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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (2 Viewers)

'Dexter Manley said:
'Marvelous said:
'Eastwood said:
'fatness said:
ESPN 980 is mentioning "talk" that the Redskins are actively trying to move up to the 2nd pick in the first round to draft Blaine Gabbert. :wall: How many draft picks will it take to do this? This team will never get rebuilt. Our only hope is that Gabbert is drafted 1.1.
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I will be sick if we trade up in this draft. Beyond stupid when we have so few picks as is. Take the best WR, CB, or DE at 1.10, and then take a QB in the 2nd. Not that hard to figure out.
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I seriously doubt the Redskins can accomplish this. I believe Shannahan/Allen have locked down the leaks so well that no one really knows what they are going to do on draft day. It's a better way to run a football team, but it's not nearly as entertaining for the fans and media.
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:yes:This smells to me like Denver leaking out false intel that Washington wants to trade up to 1.02 to try and entice another team who loves Gabbert to trade up with them. While I wouldn't be surprised if Gabbert is the #1 player on the Redskins board, there's no way in hell this was legitimately leaked by someone in the organization with Shanahan in charge.
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The "insiders" at ES essentially confirmed the JLC report that they love Gabbert and were trying to move up to get him. Who knows what to believe. Nothing against Gabbert, but I'd love it if those "insiders" were fed false info. It would be kind of refreshing to not have front office talk dribble down to message board posters with good friends.
 
Doesn't it seem odd and a bit stupid to pass on extremely talented defensive players who don't fit their defensive scheme? The scheme was a failure in its first year because it didn't fit their players.

Draft the best players and fit the scheme to the players. It's not rocket science.

 
I think the biggest question is does Jones survive until #10. If so, I think some teams will jump up to get him at that point.

If no trades for the pick, then I'd go highest rated DE/LB in the 1st then Ryan Williams/LeShoure in the 2nd. This team still has no pass pressure and lacks depth at RB to pound the ball, which they need to do so Grossman or whatever QB desperately needs a ground game to support them. Then you turn to FA to find WRs and OL depth. If Ponder is there in the 2nd I'd take him over the RB, but I don't think he'll be there. But I'll stand by my crazy assertion a few months ago that he will be the best QB to come out of this draft, and that's because most of these QBs suck moreso than Ponder has huge upside.

Lastly, if trades open up by draft time, I think McNabb will get traded for a late pick or pick next year to ARI, SF, MIN, or TEN. Any team waiting to make that deal probably makes McNabb more important to them, meaning they'd have to give up more to get him.

 
I think it's fairly certain that, picking directly in front of them, Dallas will take every chance they get to foil and frustrate the Redskins where the opportunity presents itself. If they don't take the Offensive Tackle from USC at 1.09 for themselves, I almost guarantee they will sell that pick to anyone contingent on that Team agreeing to take whatever player they think is at the top of the Redskins' board...

...my views have remained relatively unchanged over the years. Time and again I have preached that a proper football team is built from the inside, out (O-Line / D-Line), but this year, I have a player I'm so in love with that I'd be ecstatic if they chose at 1.10, and he's the only guy I'd consider using the pick on, even over the USC OT, rather than moving back.

That guy would be: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska

Recycling Carlos Rodgers, with better eye/hand co-ordination, at a much lower cap # than it would take to re-sign Rodgers. He's a shutdown corner, who's also a solid run defender - along with the Otogwe signing, the 'skins would at least have ONE unit on the Team (Secondary) that would be complete and ready to go when the NFL goes back into session Monday following the Draft.

This Draft is very deep with 3-4 LB's LB/DE's and DE's, and plenty of bodies to develop a decent NT rotation. As much help as the Offense needs, it would be very easy to come out of this Draft with significant improvement to the Defense, and put a Defense on the field that could keep the Team in games, and give a handicapped Offense more opportunities via turnovers and drive stops, and the occaisional short field to work with.

I don't see a QB in this Draft that's a long term answer for ANY TEAM, so, to me, it doesn't make any sense for the Redskins to take one that won't have a more illustrious career than Rex Grossman when all's said and done, especially with no line to protect him, and an average, at best group of RB's and WR's. No purpose wasting time developing a guy that doesn't have franchise written all over him.

Given the Team's 2011 prospects (poor), I'd be perfectly fine fixing the Defense this year, and fixing the Offense next Season, when the Draft looks to be stronger on that side of the ball.

We'll see. Long time, no posting. Lurking always. Hello everyone.

Sure wish it was like the old days when I knew people inside the building and could give quality insight. Although my main buddy is no longer employed by the Team, he still privately trains at least 1/2 dozen players, and is friends with many more, but not being in the building, attending meetings and having relationships with Coaches and Managment, I know more about what the Players do in their down time than I do about the good stuff we're all interested in. Bummer.

 
'nittanylion said:
I think it's fairly certain that, picking directly in front of them, Dallas will take every chance they get to foil and frustrate the Redskins where the opportunity presents itself. If they don't take the Offensive Tackle from USC at 1.09 for themselves, I almost guarantee they will sell that pick to anyone contingent on that Team agreeing to take whatever player they think is at the top of the Redskins' board...

...my views have remained relatively unchanged over the years. Time and again I have preached that a proper football team is built from the inside, out (O-Line / D-Line), but this year, I have a player I'm so in love with that I'd be ecstatic if they chose at 1.10, and he's the only guy I'd consider using the pick on, even over the USC OT, rather than moving back.

That guy would be: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska

Recycling Carlos Rodgers, with better eye/hand co-ordination, at a much lower cap # than it would take to re-sign Rodgers. He's a shutdown corner, who's also a solid run defender - along with the Otogwe signing, the 'skins would at least have ONE unit on the Team (Secondary) that would be complete and ready to go when the NFL goes back into session Monday following the Draft.

This Draft is very deep with 3-4 LB's LB/DE's and DE's, and plenty of bodies to develop a decent NT rotation. As much help as the Offense needs, it would be very easy to come out of this Draft with significant improvement to the Defense, and put a Defense on the field that could keep the Team in games, and give a handicapped Offense more opportunities via turnovers and drive stops, and the occaisional short field to work with.

I don't see a QB in this Draft that's a long term answer for ANY TEAM, so, to me, it doesn't make any sense for the Redskins to take one that won't have a more illustrious career than Rex Grossman when all's said and done, especially with no line to protect him, and an average, at best group of RB's and WR's. No purpose wasting time developing a guy that doesn't have franchise written all over him.

Given the Team's 2011 prospects (poor), I'd be perfectly fine fixing the Defense this year, and fixing the Offense next Season, when the Draft looks to be stronger on that side of the ball.

We'll see. Long time, no posting. Lurking always. Hello everyone.

Sure wish it was like the old days when I knew people inside the building and could give quality insight. Although my main buddy is no longer employed by the Team, he still privately trains at least 1/2 dozen players, and is friends with many more, but not being in the building, attending meetings and having relationships with Coaches and Managment, I know more about what the Players do in their down time than I do about the good stuff we're all interested in. Bummer.
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I think Dallas has better things to do than try to foil the Redskins. Also it's pretty tough to foil the Skins since the team needs someone at every position but SS and TE.
 
'nittanylion said:
...my views have remained relatively unchanged over the years. Time and again I have preached that a proper football team is built from the inside, out (O-Line / D-Line), but this year, I have a player I'm so in love with that I'd be ecstatic if they chose at 1.10, and he's the only guy I'd consider using the pick on, even over the USC OT, rather than moving back.That guy would be: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska
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NL, your input -insider fueled or not- has been missed. don't be a stranger, my man.I also have a player in mind I'd deviate from the core philosophy for: Julio Jones. A can't miss star. And please Lord...no QB.
 
'buster c said:
'nittanylion said:
...my views have remained relatively unchanged over the years. Time and again I have preached that a proper football team is built from the inside, out (O-Line / D-Line), but this year, I have a player I'm so in love with that I'd be ecstatic if they chose at 1.10, and he's the only guy I'd consider using the pick on, even over the USC OT, rather than moving back.

That guy would be: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska
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NL, your input -insider fueled or not- has been missed. don't be a stranger, my man.I also have a player in mind I'd deviate from the core philosophy for: Julio Jones. A can't miss star.

And please Lord...no QB.
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I doubt he will be there at 10. I'm looking forward to drafting another QB in the 1st round that will bust.
 
'buster c said:
I would run up to the podium with Fairly's name on the card
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I'd like to see them run the clock down. I like Fairly as well but I'd like to see if someone will trade to grab Gabbert.ETA: I wouldn't be too upset if they took Gabbert, I think he is the best QB in this class.
 
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'thayman said:
'nittanylion said:
I think it's fairly certain that, picking directly in front of them, Dallas will take every chance they get to foil and frustrate the Redskins where the opportunity presents itself. If they don't take the Offensive Tackle from USC at 1.09 for themselves, I almost guarantee they will sell that pick to anyone contingent on that Team agreeing to take whatever player they think is at the top of the Redskins' board...

...my views have remained relatively unchanged over the years. Time and again I have preached that a proper football team is built from the inside, out (O-Line / D-Line), but this year, I have a player I'm so in love with that I'd be ecstatic if they chose at 1.10, and he's the only guy I'd consider using the pick on, even over the USC OT, rather than moving back.

That guy would be: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska

Recycling Carlos Rodgers, with better eye/hand co-ordination, at a much lower cap # than it would take to re-sign Rodgers. He's a shutdown corner, who's also a solid run defender - along with the Otogwe signing, the 'skins would at least have ONE unit on the Team (Secondary) that would be complete and ready to go when the NFL goes back into session Monday following the Draft.

This Draft is very deep with 3-4 LB's LB/DE's and DE's, and plenty of bodies to develop a decent NT rotation. As much help as the Offense needs, it would be very easy to come out of this Draft with significant improvement to the Defense, and put a Defense on the field that could keep the Team in games, and give a handicapped Offense more opportunities via turnovers and drive stops, and the occaisional short field to work with.

I don't see a QB in this Draft that's a long term answer for ANY TEAM, so, to me, it doesn't make any sense for the Redskins to take one that won't have a more illustrious career than Rex Grossman when all's said and done, especially with no line to protect him, and an average, at best group of RB's and WR's. No purpose wasting time developing a guy that doesn't have franchise written all over him.

Given the Team's 2011 prospects (poor), I'd be perfectly fine fixing the Defense this year, and fixing the Offense next Season, when the Draft looks to be stronger on that side of the ball.

We'll see. Long time, no posting. Lurking always. Hello everyone.

Sure wish it was like the old days when I knew people inside the building and could give quality insight. Although my main buddy is no longer employed by the Team, he still privately trains at least 1/2 dozen players, and is friends with many more, but not being in the building, attending meetings and having relationships with Coaches and Managment, I know more about what the Players do in their down time than I do about the good stuff we're all interested in. Bummer.
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I think Dallas has better things to do than try to foil the Redskins. Also it's pretty tough to foil the Skins since the team needs someone at every position but SS and TE.
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I think Dallas just made my point, GB...Silverback and Smith...two bookend OT's? That was just too good to be true. Unreal he fell to 9 and got plucked by the Cowboys. Quite possibly Orakpo's nemesis for the next several years......not only that, they left Gabbert out there to force the 'skins to make a decision about. Brilliant...absolutely brilliant. Not as brilliant as Atlanta for that absolutely BALLSY move to steal Julio Jones, but brilliant nonetheless...

...and as I type this, I'm thanking God that the 'skins passed on Gabbert and traded down...

Dare I say it? HOPE???!!!

 
'nittanylion said:
'thayman said:
'nittanylion said:
I think it's fairly certain that, picking directly in front of them, Dallas will take every chance they get to foil and frustrate the Redskins where the opportunity presents itself. If they don't take the Offensive Tackle from USC at 1.09 for themselves, I almost guarantee they will sell that pick to anyone contingent on that Team agreeing to take whatever player they think is at the top of the Redskins' board...

...my views have remained relatively unchanged over the years. Time and again I have preached that a proper football team is built from the inside, out (O-Line / D-Line), but this year, I have a player I'm so in love with that I'd be ecstatic if they chose at 1.10, and he's the only guy I'd consider using the pick on, even over the USC OT, rather than moving back.

That guy would be: Prince Amukamara, CB Nebraska

Recycling Carlos Rodgers, with better eye/hand co-ordination, at a much lower cap # than it would take to re-sign Rodgers. He's a shutdown corner, who's also a solid run defender - along with the Otogwe signing, the 'skins would at least have ONE unit on the Team (Secondary) that would be complete and ready to go when the NFL goes back into session Monday following the Draft.

This Draft is very deep with 3-4 LB's LB/DE's and DE's, and plenty of bodies to develop a decent NT rotation. As much help as the Offense needs, it would be very easy to come out of this Draft with significant improvement to the Defense, and put a Defense on the field that could keep the Team in games, and give a handicapped Offense more opportunities via turnovers and drive stops, and the occaisional short field to work with.

I don't see a QB in this Draft that's a long term answer for ANY TEAM, so, to me, it doesn't make any sense for the Redskins to take one that won't have a more illustrious career than Rex Grossman when all's said and done, especially with no line to protect him, and an average, at best group of RB's and WR's. No purpose wasting time developing a guy that doesn't have franchise written all over him.

Given the Team's 2011 prospects (poor), I'd be perfectly fine fixing the Defense this year, and fixing the Offense next Season, when the Draft looks to be stronger on that side of the ball.

We'll see. Long time, no posting. Lurking always. Hello everyone.

Sure wish it was like the old days when I knew people inside the building and could give quality insight. Although my main buddy is no longer employed by the Team, he still privately trains at least 1/2 dozen players, and is friends with many more, but not being in the building, attending meetings and having relationships with Coaches and Managment, I know more about what the Players do in their down time than I do about the good stuff we're all interested in. Bummer.
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I think Dallas has better things to do than try to foil the Redskins. Also it's pretty tough to foil the Skins since the team needs someone at every position but SS and TE.
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I think Dallas just made my point, GB...Silverback and Smith...two bookend OT's? That was just too good to be true. Unreal he fell to 9 and got plucked by the Cowboys. Quite possibly Orakpo's nemesis for the next several years......not only that, they left Gabbert out there to force the 'skins to make a decision about. Brilliant...absolutely brilliant. Not as brilliant as Atlanta for that absolutely BALLSY move to steal Julio Jones, but brilliant nonetheless...

...and as I type this, I'm thanking God that the 'skins passed on Gabbert and traded down...

Dare I say it? HOPE???!!!
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OT was a nobrainer for Dallas if they couldn't find a trading partner.
 
sounds like a solid safe pick AND a 2nd to boot. This is a HELL of a lot better than trading up or taking a QB Shanny didn't believe was a franchise player.

 
Great trade down and great pick by the Skins. Kerrigan is one of the safest players in the draft. Great motor, high character, relentless. I believe he'll be a 3-4 OLB, not a DE.

 
I admit I don't follow Purdue football so if this guy turns out to be another Clay Matthews at OLB (or Jared Allen at DE), then I will praise the genius of GM Allen.

keep hope alive :football:

 
Ryan Kerrigan

Ryan Kerrigan

Height: 6-3⅞ | Weight: 267 | 40-Time: 4.71

Ryan Kerrigan | Purdue Boilermakers

Official Bio

Strengths:

• Good size with a nice frame and growth potential

• More quick than fast but has a burst to close

• Able to get around the edge and run the arch

• Strong, powerful and an outstanding bull rusher

• Has a wide array of moves in pass rush repertoire

• Competitive and relentless with a non-stop motor

• Good range and does a great job in pursuit

• Reliable tackler who can deliver the big hit

• More than holds his own versus the run

• Displays violent hands and uses them well

• Shows the ability to disengage from blockers

• Smart with terrific instincts and awareness

• Utilizes proper technique and understands leverage

• Super tough and will play through pain / injuries

• Productive with a knack for making impact plays

• Superb leadership qualities and amazing work ethic

• Offers some positional and schematic versatility

• Lots of quality experience and a great pedigree

Weaknesses:

• Not a smooth athlete or overly explosive

• Average speed, agility and change of direction

• Ability to play on feet in space is a question mark

• May lack fluid hips and is unproven in coverage

• Some minor durability and health concerns

• Overall upside might be relatively limited

• May be a bit of a positional 'tweener

Notes:

A three-year starter and team captain for the Boilermakers --- Named 1st Team All-Big Ten in 2009 and 2010 --- A unanimous All-American selection in 2010 --- Honored as the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year and Defensive Lineman of the Year after leading the conference in sacks as a senior --- Also garnered notice from the Big Ten for his work in the classroom --- Led the entire nation in tackles for a loss as a senior --- Finished career at Purdue tied for second on the school's all-time sack list --- 14 career forced fumbles set the Big Ten record and tied the NCAA mark --- Hails from the same college program that produced NFL pass rushers such as Rosevelt Colvin, Chike Okeafor, Shaun Phillips, Ray Edwards, Rob Ninkovich, Anthony Spencer and Cliff Avril --- Suffered a broken foot in the final game of the 2009 season, which had to be surgically repaired --- Could project to defensive end in a 4-3 scheme or outside linebacker in an odd (3-4) front --- Fantastic football player who compensates for a lack of eye-popping physical tools with top-notch intangibles --- Draft stock soared after a standout senior campaign and it seemed as though everyone who saw him play came away singing his praises --- Might never be an "elite" sack artist along the lines of Julius Peppers but will be a very good player for a long time -- Profiles as a Chris Long-type of presence at the next level.

Career Statistics

Year GP TKL TFL SACK

2007 12 18 1.0 7.0

2008 12 56 11.5 7.0

2009 12 65 17.0 11.0

2010 12 70 26.0 12.5

Totals 48 209 55.5 37.5

 
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'thayman said:
They need to go BPA with both picks in the 2nd. I'd preffer no QB since I like next year's QB class better and I think we will have a pretty high pick.
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I feel the same way. And I'd be elated if BPA was a nose tackle and either a center or guard.
 
Great quoting by CSN Washington:

Kerrigan also paid a pre-draft visit to Redskin Park.

“You can see he picks up the game extremely well,” Shanahan said. “Anytime you talk to a defensive end about the linebacker position, you go through your defensive scheme, adjustments, secondary coverages and a defensive end picks it up very quickly without playing the position, [it shows] he has some football intelligent.”
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Dude is strong

Kerrigan is an athletic end, clocking a time of 4.72 in the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine and bench-pressing 225 pounds a total of 40 times. He was an aggressive end for the Boilermakers, forcing 14 fumbles and tallying 33.5 sacks during his four years at Purdue. He led the nation in fumbles caused in both his junior and senior seasons.

:shock:

 
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