***OFFICIAL*** Sons of Anarchy Thread (7 Viewers)

[Radio Free Homer]

How Tig snuffs it. [not really a spoiler]

 

[5Rings]

Almost page 4? Wow. Wind has really gone out the sails of this series, I guess.Just rewatched Tuesday's episode. One big thing: I hate Tara. I hated her before and I hate her even more now. Why? She's a hypocrite. Gemma can't be around her kids because she smells weed in her breath, and yet, Tara's picked up the grass herself. Huh?

Of course there's also the very subtle signs that Tara is turning into Gemma...the hair, the clothes etc. People may not have picked up on it because it was done very discreetly.

RIP, strong side left opie

 

[5Rings]

Will whatsherface take Ope's kids or will his mom actually step up?

She got killed by Tig/Clay.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Will whatsherface take Ope's kids or will his mom actually step up?

She got killed by Tig/Clay.

I think he meant Opie's Mom. He had told Lila that if she wouldn't take the kids he'd have to leave them with his Mom.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

Half-Sack - WTF?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

It doesn't seem like much of a mystery...

 

[Thunderlips]

While on the topic of the guards, how do they expect to clean this up? An inmate is suddenly dead? How do you explain the blunt-force trauma blows that cracked the back of the guy's head open from the autopsy? If Pope's running things, how isn't this done in an easier-to-conceal manner than having some dopey guards betting $20 on a gladiator-style fight that leaves a lot of questions behind?

There was a fight....a prisoner got killed....and noone saw nuttin.

 

[Christo]

The 9er who actually did the deed was one of the biggest guys I have ever seen

There definitely seemed to be some agreement that he was batting "clean-up."I'm aware of the gladiator scandals in CA prisons, I guess in the cast of SOA, it's a matter of whether they pursue legal action against the guards. Maybe it doesn't go anywhere, but the fact that you have people who witnessed it, and those accounts are going to inevitably be consistent with an autopsy, could cause an issue. My whole point is that it doesn't really jibe with Pope's MO, as it's needlessly sloppy to stage a gladiator fight instead of just having some mope stab him and make it look like a prisoner/prisoner beef.

Has someone hijacked your account or are you

 

[Christo]

Almost page 4? Wow. Wind has really gone out the sails of this series, I guess.Just rewatched Tuesday's episode. One big thing: I hate Tara. I hated her before and I hate her even more now. Why? She's a hypocrite. Gemma can't be around her kids because she smells weed in her breath, and yet, Tara's picked up the grass herself. Huh?

Of course there's also the very subtle signs that Tara is turning into Gemma...the hair, the clothes etc. People may not have picked up on it because it was done very discreetly.

RIP, strong side left opie

Opie played the middle. Avon Barksdale was strong side.

 

[Brady Marino]

Almost page 4? Wow. Wind has really gone out the sails of this series, I guess.Just rewatched Tuesday's episode. One big thing: I hate Tara. I hated her before and I hate her even more now. Why? She's a hypocrite. Gemma can't be around her kids because she smells weed in her breath, and yet, Tara's picked up the grass herself. Huh?

Of course there's also the very subtle signs that Tara is turning into Gemma...the hair, the clothes etc. People may not have picked up on it because it was done very discreetly.

RIP, strong side left opie

Opie played the middle. Avon Barksdale was strong side.

Opie having a mini-Sean Bean (Alec in Goldeneye, Eddard Stark in Game of Thrones) career...seems like he always dies in whatever he's in.

 

[Charlie Frown]

While on the topic of the guards, how do they expect to clean this up? An inmate is suddenly dead? How do you explain the blunt-force trauma blows that cracked the back of the guy's head open from the autopsy? If Pope's running things, how isn't this done in an easier-to-conceal manner than having some dopey guards betting $20 on a gladiator-style fight that leaves a lot of questions behind?

I doubt "guard induced gladiator games" will be on the autopsy report.

But you have a dead inmate with the back of his skull broken open. Just seems like if someone wanted to pursue his death (and people on the outside will obviously have knowledge of what went down), then any story of how Opie was (presumably) killed by another prisoner would have to be pretty carefully constructed.

The way they were beating on him with the pipe (after the fatal blow) makes me think there won't be much left. Definitely closed casket.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The 9er who actually did the deed was one of the biggest guys I have ever seen

There definitely seemed to be some agreement that he was batting "clean-up."I'm aware of the gladiator scandals in CA prisons, I guess in the cast of SOA, it's a matter of whether they pursue legal action against the guards. Maybe it doesn't go anywhere, but the fact that you have people who witnessed it, and those accounts are going to inevitably be consistent with an autopsy, could cause an issue. My whole point is that it doesn't really jibe with Pope's MO, as it's needlessly sloppy to stage a gladiator fight instead of just having some mope stab him and make it look like a prisoner/prisoner beef.

Has someone hijacked your account or are you

Uhhhh...hijacked?

 

[beer 302]

Just saw the episode last night, WOW. Have to go back in here and read thru the comments but even knowing it was coming (thank you Jaysus for that spoiler earlier in the week ) it was still brutal to watch. I know it's a show but that one really made me feel for the characters, great episode. RIP Ope, was hoping he & Jax would rescue the club together but it wasn't to be. Wow

 

[beer 302]

Well that was disturbing. But my revenge thirst is much higher than season 2 now.

Anyone else hoping that pope and the guard end up in the box by seasons end?

Yes on both counts.

 

[bryhamm]

So I am finally watching the last episode and we had some heavy rain when it recorded and a few spots are choppy in my ep. Unfortunately, one was when the guards walked in and asked them if they decided. Next I see is Opie getting his but kicked. So, how was it actually "decided" that it was Op?

 

[Brady Marino]

So I am finally watching the last episode and we had some heavy rain when it recorded and a few spots are choppy in my ep. Unfortunately, one was when the guards walked in and asked them if they decided. Next I see is Opie getting his but kicked. So, how was it actually "decided" that it was Op?

Opie nailed the head guard and gave him a bloody nose. Jax, Tig, and Chibbs tried to restrain him, but the guards decided it was Opie because of the assault.Pretty obvious that Opie had a death wish. Donna and Piney, the two he loved the most in life (besides his kids...I guess) died at the hands of the MC. And he's not really talking to his current wife. He decided he had enough and was the logical one to take the fall of the four.

 

[GTBilly]

"I got this"

 

[Good Posting Judge]

"Ridin' through this world, all alone."

-Jack Teller

 

[Steve Tasker]

Forgot to DVR the episode this past week but haven't seen a replay of it on. Does anyone know if it's going t be on?

 

[Mile High]

Forgot to DVR the episode this past week but haven't seen a replay of it on. Does anyone know if it's going t be on?

I think they show the newest one twice then re-show the one from the week before. So Tuesday night they will show ep 4 twice and then ep 3. Check your TV listings.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Forgot to DVR the episode this past week but haven't seen a replay of it on. Does anyone know if it's going t be on?

I think they show the newest one twice then re-show the one from the week before. So Tuesday night they will show ep 4 twice and then ep 3. Check your TV listings.

It appears you are correct. I've set it to DVR now. Thanks

 

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Finally current.

Please tell me Gemma and Clay are going to be dead soon.

 

[Goat Herders]

Good episode, primarily to set up some future stuff. Jax back to being a sissy.

 

[pollardsvision]

I love Tara, but I'm sorry, the madame would've whooped her ###.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Jax back to being a sissy.

Can you unpack this a bit?

 

[Beerguzzler]

I was hoping to see more of Ashley Tisdale's ###. What a shame.

Hard core when the hooker got her head beat in with a cast.

 

[GTBilly]

Was a horrible episode. The last 7 minutes were decently written but a disjointed cluster. I love the show but it seems like Sutter let someone else write this episode. You can say it's all setup for the rest of the season but it was crap. Even as filler it should've been done better.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

That song during the chase scene was the worst thing I've ever heard.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Those two kids on the bikes were just like Jax and Opie.

 

[belljr]

So it wasnt dusty? Me neither

 

[AcerFC]

I thought it was a very weak episode after one of the best.

Is anyone else picking up on the new accent Jax appears to have picked up. I know he is Australian or British BUT I have not heard it til this season

 

[Max Power]

This week was crap. I really can't stand the female issues in this show anymore. Its the SAME crap over and over.

I have faith the storyline with Pope is going to be good, but right now Season 5 is just bad.

 

[johnnycakes]

Losing momentum after such a great start. They're actually going to pay the black gang $50k? Now that's Jax back to being a sissy.

 

[belljr]

Losing momentum after such a great start. They're actually going to pay the black gang $50k? Now that's Jax back to being a sissy.

That was part of the negotiation in the wardens office...I enjoyed the episode for the awesome over the top cheesiness it is

 

[Copeman]

Filler episode. Usually these kinds of episodes are springboards for an awesome episode.

I too, wished to see more of Tisdales behind. Nice 10 second or so side view, but I wanted more.

 

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Is anyone else picking up on the new accent Jax appears to have picked up.

YES. It's VERY noticeable coming from someone who has plowed through from the pilot to last night's episode in 3 weeks or so.

 

[[icon]]

This week was crap. I really can't stand the female issues in this show anymore. Its the SAME crap over and over.

THISJemma just needs to die. Her manipulating ####ups are just getting old.....very very very old. Even the GF was saying how the only purpose in this show the women serve is to #### things up for the guys to have to run around and fix.

 

[pollardsvision]

I laughed a couple of times last night from the unintentional comedy. I've defended this show many times and I'm far from a film/TV snob, but this thing might be coming off the rails. Or maybe it was always off the rails and I just never noticed.

The acting feels so bad sometimes it's uncomfortable to watch.

Maybe it was his time to go, but the show desperately misses Piney.

He was great on-screen, but I also appreciated his perspective as a link to the past. The club backstory is why I actually liked the Ireland stuff and the letter drama. All that stuff is gone this year, and I think that's hurting. Without the club backstory stuff, all they've got is the 2-bit biker gang trying to get out bad predicament's. That's fine and works in big moments (like last week), but I'm not sure it's enough.

They've replaced Piney and all backstory with more girl drama. Obviously, not a good trade off.

While we're at it, could they not have come up with a better occupation for Tara than surgeon?

I mean, this all already a little hard to buy, but surgeon? (not to mention 2 surgeons on the show that have spent time as biker ol' lady's).

You can pull off the "hey, look, she's in love with a biker, but she's also a productive member of legitimate society too" without going overboard here with something like, you know, neonatal surgeon. They could've made her a nurse and kept the entire storyline largely the same. There are plenty of wonderful, hard scrabble nurses that might've conceivably fallen for an outlaw biker.

 

[Limp Ditka]

If I had a peso for every time a couple of pendejos demanded a hookers severed thumb and ### from me

It was like the writers of this show had a window into my soul.

 

[pollardsvision]

Oh, can we assume now that it was Jax that ratted out the brothel?

While I'm complaining, that was insane.

Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

It seemed like he wasn't having much trouble finding girls or proper real estate before.

He's basically giving Jax half his money to consult him in an industry he's the expert on and Jax doesn't know jack about.

His answer to Jax should've been "Jax, you seem like a decent kid, but I had a pretty good handle on this thing until your whore mother seduced me. Next think I know, my dream set-up is housing fugitives, old perverts are stalking the place, my best earners are getting curb stomped, and the cops are busting down my door. If you don't mind, I think I'll move on without your 'help'".

Smits seems like a smart fella, so I think he'd at least suspect that the person that ratted him out might be the only person looking to profit from the situation.

Guess it had to happen and I'm glad they are keeping Smits involved. I like him and Jax working together. The deal just didn't seem to make much sense for Smits.

 

[belljr]

I laughed a couple of times last night from the unintentional comedy. I've defended this show many times and I'm far from a film/TV snob, but this thing might be coming off the rails. Or maybe it was always off the rails and I just never noticed.

The acting feels so bad sometimes it's uncomfortable to watch.

Maybe it was his time to go, but the show desperately misses Piney.

He was great on-screen, but I also appreciated his perspective as a link to the past. The club backstory is why I actually liked the Ireland stuff and the letter drama. All that stuff is gone this year, and I think that's hurting. Without the club backstory stuff, all they've got is the 2-bit biker gang trying to get out bad predicament's. That's fine and works in big moments (like last week), but I'm not sure it's enough.

They've replaced Piney and all backstory with more girl drama. Obviously, not a good trade off.

While we're at it, could they not have come up with a better occupation for Tara than surgeon?

I mean, this all already a little hard to buy, but surgeon? (not to mention 2 surgeons on the show that have spent time as biker ol' lady's).

You can pull off the "hey, look, she's in love with a biker, but she's also a productive member of legitimate society too" without going overboard here with something like, you know, neonatal surgeon. They could've made her a nurse and kept the entire storyline largely the same. There are plenty of wonderful, hard scrabble nurses that might've conceivably fallen for an outlaw biker.

It's always been this way... Some awesome acting scenes intertwined with over the top unintentional comedy, imo.The surgeon thing is ok, since she left Charming to get away.

Oh, can we assume now that it was Jax that ratted out the brothel?

While I'm complaining, that was insane.

Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

It seemed like he wasn't having much trouble finding girls or proper real estate before.

He's basically giving Jax half his money to consult him in an industry he's the expert on and Jax doesn't know jack about.

His answer to Jax should've been "Jax, you seem like a decent kid, but I had a pretty good handle on this thing until your whore mother seduced me. Next think I know, my dream set-up is housing fugitives, old perverts are stalking the place, my best earners are getting curb stomped, and the cops are busting down my door. If you don't mind, I think I'll move on without your 'help'".

Smits seems like a smart fella, so I think he'd at least suspect that the person that ratted him out might be the only person looking to profit from the situation.

Guess it had to happen and I'm glad they are keeping Smits involved. I like him and Jax working together. The deal just didn't seem to make much sense for Smits.

Pretty sure Smitts or the Madame, ratted himself out if it wasn't Clay.

 

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While I'm complaining, that was insane. Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

 

[pollardsvision]

While I'm complaining, that was insane. Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

Oh, I didn't catch that he was giving him a stake in the porn business. I thought he was just going to let him recruit some of the porn girls to do some do some escorting on the side.

 

[belljr]

While I'm complaining, that was insane.

Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

Oh, I didn't catch that he was giving him a stake in the porn business. I thought he was just going to let him recruit some of the porn girls to do some do some escorting on the side.

He is but a "pornstar" product has a higher markup

 

[Max Power]

While I'm complaining, that was insane. Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

not to nitpick, but I would think the amount of business lost from jacking your rates up that much would just offset difference anyway.

 

[pollardsvision]

While I'm complaining, that was insane.

Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

Oh, I didn't catch that he was giving him a stake in the porn business. I thought he was just going to let him recruit some of the porn girls to do some do some escorting on the side.

He is but a "pornstar" product has a higher markup

I'm no expert in the poon biz, but is a 500% markup realistic?If I could pay $300 for the Disney girl, I'm not sure I'd pay $1500 for a porn star (caveat, of course, is that I doubt there are many $300 hookers as hot as the Disney girl).

I do remember, in college, that I did see Jasmine St. Clair headlining at a strip club. That was pretty awesome even though I'd just seen her record-breaking video. Then again, she didn't steal anymore money from me than any other stripper (although, I didn't go to the champagne room either).

 

[belljr]

While I'm complaining, that was insane.

Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

Oh, I didn't catch that he was giving him a stake in the porn business. I thought he was just going to let him recruit some of the porn girls to do some do some escorting on the side.

He is but a "pornstar" product has a higher markup

I'm no expert in the poon biz, but is a 500% markup realistic?If I could pay $300 for the Disney girl, I'm not sure I'd pay $1500 for a porn star (caveat, of course, is that I doubt there are many $300 hookers as hot as the Disney girl).

I do remember, in college, that I did see Jasmine St. Clair headlining at a strip club. That was pretty awesome even though I'd just seen her record-breaking video. Then again, she didn't steal anymore money from me than any other stripper (although, I didn't go to the champagne room either).

Of course it is, you got hookers on the point and you have Ashley Dupree making boatloads. Or Tigers Loredana Jolie. As far as girls featuring, I'm sure there was a cover charge that is not normally in place, and there is a reason these girls go on the feature circuit.

 

[Limp Ditka]

While I'm complaining, that was insane.

Why in the world would Smits take that deal? For a list of porn stars? A real estate recommendation?

If you have a business where you sell a $300-400 product with a 25% take and someone offers you a line of products you can carry that are 1500-4000 products but you only get 12.5%.... it's still a great deal. Instead of making 75-100 bucks from his girls, he's not clearing 175-500 bucks from Jax's girls. Not to mention he's already made it clear that he likes having "protection" in the form of gang alliances.

Oh, I didn't catch that he was giving him a stake in the porn business. I thought he was just going to let him recruit some of the porn girls to do some do some escorting on the side.

He is but a "pornstar" product has a higher markup

I'm no expert in the poon biz, but is a 500% markup realistic?If I could pay $300 for the Disney girl, I'm not sure I'd pay $1500 for a porn star (caveat, of course, is that I doubt there are many $300 hookers as hot as the Disney girl).

I do remember, in college, that I did see Jasmine St. Clair headlining at a strip club. That was pretty awesome even though I'd just seen her record-breaking video. Then again, she didn't steal anymore money from me than any other stripper (although, I didn't go to the champagne room either).

Of course it is, you got hookers on the point and you have Ashley Dupree making boatloads. Or Tigers Loredana Jolie. As far as girls featuring, I'm sure there was a cover charge that is not normally in place, and there is a reason these girls go on the feature circuit.

Raider Nation alias?

 

[Marvin]

That song during the chase scene was the worst thing I've ever heard.

Those two kids on the bikes were just like Jax and Opie.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

jacking

Heh heh.