***OFFICIAL*** Steelers 2009 Thread (1 Viewer)

[treat88]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.

I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.

21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.

It's the Steeler way.

 

[Godsbrother]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.It's the Steeler way.

While I understand the signing let's not forget that front line couldn't protect Ben or open a running lane to save their lives. They had better spend some high draft picks on some o-lineman and I don't mean just for depth.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

I'm not a big Kemo fan but hard to argue with the Steelers on personnel decisions. Four million per season seems like alot for an average guard but with the cap now at $127 million Kemo's deal takes barely 3% of it this season. I just don't like how it seems the Steelers have been backed into a corner with both Starks and Kemo with few other options.

 

[treat88]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.It's the Steeler way.

While I understand the signing let's not forget that front line couldn't protect Ben or open a running lane to save their lives. They had better spend some high draft picks on some o-lineman and I don't mean just for depth.

2009:BearsLionsPackers in a 34Broncos in a 34OaklandKC in a 34Ravens w/o RR-Scott-McCallister-possibly RayMiamiwe miss Indy, NE, NFC East on the schedule The line will look better even if it's not upgraded.That said, I want the upgrading as much as anyone.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.It's the Steeler way.

I really hope they didn't let Simmons walk because they have confidence in Stapleton. He is OK against average interior linemen and gets abused by really good ones.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Got to respect Kemo the person if not the player...

Updated: February 27, 2009, 3:26 PM ET

Kemoeatu, Steelers agree to $20M deal

By John Clayton

ESPN.com

Torn between money and loyalty to the team that drafted him, Steelers guard Chris Kemoeatu faced the toughest decision of his young life Friday and chose to remain loyal to Pittsburgh.

Considered the top guard in the unrestricted free agent market, Kemoeatu agreed to a five-year, $20 million contract with the Steelers, according to multiple sources. Included in the deal is nearly $6 million in guarantees.

The New York Jets were offering Kemoeatu more money, but the fact the Steelers won Super Bowl XLIII and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is a big fan of his, Kemoeatu decided money would not govern his decision.

His San Francisco based agent, Ken Vierra, had to navigate his client though the tough decision. The Jets were offering more on a year-to-year basis and much more in guarantees. At one point, the Steelers, sensing Kemoeatu might leave, were going to pull out of the talks, but Vierra and Kemoeatu kept calling the Steelers out of loyalty.

Kemoeatu was a sixth-round choice of the Steelers in 2006 and has started 18 games during his pro career. He is known for his intensity and hard hitting along the line.

Senior writer John Clayton covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

 

[footballguy#1]

PFT reporting that Jets offering Kemo $4m/year

Looks like Kemo is stayinghttp://www.postgazette.com/pg/09058/952109-66.stm

Steelers reach agreement with Kemoeatu

Friday, February 27, 2009

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers just came to a contract agreement with guard Chris Kemoeatu that will pay him $20 million over the next five years.

There were reports that Kemoeatu was about to sign with the New York Jets for the same amount, but he decided to stay with the Steelers instead.

The Jets really like the Steelers G's. The difference with Kemo is he is about 3 years younger than Faneca.

3 years? More like 6, I'd think.

Yeah, you're right, I just looked it up. I didn't realize Faneca was already 33.

 

[Cookiemonster]

OK. I back down from my J.Brown stance. I thought Kemo & the Steelers had mutually agreed to parting ways. Besides, with the contracts that guys like Dockery, Langston Walker & Kwame Harris had recently gotten, I figured it'd take 7+ mil/yr to keep a Super Bowl starting O lineman. No, Kemo isn't the best G available, but at that price and adding to that the familiarity he already has, likely the best buy for Pitt.

I still think a quality OT will be available in the draft this year. Not as many needy teams as there was last year, but if they do dry up again, I REALLY like some of the CBs that could be available, and some of the potential 3-4 OLB guys look tremendous near that spot too.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.It's the Steeler way.

While I understand the signing let's not forget that front line couldn't protect Ben or open a running lane to save their lives. They had better spend some high draft picks on some o-lineman and I don't mean just for depth.

The line was the worst part of the team, but it got better as the year went on and it was good enough to win a SB with. I expect a couple of additions through the draft.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Got to respect Kemo the person if not the player...

Updated: February 27, 2009, 3:26 PM ET

Kemoeatu, Steelers agree to $20M deal

By John Clayton

ESPN.com

Torn between money and loyalty to the team that drafted him, Steelers guard Chris Kemoeatu faced the toughest decision of his young life Friday and chose to remain loyal to Pittsburgh.

Considered the top guard in the unrestricted free agent market, Kemoeatu agreed to a five-year, $20 million contract with the Steelers, according to multiple sources. Included in the deal is nearly $6 million in guarantees.

The New York Jets were offering Kemoeatu more money, but the fact the Steelers won Super Bowl XLIII and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is a big fan of his, Kemoeatu decided money would not govern his decision.

His San Francisco based agent, Ken Vierra, had to navigate his client though the tough decision. The Jets were offering more on a year-to-year basis and much more in guarantees. At one point, the Steelers, sensing Kemoeatu might leave, were going to pull out of the talks, but Vierra and Kemoeatu kept calling the Steelers out of loyalty.

Kemoeatu was a sixth-round choice of the Steelers in 2006 and has started 18 games during his pro career. He is known for his intensity and hard hitting along the line.

Senior writer John Clayton covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

I'll take somebody who wants to play on a winner.

 

[Godsbrother]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.It's the Steeler way.

While I understand the signing let's not forget that front line couldn't protect Ben or open a running lane to save their lives. They had better spend some high draft picks on some o-lineman and I don't mean just for depth.

The line was the worst part of the team, but it got better as the year went on and it was good enough to win a SB with. I expect a couple of additions through the draft.

I think the pass protection got better but the run blocking left much to be desired, IMO. Now you would expect them to get better given more time to gel and the fact they are young but some of these guys might not have that much more upside than what they've already shown. We need an infusion of talent on the o-line and they need to do it now.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.

I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.

21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.

It's the Steeler way.

While I understand the signing let's not forget that front line couldn't protect Ben or open a running lane to save their lives. They had better spend some high draft picks on some o-lineman and I don't mean just for depth.

The line was the worst part of the team, but it got better as the year went on and it was good enough to win a SB with. I expect a couple of additions through the draft.

I think the pass protection got better but the run blocking left much to be desired, IMO. Now you would expect them to get better given more time to gel and the fact they are young but some of these guys might not have that much more upside than what they've already shown. We need an infusion of talent on the o-line and they need to do it now.

Truer words have never been spoken..

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

I don't think they let Simmons walk if they aren't confident in Stapleton.I think the starting OL is set, with FA/draft to add depth.21 of 22 SB winning starters returning, with Randall Gay waiting in the wings in that 22nd spot.It's the Steeler way.

While I understand the signing let's not forget that front line couldn't protect Ben or open a running lane to save their lives. They had better spend some high draft picks on some o-lineman and I don't mean just for depth.

The line was the worst part of the team, but it got better as the year went on and it was good enough to win a SB with. I expect a couple of additions through the draft.

I think the pass protection got better but the run blocking left much to be desired, IMO. Now you would expect them to get better given more time to gel and the fact they are young but some of these guys might not have that much more upside than what they've already shown. We need an infusion of talent on the o-line and they need to do it now.

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

 

[treat88]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

An inside LB wouldn't shock me. I expect them to draft a WR/return guy, but I would look for that pick to be 2 or 3. I would say we go BPA except for - QB, TE, OLB, S, RBI think DL is probably more pressing then OL.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

An inside LB wouldn't shock me. I expect them to draft a WR/return guy, but I would look for that pick to be 2 or 3. I would say we go BPA except for - QB, TE, OLB, S, RBI think DL is probably more pressing then OL.

We have the number one defense in the NFL last year. Our running game is pathetic and our QB is second in the league in sacks and we've got greater need on DL? We re-sign two guys from our below average OL and cut one and we've addressed the problem? Sure, we need to add depth at DL, a kick return specialist would be a great get. Both of those should be addressed in this draft, but OL should be the #1, #1a and #2 priority. There is plenty of depth at the OL in this draft that the Steelers should either package a few picks and get up to get a top quality tackle or go BPA from the T,G,C positions. There will be someone at one of those three positions that merits the #32 overall, guaranteed. Second round, strongly consider OL again, unless there's an unbelievable talent at DL or CB. Third, go back to OL if we didn't get one in the second. Otherwise, they then have my permission to look elsewhere.

 

[treat88]

We have the number one defense in the NFL last year. Our running game is pathetic and our QB is second in the league in sacks and we've got greater need on DL? We re-sign two guys from our below average OL and cut one and we've addressed the problem? Sure, we need to add depth at DL, a kick return specialist would be a great get. Both of those should be addressed in this draft, but OL should be the #1, #1a and #2 priority. There is plenty of depth at the OL in this draft that the Steelers should either package a few picks and get up to get a top quality tackle or go BPA from the T,G,C positions. There will be someone at one of those three positions that merits the #32 overall, guaranteed. Second round, strongly consider OL again, unless there's an unbelievable talent at DL or CB. Third, go back to OL if we didn't get one in the second. Otherwise, they then have my permission to look elsewhere.

I understand the sentiment. I want the OL fixed too.But, with the line returning intact we can now take what the draft gives us.Outside of QB, TE, and RB, I think every position is fair game in the first depending on who's available. Hell, if Pettigrew falls he might even wind up being the pick.

 

[theredoz]

What about Nate Washington? Why are the Steelers not offering him a contract?

 

[ThaPenguin]

What about Nate Washington? Why are the Steelers not offering him a contract?

Reports are that Nate is asking 7-8 million per year. Don't have the numbers on hand, but I am pretty sure that is more than Hines and Santonio are making. Nuff said.

 

[Irish]

What about Nate Washington? Why are the Steelers not offering him a contract?

Young fast wr with questionable hands who will likely be signed as a WR2 with WR2 money. Steelers would like to have him back, but at much less money than he will receive from another team.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

What about Nate Washington? Why are the Steelers not offering him a contract?

He can't catch.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

An inside LB wouldn't shock me. I expect them to draft a WR/return guy, but I would look for that pick to be 2 or 3. I would say we go BPA except for - QB, TE, OLB, S, RBI think DL is probably more pressing then OL.

We have the number one defense in the NFL last year. Our running game is pathetic and our QB is second in the league in sacks and we've got greater need on DL? We re-sign two guys from our below average OL and cut one and we've addressed the problem? Sure, we need to add depth at DL, a kick return specialist would be a great get. Both of those should be addressed in this draft, but OL should be the #1, #1a and #2 priority. There is plenty of depth at the OL in this draft that the Steelers should either package a few picks and get up to get a top quality tackle or go BPA from the T,G,C positions. There will be someone at one of those three positions that merits the #32 overall, guaranteed. Second round, strongly consider OL again, unless there's an unbelievable talent at DL or CB. Third, go back to OL if we didn't get one in the second. Otherwise, they then have my permission to look elsewhere.

The DL is good, but old. I am not saying take a DL over OL, but do take the BPA.

 

[Blick]

What about Nate Washington? Why are the Steelers not offering him a contract?

He can't catch.

 

[Franknbeans]

What about Nate Washington? Why are the Steelers not offering him a contract?

He can't catch.

that too and Limas is waiting in the wings.

 

[JoeSteeler]

While the Steelers haven't scheduled a visit yet, they have contacted Tennessee Titans CB/RS Chris Carr, according to The Tennessean.

Carr signed with the Titans last year as a restricted free agent from the Oakland Raiders. He finished fourth in the league in kickoff return average (28.1) and 10th in punt return average (10.1) while intercepting one pass as a reserve cornerback (two starts).

In four seasons, Carr has a kickoff return average of 24.7 and a punt return average of 7.1. The 5-10, 180-pounder out of Boise State turns 26 on April 30.

Link

 

[H8fulHuck]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

That's the kind of thinking that landed us Troy Edwards.

 

[H8fulHuck]

While the Steelers haven't scheduled a visit yet, they have contacted Tennessee Titans CB/RS Chris Carr, according to The Tennessean.

Carr signed with the Titans last year as a restricted free agent from the Oakland Raiders. He finished fourth in the league in kickoff return average (28.1) and 10th in punt return average (10.1) while intercepting one pass as a reserve cornerback (two starts).

In four seasons, Carr has a kickoff return average of 24.7 and a punt return average of 7.1. The 5-10, 180-pounder out of Boise State turns 26 on April 30.

Link

You mean we might finally get a real kick/punt returner? Watching our kickoff returns was like seeing a movie in 3/4 real time.

 

[Irish]

While the Steelers haven't scheduled a visit yet, they have contacted Tennessee Titans CB/RS Chris Carr, according to The Tennessean.

Carr signed with the Titans last year as a restricted free agent from the Oakland Raiders. He finished fourth in the league in kickoff return average (28.1) and 10th in punt return average (10.1) while intercepting one pass as a reserve cornerback (two starts).

In four seasons, Carr has a kickoff return average of 24.7 and a punt return average of 7.1. The 5-10, 180-pounder out of Boise State turns 26 on April 30.

Link

You mean we might finally get a real kick/punt returner? Watching our kickoff returns was like seeing a movie in 3/4 real time.

What you didn't enjoy watching the explosive due of Russell and Davis returning KOs?

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

That's the kind of thinking that landed us Troy Edwards.

There WILL be a player worth the #32 pick at tackle, guard or center. As long as we're content to address any o-line position, we won't have to 'reach.' I hope this year we don't get lured in by those 'hey this guy would be drafted much higher if it weren't for his XXXX injury his senior year."

 

[5-ish Finkle]

If the reports that they're sniffing around the idea of signing Chris Carr have any veracity, and they wind up doing it, that makes CB/returner take a bit of a nosedive in terms of priority.

That said, there were reports that the Steelers were talking closely with guys like Francies and Butler at the combine, so it wouldn't shock me to see them grab a DB(assuming it'd be Butler since he can also return kicks) at #32 if things break the right(wrong?) way and they haven't acquired any FA help at defensive back.

If Carr were signed, I can't see them burning a first rounder on a DB. Not unless someone is clearly far and away BPA at that point and the OL/DL has just been raped.

 

[H8fulHuck]

While the Steelers haven't scheduled a visit yet, they have contacted Tennessee Titans CB/RS Chris Carr, according to The Tennessean.

Carr signed with the Titans last year as a restricted free agent from the Oakland Raiders. He finished fourth in the league in kickoff return average (28.1) and 10th in punt return average (10.1) while intercepting one pass as a reserve cornerback (two starts).

In four seasons, Carr has a kickoff return average of 24.7 and a punt return average of 7.1. The 5-10, 180-pounder out of Boise State turns 26 on April 30.

Link

You mean we might finally get a real kick/punt returner? Watching our kickoff returns was like seeing a movie in 3/4 real time.

What you didn't enjoy watching the explosive due of Russell and Davis returning KOs?

I thought it was just my old Beta max tape machine on the fritz. At least they ran with 2 hands on the ball.

 

[H8fulHuck]

If the reports that they're sniffing around the idea of signing Chris Carr have any veracity, and they wind up doing it, that makes CB/returner take a bit of a nosedive in terms of priority.That said, there were reports that the Steelers were talking closely with guys like Francies and Butler at the combine, so it wouldn't shock me to see them grab a DB(assuming it'd be Butler since he can also return kicks) at #32 if things break the right(wrong?) way and they haven't acquired any FA help at defensive back.If Carr were signed, I can't see them burning a first rounder on a DB. Not unless someone is clearly far and away BPA at that point and the OL/DL has just been raped.

This would make sense. The DL could use some youth and the OL hope for improvement without breaking the bank. The draft seems to be our best forum.

 

[Barry Jive and The Uptown Five]

I can't take it anymore.

2008 was BPA philosophy....

2009 has to be BLA...

BEST LINEMAN AVAILABLE

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Carr barely even qualifies as a DB, he a is a returner who can play DB for a week in an emergency.

It would appear the Steelers disagree with you if they're contemplating bringing him in for a workout/interview. FWIW, I doubt they'd be expecting even a first rounder to come in and start opposite Taylor either. If Carr can at least play in the nickle/dime, and there's no indication I've ever seen that he can't, there would be no urgent need for a high pick on a corner.Regardless, as I mentioned, I don't think his signing would preclude them from taking another defensive back in the draft.....I just would be shocked if it were before round 3 or 4. I think(hope?) they're attempting to set themselves up to be able to take the best available lineman(OL/DL) in the first couple rounds.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

An inside LB wouldn't shock me. I expect them to draft a WR/return guy, but I would look for that pick to be 2 or 3. I would say we go BPA except for - QB, TE, OLB, S, RBI think DL is probably more pressing then OL.

We have the number one defense in the NFL last year. Our running game is pathetic and our QB is second in the league in sacks and we've got greater need on DL? We re-sign two guys from our below average OL and cut one and we've addressed the problem? Sure, we need to add depth at DL, a kick return specialist would be a great get. Both of those should be addressed in this draft, but OL should be the #1, #1a and #2 priority. There is plenty of depth at the OL in this draft that the Steelers should either package a few picks and get up to get a top quality tackle or go BPA from the T,G,C positions. There will be someone at one of those three positions that merits the #32 overall, guaranteed. Second round, strongly consider OL again, unless there's an unbelievable talent at DL or CB. Third, go back to OL if we didn't get one in the second. Otherwise, they then have my permission to look elsewhere.

What makes you think a late first and/or late second round rookie offensive linemen will make an impact at a position that isnt easy to learn where there is an immediate need?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I hope this year we don't get lured in by those 'hey this guy would be drafted much higher if it weren't for his XXXX injury his senior year."

That kind of thinking worked out fine with Heath Miller.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I think some of our running problems were Parker's injury and a lack of a true FB, but I agree completely that we need to add to the line. I have been screaming that during the draft for three years.

Agreed. A vet to compete at guard would be real nice.Facing a murderer's row of defenses didn't help the line's performance last year.With Starks, Kemo, and Colon retained, they will be able to do what they always do, build through the draft.They now have the luxury of being able to go BPA with the future of the team in mind rather than trying to fill immediate needs.Unless the draft falls in their favor, I would say CB and DE and are more likely first round options than OL.

Are you trying to kill me?First, we don't have the luxury of going BPA. We MAY have the luxury of going BPA at one of our positions of need, but if the BPA is a RB, WR, QB, LB and we take him, I will kill something. On top of that, I still think we need to say to hell with BPA and take an OL with our pick. But hey, you know that about me.

An inside LB wouldn't shock me. I expect them to draft a WR/return guy, but I would look for that pick to be 2 or 3. I would say we go BPA except for - QB, TE, OLB, S, RBI think DL is probably more pressing then OL.

We have the number one defense in the NFL last year. Our running game is pathetic and our QB is second in the league in sacks and we've got greater need on DL? We re-sign two guys from our below average OL and cut one and we've addressed the problem? Sure, we need to add depth at DL, a kick return specialist would be a great get. Both of those should be addressed in this draft, but OL should be the #1, #1a and #2 priority. There is plenty of depth at the OL in this draft that the Steelers should either package a few picks and get up to get a top quality tackle or go BPA from the T,G,C positions. There will be someone at one of those three positions that merits the #32 overall, guaranteed. Second round, strongly consider OL again, unless there's an unbelievable talent at DL or CB. Third, go back to OL if we didn't get one in the second. Otherwise, they then have my permission to look elsewhere.

What makes you think a late first and/or late second round rookie offensive linemen will make an impact at a position that isnt easy to learn where there is an immediate need?

Perhaps they don't. But are we going to wait to address the position until we have a top 10 pick? If it takes them a year to get up to speed, let's get them on board now so they're ready next year. No sense waiting.

 

[treat88]

Perhaps they don't. But are we going to wait to address the position until we have a top 10 pick? If it takes them a year to get up to speed, let's get them on board now so they're ready next year. No sense waiting.

Maybe they know something about Tony Hills that we don't?Maybe the FO sees things the same way this guy does:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh...rss&feed=43

I'm really not sure what they could do that they haven't done to address the OL so far. No FA signing? What truly viable options did they have? Jason Brown? Good player, but not at the expense of possibly retaining BMac or extending Harrison.

They just made a new offer to BMac. If he's resigned, I don't think the off-season could have gone any better so far.

32 is the perfect spot to draft what this team needs without cap ramifications.

 

[The Hank]

Perhaps they don't. But are we going to wait to address the position until we have a top 10 pick? If it takes them a year to get up to speed, let's get them on board now so they're ready next year. No sense waiting.

I'm really not sure what they could do that they haven't done to address the OL so far. No FA signing? What truly viable options did they have? Jason Brown? Good player, but not at the expense of possibly retaining BMac or extending Harrison.

Jason Brown was signed by the St. Louis Rams

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Perhaps they don't. But are we going to wait to address the position until we have a top 10 pick? If it takes them a year to get up to speed, let's get them on board now so they're ready next year. No sense waiting.

Maybe they know something about Tony Hills that we don't?Maybe the FO sees things the same way this guy does:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh...rss&feed=43

I'm really not sure what they could do that they haven't done to address the OL so far. No FA signing? What truly viable options did they have? Jason Brown? Good player, but not at the expense of possibly retaining BMac or extending Harrison.

They just made a new offer to BMac. If he's resigned, I don't think the off-season could have gone any better so far.

32 is the perfect spot to draft what this team needs without cap ramifications.

I'm not really arguing that the offseason had gone poorly so far. I'm :meh: when it comes to the re-signings of our O-line. If they ink BMac and Harrison to new deals, I'll be pretty damn happy with the FA period. It is the draft I'm on about, and I don't think our O-line is good enough to 'stand pat' on...or address in the later rounds. I think I've been pretty clear on that.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Steelers' McFadden visits Arizona

Monday, March 02, 2009

By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Cornerback Bryant McFadden was meeting today with the team the Steelers beat in Super Bowl XLIII, the Arizona Cardinals, and could reach a decision soon if he intends to sign elsewhere in free agency.

McFadden is the only starter from the NFL's No. 1 defense who is an unrestricted free agent.

The Cardinals, who are coached by former Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, have hired another former Steelers assistant, Billy Davis, as their defensive coordinator in an attempt to incorporate more of a 3-4 alignment into their scheme.

First published on March 2, 2009 at 1:41 pm

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Ed Bouchette's Steelers chat transcript

Tuesday, March 03, 2009

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Ed Bouchette: Welcome back -- to all of you and to Chris K.

epper: Ed, with the strong play of William Gay last year and the return of the ageless Townsend might the Steelers be better served by saving the cap money on McFadden for use at other positions that lack some depth. Namely O line and WR?

Ed Bouchette: You're always going to be caught a little short at some positions. The Steelers will need to draft a cornerback if they don't sign McFadden

Steadyb23: Hi Ed, do you think it was a good move re-signing Willie Colon?

Ed Bouchette: That was a no-brainer. He's a restricted free agent and they put the tender on him that allows them to match or receive a first-round pick in return. Plus, if there's no new CBA, he'll be restricted again next year and they can do the same thing.

Freehold_Will: Greetings Ed. Regarding the draft, when does the NFL announce compensatory draft picks for free agents lost (Alan Faneca for one)?

Ed Bouchette: It's usually during the NFL meetings, at the end of March. remember, they also signed a few free agents like Mewelde Moore and Fox, so they're not going to have a big load of comp picks.

hinestheman: Ed, obviously as a fan, we can be biased. But, why haven't the Snyders of the World learned from teams like Pittsburgh that you don't build a winning franchise by overpaying stars? I love how the Steelers know how to get value both in the draft and free agency. Don't you think that's a big part of their success? Why can't the Redskins or Cowboys learn from that?

Ed Bouchette: Shhhhh, don't let on.

Freehold_Will: If the Steelers lose McFadden will they draft CB in one of the first two rounds?

Ed Bouchette: It's hard to say what position they'll draft in the first 2 rounds, especially when they pick 32nd. Who's available? You don't just draft a corner to say you drafted a corner. He better be of value where you draft, otherwise, draft a OL, DL, WR.

Freehold_Will: I was very happy to see that the Steelers were able to keep Chris Kemoeatu and sign Max Starks. Do you think that Darnell Stapleton will remain at RG? Why not work Tony Hills at guard?

Ed Bouchette: Tony Hills is a tackle. Stapleton's at right guard unless someone else comes along better.

PhillyMarty: How many years do Holmes and Ward have left on their contracts?

Ed Bouchette: Ward through 2009, Holmes through 2010.

PittsburghPete: Hi Ed. Good to have you back sharing your insight with us. We all know how much you love these chats. Appears the thought was to keep only one of them, so why Kemoeatu over Simmons?

Ed Bouchette: One's on the rise, the other the decline. One's healthy, the other is not.

Freehold_Will: No matter what the Steelers do in free agency I have to admit that I trust there judgement. Seems like every year we lose players and someone else steps in and produces. Do you think this is one if not the best organizations regarding player personnel?

Ed Bouchette: The proof is there, yes.

hinestheman: Ed, how are the Steelers doing with 92's contract extension? Are they close? Please tell me they'll find a way to get it done ...

Ed Bouchette: I don't think they're close. One thing everyone has to remember is that he has one year left on his contract. Anyone thinking that James Harrison will get anything close to what the redskins gave Haynesworth, does not know the system. Haynesworth was a free agent, Harrison is not. If they don't reach a contract, he plays for 1.5 million or whatever next year and they also could franchise him the year after that.

Silverback: Gerry Dulac reported that the Steelers will likely draft a WR mid to high. Do you think they'll look specifically for a deep threat to replace Washington, or just any available WR for whom they have a good grade?

Ed Bouchette: I think they'll try to find a speedier guy who also can return.

cander: How is Rashard Mendenhall recovering?

Ed Bouchette: I'm told he's fully recovered and has been so for awhile.

libyre: I'm not surprised (but still disappointed) the Steelers didn't go after Derrick Ward, but do you have any idea whether they plan to go after a power back in F.A. or the draft, or do they think R. Mendenhall will fill that void?

Ed Bouchette: I know that you're not supposed to have too many running backs, but they already have enough.

Silverback: If the Steelers don't sign Starks long term, can they use the tag next year? I fear they might need to franchise Harrison to keep him from becoming a Redskin.

Ed Bouchette: Yes, they can use the tag next year.

HappyValleyChris: I have heard that the Steelers have offered McFadden 5 years but the Cards are only offering 4 - any chance he stays in the Black and Gold?

Ed Bouchette: There's always a chance, especially when the Cardinals not knowing what they have to work with until Kurt Warner decides what to do. They also have Boldin.

BPiccolo: Ed, Do the Steelers have any free agents scheduled to visit? I haven't really seen anything.

Ed Bouchette: Not that we know of, yet.

omar_epps: Is there any chance that the Steelers would try to sign Marvel Smith on the cheap if he does not get picked up by another team?

Ed Bouchette: I don't think so.

mg: Do you expect the Steelers to sign a Cedric Wilson type FA to be the new #3 WR, or do you think Sweed or Baker will improve enough to fill that role?

Ed Bouchette: I think Sweed moves up. He was drafted in the second round and it's his turn.

Chooch79: What are the most troubling concerns to the Steelers if no CBA in 2010?

Ed Bouchette: Actually, I don't see any detriment to them. They will operate as they always have and perhaps laugh as they see others throw money around. It won't be a bonanza the players think it will be. Some teams -- Jax, Cincy, Buff, etc. -- will spend so far below the cap to make up for those who go over. Plus, it may not be the best economic timing for the players to have a no-cap, no-floor season.

RichP: Do you think Mendenhall will be a bust long term?

Ed Bouchette: It's wayyyyy too early to make any kind of assumption on that. He was hurt in the fourth game of the season.

praveen: Do you think the Steelers will finally realize Matt Spaeth should not be counted on as a blocker? All they need to do is watch game tapes.

Ed Bouchette: They should have seen enough on that first series in the SB when, on first down at the four, his pathetic attempt at blocking cost a 4-yard loss. But then, it's not his fault he was put in that spot. He is not a blocker.

steel_curtain: Will Ray Lewis still a be a Steeler nemesis next season in Baltimore?

Ed Bouchette: The best thing that happened to the Steelers in Baltimore was Bart Scott left and Ray Lewis stayed.

libyre: Why hang on to C. Davis and G. Russell for yet another season if they are not going to get on the field, and the need for a short-yardage back is so obvious?

Ed Bouchette: Gary Russell scored the game's first touchdown in the Super Bowl. I don't think it's the short-yardage back, but other factors.

RichP: Would it be smart to offer someone a deal in which all the money is paid in 2010? Like resign harrison with 40 million being paid in 2010?

Ed Bouchette: No.

praveen: People who are content with our line because they won the SB should also be content with Mitch Berger then because he "won" the SB too ...

Ed Bouchette: You make a good point. But then, it's a point I was making about punters for years. They are overrated. Having said that, Berger really was bad -- he was hurt and old, after all -- and they will welcome Daniel Sepulveda back.

steel_curtain: What was your reaction to the Matt Cassell/Mike Vrabel trade for only a number 2 pick?

Ed Bouchette: I had to laugh at some of the ESPN broadcasters who said New England did not want the 12th overall pick because it would cost them too much? What were they smoking? You get the 12th pick, that is so valuable, not only because it does not come with the costs of the top 10, but you could trade it for a second and a low first, at the least.

PhillyMarty: Would you have advised releasing Foote to free up cap space to enable re-signing McFadden or Washington? Foote is no more than a 2 down player, Timmons moves up and we draft a back-up.

Ed Bouchette: That's all well and good, except when you want to go to the nickel or if someone gets hurt. Foote is more valuable than you might think and they have not lost McFadden yet.

michsteelrfan: Do they view Spaeth as a bust and will look to draft another TE, or look for a FB and move McHugh to TE?

Ed Bouchette: Yes, yes, let's use more third-round picks to draft backup tight ends while ignoring the offensive and defensive lines. I love that strategy.

praveen: Feel better Ed. If the Steelers wanted Kemo that bad, why didn't they try to lock him up last year itself? It's not like his performance exceeded their expectations. Faneca looks like a bargain at 7.5M a year by comparison.

Ed Bouchette: I'm told Alan did not have a good year by New York guys. Anyway, they tried but he was not yet a starter and no one had anything to go by before last season. And, it's not as if theirs was the only offer. He turned down a better one from the Jets.

Chooch79: How much does the offense lose without Nate in the lineup to stretch the defense?

Ed Bouchette: It loses a lot, unless Sweed can make up for it.

praveen: Why do you think the Steelers just didn't let Starks out in the free market and bid against other teams instead of bidding against themselves with the tag?

Ed Bouchette: I think they were desperate and worried if they lost him, they'd be left without any tackles.

nate: From what your hear from Steeler brass, do they think they have a realistic shot at resigning McFadden?

Ed Bouchette: They thought they did, and the fact he has not yet signed gives them hope.

Doc_Holliday: Any player jump out at you at the NFL combine? How far up or down do you think Pat White will move REALLY? Something makes me think he will end up being a steal for some team in the 2nd round.

Ed Bouchette: I did not attend the combine, thank goodness. It's the most overrated sports event in history. It's also the only sports event that newspapers, TV and radio keep covering without being allowed to watch. It's ridiculous. Pat White, I was told, had a tremendous combine. The STeelers believe he'll go in the second round but should go in the first.

steel_curtain: What are your thoughts on what the Steelers use their number 1 draft pick on?

Ed Bouchette: BAA who is not a QB, RB, TE.

Ed_Bouchat: How do you think they'll address the 4th WR spot, FA or draft? If we take a wideout in the draft, how high?

Ed Bouchette: That's the best news Steelers fans can receive, asking a question about who is going to be the fourth wide receiver for the Super Bowl champs. It means they should be able to compete again.

Taz: Ed, who does the actual negotiating with agents? Is it Colbert or Omar Khan?

Ed Bouchette: Omar, with input

praveen: Most ridiculous contract so far this offseason: DeAngelo Hall - $54M over 6 years. Haynesworth's contract is essentially 4 years 48M after which Redskins can opt out

Ed Bouchette: Thank you.

hinestheman: Ed, do you expect Max Starks to sign a long term deal before the season starts?

Ed Bouchette: No. There is little incentive for him to do so when he's guaranteed $8.5 million for one. You'd have to start with a signing bonus of $15 million to get him interested.

hinestheman: Last question - actually this is a request ... Can we do these bi-weekly instead of monthly? I know you would love to ...

Ed Bouchette: I'm trying to get them to do it bi-weekly DURING the season. Thanks all for the participation. See you in April.

First published on March 3, 2009 at 2:15 pm

 

[Stillers Jr.]

My favorite Question...

RichP: Would it be smart to offer someone a deal in which all the money is paid in 2010? Like resign harrison with 40 million being paid in 2010?Ed Bouchette: No.

Yeah, lets pay Harrison $40M next year. What a maroon.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

A little off the topic of Free Agency and whatnot, but this brought a tear to my eye...

Jerome Bettis Tribute

How soon you forget what a beast this guy was...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

***SHTICK IDEA***

How annoying would it be if all of us that post in this thread did this between now and the start of the 2009 season?

Every time you type 'Steelers' in a thread other than this one, instead of just writing 'Steelers', write "6-time Champion Steelers."

Holy ####, everyone would want to kill us within a week or two.

 

[Sheriff66]

***SHTICK IDEA***How annoying would it be if all of us that post in this thread did this between now and the start of the 2009 season?Every time you type 'Steelers' in a thread other than this one, instead of just writing 'Steelers', write "6-time Champion Steelers."Holy ####, everyone would want to kill us within a week or two.

Please don't give me any ideas...

 

[belljr]

***SHTICK IDEA***How annoying would it be if all of us that post in this thread did this between now and the start of the 2009 season?Every time you type 'Steelers' in a thread other than this one, instead of just writing 'Steelers', write "6-time Champion Steelers."Holy ####, everyone would want to kill us within a week or two.

:updated sig:

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I'm going to start doing it from here on (assuming I don't get drunk and forget.) I think if we all started doing it, we could supplant the Pats fans as the most hated on the board.

 

[bryhamm]

***SHTICK IDEA***

How annoying would it be if all of us that post in this thread did this between now and the start of the 2009 season?

Every time you type 'Steelers' in a thread other than this one, instead of just writing 'Steelers', write "6-time Champion Steelers."

Holy ####, everyone would want to kill us within a week or two.

Like they don't already