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## OFFICIAL ## Taylor Swift thread (2 Viewers)

Thought Swift is the superstar, Andrea has become a favorite among Swift's fans, often earning cheers from audiences at live shows and taking photos with fans.

Swift also encouraged her young fans to remind their parents to go to the doctor and get check-ups.

 
Well, color me a little disappointed. However, if they were to make those characters into a comic book or a movie... I'd go see it.

 
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Since I'm not sure if I'm authorized to use *** OFFICIAL *** I went with ## OFFICIAL ##. :D

 
Does anybody wake up thinking they'd like to listen to a Taylor Swift song?

Just never heard one, and if I did, I never listened to it all the way through. Might be a nice place to talk about female celebrity and #### and ###. Because she has those, and they're for females.

 
rockaction said:
Does anybody wake up thinking they'd like to listen to a Taylor Swift song?

Just never heard one, and if I did, I never listened to it all the way through. Might be a nice place to talk about female celebrity and #### and ###. Because she has those, and they're for females.
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I enjoy her music.
 
rockaction said:
Does anybody wake up thinking they'd like to listen to a Taylor Swift song?

Just never heard one, and if I did, I never listened to it all the way through. Might be a nice place to talk about female celebrity and #### and ###. Because she has those, and they're for females.
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Here's the key..... She's not writing for you.... She's setting records for Sales and concert tickets for Her audience.

I never wake up thinking I'd love to hear a Pavarroti song... I'm pretty sure he's a success and ppl do tho...

 
rockaction said:
Does anybody wake up thinking they'd like to listen to a Taylor Swift song?

Just never heard one, and if I did, I never listened to it all the way through. Might be a nice place to talk about female celebrity and #### and ###. Because she has those, and they're for females.
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You're not a girl between 12 and 25...unless of course you are. :oldunsure:

 
Tom Servo said:
rockaction said:
Does anybody wake up thinking they'd like to listen to a Taylor Swift song?

Just never heard one, and if I did, I never listened to it all the way through. Might be a nice place to talk about female celebrity and #### and ###. Because she has those, and they're for females.
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You're not a girl between 12 and 25...unless of course you are. :oldunsure:
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If I was, it would be the greatest time in Western History to be so. :grad:

Can you imagine a better time?

GB T Swift, and good luck to her.

 
My wife just took my 13YO daughter to her concert down in Shreveport. Mrs. Karpis said it was one of the most entertaining shows she's ever seen. Elaborate staging, special effects, etc.

Teen girls are definitely the target audience.

 
If I were a denizen of the Shark Pool only, I would use the knowledge that this forum is full of teenaged girls against us. Of course, if I were a denizen of the Shark Pool, the taunts and jokes would be half-witted.

 
Ray Karpis said:
My wife just took my 13YO daughter to her concert down in Shreveport. Mrs. Karpis said it was one of the most entertaining shows she's ever seen. Elaborate staging, special effects, etc.

Teen girls are definitely the target audience.
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So Taylor Swift and Homer J. Simpson have that in common.

 
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Our friend Tyler has some pics of Swift up now. There is something that is just a bit off with her in pics that are not photoshopped. Just a weird body type/look about her.

 
To Apple, Love Taylor

I write this to explain why I’ll be holding back my album, 1989, from the new streaming service, Apple Music. I feel this deserves an explanation because Apple has been and will continue to be one of my best partners in selling music and creating ways for me to connect with my fans. I respect the company and the truly ingenious minds that have created a legacy based on innovation and pushing the right boundaries.

I’m sure you are aware that Apple Music will be offering a free 3 month trial to anyone who signs up for the service. I’m not sure you know that Apple Music will not be paying writers, producers, or artists for those three months. I find it to be shocking, disappointing, and completely unlike this historically progressive and generous company.

This is not about me. Thankfully I am on my fifth album and can support myself, my band, crew, and entire management team by playing live shows. This is about the new artist or band that has just released their first single and will not be paid for its success. This is about the young songwriter who just got his or her first cut and thought that the royalties from that would get them out of debt. This is about the producer who works tirelessly to innovate and create, just like the innovators and creators at Apple are pioneering in their field…but will not get paid for a quarter of a year’s worth of plays on his or her songs.

These are not the complaints of a spoiled, petulant child. These are the echoed sentiments of every artist, writer and producer in my social circles who are afraid to speak up publicly because we admire and respect Apple so much. We simply do not respect this particular call.

I realize that Apple is working towards a goal of paid streaming. I think that is beautiful progress. We know how astronomically successful Apple has been and we know that this incredible company has the money to pay artists, writers and producers for the 3 month trial period… even if it is free for the fans trying it out.

Three months is a long time to go unpaid, and it is unfair to ask anyone to work for nothing. I say this with love, reverence, and admiration for everything else Apple has done. I hope that soon I can join them in the progression towards a streaming model that seems fair to those who create this music. I think this could be the platform that gets it right.

But I say to Apple with all due respect, it’s not too late to change this policy and change the minds of those in the music industry who will be deeply and gravely affected by this. We don’t ask you for free iPhones. Please don’t ask us to provide you with our music for no compensation.

Taylor

 
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What a great written piece by Taylor Swift above. We all knew she could write songs but she is now an essayist. She is already at a 10 but this shows her intelligence and compassion. When she writes her first book, I'm getting it signed.

 
I have a friend who was in the headliner band when Taylor was a fill-in act on one of her first tours. She's a genuinely nice person. It's not an act. Her parents also live near me. Very nice people.

 
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Mario Kart said:
What a great written piece by Taylor Swift above. We all knew she could write songs but she is now an essayist. She is already at a 10 but this shows her intelligence and compassion. When she writes her first book, I'm getting it signed.
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Is this stick? If it is, it's actually not too bad.

 
I love it. Today's biggest artist (I think - not sure who else is close) challenges Apple on behalf of other musicians, not herself, and Apple backs down within seconds. What a cool young woman.

 
While I agree Apple should definitely cut into their $200BB cash horde to pay artists over the trial... Swift has a bit of hypocrisy flowing here with her "Artists should be paid for their work / We don't work for free" manifesto.

It kinda reeks of a "I stand for artists rights and proper compensation of content creators....when it benefits me"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a654223/photographer-pens-open-letter-to-taylor-swift-how-are-you-any-different-to-apple.html

Photographer Jason Sheldon has now penned an open letter to Swift, supporting her battle against Apple but calling on her to change her own stance on image rights.

Sheldon wrote: "I applaud it. It's great to have someone with a huge following standing up for the rights of creative people and making a stand against the corporate behemoths who have so much power they can make or break someone's career."

However, he went on to post a contract photographers are asked to sign when they attend her concerts, which stipulates that the photographs can only be used once and that worldwide rights belong to the artist.

He continued: "How are you any different to Apple? If you don't like being exploited, that's great... make a huge statement about it, and you'll have my support. But how about making sure you're not guilty of the very same tactic before you have a pop at someone else?

"Photographers need to earn a living as well. Like Apple, you can afford to pay for photographs so please stop forcing us to hand them over to you while you prevent us from publishing them more than once, ever.

"With all due respect to you too Taylor, you can do the right thing and change your photo policy. Photographers don't ask for your music for free. Please don't ask us to provide you with your marketing material for free."
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Original blog entry including Swift's photography release

 
[icon] said:
While I agree Apple should definitely cut into their $200BB cash horde to pay artists over the trial... Swift has a bit of hypocrisy flowing here with her "Artists should be paid for their work / We don't work for free" manifesto.

It kinda reeks of a "I stand for artists rights and proper compensation of content creators....when it benefits me"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a654223/photographer-pens-open-letter-to-taylor-swift-how-are-you-any-different-to-apple.html

Photographer Jason Sheldon has now penned an open letter to Swift, supporting her battle against Apple but calling on her to change her own stance on image rights.Sheldon wrote: "I applaud it. It's great to have someone with a huge following standing up for the rights of creative people and making a stand against the corporate behemoths who have so much power they can make or break someone's career."

However, he went on to post a contract photographers are asked to sign when they attend her concerts, which stipulates that the photographs can only be used once and that worldwide rights belong to the artist.

He continued: "How are you any different to Apple? If you don't like being exploited, that's great... make a huge statement about it, and you'll have my support. But how about making sure you're not guilty of the very same tactic before you have a pop at someone else?

"Photographers need to earn a living as well. Like Apple, you can afford to pay for photographs so please stop forcing us to hand them over to you while you prevent us from publishing them more than once, ever."With all due respect to you too Taylor, you can do the right thing and change your photo policy. Photographers don't ask for your music for free. Please don't ask us to provide you with your marketing material for free."
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Original blog entry including Swift's photography release
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Nah, that's like if a radio station asking Taylor to agree to record her song and then they own that recording of the song and can do with it whatever they like. If the photographer doesn't like the policy and feels that he/she doesn't get paid for photos taken of Taylor during her concerts, he/she shouldn't take the photos. They lose nothing because they weren't going to get anything in the first place, and Taylor doesn't get them to provide her with marketing material for free.

The whole reason someone will want to buy the picture is because it's of Taylor. She has a right to the recorded versions of her music, why not the same right to the recorded versions of her image?

 
bcdjr1 said:
[icon] said:
While I agree Apple should definitely cut into their $200BB cash horde to pay artists over the trial... Swift has a bit of hypocrisy flowing here with her "Artists should be paid for their work / We don't work for free" manifesto.

It kinda reeks of a "I stand for artists rights and proper compensation of content creators....when it benefits me"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a654223/photographer-pens-open-letter-to-taylor-swift-how-are-you-any-different-to-apple.html

Photographer Jason Sheldon has now penned an open letter to Swift, supporting her battle against Apple but calling on her to change her own stance on image rights.

Sheldon wrote: "I applaud it. It's great to have someone with a huge following standing up for the rights of creative people and making a stand against the corporate behemoths who have so much power they can make or break someone's career."

However, he went on to post a contract photographers are asked to sign when they attend her concerts, which stipulates that the photographs can only be used once and that worldwide rights belong to the artist.

He continued: "How are you any different to Apple? If you don't like being exploited, that's great... make a huge statement about it, and you'll have my support. But how about making sure you're not guilty of the very same tactic before you have a pop at someone else?

"Photographers need to earn a living as well. Like Apple, you can afford to pay for photographs so please stop forcing us to hand them over to you while you prevent us from publishing them more than once, ever.

"With all due respect to you too Taylor, you can do the right thing and change your photo policy. Photographers don't ask for your music for free. Please don't ask us to provide you with your marketing material for free."
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Original blog entry including Swift's photography release
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Nah, that's like if a radio station asking Taylor to agree to record her song and then they own that recording of the song and can do with it whatever they like. If the photographer doesn't like the policy and feels that he/she doesn't get paid for photos taken of Taylor during her concerts, he/she shouldn't take the photos. They lose nothing because they weren't going to get anything in the first place, and Taylor doesn't get them to provide her with marketing material for free.The whole reason someone will want to buy the picture is because it's of Taylor. She has a right to the recorded versions of her music, why not the same right to the recorded versions of her image?
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By that logic, Taylor should just pull her music from Apple. She'll lose nothing, right?

 
eoMMan said:
bcdjr1 said:
[icon] said:
While I agree Apple should definitely cut into their $200BB cash horde to pay artists over the trial... Swift has a bit of hypocrisy flowing here with her "Artists should be paid for their work / We don't work for free" manifesto.

It kinda reeks of a "I stand for artists rights and proper compensation of content creators....when it benefits me"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a654223/photographer-pens-open-letter-to-taylor-swift-how-are-you-any-different-to-apple.html

Photographer Jason Sheldon has now penned an open letter to Swift, supporting her battle against Apple but calling on her to change her own stance on image rights.

Sheldon wrote: "I applaud it. It's great to have someone with a huge following standing up for the rights of creative people and making a stand against the corporate behemoths who have so much power they can make or break someone's career."

However, he went on to post a contract photographers are asked to sign when they attend her concerts, which stipulates that the photographs can only be used once and that worldwide rights belong to the artist.

He continued: "How are you any different to Apple? If you don't like being exploited, that's great... make a huge statement about it, and you'll have my support. But how about making sure you're not guilty of the very same tactic before you have a pop at someone else?

"Photographers need to earn a living as well. Like Apple, you can afford to pay for photographs so please stop forcing us to hand them over to you while you prevent us from publishing them more than once, ever.

"With all due respect to you too Taylor, you can do the right thing and change your photo policy. Photographers don't ask for your music for free. Please don't ask us to provide you with your marketing material for free."
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Original blog entry including Swift's photography release
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Nah, that's like if a radio station asking Taylor to agree to record her song and then they own that recording of the song and can do with it whatever they like. If the photographer doesn't like the policy and feels that he/she doesn't get paid for photos taken of Taylor during her concerts, he/she shouldn't take the photos. They lose nothing because they weren't going to get anything in the first place, and Taylor doesn't get them to provide her with marketing material for free.The whole reason someone will want to buy the picture is because it's of Taylor. She has a right to the recorded versions of her music, why not the same right to the recorded versions of her image?
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By that logic, Taylor should just pull her music from Apple. She'll lose nothing, right?
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That's what she was going to do before they changed their minds. Which is why they changed their minds.

 
eoMMan said:
bcdjr1 said:
[icon] said:
While I agree Apple should definitely cut into their $200BB cash horde to pay artists over the trial... Swift has a bit of hypocrisy flowing here with her "Artists should be paid for their work / We don't work for free" manifesto.

It kinda reeks of a "I stand for artists rights and proper compensation of content creators....when it benefits me"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a654223/photographer-pens-open-letter-to-taylor-swift-how-are-you-any-different-to-apple.html

Photographer Jason Sheldon has now penned an open letter to Swift, supporting her battle against Apple but calling on her to change her own stance on image rights.

Sheldon wrote: "I applaud it. It's great to have someone with a huge following standing up for the rights of creative people and making a stand against the corporate behemoths who have so much power they can make or break someone's career."

However, he went on to post a contract photographers are asked to sign when they attend her concerts, which stipulates that the photographs can only be used once and that worldwide rights belong to the artist.

He continued: "How are you any different to Apple? If you don't like being exploited, that's great... make a huge statement about it, and you'll have my support. But how about making sure you're not guilty of the very same tactic before you have a pop at someone else?

"Photographers need to earn a living as well. Like Apple, you can afford to pay for photographs so please stop forcing us to hand them over to you while you prevent us from publishing them more than once, ever.

"With all due respect to you too Taylor, you can do the right thing and change your photo policy. Photographers don't ask for your music for free. Please don't ask us to provide you with your marketing material for free."
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Original blog entry including Swift's photography release
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Nah, that's like if a radio station asking Taylor to agree to record her song and then they own that recording of the song and can do with it whatever they like. If the photographer doesn't like the policy and feels that he/she doesn't get paid for photos taken of Taylor during her concerts, he/she shouldn't take the photos. They lose nothing because they weren't going to get anything in the first place, and Taylor doesn't get them to provide her with marketing material for free.The whole reason someone will want to buy the picture is because it's of Taylor. She has a right to the recorded versions of her music, why not the same right to the recorded versions of her image?
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By that logic, Taylor should just pull her music from Apple. She'll lose nothing, right?
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So you did read what happened here, right?

:oldunsure:

 
Heh. IP always cuts both ways. I would rarely side with the artist, because chances are, if the multi-multi-multi-millionaire artist is complaining about money, chances are she's gaming the IP or contract system in a way that benefits her at the expense of the public.

Color me skeptical.

 
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