a major impact on how these guys succeed at the next level.
When I have seen him play he kind of reminds me of Dominick Davis (Williams) as far of how he runs...they just look a bit a like when they run. I doubt Rice is near the pass-catcher Davis was, but I found similarities in the running. Does that sound like a fair comparison?
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Wow. Imagine him to Denver at 44. That alone could make him a threat as the #2 or #3 rookie pick.I would love it!super sleeper said:
RUSF18
Footballguy
One of the best stiff-arms you'll ever see.
I'll miss him at Rutgers but he has nothing left to prove. Schiano also has run him into the ground over these last two seasons...another year of that could really shorten his NFL career.
The only reason I thought he might stay is with all these guys going this year (and understanding that there's also guys that pop up every year) he really might have had a shot at the 1st round next year even despite his lack of timed speed.
I'll miss him at Rutgers but he has nothing left to prove. Schiano also has run him into the ground over these last two seasons...another year of that could really shorten his NFL career.
The only reason I thought he might stay is with all these guys going this year (and understanding that there's also guys that pop up every year) he really might have had a shot at the 1st round next year even despite his lack of timed speed.
Yeah, I am sad to see him go (my dad is a Prof. there). If he makes it to the early 2nd round, i would not be surprised to see the Jets take him. They have speed in Washington and could be looking to get a more solid guy in there for downs 1 and 2.
Righetti
Footballguy
funny I have always thought he had a pretty solid NFL type body and he looks thicker than 195
Righetti
Footballguy
RR might not have the speed but I was thinking about his college statistics he reminded me a lot of DeAngelo Williams. Great stats but overlooked on the national stage because of the program he played for.. DeAngelo played 4 full years, Rice will only play 3 but their stats when comparing RR Sop-Junion years are pretty close to DeAngelo's Junior-Senior
Ray Rice's
listed 5'9 205 pounds
Fresh 195/1120/5 plus 8/65/0
Soph 335/1794/20 plus 4/30/0
Junior 380/2012/24 plus 25/239/1
DeAngelo Williams
listed 5'8" 210 on pro-football-reference.com
Fresh 103/684/5 plus 5/51/0
Soph 243/1430/10 plus 35/384/3
Junior 313/1948/22 plus 18/210/1
Senior 310/1964/18 plus 12/78/1
comparing only their last two college years
RayRice 715/3806/44 plus 29/269/1
DeAngelo 616/3912/40 plus 30/298/2
Ray Rice's
listed 5'9 205 pounds
Fresh 195/1120/5 plus 8/65/0
Soph 335/1794/20 plus 4/30/0
Junior 380/2012/24 plus 25/239/1
DeAngelo Williams
listed 5'8" 210 on pro-football-reference.com
Fresh 103/684/5 plus 5/51/0
Soph 243/1430/10 plus 35/384/3
Junior 313/1948/22 plus 18/210/1
Senior 310/1964/18 plus 12/78/1
comparing only their last two college years
RayRice 715/3806/44 plus 29/269/1
DeAngelo 616/3912/40 plus 30/298/2
RUSF18
Footballguy
Raymell is saying he was running a 4.46 last year before he was doing any kind of speed training. Now, who knows if that's hand-timed or whatever, but I think if he puts up a sub-4.5 he'll shoot past all the other 2nd level guys. Also says he will try to get down to 193 for the combine.
yellowdog
Footballguy
saintfool
Dead sexy
i agree. i sort of think he could be another MJD.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
i didn't mean it to be too bold, as i made a point to say "could"i'm biased, but i do think MJD is the best back of his class (i'm sure the vast majority would disagree with that).to be the best, rice must fend off the poor man's reggie bush (and others), which i think he cani consider them similar largely b/c both will be written off simply b/c of their height (not really size) and b/c of their running style's.i can understand that teams would want to avoid injury risks in 1st round running backs, but (unlike MJD who's never carried a full load), rice has demonstrated the ability to hold up carrying the load over a full season.this unfounded notion by nfl teams that RBs under 5'9" can't hold up led to a 2nd round steal for the jags and will lead to a steal by someone for ray rice.both have plenty of explosiveness and more importantly have the power and agility to extend their runs once a defender is in a position tackle them. from what i've seen from MJD and rice, their "compactness" is really an advantage. they are hard to spot and hard to get a clean shot on when they are spotted. they also have a built in leverage advantage at every point of impact.i don't know enough about the other RBs to make a bold claim, but i like what i've seen from rice and i certainly don't believe mcfadden will be a better nfl running back than rice.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Guessing he thinks it could mean shaving that extra .05 off his time that he thinks he needs. It worked for Leonard when he dropped from 235 to 221, only to go back up in weight before he got to camp.
super sleeper
Footballguy
Durability and strength won't be the issue. If you watched Rice up close, you'd know that he's one of those backs that gets stronger as the game goes along, and he's never been hurt, despite all his carries. The biggest unknown is how Rice would fare behind a mediocre or bad offensive line. Rutgers line has been one of the best in college football the past few years, and it remains to be seen how much that contributed to Rice's success. In that sense, similar to MJD, he would benefit by going to a good team.
Righetti
Footballguy
absolutely, but in a way Rice might fall into a better situation than McFadden by being drafted later (Big Ben as a QB example)
massraider
Footballguy
Saw 5 or 6 of his games the last two years.
I think he'll be serviceable, but not great.
I think he'll be serviceable, but not great.
