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***OFFICIAL*** The Shield - Season 7 (1 Viewer)
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On The Rocks
Footballguy
Clark Johnson - he played the Marshall that brought Corrine and the kids to their new home. He directed Season 1 Episode 1.Also had a credit as the Director of this last episode. He was Detective Meldrick Lewis on Homicide and had a roll in the final season of The Wire.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I guess I thought more of Vic. I can see him originally doing whatever he could to save his ex wife. However, once he found out that she had turned on him and he knew that he had made a mistake, I expected him to change courses and either take the hit himself or die trying to get Ronnie out from under the mess. Afterall, once his wife had turned and they were hiding his kids on him, he could have run with Ronnie. Would have been wholely unsatisfactory for us viewers but that decision would seem to be more in character than letting Ronnie go down without a fight.
Big_Russel
Footballguy
The more it sits with me, the greater I think this finale was. Wow...just wow.
pretty f'in amazing. god am i sick to my stomach that this show is over. sure was a great finale though.
so, after one long, hard moment of reflection, vic sucks it up and puts it all behind him and is able to somehow move on with a clear conscience, as only he could. a sick man indeed. he's alive, free, and kicking, and that's really all that he has ever cared about.
wasn't a huge fan of bringing Andre 3000 back into the show just to force some last-minute moral dilemmas of law enforcement to chew on. a little unnecessary and sanctimonious, but that was just a minor blip for me.
safe to say, the 3 most memorable scenes looking back on the series will be:
1) Lem's Death
2) The shot of shane's dead wife and kid(s)
3) The final scene of Vic reflecting, processing, then moving on with his life.
Best show in tv history. Bravo.
so, after one long, hard moment of reflection, vic sucks it up and puts it all behind him and is able to somehow move on with a clear conscience, as only he could. a sick man indeed. he's alive, free, and kicking, and that's really all that he has ever cared about.
wasn't a huge fan of bringing Andre 3000 back into the show just to force some last-minute moral dilemmas of law enforcement to chew on. a little unnecessary and sanctimonious, but that was just a minor blip for me.
safe to say, the 3 most memorable scenes looking back on the series will be:
1) Lem's Death
2) The shot of shane's dead wife and kid(s)
3) The final scene of Vic reflecting, processing, then moving on with his life.
Best show in tv history. Bravo.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Wow. Not what I expected, but I'm not surprised either.
Vic was always the Alpha Dog, he made it out, but into a hell of his own making. He's a survivor, though. He could probably find his kids if he tries hard enough.
Shane was always the next in line to Vic. Almost as good, but not quite. He had no way out, nor did his wife. Live by the gun, die by the gun. Even if it's you pulling the trigger on yourself. Was surprised he took his kid with him, though. Not Mara, she had nowhere to go but down.
Ronnie... Was really always a nobody until this last season. I think if Lem was still around Vic would have saved him because of his innocence and altruism, but that didn't apply to Ronnie, he was just always along for the ride.
The one thing I think was flawed about this last season was how quickly Corinne turned on Vic. I mean, even the Armenian money train Vic did for his kids, he obviously cared about them. And Corinne had supported him and accepted questionable money from him before. All of a sudden she thinks he's a danger to the kids? Please.
Other slight flaw was that he didn't give Ronnie an out, but I think he wanted to and didn't have time. Also, see above on Ronnie.
Other than that, great series and great final season.
Vic was always the Alpha Dog, he made it out, but into a hell of his own making. He's a survivor, though. He could probably find his kids if he tries hard enough.
Shane was always the next in line to Vic. Almost as good, but not quite. He had no way out, nor did his wife. Live by the gun, die by the gun. Even if it's you pulling the trigger on yourself. Was surprised he took his kid with him, though. Not Mara, she had nowhere to go but down.
Ronnie... Was really always a nobody until this last season. I think if Lem was still around Vic would have saved him because of his innocence and altruism, but that didn't apply to Ronnie, he was just always along for the ride.
The one thing I think was flawed about this last season was how quickly Corinne turned on Vic. I mean, even the Armenian money train Vic did for his kids, he obviously cared about them. And Corinne had supported him and accepted questionable money from him before. All of a sudden she thinks he's a danger to the kids? Please.
Other slight flaw was that he didn't give Ronnie an out, but I think he wanted to and didn't have time. Also, see above on Ronnie.
Other than that, great series and great final season.
Great finale? What's wrong with you guys? You liked seeing Vic go against character in the final show? The all-too-easy divvying out of happy endings to all the characters not in the strike team and worst case scenarios for everyone in the strike team? It's boring judgmental writing and frankly ruins the final season for me, the way a bad sequel can ruin the original movie.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Dude, did you thing the Strike team was going to have a happy ending? Because if you did, I want some of what you're smoking. Shane was a dead man walking. Sure, Vic and Ronnie could have run for the border, but then people would have cried foul because of that. It was a great finale to a great show. Watch it again.
Watch it again? I'm going to try to wipe it from my memory.While I admit it has looked more and more with each show that it would be a most unhappy ending for Vic and co., I hoped we'd have a bit more of a mixed ending with the same moral ambiguity that made the other shows great. Instead I get Claudette smiling while looking in on that cake celebration, the over-the-top here's your new home scene with Corrinne, Vic's fed contact having no purpose in the show other than to heap scorn on Vic in order to beat it into the viewers' heads that Vic is bad, the over-the-top ending to Shane's thread with him killing his wife and kid in a heaven's gate scenario (damn, man you are smoking something if you didn't groan when you saw this coming at the beginning of tonight's show), Dutch getting out of that serial killer threat thanks to some brilliant examination by Claudette, and so forth. It's a pious hallmark ending to a show that had always been careful to divvy out good and bad to the different sets of characters.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
A quality retort, you've given me much to think about!
TexanFan02
Footballguy
dparker713
Footballguy
You really think these were all good outcomes for everyone but the strike team? Geez, Claudette has a death sentence, and her Ahab got away. Things could have been MUCH worse for Vic. He has to do 3 years at a desk and then he's scott free, sure he'll need to be patient before finding his kids but he did pretty well. Corrine had to relocate and leave everyone and everything behind to live in a crap house. Dutch is still the same misfit of a human being, unable to notice a chance at a normal life. And Acevada as mayor seems like a case of be careful what you wish for. Oh yeah, and Vic's confessions may or may not be enough to keep Ronnie locked up. You've got a seriously weird take on this final.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Your Mother
Footballguy
It should be remembered in this episode that Vic (and Ronnie) took down Beltran and the drugs. A big win on the streets, but with a price to pay afterward, which pretty much sums up the show.The finale was very logical in how things played out. I guess it's too bad that it didn't make sense in terms of what you wanted to see.
That whole happy ending post makes no sense given that the overriding message of the episode is that our protagonist is practically suicidal and his sidekick killed himself. My interpretation of the ending is one of emptiness and hopelessness, good that you feel cosy about these outcomes though guy, maybe you should turn it into a bedtime story.
Your Mother
Footballguy
It was hard for me to believe that they'd have Shane OD his son, good for them for not pulling a punch here like I did.
Your Mother
Footballguy
Yeah, Mackey's pretty ####### miserable. To him, a desk job might even be worse than jail. The HR lady showing him everything about the office was a dagger.
even though you made 5 predictions and only got half of one right, i'll give you props for the call. impressive.oh, you were also right about Tina. that girl is heart-meltingly hot. hope to see her on something else in the future. seems like a decent enough actress too.
I certainly wouldn't call it anything close to a happy ending for Vic, but I don't think he was ever suicidal.
anakin
Footballguy
Funny thing about Clark Johnson..he is listed as the handsome agent in the credits. That made me laugh. The series finale was not satisfying as no one got off the hook. Vic turning his back on Ronnie was unexpected. Vic simply became the guy that he hated. He ratted out his friend, helped his best friend/best enemy Shane destroy a family, pushed his own family away, and became a desk guy that he always hated about Aceveda being. Shawn Ryan wanted the final message to be..the road to justice is twisted..indeed.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
I am really looking forward to viewing the Directors Commentary on DVD when it comes out..... especially that final episode.
CiderHouse
Footballguy
Some good reading about the last episode and the series.
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.s...n_postfina.html
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.s...n_postfina.html
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
Fantastic finale. The Vendrel "family meeting" was just so horrific. That was incredibly jarring and dark. Quick question...Shane wrote in his note that Mara didn't know what she was drinking. We debated that and thought that she did know. When she told Shane to 'take her home' in the 2nd to last episode...she knew that was the end. It's easy to argue the other side of that because of Jackson and the baby though. Either way...totally sick.
Things I loved about the episode:
That Aceveda got his 'end game'. The crooked politicians getting their way was a theme throughout the series.
I don't like the Claudette character...but I loved her line to Vic when he said to bill him for the broken camera. "First payment is coming due right now."
Ronnie's "You're sorry???" line and look on his face. Self preservation above all for Vic. I think it DOES go along with his character that Ronnie got hung out to dry. Vic always saved himself first and then leveraged things to help the team. This time he ran too far up the ladder. He made the bust and made the play and tried to make the end justify the means...but ICE was just too big for Vic. He couldn't sway them because they didn't need him like everybody else he dealt with.
I like that they didn't go for the 'cheap' reaction death. I thought Julian or Tina would bite it to make an impact and have the finale seem crazy. Glad they didn't go that route. Julian looked at the gay couple and got lost in a train of thought and Tina made it through her first year. Perfect ending for minor characters. Same with Billings. He's still a #####...but a funny guy that tries to make everybody think highly of him while not doing anything.
The end. Vic lost it all. Family, friends, the work he loved. But he still had himself. When he grabbed the gun and walked out into the night...all I could think of was him hunting down bad guys vigilante style at night while still working the desk jockey job. He's sick, he's twisted, he's alone...don't cross that sum##### because he WILL survive and take you down.
Things I loved about the episode:
That Aceveda got his 'end game'. The crooked politicians getting their way was a theme throughout the series.
I don't like the Claudette character...but I loved her line to Vic when he said to bill him for the broken camera. "First payment is coming due right now."
Ronnie's "You're sorry???" line and look on his face. Self preservation above all for Vic. I think it DOES go along with his character that Ronnie got hung out to dry. Vic always saved himself first and then leveraged things to help the team. This time he ran too far up the ladder. He made the bust and made the play and tried to make the end justify the means...but ICE was just too big for Vic. He couldn't sway them because they didn't need him like everybody else he dealt with.
I like that they didn't go for the 'cheap' reaction death. I thought Julian or Tina would bite it to make an impact and have the finale seem crazy. Glad they didn't go that route. Julian looked at the gay couple and got lost in a train of thought and Tina made it through her first year. Perfect ending for minor characters. Same with Billings. He's still a #####...but a funny guy that tries to make everybody think highly of him while not doing anything.
The end. Vic lost it all. Family, friends, the work he loved. But he still had himself. When he grabbed the gun and walked out into the night...all I could think of was him hunting down bad guys vigilante style at night while still working the desk jockey job. He's sick, he's twisted, he's alone...don't cross that sum##### because he WILL survive and take you down.
fierce_corgi
Footballguy
Whatever you do, leave that casserole in the fridge labeled "Vic" alone.Your Mother said:
On The Rocks
Footballguy
That was a great read....give me a hint of what the DVD commentary will be like. I thought this was interesting.CiderHouse said:
saintfool
Dead sexy
i think, for Vic, a desk job like that - where he is simply a drone - is as close to prison as he will get. he's never going to see action or have the autonomy he was used to. that was the great pleasure of watching this anti-hero in the finale. everything he fought for over the years turned to ####. his rep among the cops at the barn is tarnished. everyone close to him hates him and taken from him. what's left? this crummy little desk job for the next 3 years that he has to fulfill in order to protect himself?Vic absorbed blow after blow in the finale and, ultimately, will be just fine. He hated himself - briefly - before moving on. He's just got to do this desk job for 3 years before he can get into some #### again. He can do that easily enough.Your Mother said:
Statorama
Footballguy
"Whoever ate my buddig beef has 10 seconds to confess before I pour the antidote down the toilet"
saintfool
Dead sexy
i was actually hoping that it was a scam from billings. like he had someone pose as the lawyer so that dutch would change his statement. he could then get the settlement he wanted. other thing i wanted to see...- claudette tells dutch to go home after his attempts to break the serial killer fail. he returns to his place to find her dead body and is more deeply implicated in the kid's case as a result. he finds himself in a worsening situation for trying to play around with this serial killer.
Oscar
Footballguy
Glad I read that article. Very good read.When I went to bed last night, I was a little disappointed with the ending but after thinking about it some more, I thought it was very well done.CiderHouse said:
Some of the things I wish had happened:
-I really thought Vic was going to do the right thing by Ronnie. I envisioned a scenario where Vic would be willing to give up his immunity in exchange for Ronnie to have his. Once Vic lost his family, my thinking was that he probably felt he lost everything so what is the difference where he spends the rest of his life. I was also thinking that since the downfall of all of his friends/strike team were his fault, he would at least do right by Ronnie. I guess not.
-I also thought the whole serial killer thing with Dutch was going to turn into him being a serial killer. This, IMO would explain his intrigue with this kid who was one also. Their interaction kept bringing me back to the strangling of the cat scene from a few seasons back but if you read this article, it was just a one time thing.
-I found myself pulling for Shane or I guess for Jackson. The whole time I felt really bad for Jackson thinking about what was going to happen to him once his parents got arrested. Because of him, I guess I was hoping that Shane and his family were going to be able to escape. Once they got to their old apartment, I knew it was the end. To see them lying on the bed next to each other was very moving. Possibly the most moving scene in any episode of the Shield, IMO.
But the whole "3-years in desk-job hell" makes perfect sense. I'd definitely love to see a spin-off or movie to keep this going. I'm glad to see the creator hasn't ruled any of that out. This has always been my favorite show to watch so last night was a pretty sad once the credits hit for me.
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Your Mother
Footballguy
This is good backseat driving.kd1 said:
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Hope everyone now knows that Vic is clearly the worst out of the bunch. Guy would sell his mother down the river. Ronnie won't last a week in jail/Pat Patriot said:
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
He got off great, should have had life in prison which he wouldn't have been able to see his kids anyway. Now he gets a cush job.DocGonzo said:
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
We don't know if his wife didn't volunteer to take whatever he gave her and it was pretty clear from their conversation that she did NOT want to go to prison and have both her children taken away from her. Did you watch the show or is your head too far up Vic's *** you can't think clearly?Christo said:
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
So the kid volunteered too?
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Vic was never strong. He was the weakest link out of the group. Unlike the rest of the group, he ALWAYS thought of himself first.Christo said:
Your Mother
Footballguy
I think that's the first time a dude's ever wiped his own wife's peepee on national TV.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I can't believe I forgot that. That was UNREAL!!!!
On The Rocks
Footballguy
When I saw Billings attorney, the first thought I had was that IAD or Billings was looking to get Dutch busted for signing off on a false report.
dont understand what you mean....was genuinely giving you props. saying he'd OD her was a bold call.This is good backseat driving.kd1 said:
BS. Vic was always and continues to be the strongest of the group. I can't even see how you can possibly say he was the weakest of the group. He was BY FAR the strongest of the group. Lem cracked under the pressure of the money train. Shane cracked in killing Lem and countless other times, including taking the easy way out in the end. Ronnie always depended on Vic and got totally played. Vic was always a step ahead. Even at the end, where his plans didn't quite work out, he is the only one free and clear. Thinking of himself first certainly doesn't make him weaker. It makes him stronger if anything. In the series' final moment, he showed that he won't even let his conscious or his current friendless/family-less state defeat him -- that's the ultimate strength.Walton Goggins said:
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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I read the determined sneer and the gun in his belt as him going out there to find his family. He'll turn over every rock to find them.Who's Andre 3000? Was that the mayoral candidate?kd1 said:
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I have been a major fan of The Shield from the beginning but was it ever a really successful show ratings wise?dude said:
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Just finished watching it - thankfully my mother-in-law recorded it while I was driving to Phoenix last night. Great ending - nobody on the Strike Team gets off scot-free. Shane's phone conversation with Vic and the scenes with Vic at the Barn were personal highlights. I would have liked to have seen Vic help Ronnie, but ultimately, Vic has always chosen what's best for him. And Vic is over it in true Vic fashion.
I am going to miss this show - I remember FX advertising it before it started and figuring I would check it out just to see what it was like. I was hooked from that first episode. Tuesday nights at 10 won't be nearly as entertaining.
The three most memorable moments for me:
1. "Shane?!" - Lem getting blown up by Shane blindsided me.
2. Vic looking down at Terry at the end of the first episode - it told me that this show was going to be different than anything I had seen up to that point.
3. Mara and Jackson on the bed - I almost lost it seeing that. How peaceful they looked and and how Shane had put the flowers and the toy on their chests was a beautiful, tragic touch.
I am going to miss this show - I remember FX advertising it before it started and figuring I would check it out just to see what it was like. I was hooked from that first episode. Tuesday nights at 10 won't be nearly as entertaining.
The three most memorable moments for me:
1. "Shane?!" - Lem getting blown up by Shane blindsided me.
2. Vic looking down at Terry at the end of the first episode - it told me that this show was going to be different than anything I had seen up to that point.
3. Mara and Jackson on the bed - I almost lost it seeing that. How peaceful they looked and and how Shane had put the flowers and the toy on their chests was a beautiful, tragic touch.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I have watched every episode of this show. However, maybe I am just having memory freeze but what are these instances in the past where Vic so blatantly chose the path that benefited him over the team. I'm they are there but I cant put my finger on them right now.
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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I think most agree the greatest episode in the great run of The Shield.
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