What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

***Official Sweet Science Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Was it Kellerman who just said that should be a 10-8 round? I dont get that, there was no knockdown and it wasnt that dominant of a round

 
Kenny Powers said:
Was it Kellerman who just said that should be a 10-8 round? I dont get that, there was no knockdown and it wasnt that dominant of a round
Click to expand...
I wouldn't have a problem with calling it 10-8. That punch was the most dominant thing that happened all fight. Bradley was on queer street.
 
Poor Tim. Another "tainted" win. Nothing like the Manny BS card, but fans are booing and it will be remembered for the ref F up and not Bradley's solid victory.

 
Of course....not sure I really want to see a rematch because of the ref's miscue here though. I think the rematch would look pretty similar, but if Vargas wins more of those close rounds then it would be real close on the cards.

 
Ilov80s said:
Poor Tim. Another "tainted" win. Nothing like the Manny BS card, but fans are booing and it will be remembered for the ref F up and not Bradley's solid victory.
Click to expand...
yea unfortunately he is going to have to rematch now even though i think he will win that easily.

 
whoknew said:
Steve Tasker said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Steve Tasker said:
What happened?
Click to expand...
You know how there's the 10 second warning before a round ends? The wood-knocks in rapid succession? Yeah, apparently the ref thought that was the bell as Vargas was maybe, possibly, possibly, closing in on a Bradley KO. He was in bad shape. Instead, Bradley wins by decision.
Click to expand...
Boxing totally isn't rigged though.
Click to expand...
Here's the video.
Click to expand...
i cant stand when people cry ''fix'' whenever something doesnt go the way they ''think'' it should...that ref clearly is a 100 years old and should be retired ...bradley can take a punch as well as anyone in boxing and he was moving and holding when possible...he could have just taken a knee if he wanted to ...anyways that was a tad strange but not a big deal ...bradley was far less likely to get knocked out than one might think

 
BustedKnuckles said:
whoknew said:
Steve Tasker said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Steve Tasker said:
What happened?
Click to expand...
You know how there's the 10 second warning before a round ends? The wood-knocks in rapid succession? Yeah, apparently the ref thought that was the bell as Vargas was maybe, possibly, possibly, closing in on a Bradley KO. He was in bad shape. Instead, Bradley wins by decision.
Click to expand...
Boxing totally isn't rigged though.
Click to expand...
Here's the video.
Click to expand...
i cant stand when people cry ''fix'' whenever something doesnt go the way they ''think'' it should...that ref clearly is a 100 years old and should be retired ...bradley can take a punch as well as anyone in boxing and he was moving and holding when possible...he could have just taken a knee if he wanted to ...anyways that was a tad strange but not a big deal ...bradley was far less likely to get knocked out than one might think
Click to expand...
I think you're right, both that it's pure incompetence and not dirty, and that Vargas probably wouldn't have knocked out Bradley. He had just tied him up, and probably had to weather about 6-7 seconds after the break and he would've been fine.

Still, really awful.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
BustedKnuckles said:
whoknew said:
Steve Tasker said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Steve Tasker said:
What happened?
Click to expand...
You know how there's the 10 second warning before a round ends? The wood-knocks in rapid succession? Yeah, apparently the ref thought that was the bell as Vargas was maybe, possibly, possibly, closing in on a Bradley KO. He was in bad shape. Instead, Bradley wins by decision.
Click to expand...
Boxing totally isn't rigged though.
Click to expand...
Here's the video.
Click to expand...
i cant stand when people cry ''fix'' whenever something doesnt go the way they ''think'' it should...that ref clearly is a 100 years old and should be retired ...bradley can take a punch as well as anyone in boxing and he was moving and holding when possible...he could have just taken a knee if he wanted to ...anyways that was a tad strange but not a big deal ...bradley was far less likely to get knocked out than one might think
Click to expand...
I think you're right, both that it's pure incompetence and not dirty, and that Vargas probably wouldn't have knocked out Bradley. He had just tied him up, and probably had to weather about 6-7 seconds after the break and he would've been fine.

Still, really awful.
Click to expand...
the worst stoppage in boxing history that resembled that is Chaves vs Taylor

 
there needs to be an age limit on these refs...old man river tainted the win.

I agree with others, Bradley stays up so didn't really change anything.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
i cant stand when people cry ''fix'' whenever something doesnt go the way they ''think'' it should...that ref clearly is a 100 years old and should be retired ...bradley can take a punch as well as anyone in boxing and he was moving and holding when possible...he could have just taken a knee if he wanted to ...anyways that was a tad strange but not a big deal ...bradley was far less likely to get knocked out than one might think
Click to expand...
You know I'm just ####### around, I love the sport as much as the rest of you guys do. You have to admit though, GPJ's post totally read like the fix was in.

Watching the replay though, just looks like a clueless ref making a poor decision. I don't think Bradley was getting KO'd though, he looked pretty with it. Announcers were saying out on his feet but I don't see it.

Wish I could've watched this one, my PC is all ####ed up.

 
Incompetent ref...Bradley probably stays up but he definitely WAS rocked...damn.

I know it's been mention ad nauseum but I have to say...wow...Freddie Roach has literally resurrected Cotto into something quite impressive.

Cotto/Canelo would be great to watch...

I'd lean Canelo hard...but man...we'd have 3-4 solid rounds of action with those guys.

 
Rewatched Canelo/Kirkland again...good grief...

Canelo can take you apart with either hand.

I know it's not appropo of late to give him any credit but Mayweather really deserves a lot more props for how he's able to disarm his opponents.

 
Taylor was never the same. He lost to Chavez in their next fight by KO in like the 5th rnd. I believe Taylor can barely talk now & is punch drunk. Chavez is the reason. Still Taylor was a real warrior in that 1st fight.

 
whoknew said:
Steve Tasker said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Steve Tasker said:
What happened?
Click to expand...
You know how there's the 10 second warning before a round ends? The wood-knocks in rapid succession? Yeah, apparently the ref thought that was the bell as Vargas was maybe, possibly, possibly, closing in on a Bradley KO. He was in bad shape. Instead, Bradley wins by decision.
Click to expand...
Boxing totally isn't rigged though.
Click to expand...
Here's the video.
Click to expand...
jeebus. feel bad for grandpa ref there.... bad in that he should be retired on a beach in FL rather than having anything to do with a championship fight.

 
Daywalker said:
Ilov80s said:
Except Taylor was being destroyed in the corner and was defenseless.
Click to expand...
Defenseless when the ref was talking to him in the corner with 10 seconds left?
Click to expand...
He couldn't even stand up without holding on to the ropes. The refs job isn't to say, well there's only 10 more seconds and you are winning so it's worth the risk that you can defend yourself here. If you are out on your feet and can't fight anymore, you have lost. It doesn't matter how much time is left. Considering Taylor was never the same and has significant cognitive issues today, it's a good thing he Chavez wasn't allowed a free 2 or 3 punches.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ilov80s said:
Daywalker said:
Ilov80s said:
Except Taylor was being destroyed in the corner and was defenseless.
Click to expand...
Defenseless when the ref was talking to him in the corner with 10 seconds left?
Click to expand...
He couldn't even stand up without holding on to the ropes. The refs job isn't to say, well there's only 10 more seconds and you are winning so it's worth the risk that you can defend yourself here. If you are out on your feet and can't fight anymore, you have lost. It doesn't matter how much time is left. Considering Taylor was never the same and has significant cognitive issues today, it's a good thing he Chavez wasn't allowed a free 2 or 3 punches.
Click to expand...
normally id agree with you ...you know your stuff when it comes to boxing...but with less than 5 seconds left in the last rd of a fight that the ref HAD to have known taylor was winning and that the rd had to be almost thru , waving it off at that time was wrong...even taylor was like ''WHAT ? '' He rose immediately after being knocked down...i will never agree that he couldn't last even 10 more seconds ,let alone 3 or 4 ...how hard is it for a ref to look at the clock in such an important fight

 
Last edited by a moderator:
BustedKnuckles said:
Ilov80s said:
Daywalker said:
Ilov80s said:
Except Taylor was being destroyed in the corner and was defenseless.
Click to expand...
Defenseless when the ref was talking to him in the corner with 10 seconds left?
Click to expand...
He couldn't even stand up without holding on to the ropes. The refs job isn't to say, well there's only 10 more seconds and you are winning so it's worth the risk that you can defend yourself here. If you are out on your feet and can't fight anymore, you have lost. It doesn't matter how much time is left. Considering Taylor was never the same and has significant cognitive issues today, it's a good thing he Chavez wasn't allowed a free 2 or 3 punches.
Click to expand...
normally id agree with you ...you know your stuff when it comes to boxing...but with less than 5 seconds left in the last rd of a fight that the ref HAD to have known taylor was winning and that the rd had to be almost thru , waving it off at that time was wrong...even taylor was like ''WHAT ? '' He rose immediately after being knocked down...i will never agree that he couldn't last even 10 more seconds ,let alone 3 or 4 ...how hard is it for a ref to look at the clock in such an important fight
Click to expand...
The ref is neutral. It isn't his job to determine who is winning or strategize what will help a fighter win. He didn't think Taylor was able to continue and he stopped the fight. How much time is left or who was winning is irrelevant.
 
Ilov80s said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Ilov80s said:
Daywalker said:
Ilov80s said:
Except Taylor was being destroyed in the corner and was defenseless.
Click to expand...
Defenseless when the ref was talking to him in the corner with 10 seconds left?
Click to expand...
He couldn't even stand up without holding on to the ropes. The refs job isn't to say, well there's only 10 more seconds and you are winning so it's worth the risk that you can defend yourself here. If you are out on your feet and can't fight anymore, you have lost. It doesn't matter how much time is left. Considering Taylor was never the same and has significant cognitive issues today, it's a good thing he Chavez wasn't allowed a free 2 or 3 punches.
Click to expand...
normally id agree with you ...you know your stuff when it comes to boxing...but with less than 5 seconds left in the last rd of a fight that the ref HAD to have known taylor was winning and that the rd had to be almost thru , waving it off at that time was wrong...even taylor was like ''WHAT ? '' He rose immediately after being knocked down...i will never agree that he couldn't last even 10 more seconds ,let alone 3 or 4 ...how hard is it for a ref to look at the clock in such an important fight
Click to expand...
The ref is neutral. It isn't his job to determine who is winning or strategize what will help a fighter win. He didn't think Taylor was able to continue and he stopped the fight. How much time is left or who was winning is irrelevant.
Click to expand...
so Refs never institute personal logic and judgment during a fight?

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Ilov80s said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Ilov80s said:
Daywalker said:
Ilov80s said:
Except Taylor was being destroyed in the corner and was defenseless.
Click to expand...
Defenseless when the ref was talking to him in the corner with 10 seconds left?
Click to expand...
He couldn't even stand up without holding on to the ropes. The refs job isn't to say, well there's only 10 more seconds and you are winning so it's worth the risk that you can defend yourself here. If you are out on your feet and can't fight anymore, you have lost. It doesn't matter how much time is left. Considering Taylor was never the same and has significant cognitive issues today, it's a good thing he Chavez wasn't allowed a free 2 or 3 punches.
Click to expand...
normally id agree with you ...you know your stuff when it comes to boxing...but with less than 5 seconds left in the last rd of a fight that the ref HAD to have known taylor was winning and that the rd had to be almost thru , waving it off at that time was wrong...even taylor was like ''WHAT ? '' He rose immediately after being knocked down...i will never agree that he couldn't last even 10 more seconds ,let alone 3 or 4 ...how hard is it for a ref to look at the clock in such an important fight
Click to expand...
The ref is neutral. It isn't his job to determine who is winning or strategize what will help a fighter win. He didn't think Taylor was able to continue and he stopped the fight. How much time is left or who was winning is irrelevant.
Click to expand...
so Refs never institute personal logic and judgment during a fight?
Click to expand...
Logic and judgement are important. They should never be applied with the intent of helping a fighter hold on for a win. That is so obviously the opposite of unbiased.
 
tdoss said:
Rewatched Canelo/Kirkland again...good grief...

Canelo can take you apart with either hand.

I know it's not appropo of late to give him any credit but Mayweather really deserves a lot more props for how he's able to disarm his opponents.
Click to expand...
Canelo/Cotto is apparently getting close...Mayweather seriously seems to be considering De La Hoya and GGG really isn't going to have anyone to fight, but at least we'll have that.

 
Mayweather/De La Hoya should be poo poo'ed by every fight fan in existence...make sure those guys know that there is NO money to be had making that matchup.

 
tdoss said:
Mayweather/De La Hoya should be poo poo'ed by every fight fan in existence...make sure those guys know that there is NO money to be had making that matchup.
Click to expand...
DLH announced today that he's staying retired. Thank goodness.

I think Brook is the best-case scenario. Khan would be fine, I guess. Thurman fights in a couple of weeks so he's not an option.

 
tdoss said:
Mayweather/De La Hoya should be poo poo'ed by every fight fan in existence...make sure those guys know that there is NO money to be had making that matchup.
Click to expand...
I think Floyd floated DLH and Mayfield so when he fights Khan people are tricked into being excited for it.

 
Ah...maybe.

But I'd think there'd be excitement anyway...weren't most calling for Khan to fight Mayweather for a while now?

 
tdoss said:
BustedKnuckles said:
tdoss said:
BustedKnuckles said:
PinkydaPimp said:
Golovkin trimming down to 154lbs

:popcorn:
Click to expand...
no way does Payweather take this fight....nooooo waaay
Click to expand...
If he does...and he wins...doing what he always does...would you respect him and his talents then?
Click to expand...
his talents as a pure boxer yes...as a person ...never
Click to expand...
Ah...yea...he's not someone in the running for any humanitarian awards.
Click to expand...
BTW i already respect his boxing abilities...hes a scientist who takes no risks because he doesnt have to...hes never been in a situation where he had to score a KO to win...hes always so far ahead on the score cards he just has to move and box every fight...thats talent ...boring ...but talent...i root against him because of his personality

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Pip's Invitation
The THIRD 100 from 1971. #1: Echoes
5 6 7
Replies
310
Views
19K
BobbyLayne
BobbyLayne
Good Posting Judge
Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury **OFFICIAL THREAD** -- December 1 SHO PPV
Replies
3
Views
698
Frostillicus
Frostillicus
Pip's Invitation
The Next 100 Songs from 1975, aka Sanbornpalooza. #1: Black Friday
9 10 11
Replies
527
Views
32K
Pip's Invitation
Pip's Invitation

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top