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shader
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Well this is interesting timing.
They fire Sigi on the same day it looks like the finally landed their key signing that they have been working on all summer
Nicolas Lodeiro gives airport interview, effectively confirming Sounders move
shader
Footballguy
This already happens to a large degree. Team's dont' put their first stringers in for every FA cup game. It's only the later rounds that get full attention.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Argie league didn't have anywhere near the same $$, but it's set up in a way so that relegation happens over the course of a few seasons, rather than stinking it up for one unlucky year and getting sent down (a way of keeping the top clubs always up). Even in THAT set-up, River got relegated a few years back. you never can know... especially the longer you follow the sport.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I think BM has always been a top team... IIRC, Juve goes through runs of dominance, but is always up there.
I've never bothered to wonder why... just assumed it was a money thing, ala the Yankees. Curious what people who pay more attention to off the field stuff have to say.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I thought the whole point was to get the super league teams out of their "boring" domestic leagues?
Kafka
Footballguy
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LAUNCH
Footballguy
How awesome would a Hard Knocks be with Man U this year?
Wayne Rooney - Aging vet. What position will he play?
Zlatan Ibrahimović - Aging egotistical vet signed to score goals wearing #9.
Anthony Martial - 2015 rising star that led team in goals..no longer #9
José Mourinho - After winning league in 2014 for Chelsea he's fired in 2015 in disgrace.
Paul Pogba(?) - $100 million?? Is this the EPL's version of T.O. without the stats?
Wayne Rooney - Aging vet. What position will he play?
Zlatan Ibrahimović - Aging egotistical vet signed to score goals wearing #9.
Anthony Martial - 2015 rising star that led team in goals..no longer #9
José Mourinho - After winning league in 2014 for Chelsea he's fired in 2015 in disgrace.
Paul Pogba(?) - $100 million?? Is this the EPL's version of T.O. without the stats?
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think Being Liverpool already set the bar for that type of stuff. You're not going to get anyone nearly as funny as Brendan again.
Everyone brings up the names in the envelopes bit, but for me, the very best part of Being Liverpool was finding out that Brendan had a billboard sized portrait of himself in his flat. Like a dictator or something. I loved that.
Everyone brings up the names in the envelopes bit, but for me, the very best part of Being Liverpool was finding out that Brendan had a billboard sized portrait of himself in his flat. Like a dictator or something. I loved that.
shader
Footballguy
Kafka
Footballguy
re: Ibrahimovic...not quite sure it's egotistical ...if he is who he thinks/knows he is, than said egotism could be seen as providential, ala Descartes' "I think, therefore I am"...quite telling, & I might be so inclined to agree...if a deity such as TOTTI did not exist. Apples & oranges....
Sorry, gentlemen ...'Twas getting a little too serious in here....
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Eephus
Footballguy
Kafka
Footballguy
jonessed
Footballguy
Man, did he fall off a cliff. He was a huge prospect and did quite well with Blackburn in the EPL as a DM.
He should probably seek a way out of Manchester to revive his career.
Native
Footballguy
Kafka
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Now for something completely different.
I haven't mentioned my co-ed Y team in a while ... Dazed and Confused dropped to 1-2-1 on the season with a 14-1 drubbing tonight. But yours truly was the 1 on a header into the back of the net. Yeh, I'm telling everyone.
I haven't mentioned my co-ed Y team in a while ... Dazed and Confused dropped to 1-2-1 on the season with a 14-1 drubbing tonight. But yours truly was the 1 on a header into the back of the net. Yeh, I'm telling everyone.
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Changes to the Laws of the Game
Some of these we have seen: 1-man kick-offs, for instance. But I figured this was as good a place as any to dump the important ones.
Sort of eliminating the "triple penalty" of Red card/suspension/penalty - now gives the ref the possibility to issue a yellow card in that situation for "accidental" fouls.
As the amendment states: "When a denial of a goalscoring opportunity offence is committed by a defender in the penalty area, the penalty kick effectively restores the goalscoring opportunity so the punishment for the player should be less strong (e.g. a yellow card) than when the offence is committed outside the penalty area. However, when the offence is handball or clearly not a genuine attempt to play or challenge for the ball, the player will be sent off."
Players treated for injuries do not have to leave the field, if caused by a player receiving a card on the play - we saw that this summer also.
Hand-ball yellow cards - reduced to those situations where the handball "stops/interferes with a promising attack"
Referees have been urged to take a stronger stand on "intolerable behaviour" by players following a joint statement by the Premier League, English Football League and FA.
Running to contest decisions, arguing face-to-face with officials, and "visibly disrespectful" actions will result in yellow cards.
Red cards will be issued to players who confront officials and use insulting and/or offensive language or gestures towards them.
Some of these we have seen: 1-man kick-offs, for instance. But I figured this was as good a place as any to dump the important ones.
Sort of eliminating the "triple penalty" of Red card/suspension/penalty - now gives the ref the possibility to issue a yellow card in that situation for "accidental" fouls.
As the amendment states: "When a denial of a goalscoring opportunity offence is committed by a defender in the penalty area, the penalty kick effectively restores the goalscoring opportunity so the punishment for the player should be less strong (e.g. a yellow card) than when the offence is committed outside the penalty area. However, when the offence is handball or clearly not a genuine attempt to play or challenge for the ball, the player will be sent off."
Players treated for injuries do not have to leave the field, if caused by a player receiving a card on the play - we saw that this summer also.
Hand-ball yellow cards - reduced to those situations where the handball "stops/interferes with a promising attack"
Referees have been urged to take a stronger stand on "intolerable behaviour" by players following a joint statement by the Premier League, English Football League and FA.
Running to contest decisions, arguing face-to-face with officials, and "visibly disrespectful" actions will result in yellow cards.
Red cards will be issued to players who confront officials and use insulting and/or offensive language or gestures towards them.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Same as it ever wasArsenal likely to open against Liverpool with Gabriel and Chambers at CB. I'm sure the fans will be happy they didn't over pay for some depth.
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
But we got Rob Holding!Arsenal likely to open against Liverpool with Gabriel and Chambers at CB. I'm sure the fans will be happy they didn't over pay for some depth.
Afraid this knee injury might be the end of the BFG.
There are some rumblings about Arsene being in for Shkrodan Mustafi.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Your Arsenal transfer rumors update:
Icardi: Arsenal appears out of it, as Napoli has jumped in looking to use that sweet Higuain dough.
Lacazette: Arsenal made an offer! 35 million euros! Lyon turned it down. Apparently, Newcastle had bid 37 euros and been turned down last year. Rumor is that Arsene is going to raise his offer 40 million. Which is pretty much the most Arsene thing since bidding Suarez's non-existent release clause + 1.
Center Backs: Arsenal have "made contact" with Mustafi's agent. Apparently also considering Fabian Schar and some buzzing about Jeison Murillo.
Mahrez: Rumors were hot a few days ago. Seem to have cooled down.
Jese: Arsenal "interested"
Icardi: Arsenal appears out of it, as Napoli has jumped in looking to use that sweet Higuain dough.
Lacazette: Arsenal made an offer! 35 million euros! Lyon turned it down. Apparently, Newcastle had bid 37 euros and been turned down last year. Rumor is that Arsene is going to raise his offer 40 million. Which is pretty much the most Arsene thing since bidding Suarez's non-existent release clause + 1.
Center Backs: Arsenal have "made contact" with Mustafi's agent. Apparently also considering Fabian Schar and some buzzing about Jeison Murillo.
Mahrez: Rumors were hot a few days ago. Seem to have cooled down.
Jese: Arsenal "interested"
El Floppo
Footballguy
so you just wait until they get inside the box before hacking them down in a cleverly disguised "genuine attempt" at the ball... got it. regardless- anything is better than what they've got now, so yay.Sinn Fein said:
and about damned time for that and the attacking the ref thing. seems so obvious and yet bizarre that it's taken this long to institute.
Ned
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That in-the-ref's-face rule will be interesting to watch for sure. Might be something the players figure out really quickly and stop doing it, but I'm picturing it like when the changed the balk rule in baseball (90s?) and after awhile decided "ah #### it -- kind of messes up the game and no one's happy".
ETA: 1988
El Floppo
Footballguy
yeah... these rule changes take getting used to on the field. I hope these nimrods don't get it right away so that the worst of them can just get sent off.
I remember at some point in the early 80s they made swearing a cardable offense... even if it wasn't directed at anybody (miss the shot- "####!"... card). I took a lot of cards the beginning of that season. but seriously- #### these guys that charge the ref.
B Maverick
Footballguy
He needs to find a away to not get hurt 20 mins into any game he plays. Seriously. The guy comes on, plays for 20 mins then is our for 2-3 months. Then repeat. A move away would probably be best for him at this point. Sadly he and Smalling were supposed to be the heirs to Rio/Vidic. Jones looked the better player initially then injuries took over.jonessed said:
B Maverick
Footballguy
I am glad they are emphasizing this as its gone way out of control. But with refs like Michael Oliver I think this has the potential to go horrible wrong.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Players are still ripping their shirts off after goals drawing the yellow card......
El Floppo
Footballguy
Players are still ripping their shirts off after goals drawing the yellow card......
I get the sense that guys do it with full knowledge that they'll get the yellow, reserving it for important goals. but yeah- still a lot that draw an early yellow for stupidity* like that, and then pick up the red on some other ticky-tack second yellow foul.
* unless it's CRO. because... well... Gator- tell the people.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think the shirt rule is a good analogy. We clearly have a LOT less of that than we would without the rule. We see it a few times a year. How often do we see the full Tim Duncan response to any foul called? Dozens of times a game. And who wouldn't think the game would be better if that ratio were completely reversed? Shirtless celebrations are delightful.
Kafka
Footballguy
Kafka
Footballguy
"Shirtless celebrations are delightful"...Sadly for you, he emigrated to China...
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Couple of Atlanta coaching rumors
* Twellman said Atlanta is talking to Roberto Martinez
* With Sigi being fired, there is a thought that Boca will bring him in for an interview as Boca played for him at UCLA
While Atlanta probably does not want a retread like Sigi to start a new franchise with, Sigi does bring one of the best coaching resumes in American soccer.
3 time NCAA Champion
2 time MLS Cup winner (with 2 different teams)
5 time US Open Cup winner (with 2 different teams)
3 time Supporter Shield winner (with 3 different teams)
* Twellman said Atlanta is talking to Roberto Martinez
* With Sigi being fired, there is a thought that Boca will bring him in for an interview as Boca played for him at UCLA
While Atlanta probably does not want a retread like Sigi to start a new franchise with, Sigi does bring one of the best coaching resumes in American soccer.
3 time NCAA Champion
2 time MLS Cup winner (with 2 different teams)
5 time US Open Cup winner (with 2 different teams)
3 time Supporter Shield winner (with 3 different teams)
Kafka
Footballguy
HOW DARE YOU!... FWIW...La Liga is even worse, not to mention Barca. I abhore it, but at least Italians are artful in their "hand gesticulations"...the Brits are just god-awful when they surround a ref (looking at you, ManU)...such Neanderthals. "ME NO LIKE YOU CALL, ME TEAM HAVE ALL THE MONEY...ME MAKE YOU MAKE US CL!...(ape sounds abound)...#one objective observer's observation#
Sebowski
Footballguy
Each league will vary how strict they are. It will make for some interesting calls/no-calls in Champions League.
Oh, I should not to the Liverpool and Man U fans that Champions League is a tournament for all the top teams in each European league to compete against each other in. You guys should check it out.
Sebowski
Footballguy
Kafka
Footballguy
Your other boy made #11...between him & "fatfacecrybabynewjuventino"... the Argies could have had another title or two for poor Messi...
B Maverick
Footballguy
Fixed. (not saying United doesn't do it, just there are worse offenders in England) And I hope all teams stop. The captain is who is supposed to be able to talk to the ref. Can't wait for a Captain to get sent off for asking a question of the ref.
