Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
They already had Ledezma didn't they? I read that they acquired Royce Ring.
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***OFFICIAL TRADE RUMORS MASTER THREAD*** (1 Viewer)
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grrrr....right, Ring, sorry about that!
shadyridr
Footballguy
Buster Olney said it on the ESPN special. The Rangers asked for Kennedy OR Cabrera and were turned down.I don't recall you actually giving a source.I guess you too have also skimmed over this thread.Says who?What does that have to do with anything? He's a mediocre player at best. You aren't talking about a serious trading chip here.ThisGuy said:They can't all be Carlos Beltran.Giant Wooden Badger said:Capella said:
The Rangers asked for him straight up for Gagne.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Buster Olney said it on the ESPN special and it was discussed at length.
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Insoxicated
Well then it MUST be true
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Because you're adamant that the guy is mediocre at best, yet at 22 as done well in the role he has been given under the magnifying glass that is Yankee Stadium. There must be something that you see in this guy that tells you he's mediocre at best and I'd like to know what it is. Do you watch every Yankees game?What difference does that make?Exactly how do you come to this conclusion on a player who is 22 and has been in the bigs since he was 20? He's done well for the role he has been given.What does that have to do with anything? He's a mediocre player at best. You aren't talking about a serious trading chip here.ThisGuy said:They can't all be Carlos Beltran.Giant Wooden Badger said:Capella said:
shadyridr
Footballguy
Well then it MUST be true
Buster Olney was a former Yankee beat writer. I think hed have a few sources in the Yankee Front Office.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
He has mediocre tools. There's nothing wrong with that. Why does he have to be more than a role player just because he's young?Because you're adamant that the guy is mediocre at best, yet at 22 as done well in the role he has been given under the magnifying glass that is Yankee Stadium. There must be something that you see in this guy that tells you he's mediocre at best and I'd like to know what it is. Do you watch every Yankees game?What difference does that make?Exactly how do you come to this conclusion on a player who is 22 and has been in the bigs since he was 20? He's done well for the role he has been given.What does that have to do with anything? He's a mediocre player at best. You aren't talking about a serious trading chip here.ThisGuy said:They can't all be Carlos Beltran.Giant Wooden Badger said:Capella said:
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
There isn't anything particularly special about Humber. It might be a fair offer but the Red Sox deal is probably better. Humber was also apparently offered for Cordero and declined.
The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
Imagine if regular reporters were as willing to jump the gun as baseball guys:
Insiders say the US will bomb Iran. Iran bombing a done deal, details to be worked out.
Bill to be introduced nullifying US constitution. Minor details of 3rd amendment pending.
UK to end diplomatic relations with France. Sees future upside in the deal.
Insiders say the US will bomb Iran. Iran bombing a done deal, details to be worked out.
Bill to be introduced nullifying US constitution. Minor details of 3rd amendment pending.
UK to end diplomatic relations with France. Sees future upside in the deal.
The Hank
Footballguy
Pirates acquire Morris from GiantsTuesday, July 31, 2007
By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The Pirates today acquired starting pitcher Matt Morris from the San Francisco Giants for outfielder Rajai Davis and a player to be named later.
Despite day-long discussions with the Detroit Tigers, no deal was reached to send shortstop Jack Wilson to Detroit by the 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline.
http://postgazette.com/pg/07212/805779-100.stm
Oh wow...
By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The Pirates today acquired starting pitcher Matt Morris from the San Francisco Giants for outfielder Rajai Davis and a player to be named later.
Despite day-long discussions with the Detroit Tigers, no deal was reached to send shortstop Jack Wilson to Detroit by the 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline.
http://postgazette.com/pg/07212/805779-100.stm
Oh wow...
Txns8
Footballguy
This one is a puzzling as the Astros dealing for Wiggington...
The Hank
Footballguy
For Rajai Davis and some other player, I think its worth it to see if Morris has some of the magic he had earlier in his career
The Hank
Footballguy
Too bad they are 13.5 games back and have lost 13 or their last 15...Pirates making a run at the NL Central
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
Eephus
Footballguy
My only hope is that the Pirates are picking up the lion's share of Morris' $9.5M salary. Otherwise, the deal makes no sense. Hey wait a minute, the trade makes no sense any way you look at it.Davis is nothing special.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
The Pirates needed another starter, the Giants wanted to move Morris. It won't help the Pirates get to the playoffs or anything, but it does satisfy a need.My only hope is that the Pirates are picking up the lion's share of Morris' $9.5M salary. Otherwise, the deal makes no sense. Hey wait a minute, the trade makes no sense any way you look at it.Davis is nothing special.
The Hank
Footballguy
It looks like to me this is a classic salary dump... but usually its the Pirates dumping, not their trade partner. In any case Morris has not been horrible this year, he has a 7-7 record with a mid 4.00 ERA, which makes him instantly the No. 1-3 pitcher on the team, moving Maholm back to No. 4 and Youman to No. 5, and Armas back to the bullpen (thank goodness!)With the emergence of Nate McClouth as a steady CF, Duffy on his way back, and McCutchen waiting in the wings, R. Davis was very expendable.Good move Pirates, Good move.My only hope is that the Pirates are picking up the lion's share of Morris' $9.5M salary. Otherwise, the deal makes no sense. Hey wait a minute, the trade makes no sense any way you look at it.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Who are these "Pirates" everyone is talking about all of a sudden? Are they an Independent League team or something?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Tim Pupura was on the radio talking about how the Astros just didmt have the prospects to
make any deals...ironically, he's the guy who was in charge of the Farm system til recently.
make any deals...ironically, he's the guy who was in charge of the Farm system til recently.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I do agree that the Sox needed to add a right handed bat and am a little disappointed they didn't get it done.
Im happy that we got Gagne but we did add to a position of strength. Its certainly not going too hurt but I think a bat helps a little more.
Gagne and a bat would have been the best scenario.
Im happy that we got Gagne but we did add to a position of strength. Its certainly not going too hurt but I think a bat helps a little more.
Gagne and a bat would have been the best scenario.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Brian Cashman confirmed this last night before the game. Check the paper for his quotes. So I guess Melky IS a pretty good trading chip afterall equivalent to the 3 prospects Boston gave up.Well then it MUST be true
Wolf
Footballguy
Actually it was Melky AND one of the Yankee pitching prospects.Brian Cashman confirmed this last night before the game. Check the paper for his quotes. So I guess Melky IS a pretty good trading chip afterall equivalent to the 3 prospects Boston gave up.Well then it MUST be true
shadyridr
Footballguy
No it was ORActually it was Melky AND one of the Yankee pitching prospects.Brian Cashman confirmed this last night before the game. Check the paper for his quotes. So I guess Melky IS a pretty good trading chip afterall equivalent to the 3 prospects Boston gave up.Well then it MUST be true
The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
ORNo it was ORActually it was Melky AND one of the Yankee pitching prospects.Brian Cashman confirmed this last night before the game. Check the paper for his quotes. So I guess Melky IS a pretty good trading chip afterall equivalent to the 3 prospects Boston gave up.Well then it MUST be true
The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
if he's the centerpiece, presumably he's the most valuable aspect. While it doesn't jibe with saying the trade was "straight up" it' snot far off.
Capella
Footballguy
Depends on who the arm(s) were, I guess.
The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
Yeah, I think we're arguing semantics at this point, which isn't entirely exciting.
The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
Immediate negative repercussions in the Gagne trade. Tavarez gets the start tonight.
wilked
Footballguy
Ya, I am surprised they didn't pitch Hansack
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
GO BABY YANKEE GO!!!!! 3-3 today that follows on a great July .368/.410/.528.Exactly how do you come to this conclusion on a player who is 22 and has been in the bigs since he was 20? He's done well for the role he has been given.What does that have to do with anything? He's a mediocre player at best. You aren't talking about a serious trading chip here.They can't all be Carlos Beltran.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
My apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I sense sarcasm
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
Nice to see your Sarcasmmeter is working.Limp Ditka said:I sense sarcasmMy apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
Oh! A Sarcasmmeter, what a worthwhile contraption!Nice to see your Sarcasmmeter is working.Limp Ditka said:I sense sarcasmMy apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
D-You're trying to hard here, guy. If you want to unequivocally bash me, pick your fights better.Oh! A Sarcasmmeter, what a worthwhile contraption!Nice to see your Sarcasmmeter is working.Limp Ditka said:I sense sarcasmMy apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Speaking of D-, your ability to assess Dye grades right about there.D-You're trying to hard here, guy. If you want to unequivocally bash me, pick your fights better.Oh! A Sarcasmmeter, what a worthwhile contraption!Nice to see your Sarcasmmeter is working.I sense sarcasmMy apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
I said he was the greatest player ever, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!Speaking of D-, your ability to assess Dye grades right about there.D-You're trying to hard here, guy. If you want to unequivocally bash me, pick your fights better.Oh! A Sarcasmmeter, what a worthwhile contraption!Nice to see your Sarcasmmeter is working. :(I sense sarcasmMy apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Very little power, average on-base skills, very good defense. If the Yanks were serious about going for the WC, trading him for Gagne would've been a complete no-brainer. You're blowing Melky up just because Damon has been so bad. Melky is a 4th outfielder, or a starter on a bad team.Not for a 2 month rental of Gagne. Cabrera has been tearing the cover off the ball, is a better hitter than Damon right now, and is putting up close to Gold Glove level defense. He has been a God send.
17 game hitting streak vs .450 BAA
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The Man from Laramie
Footballguy
1) Wilson Betemit since joining the Yanks:
.333 BA / .400 OBP / .667 SLG / 1.067 OPS
2) Gagne w/ Boston: 3.1 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 4K, 2 BB, 16.20 ERA
3) Padres, Yankees working on Igawa deal? Story claims 2 PM today is the deadline.
.333 BA / .400 OBP / .667 SLG / 1.067 OPS
2) Gagne w/ Boston: 3.1 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 4K, 2 BB, 16.20 ERA
3) Padres, Yankees working on Igawa deal? Story claims 2 PM today is the deadline.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
How about updating week 3 standings?I said he was the greatest player ever, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!Speaking of D-, your ability to assess Dye grades right about there.D-You're trying to hard here, guy. If you want to unequivocally bash me, pick your fights better.Oh! A Sarcasmmeter, what a worthwhile contraption!Nice to see your Sarcasmmeter is working.I sense sarcasmMy apologies. He's the greatest player alive.Yep, that Jermaine Dye really sucks.
