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****Official Reacher Thread (Amz) ****** (1 Viewer)

Poke_4_Life said:
Why did they change the character 'Neeley' from the books to 'Neagley' on the show?  Seems an odd change.  
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They didn't.  Her name is Neagley in the books.

IDK if there might be another character named "Neeley" in one of the books, but it ain't her.

 
Like most, I enjoyed the series in part because of the cheesiness.  But the absolute most hysterically cheesy line was "you have kind eyes."  Roscoe's character might as well have been named "gratuitous sex scene partner."

 
heckmanm said:
They didn't.  Her name is Neagley in the books.

IDK if there might be another character named "Neeley" in one of the books, but it ain't her.
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I think I'm the one who must have mistakenly called her Neeley. Then I wondered if there was a Neeley in addition to Neagley...nope.

"The character of Frances Neagley (Maria Sten) does not appear in the Lee Child best-selling book series until Without Fail. This was not even the second or third book in the series, but the sixth! The book had Reacher contact Ms. Neagley after being asked to perform a Secret Service audit by a former girlfriend of Joe, Mary Elizabeth Froelich.

While Neagley feels like an annual staple of any Reacher outing, she has only been in six novels. Besides the one mentioned above, they include Bad Luck and Trouble, The Affair, Never Go Back, Night School, and the short story, Small Wars."

Reacher stuff

 
finished it today 
never read the books and it was tough to get cruise out of my head for the character 

it was pretty good for what it is 
had the typical cliché moments that are to be expected in these type of shows 
i will watch the 2nd season but it is not OMG hurry up at get here like i was for other series  

 
I know I asked above about Neeley/Neagley.  I thought the book had Neeley, but I was wrong.  And in the show they pronounce it like Neeley, but it's actually spelled correctly as Neagley.  Oh well.  

Finished the series last night.  Will come back here on Friday, after the embargo on spoilers.  

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Like most, I enjoyed the series in part because of the cheesiness.  But the absolute most hysterically cheesy line was "you have kind eyes."  Roscoe's character might as well have been named "gratuitous sex scene partner."
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Well, the number of sex scenes in the show is dramatically decreased from the book.  They basically hump like rabbits in the novel.

 
Joe Mammy said:
Reacher was born in 1960. But the books bounce all over the place. I like the ones where he is back in the Army as an MP colonel.  He takes relish in the fact he can piss off generals with his rank in the MP.

An interesting thing about reading the Reacher series is that Lee Child switches back and forth between first and third person book to book. Reacher first person is pretty humorous.
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They've re-aged him in the TV show to be about the same age (currently) as the character was when the books came out. So, for example, instead of getting wounded in the Beirut bombing of 1983, he's wounded in Afghanistan in, like, 2008, so they're off by 25 years. But, then again, the book was set in like 1997 and the TV show is present day, so they have cell phones and GPS, etc., another +25 years.

 
I thought it was fine! The books are cheap airport thrillers, not high literature. The series seemed pretty faithful to the tone and the character. Low budget for sure, some cheese, cliches... that's the books!

I'm glad they cast someone who looks more like an American Gladiator than like Tom Cruise... that's totally faithful to the books. After all, when Reacher needs money, he digs swimming pools, by hand... he's a mountain of a man in the books. Quiet, stoic.

I thought the lead actor was good. Showed a lot more heart and emotion than just being a meathead. Reminded me of Channing Tatum in that respect, someone who looks like that, you don't expect to have the range, but I thought he pulled it off. 

Mystery was fine. Story was fine. Characters (mostly) made sense. Pretty good. 

 
This is the problem with binge shows that arent weekly release.  Figuring out timeframe to talk about specifics - since its not week by week but I say let it rip

ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE SPOILERS AHEAD 

ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE SPOILERS AHEAD

ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE SPOILERS AHEAD

PLEASE MENTION IT WILL BE A SPOILER

maybe like 

SPOILER:

then text?

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

 
Runkle said:
After all, when Reacher needs money, he digs swimming pools, by hand...
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I remember that. I also remember him working as a bouncer in a Key West topless bar- crushing bad boys.

But when he needs alot of money, guns or both quick he heads to his "ATM" which is the inner city dope dealers. He simply scopes them out, breaks into their lair, kicks ### and takes the cash and guns.

 
belljr said:
This is the problem with binge shows that arent weekly release.  Figuring out timeframe to talk about specifics - since its not week by week but I say let it rip

ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE SPOILERS AHEAD 

ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE SPOILERS AHEAD

ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCE SPOILERS AHEAD

PLEASE MENTION IT WILL BE A SPOILER

maybe like 

SPOILER:

then text?

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD

SPOILERS AHEAD
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Any show that isn't weekly I automatically assume spoilers so I don't even open it or I'll blindly do a :blackdot: for following after finishing. Seems silly to think the show won't be discussed at length if the whole series is released all at once :shrug:

 
Hawks64 said:
Any show that isn't weekly I automatically assume spoilers so I don't even open it or I'll blindly do a :blackdot: for following after finishing. Seems silly to think the show won't be discussed at length if the whole series is released all at once :shrug:
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Someone asked I suggested a week. Week is up :shrug:

 
I say spoil away!!

Mine...

The Mayor death was anticlimactic. Nice she got her revenge, but wanted him to get shot and either bleed out slowly, or bleed and burn to death. There was nice payback in watching the son burn, so there was that.

BTW.. Was the chief detective the only cop left alive in the town?? I was trying to remember if any other cop lived :oldunsure:  

 
snogger said:
I say spoil away!!

Mine...

The Mayor death was anticlimactic. Nice she got her revenge, but wanted him to get shot and either bleed out slowly, or bleed and burn to death. There was nice payback in watching the son burn, so there was that.

BTW.. Was the chief detective the only cop left alive in the town?? I was trying to remember if any other cop lived :oldunsure:  
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Well I'd consider Roscoe still a cop

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I thought it was funny that while the actual mechanics of the criminal conspiracy was pretty twisty, they pretty much flashed a gigantic THESE ARE THE BAD GUYS arrow by 10 minutes into episode 2.
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Oh sure. What I appreciated was that it was obvious the rich guy was behind the whole thing, but as soon as he was introduced, in the very next scene, Reacher says "That guy is totally the bad guy behind all this". They didn't insult us and drag it out, Reacher was onto him just as soon as the audience was. 

 
snogger said:
I say spoil away!!

Mine...

The Mayor death was anticlimactic. Nice she got her revenge, but wanted him to get shot and either bleed out slowly, or bleed and burn to death. There was nice payback in watching the son burn, so there was that.

BTW.. Was the chief detective the only cop left alive in the town?? I was trying to remember if any other cop lived :oldunsure:  
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The only cop left at one point was the dirty one, and Reacher pointed that out, saying "I'm going to buy lunch for the last cop in Margrave," when he pretended that Finlay was crooked and planted the info that he was going to be alone later that night. After running him over, only Finlay and Roscoe are left in the department.

 
What was the total body count?

Population 1200 - I am thinking Margrave does not have the capacity to process all the bodies.

Also - dead Secret Service agent?  How was that place not crawling with Feds immediately?

If you ever buy a car in Margrave - be sure to check the trunk for dead bodies.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Population 1200 - I am thinking Margrave does not have the capacity to process all the bodies. Also - dead Secret Service agent?  How was that place not crawling with Feds immediately?
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You sound almost as analytical as Reacher.

Don't forget, as @Runkle stated most appropriately above. This is airport reading.

And so much fun!

 
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snogger said:
True.. She was fired, but since the chief is dead, and chief detective is in charge, I agree she can be counted.. So two. :thumbup:
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Technically the chief detective was fired too, and I thought he was going back to Boston.

I think Roscoe is out and running for Mayor, and the town currently has no police officers.

 
I did not fully appreciate that Blind Blake was real - from from the early 1900s., and I kept hoping the barber was either going to be Blind Blake, or his son.

:kicksrock:

 
Why doesn't Reacher just go to that stomp on the ankle to snap it move right away?  Seems like it would save a lot of excessive punching.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I did not fully appreciate that Blind Blake was real - from from the early 1900s., and I kept hoping the barber was either going to be Blind Blake, or his son.

:kicksrock:
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I have to admit that the shtick of Reacher being a blues fan and the black guy being into 38 Special and Kansas worked every time for me.  

 
Sinn Fein said:
I did not fully appreciate that Blind Blake was real - from from the early 1900s., and I kept hoping the barber was either going to be Blind Blake, or his son.

:kicksrock:
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The book covers a lot more of the Blind Blake story...one of a handful of differences.

 
snogger said:
I say spoil away!!

Mine...

The Mayor death was anticlimactic. Nice she got her revenge, but wanted him to get shot and either bleed out slowly, or bleed and burn to death. There was nice payback in watching the son burn, so there was that.

BTW.. Was the chief detective the only cop left alive in the town?? I was trying to remember if any other cop lived :oldunsure:  
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She needed to say "You're terminated ****er!".  Totally a missed opportunity.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Technically the chief detective was fired too, and I thought he was going back to Boston.

I think Roscoe is out and running for Mayor, and the town currently has no police officers.
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Well, the town's punks all have a broken hand, so things should be quiet for a while ...until the neglected 116 cows break out and run through town.

Interesting how Reacher took down four true baddies in the prison bath/shower room, but gets taken to near-death in the pool by Kliner's nephew.

 
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tri-man 47 said:
Well, the town's punks all have a broken hand, so things should be quiet for a while ...until the neglected 116 cows break out and run through town.

Interesting how Reacher took down four true baddies in the prison bath/shower room, but gets taken to near-death in the pool by Kliner's son.
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It was his nephew, and to be fair he did have a crowbar.

 
tri-man 47 said:
Well, the town's punks all have a broken hand, so things should be quiet for a while ...until the neglected 116 cows break out and run through town.

Interesting how Reacher took down four true baddies in the prison bath/shower room, but gets taken to near-death in the pool by Kliner's son.
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One thing I didn't like about the show was the lame inconsistency of him dispatching professional killers with efficient ease and then struggling with both the nephew and the psycho son for several minutes in hand to hand combat.  Neither one of those ######s had any formal training yet they were able to get several big shots in on Reacher.

Also Reacher's ability to recover while underwater from a baseball swing shot in the jaw with the crowbar was fairly laughable.  He should have had a broken jaw and be missing several teeth after taking that shot.

 
Jayrod said:
One thing I didn't like about the show was the lame inconsistency of him dispatching professional killers with efficient ease and then struggling with both the nephew and the psycho son for several minutes in hand to hand combat.  Neither one of those ######s had any formal training yet they were able to get several big shots in on Reacher.

Also Reacher's ability to recover while underwater from a baseball swing shot in the jaw with the crowbar was fairly laughable.  He should have had a broken jaw and be missing several teeth after taking that shot.
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Same here... it reminded me of "Roadhouse"..  Swayze spends the entire movie kicking bad guys asses up and down the "Double #####" only to get in a drag out fight at the end with the little Mustang driving weasel...

 
tri-man 47 said:
Well, the town's punks all have a broken hand, so things should be quiet for a while ...until the neglected 116 cows break out and run through town.

Interesting how Reacher took down four true baddies in the prison bath/shower room, but gets taken to near-death in the pool by Kliner's son.
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As mentioned above, the nephew and TBH, that was the only fight that bothered me. The nephew was tiny as well. Crowbar should have been taken first swing and then the fight it over.

 
How did Reacher know that they had Finlay back at the Station in a cell? or did he just get lucky as he went back the to get some weapons? Was also convenient that the cellphone and Baker were directly in line with his vehicle as he drove into the building.

 
stbugs said:
As mentioned above, the nephew and TBH, that was the only fight that bothered me. The nephew was tiny as well. Crowbar should have been taken first swing and then the fight it over.
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As I watched the series I commented that Reacher seemed to get progressively worse at fighting as the episodes went on.  

 
Jayrod said:
One thing I didn't like about the show was the lame inconsistency of him dispatching professional killers with efficient ease and then struggling with both the nephew and the psycho son for several minutes in hand to hand combat.  Neither one of those ######s had any formal training yet they were able to get several big shots in on Reacher.

Also Reacher's ability to recover while underwater from a baseball swing shot in the jaw with the crowbar was fairly laughable.  He should have had a broken jaw and be missing several teeth after taking that shot.
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The psycho son fight didn’t really last long at all IIRC. It was only drawn out because he had the automatic weapon and Reacher ran out of ammo. Once Reacher got the gun loose it was over quick. The nephew part was just dumb. Would have been better to one of the Venezuelans been a stud and helped the nephew or just dispatch the nephew quick with a Leprechaun joke.

 
falguy said:
How did Reacher know that they had Finlay back at the Station in a cell? or did he just get lucky as he went back the to get some weapons? Was also convenient that the cellphone and Baker were directly in line with his vehicle as he drove into the building.
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It’s not far fetched for him to have scoped it out and then decided to do that knowing he was inside the cell.

 
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