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:rant:  I mean  :pickle: !!!

He is so bad and his last two goals have been both important and poorly taken at the same time.  And listening to the announcers gush over him they have obviously not been watching.  The attack in the first half was so much fun to watch, even Rooney pinging balls all over the park was working with the kids running and showing creativity and skill.  Fellaini kills all runs and momentum.  He has no vision and seems to not know what to do with the ball until it gets to him.  He is a reactionary player not an anticipatory player.  He is no threat in the air as the announcers would have you believe.  IF Mata or Herrera had been in for Fellaini it would have been much much better.  LVG says he wants a quick creative player?  He has 3 that he hates to use (Mata, Herrera, Perreira).  Rooney has lost his left foot.  BUT he did look good in the MF role.  He may be able to work as part of a 4-1-4-1 with a partner in the attacking mid.  He does work hard although he has lost some pace.  His save off the line early was fantastic.  Great hustle back.

On to the final!

In EPL news... United are 5 back of Arsenal and City and have a game in hand.  United have Leicester, Norwich, West Ham, Bournemouth.  Not sure who Arsenal and City have other then each other.  IF United win out, the loser of the City/Arsenal game would be out of the CL spots.  Can United win out?  
No.

 
The top 7 schedule (anyone below Liverpool is mathmatically eliminated from top 4, I THINK):

Leicester (76): at United, Everton, at Chelsea

 Tottenahm (69): at Chelsea, Southampton, at Newcastle

City (64): at Southampton, Arsenal, at Swansea

Arsenal (64): Norwich, at City, AV

United (59): Leicester, at Norwich, at West Ham, Bournmouth

West Ham (56): at WBA, Swansea, United, at Stoke

Liverpool (55): at Swansea, Watford, Chelsea, at WBA

 
Vardy got an extra game.  Out for ManU.
There was no way he was getting out of that.  The original yellow could have gone either way, but it was a done deal when it happened.  The aftermath was all on Vardy and he deserved the extra game for it.

 
This new board is a pain in the ### to copy and paste.  I want my access to the source!

Three weeks left in the Bundesliga:

Bayern 26-3-2 81 74-14 60
Dortmund 23-5-3 74 75-30 45


A Bayern win or a Dortmund loss and Bayern clinch.

The third CL Group Stage spot is possible for five, down from seven:
 

Leverkusen 16-6-9 54 50-35 15
Berlin 14-7-10 49 40-38 2
M'Gladbach 15-3-13 48 62-48 14
Mainz 13-6-12 45 43-41 2
Schalke 13-6-12 45 43-46 -3


If the season ended today, Leverkusen are CL Group Stage.  Berlin would be CL Playoff Round.
M'Gladbach - Europa Group Stage, Mainz - Europa 3rd Qualifying Round, and Schalke would be in Europa, but not sure which stage.

Hannover is relegated, ending a 14 year run in the top table.
There are still 10 teams mathematically in Relegation danger.

 
Here's an excellent explainer video about what happened at Hillsborough.  I'd never seen or heard that there were gates at the top of each pen letting people move from one to the other.

I've always admired the persistence and dignity of the families who lost someone.  27 years is a long time to fight for a cause and I think it says something awful that the 2012 report and today's verdict took so long, but also something life affirming that truth and justice won out in the end.

 
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It was not that long ago that you could not give away MLS teams for free.  Now you have billionaires from multiple cities fighting for a team.  Here is the latest

{Gores owns the Pistons and Gilbert owns the Cavs.  Gilbert is was born in Detroit }

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine



http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine
Sources tell ESPN that the Tom Gores/Dan Gilbert bid for an MLS team in Detroit includes plans for a new downtown soccer-specific stadium 12m


 

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