Fennis
Footballguy
I guess youre right. heres the actuall poll results. Still an F from Washington.
http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=sportsnation&pollId=4147139
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Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Fennis
Footballguy
Expansion in to Seattle by the NHL is looking more and more likely. The three top choices are Ray Bartoszek, Don Levin and Steve Ballmer-Chris Hansen. It could be announced as soon as June.
http://seattletimes.com/html/othersports/2023010707_nhlinseattle28xml.html
http://seattletimes.com/html/othersports/2023010707_nhlinseattle28xml.html
The General
Footballguy
A hockey team would do well in Seattle. That would have to guarantee a NBA team at some point fairly quickly I'd think.
I'd also like to add that it's nice that dooshnozzle Stern is gone.
I'd also like to add that it's nice that dooshnozzle Stern is gone.
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Can't wait for Seattle hockey. You guys should just forget about basketball since it sucks.
proninja
Footballguy
Premier
Footballguy
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Billy Bats
Footballguy
In another article I read today stated the environmental testing for the new arena won't be completed until the fall and they won't commit on building it until an NBA team is secured, they won't go with just an NHL team alone.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2014/05/13/gary-bettman-bill-daly-seattle-mayor-meeting/9055393/
Fennis
Footballguy
Ballmer buys Clippers for $2B
http://msn.foxsports.com/west/story/la-times-reports-ex-microsoft-chief-steve-ballmer-to-buy-clippers-for-2-billion-052914?cmpid=msn%3Afoxsports%3Aansfox11
http://msn.foxsports.com/west/story/la-times-reports-ex-microsoft-chief-steve-ballmer-to-buy-clippers-for-2-billion-052914?cmpid=msn%3Afoxsports%3Aansfox11
can that be true?
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Fennis
Footballguy
I don't know, lots of owners say there is no way they will move a team and then a couple years pass and then look... they move the team.
proninja
Footballguy
There is no way there won't be a first class building in LA. Now that the NBA seems to be working hard to keep teams in their cities (Sacramento) as long as they pay for a building, I don't see how in this climate a team would move from LA to Seattle.
Though if it did, I'd want to put a statue of Ballmer downtown.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Do the other owners really care? The Lakers surely be very in favor of it. Probably the other CA teams too. Portland probably wouldn't be a big fan, but nobody cares about Portland.
I'm sure it's a little better for the league as a whole to have another franchise in LA than Seattle, but not enough for the other owners to set a precedent of not allowing owners to move if they want. Hell, the league allowed a franchise to move from Seattle to the middle of nowhere.
The owners just want to make sure there's an open market to threaten their own cities with if they need to and they'd still have that if an LA spot was open.
I don't see a move happening, but I don't think the other owners would get in the way to prevent it.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
Actually, could this be Sterling's final "#### you" to the NBA?
Selling to a guy that probably doesn't care that his property becomes less valuable by moving it out of LA?
NBA loses a team in it's 2nd biggest market, and Sterling doesn't have to have his former franchise flaunted in front of his face in his own city.
I doubt the other owners would even care that much, and obviously the $2 billion has more to do with it, but I'm sure he likes the idea that selling to Balmer could lead to the Clippers leaving.
Selling to a guy that probably doesn't care that his property becomes less valuable by moving it out of LA?
NBA loses a team in it's 2nd biggest market, and Sterling doesn't have to have his former franchise flaunted in front of his face in his own city.
I doubt the other owners would even care that much, and obviously the $2 billion has more to do with it, but I'm sure he likes the idea that selling to Balmer could lead to the Clippers leaving.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I don't see why or how the NBA could stop the Clippers from moving in a couple years.
Sterling makes out like a bandit here (bought it for $12 million? Sells for $2 billion???) and all because he privately told hisprostitute girlfriend/mistress to not show up with Magic or any other black guys to any of "his" games.
That'll teach him!
Sterling makes out like a bandit here (bought it for $12 million? Sells for $2 billion???) and all because he privately told his
That'll teach him!
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Fennis
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Four new NHL expansion teams? Vegas, Seattle, Toronto and Quebec by 2017: Report
There are few topics in the NHL that get people buzzing like expansion and relocation do. Drop some morsel of news in the dead of August, and it’s like tossing the last bite of a Shake Shack burger to a flock of pigeons in Central Park.
On Tuesday, Tony Gallagher and Howard Bloom chucked their meat and the flock went crazy. Gallagher said that NHL expansion to Las Vegas was a “done deal,” and then Bloom upped the ante by claiming that the NHL will add Vegas, Seattle, a second Toronto franchise and Quebec City by 2017, the 100th anniversary of the League.
(No word on whether the League will begin an aggressive cloning program to fill out those rosters with NHL-level talent. Protect your comb, Jonathan Toews, they’re coming for DNA samples!)
Bill Daly of the NHL said the four-team expansion is "not in" the NHL's plans. Because what else is he supposed to say...
Gallagher of The Province wrote with finality that the NHL was coming to Las Vegas through expansion:
Sources close to the situation have indicated Las Vegas is a done deal, the only thing to be determined being which owner will be entitled to proclaim that he brought the first major league sports franchise to Sin City.
And given how dead set against a team in the gambling haven the commissioner was 10 years ago, this move into another player friendly state-tax-free zone represents a considerable about-face indeed.
You know, we started getting an inkling that Bettman had changed his tune on Las Vegas when he moved one of the league’s signature promotional events there in 2009, but yes, this is a considerable about-face indeed!
So, in summary, expansion to Las Vegas is a “done deal” except for the fact that there isn’t an ownership group that’s been approved by the Board of Governors; nor is there an expansion fee established for the market that would, in theory, determine who’s willing to buy-in (oooh, Vegas parlance!).
Look, we’re all in total squee-mode for a team in Vegas. Or really any declaration that expansion is going to happen. But the proliferation of this “done deal” report – by Tony Gallagher, no less – is the most Hockey August moment in the history of Hockey August.
For the love of Balsillie, he actually writes “the only thing to be determined” is the group actually owning the team. That’s like writing, “The Penguins are going to trade for a first-line winger. They just need to find a team that will trade them one.”
Is Vegas a done deal? Of course not.
Is it likely? Connecting the dots, one could draw that conclusion.
MGM Grand and AEG aren’t building a $375 million arena to house a Carrot Top repertoire. The NHL didn’t structure its realigned conferences with 16 in the East and 14 in the West to make things easier for Winnipeg. And with the NHL pulling in record revenue, attendance and ratings, the iron hasn’t been hotter to strike for expansion.
But as we’ve noted previously about Vegas: It’s unlike any other market in professional sports. There’s unrivaled competition for entertainment dollars. Many of the people who would attend the games as local fans are working while the games are being played. The largest target audience for the team would be the casinos who fill the considerable luxury box space in the new arena and tourists who pop in to see a game while in Sin City – or, perhaps, get comp’d for one.
It wouldn’t surprise us in the least to see the NHL dive into the market, despite those mysteries, just to be first ones in and because Bettman obviously believes an association with Vegas brings some level of prestige to the League.
But what about the other three teams?
Bloom, of Sports Business News, reported later on Tuesday that the NHL was going full-on expansiongasm by adding every city that it’s considering adding for the last several years. Four new franchises, none through relocation:
“NHL expansion – four teams added by 2017, Quebec City, Toronto, Seattle, and Las Vegas $1.4b in expansion fees”
If you’ve been following the Seattle angle, you know the situation: Chris Hansen – the billionaire, not the predator catcher – has an arena construction deal with the city that hangs on attracting an NBA team; the only hope for an NHL team there first is if Hansen has a change of heart, and Vancouver billionaire Victor Coleman is working with him to that end.
Then comes the real fight: Convincing a city council that has otherwise been apathetic to hockey to turn on the funding faucet for an NHL team’s arena.
Then there’s Quebec City, which will have an NHL-ready arena next year and has no shortage of financial powerhouses ready to step up for an expansion franchise. It’s also been the most public and hubristic bid for a team, otherwise known as the opposite of how Gary Bettman likes to operate.
Then there’s a second team in Toronto, which remains the best idea out of all of these options. Then again, what media conglomerates are left to own a team there? The Score app?
And what level of bribery to the Leafs would it take to even crack that market?
Bloom believes this will happen because the NHL won’t be able to keep itself from collecting that expansion franchise windfall, and that’s as solid a theory as any. It makes sense that the League would expand quickly before losing that expansion money to another relocation (/casts an eye at Florida and Arizona).
All of this makes sense from a timing perspective and, of course, because we understand the League’s avarice. There are still significant obstacles in a couple of these markets, but it’s not outrageous to think it could happen.
Which leaves us with the biggest decisions of all: The nicknames! Seattle Sasquatch, Las Vegas Craps, Quebec Nordiques (‘natch) and Toronto Rakes (the sworn enemy of Leafs)!
There are few topics in the NHL that get people buzzing like expansion and relocation do. Drop some morsel of news in the dead of August, and it’s like tossing the last bite of a Shake Shack burger to a flock of pigeons in Central Park.
On Tuesday, Tony Gallagher and Howard Bloom chucked their meat and the flock went crazy. Gallagher said that NHL expansion to Las Vegas was a “done deal,” and then Bloom upped the ante by claiming that the NHL will add Vegas, Seattle, a second Toronto franchise and Quebec City by 2017, the 100th anniversary of the League.
(No word on whether the League will begin an aggressive cloning program to fill out those rosters with NHL-level talent. Protect your comb, Jonathan Toews, they’re coming for DNA samples!)
Bill Daly of the NHL said the four-team expansion is "not in" the NHL's plans. Because what else is he supposed to say...
Gallagher of The Province wrote with finality that the NHL was coming to Las Vegas through expansion:
Sources close to the situation have indicated Las Vegas is a done deal, the only thing to be determined being which owner will be entitled to proclaim that he brought the first major league sports franchise to Sin City.
And given how dead set against a team in the gambling haven the commissioner was 10 years ago, this move into another player friendly state-tax-free zone represents a considerable about-face indeed.
You know, we started getting an inkling that Bettman had changed his tune on Las Vegas when he moved one of the league’s signature promotional events there in 2009, but yes, this is a considerable about-face indeed!
So, in summary, expansion to Las Vegas is a “done deal” except for the fact that there isn’t an ownership group that’s been approved by the Board of Governors; nor is there an expansion fee established for the market that would, in theory, determine who’s willing to buy-in (oooh, Vegas parlance!).
Look, we’re all in total squee-mode for a team in Vegas. Or really any declaration that expansion is going to happen. But the proliferation of this “done deal” report – by Tony Gallagher, no less – is the most Hockey August moment in the history of Hockey August.
For the love of Balsillie, he actually writes “the only thing to be determined” is the group actually owning the team. That’s like writing, “The Penguins are going to trade for a first-line winger. They just need to find a team that will trade them one.”
Is Vegas a done deal? Of course not.
Is it likely? Connecting the dots, one could draw that conclusion.
MGM Grand and AEG aren’t building a $375 million arena to house a Carrot Top repertoire. The NHL didn’t structure its realigned conferences with 16 in the East and 14 in the West to make things easier for Winnipeg. And with the NHL pulling in record revenue, attendance and ratings, the iron hasn’t been hotter to strike for expansion.
But as we’ve noted previously about Vegas: It’s unlike any other market in professional sports. There’s unrivaled competition for entertainment dollars. Many of the people who would attend the games as local fans are working while the games are being played. The largest target audience for the team would be the casinos who fill the considerable luxury box space in the new arena and tourists who pop in to see a game while in Sin City – or, perhaps, get comp’d for one.
It wouldn’t surprise us in the least to see the NHL dive into the market, despite those mysteries, just to be first ones in and because Bettman obviously believes an association with Vegas brings some level of prestige to the League.
But what about the other three teams?
Bloom, of Sports Business News, reported later on Tuesday that the NHL was going full-on expansiongasm by adding every city that it’s considering adding for the last several years. Four new franchises, none through relocation:
“NHL expansion – four teams added by 2017, Quebec City, Toronto, Seattle, and Las Vegas $1.4b in expansion fees”
If you’ve been following the Seattle angle, you know the situation: Chris Hansen – the billionaire, not the predator catcher – has an arena construction deal with the city that hangs on attracting an NBA team; the only hope for an NHL team there first is if Hansen has a change of heart, and Vancouver billionaire Victor Coleman is working with him to that end.
Then comes the real fight: Convincing a city council that has otherwise been apathetic to hockey to turn on the funding faucet for an NHL team’s arena.
Then there’s Quebec City, which will have an NHL-ready arena next year and has no shortage of financial powerhouses ready to step up for an expansion franchise. It’s also been the most public and hubristic bid for a team, otherwise known as the opposite of how Gary Bettman likes to operate.
Then there’s a second team in Toronto, which remains the best idea out of all of these options. Then again, what media conglomerates are left to own a team there? The Score app?
And what level of bribery to the Leafs would it take to even crack that market?
Bloom believes this will happen because the NHL won’t be able to keep itself from collecting that expansion franchise windfall, and that’s as solid a theory as any. It makes sense that the League would expand quickly before losing that expansion money to another relocation (/casts an eye at Florida and Arizona).
All of this makes sense from a timing perspective and, of course, because we understand the League’s avarice. There are still significant obstacles in a couple of these markets, but it’s not outrageous to think it could happen.
Which leaves us with the biggest decisions of all: The nicknames! Seattle Sasquatch, Las Vegas Craps, Quebec Nordiques (‘natch) and Toronto Rakes (the sworn enemy of Leafs)!
