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***OFFICIAL*** Steelers 2009 Thread (2 Viewers)

Choke said:
All Steeler fans are hearby ordained... DOLPHIN fans!

We really Houston to lose a game -- and they play Miami this week.

Its the best thing of any singular aspect for our playoff chances that we dont control.

We still need to win out and thus the only thing that matters that we can control is Baltimore this weekend.

But if you are curious as to the other aspects.. Denver dropping a game is also very good, but not as much as Houston getting beat.
I don't understand the bolded part. I will assume that Baltimore will get one of the wildcards because they end the season at Oakland (then again you never know with Oakland). How could it not be as important for Denver to drop a game as it is for Houston? Denver is already a game up on Pittsburgh with 2 to play. They end the season at home against KC. Houston still has to play at Miami and against N.E. (who will probably still be playing for at least a 3 seed at that point). I could realistically see Houston losing either of those 2 games. Denver, on the other hand, better lose this weekend at Philly or you can kiss any playoff hopes for the Burgh goodbye. I can't believe we're actually even talking about this but if the Steelers win out (which in my opinion is still unlikely), I really think they'll get in as the 6 seed. Given their schedules, I could see Houston, Jacksonville, NYJ and Denver losing at least one game. Pittsburgh would then control their destiny.
 
Choke said:
Because we have to beat Baltimore for anything to matter... as such we beat them and win out... then we will be tied for a spot in the scenario with Balt and a few other teams. Houston losing is a serious help to us at that point. Which is why "of the things we cant control" Denver come after Houston. But its still good.
Ok I guess my only point is that if we're tied with Baltimore and a few others but Denver is a game up on us, none of this matters because we already lose the tiebreaker to Baltimore. We lose a tiebreaker to Houston as well (and I believe the Jets and the Jags as well?). We basically need all of these teams to lose one game unless I'm wrong about the tiebreakers. With that said, I will be rooting hard for Miami to win this week but I'll be rooting equally hard for Philly.
 
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Choke said:
Because we have to beat Baltimore for anything to matter... as such we beat them and win out... then we will be tied for a spot in the scenario with Balt and a few other teams.

Houston losing is a serious help to us at that point. Which is why "of the things we cant control" Denver come after Houston. But its still good.
Ok I guess my only point is that if we're tied with Baltimore and a few others but Denver is a game up on us, none of this matters because we already lose the tiebreaker to Baltimore. We lose a tiebreaker to Houston as well (and I believe the Jets and the Jags as well?). We basically need all of these teams to lose one game unless I'm wrong about the tiebreakers. With that said, I will be rooting hard for Miami to win this week but I'll be rooting equally hard for Philly.
Damn it... the more I look at it (been up all night) the foggier it gets. :thumbdown: I deleted my posts --- dont want to trip anyone up on the sceanrios.
The post gazette has an article on thisPlayoff Scenario

This is such a mess that I'm not sure we'll know much until week 17. According to this article, the Steelers own the tiebreaker over Houston. Not sure if that would still be the case if there is a 3 way tie.

 
Choke said:
Because we have to beat Baltimore for anything to matter... as such we beat them and win out... then we will be tied for a spot in the scenario with Balt and a few other teams.

Houston losing is a serious help to us at that point. Which is why "of the things we cant control" Denver come after Houston. But its still good.
Ok I guess my only point is that if we're tied with Baltimore and a few others but Denver is a game up on us, none of this matters because we already lose the tiebreaker to Baltimore. We lose a tiebreaker to Houston as well (and I believe the Jets and the Jags as well?). We basically need all of these teams to lose one game unless I'm wrong about the tiebreakers. With that said, I will be rooting hard for Miami to win this week but I'll be rooting equally hard for Philly.
Damn it... the more I look at it (been up all night) the foggier it gets. :lol: I deleted my posts --- dont want to trip anyone up on the sceanrios.
The post gazette has an article on thisPlayoff Scenario

This is such a mess that I'm not sure we'll know much until week 17. According to this article, the Steelers own the tiebreaker over Houston. Not sure if that would still be the case if there is a 3 way tie.
So I'll just do what I did last weekend...root against any and all 8-6 and other 7-7 teams! :hey:
 
Choke said:
Because we have to beat Baltimore for anything to matter... as such we beat them and win out... then we will be tied for a spot in the scenario with Balt and a few other teams.

Houston losing is a serious help to us at that point. Which is why "of the things we cant control" Denver come after Houston. But its still good.
Ok I guess my only point is that if we're tied with Baltimore and a few others but Denver is a game up on us, none of this matters because we already lose the tiebreaker to Baltimore. We lose a tiebreaker to Houston as well (and I believe the Jets and the Jags as well?). We basically need all of these teams to lose one game unless I'm wrong about the tiebreakers. With that said, I will be rooting hard for Miami to win this week but I'll be rooting equally hard for Philly.
Damn it... the more I look at it (been up all night) the foggier it gets. :hey: I deleted my posts --- dont want to trip anyone up on the sceanrios.
The post gazette has an article on thisPlayoff Scenario

This is such a mess that I'm not sure we'll know much until week 17. According to this article, the Steelers own the tiebreaker over Houston. Not sure if that would still be the case if there is a 3 way tie.
3 way ties are bad for Pittsburgh.
 
Very accurate article on Ben..

Ben Roethlisberger may be the player in the NFL with the widest gap in popularity. There are those who worship him. Then there are those who post comments on Bleacher Report saying he sucks and shouldn't be in the NFL.

I am somewhere in the middle, though much more heavily leaning toward the "he is amazing" side. I can understand why some might not love his style of play. But saying he is not even a good QB is just ignorant of the facts. I am definitely not saying anyone is ignorant, just that you might not know everything there is to know.

First of all, Ben has a career QB rating of 91.5, and that's good enough for top 10 all time. He's one of only 10 quarterbacks ever to throw for 500 yards in a game. He went 13-0 in his first season, and won rookie of the year, and then won two Super Bowls in his first five years in the league.

He's one of the only people to have thrown a perfect game in terms of quarterback rating, and he managed to do it three times in his short career—more than anyone else except Peyton Manning.

In the first Super Bowl he played in, he was a kid who had never been on even close to such a large stage before, and it showed. I'm not making excuses; he sucked, incredibly. But in the playoffs leading up to that game, he put the team on his back against both Indy and Denver, carrying them through the playoffs and single-handedly saving the season with his legendary tackle of Nick Harper against the Colts.

Yes, the Steelers' defense is quite often one of the best in the NFL. But it is also true that for most of his career Ben has had one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. He gets pressured a ridiculous amount and not only gets away from the pressure, he exceeds expectations and manages to be the best quarterback in the game when on the run.

His escapes are ridiculous. It is here where his true value lies. His intangibles.

There is no statistic for number-of-defenders-that-attempted-to-tackle-quarterback-but-hit-him-and-he-escaped-and-then-he-threw-a-pass-that-was-either-a-first-down-or-touchdown. First of all, that abbreviation would be absolutely ridiculous. But second of all, no one seems to notice that because he makes it look so easy.

The Super Bowl last year is a prime example. He avoided pressure again and again, scrambling for over 10 seconds on the final TD play, before finally pulling the win out of his ###.

His third season in the NFL was marred with crappiness. He threw more interceptions than touchdowns and his completion percentage was "awful" (I do not agree, as at 59.7 percent, it's better than Eli Manning's career percentage, is better than quite a few seasons from Brett Favre, and is eerily similar to Matt Hasselbeck's career percentage as well), and he took his team from 11-5 and a Super Bowl win to 8-8.

Ben's worst season was about the same as overall career numbers for a few highly regarded quarterbacks. This was during a season in which he broke his face and ripped open his body. I heard Chuck Norris tried those things and cried, but Ben only whimpered.

At his best, which, until this year, was 2007, he had a QB Rating of 104 and threw 34 TDs, both are excellent numbers.

At this point in his career, he is the Steelers. A few years ago, some made the assessment that he was just a game manager. Well, that is long gone. He is now a premier quarterback in the NFL. When was the last time a game manager threw for 500 yards or four TDs? When was the last time a game manager drove his team 88 yards in two minutes to win a Super Bowl?

Ben truly has evolved into one of the best QB's of his era. He is very unconventional, so it's only natural for some to hate him. He will never own the cocky, pretty look of Manning or Brady as they stand cooly in the pocket and sling a ball to a receiver without taking a step near the edge of the pocket.

But they will never take a broken play and turn it into a game winning touchdown. Stating Ben is "the best in the game" or "top five, definitely" makes no sense, as this is all subjective, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. The stats are all there saying he's a top player. The actual plays are there saying he's a top player. I firmly believe he is a top player.

There can be arguments made for Brady, Manning, Brees, Palmer, Rivers, baby-Manning, Favre, McNabb, Schaub, Rodgers, Warner, Romo, or Cutler. I don't care. Give me an average team with average players across the board and I get to pick any current QB, Ben will be in my top three every time. I don't actually believe what I'm seeing sometimes when I watch him.

If the Steelers D hadn't given up every game this year (they've lead or tied in the fourth quarter every game they've lost), then Ben would be getting serious MVP consideration. He has put the Steelers in position to win every game and the vaunted defense has let him down. This week he was forced to win against Green Bay three separate times because his D let them score almost at will.

Even at just 10-4, Ben would be right near the top of the discussion of best player for his team. He currently has 22 touchdowns to only 11 interceptions and 3,800 yards. Those are quite a set of good numbers. At this point, Peyton and Drew are inching away, and one of them is going to take it easily, but Ben is right at their heels. He should not win it by any means, but he should get more notice than he does.

He is, in my opinion, one of the most underrated players in the NFL. Half of the people that talk about him say he sucks or that the Steelers carry him, but I firmly believe they don't even watch the games. It's been the other way around for two seasons now. Without Ben, the Steelers are a 7-9, 6-10 team at best. With him, they have a chance to be a Super Bowl contender every year.

Yes, Ben has issues. Sometimes I want to punch him in the face when I watch him run around for five seconds, see a defender, look around some more, then get wrapped up and hold that stupid look on his face as he realizes he got sacked for the ninth time in a game.

But the truth is, I'll take the sacks any day because if he didn't try to make so many plays, he wouldn't be nearly the quarterback he is. That quarterback is one of the best in the NFL. Big Ben has emerged as an excellent, excellent player. And people need to start taking notice.

He had the period of five years where people could still hold that first year in the league where he was a game manager over his head. That's over now. He's one of the most dangerous QB's ever to play the game, reminiscent of Fran Tarkenton, except Ben is better.

By the end of his career, he's on pace for 55,000 career passing yards, 340 touchdowns, a QB rating of above 90, and 160 wins. I won't predict how many Super Bowls he might win, but with two in his first five years, we can guesstimate it might be more.

Those statistics are not only HOF worthy, but a few of them will approach Dan Marino's numbers, which are widely regarded as some of the best of all time. Ben will be on pace for only 6,000 less yards than Marino, spread that over 10 more years, it's only an extra hundred yards or so a year.

He is already a machine; in 10 more years he'll be ridiculous.

I am tired of having to argue Ben's case every time a quarterback discussion pops up. Everything points to him being a superior player—stats, wins, intangibles, Super Bowls, everything. He could retire now and make a claim he belongs in the Hall of Fame—it would be ludicrous, but it would be arguable to some.

Big Ben has transformed from a kid who was dragged along by the Bus and Blitzburgh of the 2000s to a fantastic player—the best player on a very great team—and one of the best players in the NFL.

I won't be able to convince all of you, hell not even most of you. But I don't need to. I can see the truth myself. Give it time if you need to, but please don't argue and be forced to eat your words years from now.

Ben Roethlisberger is one of the best quarterbacks of his generation and a worthy heir to Favre, Manning, and Brady. When they retire, he will assume the mantle of the league's preeminent player.

And then lose that mantle when Favre un-retires. And then regain

 
Choke said:
Because we have to beat Baltimore for anything to matter... as such we beat them and win out... then we will be tied for a spot in the scenario with Balt and a few other teams.

Houston losing is a serious help to us at that point. Which is why "of the things we cant control" Denver come after Houston. But its still good.
Ok I guess my only point is that if we're tied with Baltimore and a few others but Denver is a game up on us, none of this matters because we already lose the tiebreaker to Baltimore. We lose a tiebreaker to Houston as well (and I believe the Jets and the Jags as well?). We basically need all of these teams to lose one game unless I'm wrong about the tiebreakers. With that said, I will be rooting hard for Miami to win this week but I'll be rooting equally hard for Philly.
Damn it... the more I look at it (been up all night) the foggier it gets. :eek: I deleted my posts --- dont want to trip anyone up on the sceanrios.
The post gazette has an article on thisPlayoff Scenario

This is such a mess that I'm not sure we'll know much until week 17. According to this article, the Steelers own the tiebreaker over Houston. Not sure if that would still be the case if there is a 3 way tie.
3 way ties are bad for Pittsburgh.
Except for with Tennessee
 
On another note I have come to the conclusion that signing Hampton needs to be a priority in offseason. I wouldn't sign him to a long term deal which is what I am sure he wants but I would definitely wave a 3-year deal in his direction and if he turns it down I would franchise him. He is that important and if you sign him you can look to fortify the secondary which is critical.

If you don't sign him you are pretty much forced to grab a NT in the first round unless you consider moving to a 4-3.

 
Hmmm. . . Odd.

PITTSBURGH - The Steelers announced today that long snapper Greg Warren and wide receiver Limas Sweed will miss the remainder of the season.

Warren, a fifth-year pro, has been placed on the Reserve/Injured list with a right knee injury after tearing his anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) on the final play of Sunday’s game against the Green Bay Packers. He signed a three-year, $2.3 million contract with the Steelers in 2008.

Second-year wide receiver Sweed has been placed on the Reserve/Non-Football Illness list. No further information has been released by the team, but sources have said he has been home sick and not happy with his play this season.

The Steelers will add two players to complete their 53-man roster prior to Sunday’s 1 p.m. regular season home finale against the Baltimore Ravens.

Jared Retkofsky , who replaced Warren last season, and was in camp this summer could be heading back to Pittsburgh according to one league source. He is currently playing in the United Football League with the New York Sentinals. He was the Steelers long snapper in Super Bowl XLIII.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2703-Pittsburgh-...reasons-unknown
 
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On another note I have come to the conclusion that signing Hampton needs to be a priority in offseason. I wouldn't sign him to a long term deal which is what I am sure he wants but I would definitely wave a 3-year deal in his direction and if he turns it down I would franchise him. He is that important and if you sign him you can look to fortify the secondary which is critical.If you don't sign him you are pretty much forced to grab a NT in the first round unless you consider moving to a 4-3.
Even if they franchised Hampton(which would actually surprise me a little, but I never thought they'd franchise Starks either soooo....) I think they have to consider a NT in the first round anyway. He's at that age where fat football players' knees just start to give out on them without any warning. They can't afford to be relying solely on two guys who're on the wrong side of 30 for one of the most, if not the most, important cogs in the run defense.This is one of the hidden pitfalls of this "accelerated aging" of the defense. They clearly need to revamp the secondary, but can't really ignore getting younger at NT or ILB this offseason either. (Hell, it's not like the OL has been "fixed" either.) Outside of the skill positions the Steelers could probably draft or sign a FA at just about any position on either side of the ball and it could be a potential help on some level. Safety is a glaring need, IMO, as is finding Farrior's replacement. Teams are just destroying their defense in the middle of the field with the pass and Farriro/the safeties have been the absolute worst culprits with missed tackles this year. All that said, passing up, say, a Cody if he were available in round 1....dunno if I could do that if I'm running a 3-4 front.
 
Just received a text from Steelers' songwhale:

"The Steelers signed WR Joey Galloway and LS Jared Retkofsky to take the roster spots of WR Limas Sweed LS Greg Warren."

 
On another note I have come to the conclusion that signing Hampton needs to be a priority in offseason. I wouldn't sign him to a long term deal which is what I am sure he wants but I would definitely wave a 3-year deal in his direction and if he turns it down I would franchise him. He is that important and if you sign him you can look to fortify the secondary which is critical.If you don't sign him you are pretty much forced to grab a NT in the first round unless you consider moving to a 4-3.
Even if they franchised Hampton(which would actually surprise me a little, but I never thought they'd franchise Starks either soooo....) I think they have to consider a NT in the first round anyway. He's at that age where fat football players' knees just start to give out on them without any warning. They can't afford to be relying solely on two guys who're on the wrong side of 30 for one of the most, if not the most, important cogs in the run defense.This is one of the hidden pitfalls of this "accelerated aging" of the defense. They clearly need to revamp the secondary, but can't really ignore getting younger at NT or ILB this offseason either. (Hell, it's not like the OL has been "fixed" either.) Outside of the skill positions the Steelers could probably draft or sign a FA at just about any position on either side of the ball and it could be a potential help on some level. Safety is a glaring need, IMO, as is finding Farrior's replacement. Teams are just destroying their defense in the middle of the field with the pass and Farriro/the safeties have been the absolute worst culprits with missed tackles this year. All that said, passing up, say, a Cody if he were available in round 1....dunno if I could do that if I'm running a 3-4 front.
As I said I wouldn't sign Hampton to a long term deal but even if you draft a NT first he probably won't be ready to start. Hampton's been a beast this season and by slapping the franchise tag on him you can address more pressing needs...
 
On another note I have come to the conclusion that signing Hampton needs to be a priority in offseason. I wouldn't sign him to a long term deal which is what I am sure he wants but I would definitely wave a 3-year deal in his direction and if he turns it down I would franchise him. He is that important and if you sign him you can look to fortify the secondary which is critical.If you don't sign him you are pretty much forced to grab a NT in the first round unless you consider moving to a 4-3.
Even if they franchised Hampton(which would actually surprise me a little, but I never thought they'd franchise Starks either soooo....) I think they have to consider a NT in the first round anyway. He's at that age where fat football players' knees just start to give out on them without any warning. They can't afford to be relying solely on two guys who're on the wrong side of 30 for one of the most, if not the most, important cogs in the run defense.This is one of the hidden pitfalls of this "accelerated aging" of the defense. They clearly need to revamp the secondary, but can't really ignore getting younger at NT or ILB this offseason either. (Hell, it's not like the OL has been "fixed" either.) Outside of the skill positions the Steelers could probably draft or sign a FA at just about any position on either side of the ball and it could be a potential help on some level. Safety is a glaring need, IMO, as is finding Farrior's replacement. Teams are just destroying their defense in the middle of the field with the pass and Farriro/the safeties have been the absolute worst culprits with missed tackles this year. All that said, passing up, say, a Cody if he were available in round 1....dunno if I could do that if I'm running a 3-4 front.
As I said I wouldn't sign Hampton to a long term deal but even if you draft a NT first he probably won't be ready to start. Hampton's been a beast this season and by slapping the franchise tag on him you can address more pressing needs...
I think you have to worry about him shutting it down if you tag him.
 
I think the Steelers need more defensive help via the draft/FA than they do on the "O" line. The "O" line isn't horrible. It's not great either, but Ben sometimes makes them look worse than they really are. Their run blocking has been better this year. Plus, they are relatively young. Anyways, age on the "D" line and bad play in the secondary should hopefully make those areas priorities in the off season. However, if a stud offensive lineman is there in the draft for them, I think they should take it. I'd focus on the defensive line with at least 2 of the top 4 picks. Then maybe a LB/O line. Seek secondary help via later picks/FA. You can always find hidden gems for the secondary.

 
If you don't sign Hampton and want to stay in the 3-4 then you better sign a veteran run-stopping NT AND draft one in the first round.

 
I think you have to worry about him shutting it down if you tag him.
Perhaps. You'd have to worry about his knees imploding either way...and his back up is also a 100 year old fat guy.I think a pivotal area of the defense(particularly the run defense) that is currently averaging 32 or 33 years of age is pretty "pressing" in the grand scheme, but maybe that's just me. Hampton's probably my favorite current Steeler and he's played pretty well this year, given how many of his contemporaries have just lain down and died on defense, but they can't keep expecting him to play at that level at his age with his "baggage"(e.g. he's fat and has a lot of wear on his knees already).
 
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If you don't sign Hampton and want to stay in the 3-4 then you better sign a veteran run-stopping NT AND draft one in the first round.
That was basically my point. No matter who the veteran is(a tagged Hampton or a different FA), they can't continue for much longer thinking Hampton at 34-35 is going to play like Hampton at 32. They'll actually be taking a big risk that Hampton at 33 plays like Hampton at 32, if they have no better fallback than Chris Hoke IMO.If they're staying with the 3-4, and depending on who is available in round one at their pick, they may not be able to pass on a Cody/Williams type even if Hampton is rostered.
 
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I'm with Finkle on this one. I'm not confident in Hampton playing at a high level past this year. Look how quickly Farrior has fallen. Older guys on defense don't cut it in todays NFL. That is why the Steelers MUST address the defensive line big time this off season. Keep Casey one more year, then buy him some twinkies and say goodbye and thank him for his years.

 
Look how quickly Farrior has fallen. Older guys on defense don't cut it in todays NFL. That is why the Steelers MUST address the defensive line big time this off season.
It's not like we haven't seen it before either. Joel Steed went from being a rock one year to having his knees implode the next and the Steelers were boned.
 
I'm with Finkle on this one. I'm not confident in Hampton playing at a high level past this year. Look how quickly Farrior has fallen. Older guys on defense don't cut it in todays NFL. That is why the Steelers MUST address the defensive line big time this off season. Keep Casey one more year, then buy him some twinkies and say goodbye and thank him for his years.
And this is exactly what I am saying -- the Steelers have no heir apparent for Hampton. He's only 32-- slap the franchise tag on him and draft a guy to take his place in 2011. The Steelers have plenty of holes to fill on their "D": They need more depth on the line, a starting CB, a starting safety and an inside LB. That is too many holes to fill in one draft and offseason (and we haven't even talked about the o-line and lack of depth at RB if Parker is let go).
 
i'm going to spend about $200/tix - and we're staying at a nice hotel within walking distancei expect to be cold. pay too much for a ticket, beer, etcIt'll be great thoughLooks like no rain - :goodposting:I shoulda bought a ticket before the gb GAME THOUGHPrices went up-k

Non Football postYes the season is probably lost - the team lost it's way - etc.But I'm still going to give me and my family a XMAS present and come up and see the Ravens game this year. I'm a lifelong fan and I DON"T CARE that we are currently not performing. I've never been to a game and it's what I'm going to do. I also will visit some pretty old relatives who have not met my son so it's going to be a special trip for many.First - I assume we can get tix outside the game? I know down here in NC Charlotte games are easy to get it. Just go - plenty of tix for sale outside. Will that be the case here?We plan to come up XMAS night or the day after and stay for the game and visit/sight see.I'd love some help/advice from other members here. My entire family is from the city - my dad worked the steel mills long ago and drove a street car. I'd list my email but...TIA-ken
I bought 3 tickets off of stubhub for $50 a piece.
 
i'm going to spend about $200/tix - and we're staying at a nice hotel within walking distancei expect to be cold. pay too much for a ticket, beer, etcIt'll be great thoughLooks like no rain - :)I shoulda bought a ticket before the gb GAME THOUGHPrices went up-k

Non Football postYes the season is probably lost - the team lost it's way - etc.But I'm still going to give me and my family a XMAS present and come up and see the Ravens game this year. I'm a lifelong fan and I DON"T CARE that we are currently not performing. I've never been to a game and it's what I'm going to do. I also will visit some pretty old relatives who have not met my son so it's going to be a special trip for many.First - I assume we can get tix outside the game? I know down here in NC Charlotte games are easy to get it. Just go - plenty of tix for sale outside. Will that be the case here?We plan to come up XMAS night or the day after and stay for the game and visit/sight see.I'd love some help/advice from other members here. My entire family is from the city - my dad worked the steel mills long ago and drove a street car. I'd list my email but...TIA-ken
I bought 3 tickets off of stubhub for $50 a piece.
I still think you can get tickets for under $200.
 
OK, so here's what it comes down to for the Steelers.

First off, they must win at Miami, that's a given. They lose, they're out. If they win...

If both the Jets and Texans win, they're out no matter what else happens.

If the Jets lose at home to Cincinnati and Houston loses at home to New England, Steelers are in.

If the Jets win and Houston loses, then Pittsburgh needs Baltimore to lose at Oakland in order to get in.

If Houston wins and the Jets lose, then Pittsburgh needs Baltimore to lose at Oakland AND Denver to lose at home to KC to get in.

 
OK, so here's what it comes down to for the Steelers.First off, they must win at Miami, that's a given. They lose, they're out. If they win...If both the Jets and Texans win, they're out no matter what else happens.If the Jets lose at home to Cincinnati and Houston loses at home to New England, Steelers are in.If the Jets win and Houston loses, then Pittsburgh needs Baltimore to lose at Oakland in order to get in.If Houston wins and the Jets lose, then Pittsburgh needs Baltimore to lose at Oakland AND Denver to lose at home to KC to get in.
As I said in the Colts game thread... Colts were smart to try and avoid Pitt as the 6th seed. They felt that kick-to-the-balls once before.
That defense and this defense are on the opposite sides of the planet. Peyton would shred this years defense. Of course hopefully they get Troy back by then if they make the playoffs.
 
**Sigh**

I'd love to have the KC, Oak, Clev, Chi or either Cinci game back. Just one win out of those abominations and we're in a much better position right now.

Oh well...

 
So will Cincy even attempt to win next week, or just tank it to keep the Steelers home for the playoffs? Although the Steelers fate may be decided before that.

 
**Sigh**I'd love to have the KC, Oak, Clev, Chi or either Cinci game back. Just one win out of those abominations and we're in a much better position right now.Oh well...
Although I don't like the Cin losses, I don't mind losing to playoff caliber teams.Losing to those other ones was inexcusable.
 
OK, so here's what it comes down to for the Steelers.

First off, they must win at Miami, that's a given. They lose, they're out. If they win...

If both the Jets and Texans win, they're out no matter what else happens.

If the Jets lose at home to Cincinnati and Houston loses at home to New England, Steelers are in.

If the Jets win and Houston loses, then Pittsburgh needs Baltimore to lose at Oakland in order to get in.

If Houston wins and the Jets lose, then Pittsburgh needs Baltimore to lose at Oakland AND Denver to lose at home to KC to get in.
As I said in the Colts game thread... Colts were smart to try and avoid Pitt as the 6th seed. They felt that kick-to-the-balls once before.
That defense and this defense are on the opposite sides of the planet. Peyton would shred this years defense. Of course hopefully they get Troy back by then if they make the playoffs.
And that changes everything.
Getting Troy will make a big difference, but I think there is more problems on defense besides just Troy being out.
 
As I said in the Colts game thread... Colts were smart to try and avoid Pitt as the 6th seed. They felt that kick-to-the-balls once before.
:rolleyes: At the thought of Indy losing last week so they can avoid a possible playoff game against the Steelers. That is just silly talk.
 
It would probably be an upgrade even if he played on crutches, but a gimpy Troy coming off a long layoff will not be the playing at the same level he did against TEN.

 
This may be the 2009 thread... but here is an early look at the 2010 schedule if we remain 3rd in division and most things stay the same...

Home: New England, NY Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland (Cincy, Balt, Clev)

Away: Buffalo, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville* (Cincy, Balt, Clev)
Should be interesting. Should be fun seeing Cincy play the same schedule except they get INDY and SD instead of JAX and OAK.
 
This may be the 2009 thread... but here is an early look at the 2010 schedule if we remain 3rd in division and most things stay the same...

Home: New England, NY Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland (Cincy, Balt, Clev)

Away: Buffalo, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville* (Cincy, Balt, Clev)
Should be interesting. Should be fun seeing Cincy play the same schedule except they get INDY and SD instead of JAX and OAK.
I hope this works out just like this... gives me three chances to see the boys play within 3 hours drive from me.. and I already know I can get a free ticket to both the JAX and TB games (rich friends with season tickets.)
 
Polamalu may return against Dolphins

Tuesday, December 29, 2009

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Safety Troy Polamalu, who has missed the past six Steelers games with a knee injury, ran yesterday and today and has a chance to return to play Sunday in Miami.

"The door is not closed,'' said coach Mike Tomlin.

Polamalu has missed a total of 10 games with two separate injuries to his left knee.

Among other injuries listed by Tomlin today were halfback Willie Parker (shoulder), guard Chris Kemoeatu (wrist), defensive end Brett Keisel (neck) and wide receiver Hines Ward (both hamstrings).

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09363/10243...l#ixzz0b6hQyYM1
 
I hope this works out just like this... gives me three chances to see the boys play within 3 hours drive from me.. and I already know I can get a free ticket to both the JAX and TB games (rich friends with season tickets.)
In case it doesn't work out, you can probably get free tickets to the Jacksonville game without the rich friends. The Jags can't give away tickets for their home games. A buddy of mine lives there and I think they've had home blackouts for about ten flipping years running.Hell, if they have the Jags on the docket next year I may just make the drive up and buy one off the street for a dollar. :lmao:

 
50 yard line15 rows backawesome weather:)primati's ftw

i'm going to spend about $200/tix - and we're staying at a nice hotel within walking distancei expect to be cold. pay too much for a ticket, beer, etcIt'll be great thoughLooks like no rain - :)I shoulda bought a ticket before the gb GAME THOUGHPrices went up-k

Non Football postYes the season is probably lost - the team lost it's way - etc.But I'm still going to give me and my family a XMAS present and come up and see the Ravens game this year. I'm a lifelong fan and I DON"T CARE that we are currently not performing. I've never been to a game and it's what I'm going to do. I also will visit some pretty old relatives who have not met my son so it's going to be a special trip for many.First - I assume we can get tix outside the game? I know down here in NC Charlotte games are easy to get it. Just go - plenty of tix for sale outside. Will that be the case here?We plan to come up XMAS night or the day after and stay for the game and visit/sight see.I'd love some help/advice from other members here. My entire family is from the city - my dad worked the steel mills long ago and drove a street car. I'd list my email but...TIA-ken
I bought 3 tickets off of stubhub for $50 a piece.
I still think you can get tickets for under $200.
 
I think you have to worry about him shutting it down if you tag him.
Steelers try to avoid tagging people.If you want to be a member of the Steeler orginization, then we can work from there. Sometimes they use it to allow a longer negotiation period for player who want to remain in the black and gold. In the instance of Hampton, using it as a 1 year contract isnt going to fit their operating standards. Would Hampton sign a 1 year contract? If so, then maybe you can work it. But if he is totally against and wants something longer (i.e. the contract is smore important then just remaining a Steeler) then the Steeler will let him walk. The try not to ever force service from a player who doesnt have a contract and doesnt want to stay (whatever the reasons).
2010-01-02 19:53:02Mark Kaboly, of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, reports

Pittsburgh Steelers DT Casey Hampton, who will be a free agent after the season, said he does not want the Steelers to place the franchise tag on him this offseason because he wants the opportunity to get one more long-term, lucrative contract.
And there's the rub: The Steelers (and any other team) would be crazy to offer Hampton a long term lucrative contract. However he is a Pro Bowl player at a position where you have no heir apparent and he is worth overpaying for one year. I would still consider franchising him unless you suspect his attitude is going to be a problem.
 
Well just as we ended their season last year, the Ravens have officially eliminated us from making the post season this year. Pretty obvious where this season went south but I'm very proud of the team for the way they finished the season. I'm a little upset but I don't think this team had a realistic shot of doing much in the playoffs anyways. The defense once again did everything in their power to blow the game and I can't see how they would have stopped any of the powerhouse offenses they would have faced in the playoffs. Hopefully next season will bring some changes to the coaching staff, secondary and offensive line. They have other needs as well but that would at least be a start in the right direction.

 
The Steelers needed to have at least 3 things go their way and only one did. If it could only be one I am glad it was the Steelers getting the win. I agree they likely wouldn't have done much damage in the playoffs but they might have had a chance against a banged up Patriots team and it would have been fun going up against the Bengals.

Obviously this 2009 team will always be remembered as underachievers but it does look like they have something in Mendenhall, Wallace & Ziggy. Hopefully we can get some help in the secondary & both lines and make another run in 2010.

 

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