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***OFFICIAL*** Steelers 2009 Thread (1 Viewer)
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Golden Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
From the Browns thread "BROWNS THREAD 2009 at least we're not Detroit"
How pathetic.
How pathetic.
Charles Robinson on Yahoo Sports had this to say on his Twitter feed this AM:
Don't discount buzz about Casey Hampton potentially being chopped by Steelers. It's legit. His offseason work habits have worn on the staff.
Don't discount buzz about Casey Hampton potentially being chopped by Steelers. It's legit. His offseason work habits have worn on the staff.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
No way they cut Hampton. Hoke is a definite downgrade and Hood is too raw and too slight to handle the NT spot as of yet. I'd be stunned if this happens.
Steeler
Footballguy
Agreed. Those might be the exact reasons the Steelers won't sign him next year (someone will pay more), but I'd be totally shocked if they cut him now.... I just don't see it.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
He showed up for TC this year at his lowest weight as a Steeler, IIRC. Not sure where Yahoo's getting their info about his work habits. Maybe they're reading last year's Post-Gazette?Charles Robinson on Yahoo Sports had this to say on his Twitter feed this AMon't discount buzz about Casey Hampton potentially being chopped by Steelers. It's legit. His offseason work habits have worn on the staff.
Sounds like he may have got the message by getting PUP'd for not being able to complete the run last season to me.Ed Bouchette basically said in a report from earlier today that there's no way in the nine hells Hampton gets cut. He reported in the same article that both Hammy and LeBeau openly laughed at the suggestion when he brought up the rumor.Ed went on to outline how the Steelers have been scheming more plays for the dime package where Casey is kept in there as one of the DTs in shorter passing situations. Apparently, last year some teams would come out on 2nd/3rd downs in the spread or shotgun to get Hammy off the field and then they'd audible to a run. LeBeau's trying to limit that by keeping Hampton out there more than in the past.Bouchette's words were something like "Does that sound like something a team would be doing for a guy they didn't plan to keep around?" Sure doesn't to me.Next year is a completely different animal. I don't see a way they can keep him. They aren't going to tag him, and with the amount of teams that are moving to the 3-4 he is going to have a LARGE dump truck full of money driven up to his house. The Steelers aren't going to do that for a 32-going-on-33-year-old fat guy, no matter how good he still may be. Which is a big concern for me, because they have NO ONE that can control the nose like he can. Over the years people have liked to swing from Chris Hoke's junk an awful lot, but Chris Hoke is what he is.....a really, really good backup. Yeah, he had a nice run back in '04 or '05 whenever it was that Casey got hurt, but he's not exactly 24 either. If it comes to it, they cannot be comfortable going into 2010 with Hoke as the only option at noseguard, nor should they be.They've almost painted themselves into a corner with Casey. They can't really afford to lose him yet, but they can't afford to pay what it'll take to keep a guy of his age/carriage either. The collegiate guys that could potentially "step right in" in year one are likely to be long, long gone by the time the Steelers select in next year's draft. FA has never been a real area the Steelers go to find replacements for starters either(even if any will be available).Unless they think Ziggy can bulk up and make the move, they are probably going to have to do some fancy footwork come the end of 2009 to address the nose.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Why couldn't they tag him? Or is next season the year without the CBA? Even if they couldn't afford him I'm sure they could get something in a trade.He showed up for TC this year at his lowest weight as a Steeler, IIRC. Not sure where Yahoo's getting their info about his work habits. Maybe they're reading last year's Post-Gazette?Charles Robinson on Yahoo Sports had this to say on his Twitter feed this AMSounds like he may have got the message by getting PUP'd for not being able to complete the run last season to me.Ed Bouchette basically said in a report from earlier today that there's no way in the nine hells Hampton gets cut. He reported in the same article that both Hammy and LeBeau openly laughed at the suggestion when he brought up the rumor.Ed went on to outline how the Steelers have been scheming more plays for the dime package where Casey is kept in there as one of the DTs in shorter passing situations. Apparently, last year some teams would come out on 2nd/3rd downs in the spread or shotgun to get Hammy off the field and then they'd audible to a run. LeBeau's trying to limit that by keeping Hampton out there more than in the past.Bouchette's words were something like "Does that sound like something a team would be doing for a guy they didn't plan to keep around?" Sure doesn't to me.Next year is a completely different animal. I don't see a way they can keep him. They aren't going to tag him, and with the amount of teams that are moving to the 3-4 he is going to have a LARGE dump truck full of money driven up to his house. The Steelers aren't going to do that for a 32-going-on-33-year-old fat guy, no matter how good he still may be. Which is a big concern for me, because they have NO ONE that can control the nose like he can. Over the years people have liked to swing from Chris Hoke's junk an awful lot, but Chris Hoke is what he is.....a really, really good backup. Yeah, he had a nice run back in '04 or '05 whenever it was that Casey got hurt, but he's not exactly 24 either. If it comes to it, they cannot be comfortable going into 2010 with Hoke as the only option at noseguard, nor should they be.They've almost painted themselves into a corner with Casey. They can't really afford to lose him yet, but they can't afford to pay what it'll take to keep a guy of his age/carriage either. The collegiate guys that could potentially "step right in" in year one are likely to be long, long gone by the time the Steelers select in next year's draft. FA has never been a real area the Steelers go to find replacements for starters either(even if any will be available).Unless they think Ziggy can bulk up and make the move, they are probably going to have to do some fancy footwork come the end of 2009 to address the nose.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
If it makes you feel better, replace "can't" with "won't." It amounts to the same thing. It's not the way they operate. The Steelers hardly ever use the tag to begin with, I'd doubt they'd burn it on a 32 year old big guy with 10 years worth of wear on his chubby knees, no matter how badly they need him. Stranger things, etc., etc. I suppose, but I'm not holding my breath on it.My prediction: They'll tag Reed before they tag Hampton.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
What are you talking about? Jeff Reed is clearly sober as a friggin' judge there. Who doesn't go around shirtless, wearing dog tags, with Heat Miser hair, with a chick hanging off of them? Anyone? No? Just me and Jeff Reed? Fair enough.(FWIW, that picture is why Jeff Reed rocks.
He's a borderline fruitcake...but he's our borderline fruitcake.)
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Jim Wexell also setting the record straight on Hampton:
@jimwexell The Hampton rumors should be completely ignored, just like the Michael Vick rumors. Casey's not getting the axe. I hope that's clear enough.
@jimwexell The Hampton rumors should be completely ignored, just like the Michael Vick rumors. Casey's not getting the axe. I hope that's clear enough.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
MUST.KEEP.LOGAN
apalmer
Footballguy
Nice to have both a punter and a punt returner.
DrJamesAndrews Fan
Footballguy
I would keep Redman over Tank
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Logan had the team made a week ago. Now he's just showing off.
Burnett not looking great this evening. This makes me sad.I would keep Redman and Tank over Carey Davis. Bruce Davis better make plans to pack at half time.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
I agree with the first sentance, but I don't think Davis gets cut this year.Logan is just fun to watch, I think our field position this year on both punts and returns is going to be much improved.
Copeman
Footballguy
Steelers make final cuts
Friday, September 04, 2009
By Ed Bouchette and Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Running backs Carey Davis and rookie Isaac Redman, linebacker Bruce Davis and veteran cornerback Anthony Madison were among the players cut today by Coach Mike Tomlin as the Steelers began reducing their roster to the 53-man limit.
Also among the 22 players who were waived is former Penn State center A.Q. Shipley, a Moon High School graduate and one of the team's seventh-round draft choices. Shipely said he was told the Steelers will try to sign him to the practice squad if he clears waivers.
Shipley is the one of two draft choices who didn't make the 53-man roster. The other is defensive end Sonny Harris, a seventh-round pick who was also cut.
Carey Davis, who started 11 of the 34 games in which he appeared the past two seasons, was waived injured by the team. He did not play in last night's 21-10 preseason victory in Carolina.
Bruce Davis was a third-round draft choice in 2008 from UCLA, where he had 25 1/2 sacks in his last two years as a defensive end.
Among other cuts were defensive tackle Scott Paxson, who was on the 53-man roster last season.
First published on September 4, 2009 at 3:43 pm
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Friday, September 04, 2009
By Ed Bouchette and Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Running backs Carey Davis and rookie Isaac Redman, linebacker Bruce Davis and veteran cornerback Anthony Madison were among the players cut today by Coach Mike Tomlin as the Steelers began reducing their roster to the 53-man limit.
Also among the 22 players who were waived is former Penn State center A.Q. Shipley, a Moon High School graduate and one of the team's seventh-round draft choices. Shipely said he was told the Steelers will try to sign him to the practice squad if he clears waivers.
Shipley is the one of two draft choices who didn't make the 53-man roster. The other is defensive end Sonny Harris, a seventh-round pick who was also cut.
Carey Davis, who started 11 of the 34 games in which he appeared the past two seasons, was waived injured by the team. He did not play in last night's 21-10 preseason victory in Carolina.
Bruce Davis was a third-round draft choice in 2008 from UCLA, where he had 25 1/2 sacks in his last two years as a defensive end.
Among other cuts were defensive tackle Scott Paxson, who was on the 53-man roster last season.
First published on September 4, 2009 at 3:43 pm
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Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Pleasantly surprised Davis was cut, but disappointed Redman was not kept.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Completely agree.
Copeman
Footballguy
That opens the door for another WR or CB to be kept, and those that were fighting for those final spots are every bit as deserving as Redman was. Lets face it, barring any big injury, Redman would never see the field anyways.
Have to think Redman, Shipley, Harris end up on PS.
I don't know. As a goal line threat Redman seemed like an upgrade, gettign on the field as often or more than Russell did. Without him I lose some confidence in this team's goal line success. Like you said, it opens the door for another WR or CB. To me that means less bull power, more passing (and Arians air-happy play calling) and more transition to a cover-2.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
To me, the loss of Redman means bump Big Ben, Ward & Miller in your FFB rankings. Ben may near 30 TDs again.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I'm sure they're hoping they all make it.Of the 3, Redman is clearly the least likely to get through. I think the other two, particularly Shipley, will make it to the PS. Teams had a ton of chances on Shipley in the draft and passed. Doubt many have changed their opinion of him in 3/4 months.Recent talk from Bouchette had me almost convinced that the Steelers liked Harris to much to risk cutting him. Not "shocked" they did, but was at least mildly surprised.
DrJamesAndrews Fan
Footballguy
Disappointed in the Redman news, I'm thinking the Bears scoop em up.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
He could START for Seattle.
analog_hiss
Footballguy
Lolley's take:
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I'd guess McHugh would be #21, right? He's hurt(I think) so it's either IR, which takes him off the 53 man anyway, or a cut/injury settlement. Can't see them keeping both he and Johnson.
The Post-Gazette was also reporting that Woods is on the cut list too. He and McHugh would make 22 if that list Lolley posted turns out to be final.
The Post-Gazette was also reporting that Woods is on the cut list too. He and McHugh would make 22 if that list Lolley posted turns out to be final.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
I didn't think they would pull the plug on Davis this fast, not that I thought he was great or anything, but I guess he didn't "put it on tape". Bummed about Redman as well, but someone had to go...
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I can't even imagine how good this team can be with a great special teams. Scary...........
analog_hiss
Footballguy
Here's a screen cap from Logan's run last night. Notice the number of unblocked Panther players on punt coverage.The punt return is the first highlight here.I can't even imagine how good this team can be with a great special teams. Scary...........
The thought of him one day running at the goal line in a game against the Steelers D is not too comforting knowing that they couldn't stop him in camp. Here's hoping they squeak him onto their practice squad.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Sweet.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Vincent and Redman may be the best RB tandem on a practice squad. Very pleased to see several of those names making it to the Steelers practice squad. I was pretty sure Cleveland would jump on Redman.
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mcintyre1
Footballguy
Not sure if the article was edited for this was missed, but Harris didn't clear waivers. Picked up by Carolina.
treat88
Footballguy
Wow. Must have missed that. Thought I read it closely, but I guess not.Kind of proves the point though.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
I saw that and thought the same thing. You've gotta weigh... is he not good enough to make the LIONS!?!?... or did they make another roster mistake?
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Perhaps it was just a numbers game and they wanted to sneak him onto their practice squad? Guess we'll see.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Gentlemen, what's the skinny on Kendall Simmons? Should Pats fans be happy or mad?
mcintyre1
Footballguy
He wasn't getting it done for whatever reason when they let him go. I know he was often injured.
treat88
Footballguy
His greatest skill was falling down untouched out of his backpedal.He was about as bad a player as can be found regularly starting in the NFL.He is diabetic and trying to rehab an Achilles tear, even if he's back to 100%....well, that's not sayin much.If he sees regular time, Brady may not make much of a comeback.
