***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

There are rumors around that Marion Barber is available. And I'll admit I have no idea what it would take to get him. But RB's seem to come cheaper than other positions.

It probably wouldn't cost much, but I don't think he is what they need to add right now at RB. They should be adding young speed guys, not mid-aged bangers.

 

[Sebowski]

Personally I'm not gonna be upset if we take...

Not to pick on b&g because I see this all around, but I think fans are getting a little crazy with the "If they take player X I'm going to be upset", or "Player Y is their best bet to turn everything around" when it comes to how to use the 1.04. The simple fact of the matter is that the 1.04 is just a small step along the long journey this team is on. The more I think about it, the more I think they can't really screw this pick up. Whoever they pick, from any position, is going to be uber-talented and will have tremendous potential to be a core player for years to come. The roster is so thin and/or chock full of holes that just adding any one of the top collegiate talents will be a step in the right direction.Snyderatto no longer have the keys to the car. Knowledgeable, fully capable, experienced NFL men are making the decisions now. I say, sit back, relax and enjoy watching professionals do their job. The future of the Redskins franchise will not be damned based on who is or isn't selected with the 1.04.

Disagree. There are busts in every draft at every slot. Here are some #4 picks from the past:09: Aaron Curry - Jury out

08: Darren McFadden - Looking like a bust

07:Gaines Adams - Bust before tragic death. Maybe would have turned it around

06: D'Brickashaw Ferguson - stud

05: Cedric Benson (Braylon Edwards before him; Caddy, Pacman, Troy Williamson, and Rolle after him) - bust for team that drafted him

04: Philip Rivers - stud

03: Dewayne Robertson - stud

02: Mike Williams - Jury out. Might turn into the greatest O-Lineman ever

01: Justin Smith - Bust

Teams are wrong more than they are right or every team would be full of pro bowlers. That is just impossible. Sometimes the fans get have it right and the GMs get it wrong.

Looking at the 05 draft you can see that there is no guarantee a player will be good just because he was picked high.

Getting a pick that high wrong can set a team back.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Does everyone here hate Clausen? What's his deal. They're offense (ND) was pretty good with him last year. He seems to have had very good grooming and now seems to have Theismanns blessing.

My $.02...Clausen would be a great pick IF he were taken later in the first round. Unfortunately, we find ourselves at the 4 spot and most are terrified that the 'Skins will reach and take Clausen there. So, it's not hate for him, but more for taking him at our current draft spot.

IMO Clausen is the pick. Bradford will be gone at 1.01 and it'll come down to Clausen or Okung. I'm gonna roll with Mel. Not McShay and not necessarily Vinny. There are quality left tackles to be had at 2.05 but there are only 2 potential franchise QBs to be had and Clausen may be the most durable of the 2. Many say he's better than Stafford or Sanchez. I say take our franchise QB now while we're in the perfect draft position to do it and still have J.Cam. around to take the 2010 beating (and not to mention set a good example of how to be a stand up guy for the young buck). We can take another O-lineman in the 1st round of the 2011 draft.

 

[dgreen]

Final preseason game is AT Arizona? That's a long way to go for a preseason game. I assume we'll open the regular season at home.

 

[Meast21]

Final preseason game is AT Arizona? That's a long way to go for a preseason game. I assume we'll open the regular season at home.

Let's be honest we are probably opening up against the Giants (in NY of course).

 

[dgreen]

Final preseason game is AT Arizona? That's a long way to go for a preseason game. I assume we'll open the regular season at home.

Let's be honest we are probably opening up against the Giants (in NY of course).

Doubtful. Preseason games are set up by the individual teams, not by the league. I really hope the Redskins wouldn't agree to travel to Arizona if they have to travel week one.

 

[Marvelous]

Personally I'm not gonna be upset if we take...

Not to pick on b&g because I see this all around, but I think fans are getting a little crazy with the "If they take player X I'm going to be upset", or "Player Y is their best bet to turn everything around" when it comes to how to use the 1.04. The simple fact of the matter is that the 1.04 is just a small step along the long journey this team is on. The more I think about it, the more I think they can't really screw this pick up. Whoever they pick, from any position, is going to be uber-talented and will have tremendous potential to be a core player for years to come. The roster is so thin and/or chock full of holes that just adding any one of the top collegiate talents will be a step in the right direction.Snyderatto no longer have the keys to the car. Knowledgeable, fully capable, experienced NFL men are making the decisions now. I say, sit back, relax and enjoy watching professionals do their job. The future of the Redskins franchise will not be damned based on who is or isn't selected with the 1.04.

Disagree. There are busts in every draft at every slot. Here are some #4 picks from the past:09: Aaron Curry - Jury out

08: Darren McFadden - Looking like a bust

07:Gaines Adams - Bust before tragic death. Maybe would have turned it around

06: D'Brickashaw Ferguson - stud

05: Cedric Benson (Braylon Edwards before him; Caddy, Pacman, Troy Williamson, and Rolle after him) - bust for team that drafted him

04: Philip Rivers - stud

03: Dewayne Robertson - stud

02: Mike Williams - Jury out. Might turn into the greatest O-Lineman ever

01: Justin Smith - Bust

Teams are wrong more than they are right or every team would be full of pro bowlers. That is just impossible. Sometimes the fans get have it right and the GMs get it wrong.

Looking at the 05 draft you can see that there is no guarantee a player will be good just because he was picked high.

Getting a pick that high wrong can set a team back.

Even at 1.04, the draft is a crapshoot. Yet some people consistently come out of the draft better than others.

 

[fatness]

Getting a pick that high wrong can set a team back.

It sure can. Look at Jamarcus Russell and Darius Heyward-Bey for recent examples. A high pick is a golden opportunity that doesn't come along often for competently-run teams (which at the moment we have to assume is what the Redskins are). It's an opportunity to get an impact player for 10 years. The further down in the draft that a team picks, the less its chances are of getting such an impact player. A high draft pick is also a chance to squander a golden opportunity. And the best way I know to squander it is to give in to what happens before every draft ----- in the 3-4 weeks prior to every draft, all the talk centers on offensive players, especially QB's, and simply by virtue of an increasing vortex of talk they begin to get overrated. We all know by now, after having it confirmed by previous Redskin scouts, that Cerrato and Snyder would 'grade' players, then tilt the grading system to favor offensive players. That is what has to be avoided: tilting dead-objective player evaluations in any direction. Avoiding it increases the chances of getting that impact player. Tilting the grades and giving in to all the over-emphasis on QB's gives you Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf.

 

[fatness]

vortex

One of the big words I learned in college. Like "existentialism" and "sandwich".

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

vortex

One of the big words I learned in college. Like "existentialism" and "sandwich".

Existentialism....am I hearing a psych guy here?

 

[fatness]

Psych? It's a major English major word, duuuuuuuude.

 

[buster c]

vortex

One of the big words I learned in college. Like "existentialism" and "sandwich".

great restraint fatty in waiting a whole 4 minutes before bumping your own post with no research to back my observation it just seems to me that 1st round busts are the result of drafting for need as opposed to the BPA. This is why I'd be opposed to taking Claussen at 1.4. I can still see his fumbling at the goal line -each one- after getting jacked up by an unrecruited Navy defender. Also, if we're going to acquire another QB with the initials "JC," I'd prefer it to be the dude whose big day is this Sunday. minimize the risk and go BPA, which hopefully will be a LT

 

[Marvelous]

One topic I have not seen addressed: If Bradford and Okung are gone by 1.04, then either Suh or McCoy will have dropped to the Redskins. Can either of these DTs play NT in a 3-4 defense?

I am all for drafting the BPA. Of course, he needs to fit the system you want to play.

 

[fatness]

Link

So where does that leave Campbell?

The Redskins, to this point, have not done much to bolster an offensive line considered among the league's least effective last season. Washington has pursued several second- and third-tier tackles so far in free agency - Chad Clifton, Tony Pashos and Barry Sims - and whiffed on all of them.



If the season started tomorrow, Stephon Heyer might be the Redskins' starting left tackle. Of course, I know that the season doesn't actually start tomorrow. Despite Shanahan's recent upbeat comments about Heyer, having Heyer in that spot would not be good for the starting quarterback. Versatile lineman Artis Hicks has been the only addition to the group, and he's better suited as a reserve at this stage of his career.

If the Redskins select a quarterback in the draft, Campbell probably still would be their best option next season, especially behind an offensive line that might not be much improved. Only two quarterbacks were sacked more than Campbell (43 sacks) last season, and even if Shanahan's coaching helps to reduce the Redskins' sack total, why would the Redskins risk ruining a rookie quarterback's psyche playing behind a line that pass protects poorly?

Campbell ranked 15th in the NFL in passing efficiency with an 86.4 passer rating. That was higher than the ratings of Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan and Jay Cutler, among others. Campbell also ranked 14th with 3,618 yards passing, 10th in completion percentage (64.5) and had 20 touchdowns with 15 interceptions. He produced personal-best statistics behind an offensive line that probably could not have been worse, an almost nonexistent running game and continued to conduct himself professionally despite the off-field chaos at Redskins Park.

 

[fatness]

great restraint fatty in waiting a whole 4 minutes before bumping your own post

You too can learn to laugh at yourself, buster. There's no shortage of opportunities.

 

[buster c]

great restraint fatty in waiting a whole 4 minutes before bumping your own post

You too can learn to laugh at yourself, buster. There's no shortage of opportunities.

well read the next sentence in what you quoted Slick, and you'll see I don't need to learn! I'm arrogant because I'm always right, yet humble enough to not take myself too seriously but bumping your own posts?

 

[Sidewinder16]

Personally I'm not gonna be upset if we take...

Not to pick on b&g because I see this all around, but I think fans are getting a little crazy with the "If they take player X I'm going to be upset", or "Player Y is their best bet to turn everything around" when it comes to how to use the 1.04. The simple fact of the matter is that the 1.04 is just a small step along the long journey this team is on. The more I think about it, the more I think they can't really screw this pick up. Whoever they pick, from any position, is going to be uber-talented and will have tremendous potential to be a core player for years to come. The roster is so thin and/or chock full of holes that just adding any one of the top collegiate talents will be a step in the right direction.Snyderatto no longer have the keys to the car. Knowledgeable, fully capable, experienced NFL men are making the decisions now. I say, sit back, relax and enjoy watching professionals do their job. The future of the Redskins franchise will not be damned based on who is or isn't selected with the 1.04.

Disagree. There are busts in every draft at every slot. Here are some #4 picks from the past:09: Aaron Curry - Jury out

08: Darren McFadden - Looking like a bust

07:Gaines Adams - Bust before tragic death. Maybe would have turned it around

06: D'Brickashaw Ferguson - stud

05: Cedric Benson (Braylon Edwards before him; Caddy, Pacman, Troy Williamson, and Rolle after him) - bust for team that drafted him

04: Philip Rivers - stud

03: Dewayne Robertson - stud

02: Mike Williams - Jury out. Might turn into the greatest O-Lineman ever

01: Justin Smith - Bust

Teams are wrong more than they are right or every team would be full of pro bowlers. That is just impossible. Sometimes the fans get have it right and the GMs get it wrong.

Looking at the 05 draft you can see that there is no guarantee a player will be good just because he was picked high.

Getting a pick that high wrong can set a team back.

I may not have said it well enough but, I'm not arguing that the pick can't "bust" (a subjective term, to be sure), but I do disagree with the notion that a busted pick that high dooms a team to being "set back".What exactly do the 'Skins have to be set back from? Are you contending that the wrong pick guarantees a 3-13 record or worse in 2010? That it guarantees losing records for years to come?

Other than McFadden (because, one, two seasons is probably too soon to definitively declare a bust and two, it's the Raiders), the players you labeled as busts weren't the death knell that seems to be suggested. Tampa Bay and Chicago both made the playoffs the years they drafted their high pick "busts" and Cincinnati had it's best record in 4 years the year they drafted Smith (who I'm not sure was really a bust; probably depends on how exactly that's being defined).

How about this: the 'Skins could pick the wrong player at 1.04 (i.e. could "screw the pick up"), but I still contend that the "screwed up pick" doesn't inherently kill the rebuilding that's necessary before it really gets started. The team could still rebuild and become competitive in a reasonable amount of time no matter what name is called on draft day.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Final preseason game is AT Arizona? That's a long way to go for a preseason game. I assume we'll open the regular season at home.

Let's be honest we are probably opening up against the Giants (in NY of course).

Doubtful. Preseason games are set up by the individual teams, not by the league. I really hope the Redskins wouldn't agree to travel to Arizona if they have to travel week one.

Meast21 is saying that because the past two years we've played NYG in NY to start our season. I believe the year before was vs. NYJ or maybe it was 2 yrs before.

 

[Hang 10]

Final preseason game is AT Arizona? That's a long way to go for a preseason game. I assume we'll open the regular season at home.

Let's be honest we are probably opening up against the Giants (in NY of course).

Doubtful. Preseason games are set up by the individual teams, not by the league. I really hope the Redskins wouldn't agree to travel to Arizona if they have to travel week one.

Meast21 is saying that because the past two years we've played NYG in NY to start our season. I believe the year before was vs. NYJ or maybe it was 2 yrs before.

Vs. Phins @ Fedex

 

[Peggy Starfish]

vortex

One of the big words I learned in college. Like "existentialism" and "sandwich".

great restraint fatty in waiting a whole 4 minutes before bumping your own post with no research to back my observation it just seems to me that 1st round busts are the result of drafting for need as opposed to the BPA. This is why I'd be opposed to taking Claussen at 1.4. I can still see his fumbling at the goal line -each one- after getting jacked up by an unrecruited Navy defender. Also, if we're going to acquire another QB with the initials "JC," I'd prefer it to be the dude whose big day is this Sunday.

minimize the risk and go BPA, which hopefully will be a LT

My God, I agree with buster!

Yup, this is precisely the problem. Our best picks have been BPA. The S position was not a priority need in 2004, yet Sean Taylor was hands down a tremendous pick and nobody remembered long afterward what the team "should" have drafted then.

People may smack their hands to their foreheads if we can't trade down and end up "taking a DT that we don't need", or that CB Berry, but if those players pan out and are good or great, that will be quickly forgotten. It's hard enough to get draft picks right without placing arbitrary constraints upon player evaluation, such as "I'd like to have another LB peeees!"

BTW, it is possible, especially as the draft goes on, to have multiple BPA's at different positions at a given time due to the same or very similar draft grades. It rarely comes down to just one guy except at the very top of the 1st round, or perhaps later in the first or second round when there's perceived to be a large drop-off in talent.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

Final preseason game is AT Arizona? That's a long way to go for a preseason game. I assume we'll open the regular season at home.

Let's be honest we are probably opening up against the Giants (in NY of course).

Doubtful. Preseason games are set up by the individual teams, not by the league. I really hope the Redskins wouldn't agree to travel to Arizona if they have to travel week one.

Meast21 is saying that because the past two years we've played NYG in NY to start our season. I believe the year before was vs. NYJ or maybe it was 2 yrs before.

Vs. Phins @ Fedex

Didn't we also start the season back in 2006 or 2007 @FedEx vs. Miami, when Jansen got injured?

 

[dgreen]

Didn't we also start the season back in 2006 or 2007 @FedEx vs. Miami, when Jansen got injured?

Under Gibbs 2.0, every season opener was a home game: Tampa Bay, Chicago, Minnesota, Miami. Under Zorn, both seasons opened at the Giants.

 

[fatness]

Jason Reid

If Okung is available at 1.04, there won't be a choice between BPA and need. He would be both at that spot for the Skins.

It appears, however, Oklahoma State tackle Russell Okung possesses the physical tools to become the type of player Snyder has coveted when selecting high in the draft. Okung measured at 6 feet 5, 307 pounds at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis. He is considered a prototypical left tackle and one of the best prospects at the position in many years, league talent evaluators say.

Let's play "guess the coach".

As Insider readers know, we've repeatedly made our position clear on the organization's failure to address the problems along the line the past two seasons. While I was at dinner one night during the combine with Rick Maese and the NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, among others, a former Redskins coach stopped by our table just to say we were on point in everything we had written about the team's mistakes with the offensive line.

 

[dgreen]

I'll go with Zorn.

 

[Fat Nick]

Given the recent posts re. the Ravens possibly giving up Gaither for a 2nd (now on ESPN INsider Rumors), I would honestly be OK with getting a QB in the 1st if we could land Gaither. I've said all along the OL is a priority, and in my eyes, Okung < Gaither (for a 2nd). I think as far as QB + LT tandems go, I'd prefer Gaither + Clausen over Okung + Tebow/McCoy.

Obviously a lot of assumptions on the Skins getting Gaither, but it'd be nice to dream.

 

[buster c]

Jason Reid

If Okung is available at 1.04, there won't be a choice between BPA and need. He would be both at that spot for the Skins.

with what we know about Shanny & his OL preferences, is this necessarily the case?

 

[Peggy Starfish]

I'll go with Zorn.

And we know Zorn is still in the area as he's coaching for the Ravens.

 

[burgundy and gold]

One topic I have not seen addressed: If Bradford and Okung are gone by 1.04, then either Suh or McCoy will have dropped to the Redskins. Can either of these DTs play NT in a 3-4 defense?I am all for drafting the BPA. Of course, he needs to fit the system you want to play.

Suh would be the pick if he fell to the 4 (which he won't). He can play anywhere on the line, much like Prince Albert, but is best suited as a tackle in the 43. But yes he is big and strong enough to play nose-tackle. McCoy on the other hand is not someone you would play as a nose-tackle. His strong-suit is pressure and he doesn't seem strong enough to succeed there. That being said, either of those guys paired with Prince Al would give the Skins arguably the best d-line in football.Now in terms of BPA, I think that Berry is gonna be that guy for us. This list, at the moment, kinda goes like this: Suh, Bradford, Berry, Bryant, Clausen, McCoy/Spiller.(IMO)

 

[Sebowski]

If Okung is gone and Bradford is gone by the time the Redskins' pick rolls around, there will be 1 or 2 of the 2 top defensive tackles available. Some teams will give an arm and a leg for those 2 players, so it's a perfect time to trade down, get a pick later in the 1st round for an OT, and pick up a 3rd round pick as well.

There's also Eric Berry who a lot of teams will be interested in and who is visiting Redskins Park this week. No matter who goes in the top 3, I think the 4th pick will have some decent trade value.

OTOH, the subsequently drafting teams know the 'Skins are not interested in DT's, and might under those circumstances be forced to draft one of the two or three OL's who likewise fit into the top 10 picks, or Clausen if they can't trade down. It all depends. I almost hope for a trade-down regardless, which would allow them to address the OL with multiple picks and still pick up a guy like Tebow or a LB.

I disagree. Teams will need the 4th pick regardless if the Skins want a DT or not. They will want to leap ahead of any other possible suitors as soon as they can. The Chiefs right behind us would be an easier target, but it would be safer to move up to 4.ETA: Dear god please no Tebow. The guy can not play QB. He has the best PR in the world. His college resume isn't as great as it is being made out to be. Colt McCoy's is better and he actually threw the ball instead of running dives and jump passes his whole carreer. So what if he is committed. Most of these guys are. Colt Brennan is. Brennan showed much more NFL promise in college than Tebow did. I have no idea why people are saying this guy can do it just because he is great in an interview.

You lost me at the bolded.

All I'm saying is, he is no Timmy Chang.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Do you think the Chargers would take Portis and the 4th for Merrimann (he's only 25 ya know).

 

[Sidewinder16]

Do you think the Chargers would take Portis and the 4th for Merrimann (he's only 25 ya know).

What does Merriman do for the defense that Orakpo doesn't?

 

[Bizkiteer]

Since we are throwing out hypothetical trades, how about these two:

C. Cooley for Gaither, we get our LT.

L. Landry for B. Marshall, we get a young play maker.

Draft Bradford and take best OL in second.

Maybe Carter can also fetch us a pick or player of need.

No, I'm not smoking anything...just wishing upon a star!

 

[dgreen]

Happy birthday, Sean Taylor.

 

[fatness]

Happy birthday, Sean Taylor.

It still makes me angry that he's dead.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

Happy birthday, Sean Taylor.

It still makes me angry that he's dead.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

Do you think the Chargers would take Portis and the 4th for Merrimann (he's only 25 ya know).

What does Merriman do for the defense that Orakpo doesn't?

A more interesting social life.

 

[fatness]

In Kansas City, Johnson wasn't shy when he was unhappy with his role. He says he comes to Washington knowing that he's not the featured back and he doesn't feel like he has the privilege to complain.

"To me, at this point in time, you lose the [ability] to be able to speak up," he said. "You have to regain a respect as far as how many touches you can and can't have. I think in Kansas City, I thought I deserved more because I'd been there before any of the coaches got there. I think it's different here because I've got to rework again to get myself back into how many carries I'm going to get per game."

Larry Johnson, saying the right things.

 

[fatness]

Although Coach Mike Shanahan has declined to confirm the team is switching from a base 4-3 front to a version of the Pittsburgh Steelers' 3-4, many players have openly discussed the changes expected to occur. And the coaching staff is telling prospective draft picks that the Redskins are rolling like the Steelers this season.

"They went over some things, and it looks like they're running Pittsburgh's defense," Berry said. "They want to do it like the Steelers with [Pro Bowl safety Troy] Polamalu and those guys making all those turnovers and plays, so they're looking for another safety. I feel good in any system, but in their system I think they'll let me roam a little bit more if they do happen to pick me.

"I think with Washington, with the defense they want to run, I'd be more of a free safety, a true free safety, instead of playing in the box all the time or playing back all the time. The system is more like the system I had in Tennessee my freshman and sophomore years. It's definitely a system I think I would like to play in because I like to make plays to help my team. You can make a lot of plays in that defense."

Eric Berry after his visit

 

[fatness]

2-day visit from Clausen starts today. Berry had a 2-day visit.

It's spring, and the sleepovers are busting out all over!!

 

[fatness]

According to Ed Thompson of Scout.com, the 'Skins also plan to eyeball Colt McCoy. The visit will occur Monday and Tuesday.

But here's the best reason not to get worked up about pre-draft visits, by quarterbacks or any other players. Four years ago, when Redskins coach Mike Shanahan traded up to get quarterback Jay Cutler with the eleventh overall pick, Cutler did not make a pre-draft visit to Denver.

So what do the visits mean? At this point, not much of anything. Unless Shanahan holds true to his 2006 form, which would mean that he wants a quarterback who won't be showing up at Redskins Park.

2-day visit from Colt MCCoy as well.

 

[fatness]

Clausen, who said he's not quite 100 percent from the two torn tendons in his big toe, will not work out for the Redskins during the visit. He has his Pro Day April 9 and said he will throw for the Redskins April 15 in South Bend, Ind.

According to published reports, the Redskins have a workout scheduled for April 15 with Sam Bradford in Norman, Okla. This could represent a shift in the team's thinking now that it's becoming apparent Bradford will go first overall to the St. Louis Rams.

Ryan O'Halloran with some interesting information.

Add Oklahoma State left tackle Russell Okung to the list of players the Washington Redskins will be getting a closer look at next week. A league source confirmed via email tonight that Okung -- considered the top offensive lineman in this year's draft -- will meet with the Redskins next week.

Okung remains a possible choice for the Redskins with the fourth overall pick since they have a glaring hole at the position following the retirement of Chris Samuels. Adding Okung -- providing he starts right away -- would allow the Redskins to shift Stephon Heyer to right tackle and keep Mike Williams at right guard. It's unclear whether the Redskins brass will travel to evaluate Okung, or if he will come to Ashburn.

 

[Sidewinder16]

FWP signs w/ the 'Skins. There's also a thread in the SP about it.

 

[Marvelous]

FWP signs w/ the 'Skins. There's also a thread in the SP about it.

Wow. Interesting news. I seriously doubt Portis, LJ, and FWP all make the team. I think Shanahan will draft a rb and keep him on the roster.This also shows that you can find decent rbs without paying a fortune for them. I really think the Redskins got it backwards when they traded for Portis and threw all that money at him.

 

[burgundy and gold]

Do you think the Chargers would take Portis and the 4th for Merrimann (he's only 25 ya know).

What does Merriman do for the defense that Orakpo doesn't?

Well if they're trying to run the Pittsburgh defense like Eric Berry says they are then Orakpo/Merriman can be our version of Harrison/Woodley. And now with FWP here that makes Portis even more expendable.

 

[fatness]

I don't want Merriman. He's not the same since he's not, um, enhanced. And the team doesn't need another 'star'. That's CerratoBall strategy.

 

[fatness]

Wow. Interesting news. I seriously doubt Portis, LJ, and FWP all make the team.

I agree.

 

[fatness]

And now with FWP here that makes Portis even more expendable.

If Parker's slow and washed up, no, it doesn't. Portis may be the best back on the team by a long shot. It'll take training camp and exhibition games to see if he is, which is absolutely fine by me. But you don't go cutting your starting RB simply because the team signed 2 former big-name RBs who might still be good and might be shot.

 

[burgundy and gold]

According to Ed Thompson of Scout.com, the 'Skins also plan to eyeball Colt McCoy. The visit will occur Monday and Tuesday.

But here's the best reason not to get worked up about pre-draft visits, by quarterbacks or any other players. Four years ago, when Redskins coach Mike Shanahan traded up to get quarterback Jay Cutler with the eleventh overall pick, Cutler did not make a pre-draft visit to Denver.

So what do the visits mean? At this point, not much of anything. Unless Shanahan holds true to his 2006 form, which would mean that he wants a quarterback who won't be showing up at Redskins Park.

2-day visit from Colt MCCoy as well.

So who here votes Okung in the 1st, McCoy in the 2nd. That's seeming totally doable right now. IMO that would mean resigning Campbell, McCoy seems like a 2-3 year project.

 

[burgundy and gold]

I don't want Merriman. He's not the same since he's not, um, enhanced. And the team doesn't need another 'star'. That's CerratoBall strategy.

Well I guess that puts you in the 'Anti-Merriman' camp. But I'm gonna have to go the oppisite direccion Fatness. He will return to form IMO. And as for having stars on the team; there's nothing wrong with that. All the best teams do. It's up to the team management/coaching staff to manage their "talent". And as far as giving up Portis ("our best RB", you say), I think 2010 is a lost cause regardless and though I've always been one of the biggest CP fans (I even wear 26 to FeDex on gamedays), I think that after this season his abilities will begin to decline rapidly. Merriman is only 25 and I think he has about 3-4 more double-digit sack seasons in him.

 

[Bizkiteer]

FWP signs w/ the 'Skins. There's also a thread in the SP about it.

Wow. Interesting news. I seriously doubt Portis, LJ, and FWP all make the team. I think Shanahan will draft a rb and keep him on the roster.This also shows that you can find decent rbs without paying a fortune for them. I really think the Redskins got it backwards when they traded for Portis and threw all that money at him.

He already has the RB that he sees as a game breaker in future...Alridge. Remember he recommended him and he was the first guy snagged up when B. Allen took over.I do think that the 'Skins have protected themselves nicely in that they can truly let CP go, if needed. I'm not saying Willie is equal to CP, but it provides depth and not beholden to CP.