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If you hate the team so much then why not move on and root for another team?
I didn't like the way he handled the running backs and I question not taking the penalty that would have put the Browns with a 3rd and 18 instead of giving them the chip shot FG but I don't think it cost them the game. As I said in the game thread, the Steelers went into the game with one arm tied behind their back and lost 2 lineman and Woodley during the game, turned the ball over 8 times and committed a ton of very costly penalties. Tomlin isn't blameless but that is a hell of a lot for a coach to overcome.Is it me or is Mike Tomlin making some horrible coaching decisions on pretty much a weekly basis now? The jury is still out on this guy.
The penalties, which has been a season long problem for them, falls squarely at his feetI didn't like the way he handled the running backs and I question not taking the penalty that would have put the Browns with a 3rd and 18 instead of giving them the chip shot FG but I don't think it cost them the game. As I said in the game thread, the Steelers went into the game with one arm tied behind their back and lost 2 lineman and Woodley during the game, turned the ball over 8 times and committed a ton of very costly penalties. Tomlin isn't blameless but that is a hell of a lot for a coach to overcome.Is it me or is Mike Tomlin making some horrible coaching decisions on pretty much a weekly basis now? The jury is still out on this guy.
6 of the 9 penalties were holding. I think that is more of an indication of a player being beat by his opponent than it is his being coached improper technique. I guess you can blame Tomlin for having crappy players but remember that three of the holding calls were committed by backups and another on Stephenson Sylvester on a punt return. The only holding calls from a starter were Ramon Foster and Heath Miller.The penalties, which has been a season long problem for them, falls squarely at his feetI didn't like the way he handled the running backs and I question not taking the penalty that would have put the Browns with a 3rd and 18 instead of giving them the chip shot FG but I don't think it cost them the game. As I said in the game thread, the Steelers went into the game with one arm tied behind their back and lost 2 lineman and Woodley during the game, turned the ball over 8 times and committed a ton of very costly penalties. Tomlin isn't blameless but that is a hell of a lot for a coach to overcome.Is it me or is Mike Tomlin making some horrible coaching decisions on pretty much a weekly basis now? The jury is still out on this guy.
I wasn't just referring to yesterday. This is about as undisciplined a team as I have seen fielded by Tomlin.6 of the 9 penalties were holding. I think that is more of an indication of a player being beat by his opponent than it is his being coached improper technique. I guess you can blame Tomlin for having crappy players but remember that three of the holding calls were committed by backups and another on Stephenson Sylvester on a punt return. The only holding calls from a starter were Ramon Foster and Heath Miller.The penalties, which has been a season long problem for them, falls squarely at his feetI didn't like the way he handled the running backs and I question not taking the penalty that would have put the Browns with a 3rd and 18 instead of giving them the chip shot FG but I don't think it cost them the game. As I said in the game thread, the Steelers went into the game with one arm tied behind their back and lost 2 lineman and Woodley during the game, turned the ball over 8 times and committed a ton of very costly penalties. Tomlin isn't blameless but that is a hell of a lot for a coach to overcome.Is it me or is Mike Tomlin making some horrible coaching decisions on pretty much a weekly basis now? The jury is still out on this guy.
I dunno a couple weeks ago they played a game where there were only 2 penalties, both on Willie Colon, on the same play! Some of Tomlin's decisions have had me shaking my head but I don't think the penalties are necessarily a reflection on poor coaching. I do wish Tomlin would settle on the running backs though. His rotation based on who has the hot hand is BS. Name a starter, pick a 3rd down back and rotate the other in to spell the starter if you need to. We need a frigging running game and some continuity might help.'Franknbeans said:I wasn't just referring to yesterday. This is about as undisciplined a team as I have seen fielded by Tomlin.'Godsbrother said:6 of the 9 penalties were holding. I think that is more of an indication of a player being beat by his opponent than it is his being coached improper technique. I guess you can blame Tomlin for having crappy players but remember that three of the holding calls were committed by backups and another on Stephenson Sylvester on a punt return. The only holding calls from a starter were Ramon Foster and Heath Miller.'Franknbeans said:The penalties, which has been a season long problem for them, falls squarely at his feet'Godsbrother said:I didn't like the way he handled the running backs and I question not taking the penalty that would have put the Browns with a 3rd and 18 instead of giving them the chip shot FG but I don't think it cost them the game. As I said in the game thread, the Steelers went into the game with one arm tied behind their back and lost 2 lineman and Woodley during the game, turned the ball over 8 times and committed a ton of very costly penalties. Tomlin isn't blameless but that is a hell of a lot for a coach to overcome.'Franknbeans said:Is it me or is Mike Tomlin making some horrible coaching decisions on pretty much a weekly basis now? The jury is still out on this guy.
I don't think the coach is horrible but the sky IS starting to fall. The odds of beating the Ravens at home is next to zero if Ben doesn't play and if Gilbert isn't ready I am not so sure I would want Ben to play with Beachem at LT -- better to lose the game with Batch.
Yeah, we're injured bu that is the case every year. I just think with the age of this defense, injuries are happening more frequently and are more prolonged and the coaching staff in general has not shown the ability to incorporate the younger replacements. Granted, maybe the subs just aren't that good. I just see this team slipping more and more into a re-building mode.
Not the end of the world by any means. As bad as the Steelers have looked the past 2 weeks, they win both of those games with Ben at QB. Thats not even a question IMO. There are 3 teams in the AFC that are better than a healthy Steelers team (Patriots, Texans and Broncos). I'll take my chances being one of the top 4 teams heading into the playoffs.and... Mike Adams is said to be in a walking boot. Great.
This x 1000.The Browns game was one of the single most gutless performances I have ever witnessed a Steeler team put on tape.But...no need to overreact. All that matters is making the postseason.
Could be nothing...but it sure looked bad.
I had these exact thoughts after the Ravens loss, but after the Browns debacle I don't see how anyone can be hopeful for a deep playoff run.I'm going to keep the faith, but they really have to start playing much better down the stretch to be anything but one and done in the playoffs... no matter who returns from being injured.
The defense has been playing lights-out and that has been without Polamalu. Even when Woodley went out Jason Worilds filled in nicely. Antonio Brown should be back this week and he has been sorely missed. Ben is supposed to practice and could be back for the Ravens game. Unfortunately now the line is banged-up again and if Adams can't play they'll have to shift someone to RT, probably Colon or Foster I guess (anyone but Beachum).The one thing that Tomlin needs to do in my opinion is to figure out what he is doing at RB. This RBBC approach is going nowhere. Just settle on a starter (it should be Dwyer IMO) and let him carry the ball 20+ times.
My guess is that Mendenhall was in line to get at least 50% of the carries this week until the rash of fumblitis spreading through the backs caused that carousel of ineptitude we witnessed.
I think it was Gerry Dulac who called the performance "fumble-by-committee"
If Beachum starts you will likely long for the good old days when Mike Adams was at tackle...
We'll need to surgically attach Miller or Pope to Beachum's hip otherwise RIP Homestead Charlie
Why would they switch Pouncey and Legursky like that? Legursky has experience at RG doesn't he?
Yes he does but I guess the coaching staff thinks Legursky is a better center than guard.
I have confidence in him at center as he's played quite a few games there for them, but Pouncey at RG? I don't think I've ever seen him there. I'm sure he'll be ok, but I just find the decision kind of odd I guess. Messing with what little stability and cohesion they had left on the line.
I was expecting:LT Starks, LG Legursky/DeCastro, C Pouncey, RG Foster, RT Colon orLT Starks, LG Colon, C Pouncey/Legursky, RG DeCastro/Legursky/Pouncey, RT Foster
Considering all the injuries and adjustments needed to be made that win was a thing of beauty.
Kudos to the coaching staff.
I was slamming Beachum last week but played great. I am more than happy to eat a little crow this morning. Could someone please pass the salt?Think some of us (me) owe Beachum and Batch an apology.
Oline played really well. Was also nice to see the defensive backfield not fall apart with Ike out.
Injuries are their main concern. They have depth at most positions.And I'm not going to miss Mike Wallace when they don't meet his salary demands. AB was the right guy to sign.I have to admit, offensive line might be the least of their worries this off-season.Think some of us (me) owe Beachum and Batch an apology.
I'm fine with the OL (may need a LT if Adams isn't the man) and the db's (safety maybe), but really need to get a young backup qb and interior backers. Can't rely on Foote much longer.Injuries are their main concern. They have depth at most positions.And I'm not going to miss Mike Wallace when they don't meet his salary demands. AB was the right guy to sign.I have to admit, offensive line might be the least of their worries this off-season.Think some of us (me) owe Beachum and Batch an apology.
I will never forgive him for that fumble. Based on pre-injury ability, I do think he's the most talented back on the roster. However, I don't think we've seen enough of him to judge that he's back to near 100%. He had the "burst" that none of the others have.
It's all subjective. What if Ben wasn't there to make "the tackle", thus having the Colts win? Would you feel differently about Bettis? Both were horrible times to fumble no doubt, but it does happen, to the best of them. That said, Mendenhall clearly has the most talent of any RB on the roster. I'm not saying give him the starters job back, but at least play the guy some.
I'd consider that play when evaluating Bettis's body of work whether "the tackle" was made or not. For as great as Bettis was, he was far from a clutch player. Specifically in that situation, its completely inexcusable to fumble.To have Mendenhall active, that would probably mean Dwyer or an extra O-Lineman would be inactive. Do I have that right?
