***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[TobiasFunke]

Remaining schedulehiladelphia Eagles@ Carolina Panthers@ Buffalo BillsSan Francisco 49ers@ Miami DolphinsDallas Cowboys@Seattle SeahawksNew York JetsNew England Patriots@ New York GiantsMinnesota Vikings@ Philadelphia EaglesI'm definitely in the "This is an average team" camp and the "They're an 8-8 team" camp. However, I only see one game they have no business winning and that's New England. They have four division games remaining and I could see them splitting those (beat Dallas, lose to NY, and split with Philly). I know they'll lose games they probably should win. I'd say that includes Carolina, San Francisco, Miami, Seattle, and Minnesota. Maybe they go 3-2 in those games? That would have them at 8-6 with Buffalo and the Jets unaccounted for. They won't be favored in those. Take one of those, and they could get to that 9th win.I know, this is a weird league. Things can change quickly. Minnesota could be a tough game come December and Buffalo could head for a free fall and be an easy win. And, of course, the Cam-led Panthers could start winning any week But, hey, we're headed into the bye and I just wanted to look ahead.

The Buffalo game is in Toronto. I don't know much about that region but I have to assume that Buffalo won't get full home-field advantage in that one. All in all it's a very friendly schedule, particularly with respect to their staying in the playoff race. The last five are really tough but the seven before that are all very winnable. If they simply go 4-3 over those seven- and looking at the schedule that seems more than reasonable- they'll be at 7-4 and in the thick of the playoff race going into that brutal closing stretch. And honestly being in the middle of the playoff race after Thanksgiving is more than I could have possibly hoped for this year. Hope it happens.I also hear a lot of people talking about yesterday's game as somehow unimpressive or not encouraging. Boswell in particular, in the Post this morning. That's BS. Anytime you win on the road it's huge, no matter who the opponent, and the Rams are certainly not the worst team in the league. And the Skins handled them with relative ease, despite the final score. They outgained the Rams 339-172. It was one of the more one-sided 7 point games I've ever seen.

 

[Marvelous]

Remaining schedulehiladelphia Eagles@ Carolina Panthers@ Buffalo BillsSan Francisco 49ers@ Miami DolphinsDallas Cowboys@Seattle SeahawksNew York JetsNew England Patriots@ New York GiantsMinnesota Vikings@ Philadelphia EaglesI'm definitely in the "This is an average team" camp and the "They're an 8-8 team" camp. However, I only see one game they have no business winning and that's New England. They have four division games remaining and I could see them splitting those (beat Dallas, lose to NY, and split with Philly). I know they'll lose games they probably should win. I'd say that includes Carolina, San Francisco, Miami, Seattle, and Minnesota. Maybe they go 3-2 in those games? That would have them at 8-6 with Buffalo and the Jets unaccounted for. They won't be favored in those. Take one of those, and they could get to that 9th win.I know, this is a weird league. Things can change quickly. Minnesota could be a tough game come December and Buffalo could head for a free fall and be an easy win. And, of course, the Cam-led Panthers could start winning any week But, hey, we're headed into the bye and I just wanted to look ahead.

The Buffalo game is in Toronto. I don't know much about that region but I have to assume that Buffalo won't get full home-field advantage in that one. All in all it's a very friendly schedule, particularly with respect to their staying in the playoff race. The last five are really tough but the seven before that are all very winnable. If they simply go 4-3 over those seven- and looking at the schedule that seems more than reasonable- they'll be at 7-4 and in the thick of the playoff race going into that brutal closing stretch. And honestly being in the middle of the playoff race after Thanksgiving is more than I could have possibly hoped for this year. Hope it happens.I also hear a lot of people talking about yesterday's game as somehow unimpressive or not encouraging. Boswell in particular, in the Post this morning. That's BS. Anytime you win on the road it's huge, no matter who the opponent, and the Rams are certainly not the worst team in the league. And the Skins handled them with relative ease, despite the final score. They outgained the Rams 339-172. It was one of the more one-sided 7 point games I've ever seen.

There are definately unimpressive parts to the game:1. The offense looks pretty bad early on when Hightower was in at rb. The offense looked a lot better once Torrain started running the ball. The pass game opens up.2. The Redskins were very comfortably ahead and two turnovers appeared to put St. Louis right back into the game. The first one, Moss has the ball bounce out of his hands and into the defenders hands. The second was a dreadful pass by Grossman. Grossman had a number of other passes that could have been intercepted too. It was not a good game for him at all.

 

[Marvelous]

Another note: it looks like the Redskins will now be a RBBC team. I would expect Torain to be the starter, Helu the change of pace back, and Hightower the 3rd down back and possibly goal line back.

We have another Shanahan 3-head rb monster.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Remaining schedulehiladelphia Eagles@ Carolina Panthers@ Buffalo BillsSan Francisco 49ers@ Miami DolphinsDallas Cowboys@Seattle SeahawksNew York JetsNew England Patriots@ New York GiantsMinnesota Vikings@ Philadelphia EaglesI'm definitely in the "This is an average team" camp and the "They're an 8-8 team" camp. However, I only see one game they have no business winning and that's New England. They have four division games remaining and I could see them splitting those (beat Dallas, lose to NY, and split with Philly). I know they'll lose games they probably should win. I'd say that includes Carolina, San Francisco, Miami, Seattle, and Minnesota. Maybe they go 3-2 in those games? That would have them at 8-6 with Buffalo and the Jets unaccounted for. They won't be favored in those. Take one of those, and they could get to that 9th win.I know, this is a weird league. Things can change quickly. Minnesota could be a tough game come December and Buffalo could head for a free fall and be an easy win. And, of course, the Cam-led Panthers could start winning any week But, hey, we're headed into the bye and I just wanted to look ahead.

The Buffalo game is in Toronto. I don't know much about that region but I have to assume that Buffalo won't get full home-field advantage in that one. All in all it's a very friendly schedule, particularly with respect to their staying in the playoff race. The last five are really tough but the seven before that are all very winnable. If they simply go 4-3 over those seven- and looking at the schedule that seems more than reasonable- they'll be at 7-4 and in the thick of the playoff race going into that brutal closing stretch. And honestly being in the middle of the playoff race after Thanksgiving is more than I could have possibly hoped for this year. Hope it happens.I also hear a lot of people talking about yesterday's game as somehow unimpressive or not encouraging. Boswell in particular, in the Post this morning. That's BS. Anytime you win on the road it's huge, no matter who the opponent, and the Rams are certainly not the worst team in the league. And the Skins handled them with relative ease, despite the final score. They outgained the Rams 339-172. It was one of the more one-sided 7 point games I've ever seen.

There are definately unimpressive parts to the game:1. The offense looks pretty bad early on when Hightower was in at rb. The offense looked a lot better once Torrain started running the ball. The pass game opens up.2. The Redskins were very comfortably ahead and two turnovers appeared to put St. Louis right back into the game. The first one, Moss has the ball bounce out of his hands and into the defenders hands. The second was a dreadful pass by Grossman. Grossman had a number of other passes that could have been intercepted too. It was not a good game for him at all.

Of course there were unimpressive parts of the game. There are unimpressive parts of every game. Hell they came out totally flat and trailed 10-0 at the end of the first quarter of Super Bowl XXII.Bottom line, they won with a pretty dominating performance on the road. That they did it with Grossman playing so poorly (you forgot about the awful miss of a wide-open Santana Moss to convert on third and short with under 4 minutes left and basically end the game; I thought that was his worst mistake of the game) is actually encouraging in my opinion. We all know he's not Tom Brady, this is what we're gonna get throughout the season. Weathering a "bad Rex" game and still taking care of business on the road is a huge positive.

 

[DCThunder]

Be nice if whoever started this thread would edit the Subhead occasionally. Just saying....

 

[dgreen]

The last five are really tough but the seven before that are all very winnable. If they simply go 4-3 over those seven- and looking at the schedule that seems more than reasonable- they'll be at 7-4 and in the thick of the playoff race going into that brutal closing stretch.

I really don't see those final 5 as all that brutal. I'm not impressed with the Jets and Minnesota is pretty awful.It will be nice, though, if those 5 are meaningful.

 

[MikeApf]

If I had to make a prediction:

Philadelphia Eagles

@ Carolina Panthers

@ Buffalo Bills

San Francisco 49ers

@ Miami Dolphins

Dallas Cowboys

@Seattle Seahawks

New York Jets

New England Patriots

@ New York Giants

Minnesota Vikings

@ Philadelphia Eagles

NFC East: Split with Philly, beat Dallas at home, lose to Giants on the road: 2-2

Probable Non Division Losses: Buffalo, New York Jets, New England Patriots: 0-3

Probable Non Division Wins: Miami, Minnesota: 2-0

Toss Ups: Carolina away (if Cam goes off can they outscore them?), San Fran at home (SF beat Philly and almost beat Dallas...that makes them viable), Seattle away (tough place to play)

That leaves them at 7-6 with three undecided games. Win them all, and you are 10-6 and may squeak into playoffs. Lose them all and you are 7-9, only one game better than last year. So predictions of 8-8 still seem legit.

To me, it all hinges on the play of Rex Grossman. He is doing ok, but still makes critical turnovers, almost giving the game back to St. Louis. This really seals the deal to me in terms of their offseason strategy next year. The team around the QB position is MUCH better, particularly with respect to Defense and RB. Next year with a deep QB class you have to grab the "QB of the Future" and continue to focus on Offensive Line. Perhaps NEXT year we'll look at a more realistic scenario where they can make a playoff push. As for this year, even after the good start, I think it's only an outside chance.

The good news is that for the first time in years, we do have legitimate reason to be hopeful for the future.

 

[TobiasFunke]

The last five are really tough but the seven before that are all very winnable. If they simply go 4-3 over those seven- and looking at the schedule that seems more than reasonable- they'll be at 7-4 and in the thick of the playoff race going into that brutal closing stretch.

I really don't see those final 5 as all that brutal. I'm not impressed with the Jets and Minnesota is pretty awful.It will be nice, though, if those 5 are meaningful.

They're likely going to be underdogs by more than a field goal in three of the five games even if they enter that stretch at 7-4. That's brutal by NFL standards. I agree that the Jets don't look very good at the moment but they're still a talented team. Based on the evidence we have after four weeks I agree that they should handle the Vikings at home, but 4 out of 5 games that will require a B+ effort or better to win still makes for a tough stretch to close out the season.I agree, if most or all of those last 5 are meaningful I think the season's a complete success.

 

[Sebowski]

To me, it all hinges on the play of Rex Grossman.

This. With Rexy at the helm it isn't a matter of if Rex makes mistakes, but when and how often. If we are in the think of it at the end of the season and even play a playoff game or two I might have a heart attack watching this guy play quarterback.

 

[Sebowski]

Can we talk about those terrible Roger Goodel Flag Football calls yesterday? I knew it wouldn't get any media coverage, but I think it deserves some attention. Those hits on the punts were all perfectly legal. If the guy doesn't want to get hit he should call for a fair catch. All those hits were perfectly timed right after the guy caught the ball. And that roughing the passer BS was utter crap too. Brafford got wrapped up right after he threw the ball. What's the defender really suppose to do in that split second? I thought he took it easy on Bradford.

Speaking of hitting Bradford, I LOVE our new front 7. Yesterday was just a race to the quarterback. Kerrigan and Orakpo from both sides and Coefield up the middle. Great pressure. Awesome future with that D if they can properly replace Fletcher down the road.

 

[thayman]

Can we talk about those terrible Roger Goodel Flag Football calls yesterday? I knew it wouldn't get any media coverage, but I think it deserves some attention. Those hits on the punts were all perfectly legal. If the guy doesn't want to get hit he should call for a fair catch. All those hits were perfectly timed right after the guy caught the ball. And that roughing the passer BS was utter crap too. Brafford got wrapped up right after he threw the ball. What's the defender really suppose to do in that split second? I thought he took it easy on Bradford.Speaking of hitting Bradford, I LOVE our new front 7. Yesterday was just a race to the quarterback. Kerrigan and Orakpo from both sides and Coefield up the middle. Great pressure. Awesome future with that D if they can properly replace Fletcher down the road.

I'd like to see how many time Orakpo gets held. I swear he gets held more than anyone I've ever seen.

 

[dgreen]

Trent Cole will likely miss the game in two weeks.

 

[crispus attucks]

Remaining schedule:

Philadelphia Eagles

@ Carolina Panthers

@ Buffalo Bills

San Francisco 49ers

@ Miami Dolphins

Dallas Cowboys

@Seattle Seahawks

New York Jets

New England Patriots

@ New York Giants

Minnesota Vikings

@ Philadelphia Eagles

I'm definitely in the "This is an average team" camp and the "They're an 8-8 team" camp. However, I only see one game they have no business winning and that's New England. They have four division games remaining and I could see them splitting those (beat Dallas, lose to NY, and split with Philly). I know they'll lose games they probably should win. I'd say that includes Carolina, San Francisco, Miami, Seattle, and Minnesota. Maybe they go 3-2 in those games? That would have them at 8-6 with Buffalo and the Jets unaccounted for. They won't be favored in those. Take one of those, and they could get to that 9th win.

I know, this is a weird league. Things can change quickly. Minnesota could be a tough game come December and Buffalo could head for a free fall and be an easy win. And, of course, the Cam-led Panthers could start winning any week But, hey, we're headed into the bye and I just wanted to look ahead.

The Buffalo game is in Toronto. I don't know much about that region but I have to assume that Buffalo won't get full home-field advantage in that one. All in all it's a very friendly schedule, particularly with respect to their staying in the playoff race. The last five are really tough but the seven before that are all very winnable. If they simply go 4-3 over those seven- and looking at the schedule that seems more than reasonable- they'll be at 7-4 and in the thick of the playoff race going into that brutal closing stretch. And honestly being in the middle of the playoff race after Thanksgiving is more than I could have possibly hoped for this year. Hope it happens.

I also hear a lot of people talking about yesterday's game as somehow unimpressive or not encouraging. Boswell in particular, in the Post this morning. That's BS. Anytime you win on the road it's huge, no matter who the opponent, and the Rams are certainly not the worst team in the league. And the Skins handled them with relative ease, despite the final score. They outgained the Rams 339-172. It was one of the more one-sided 7 point games I've ever seen.

There are definately unimpressive parts to the game:1. The offense looks pretty bad early on when Hightower was in at rb. The offense looked a lot better once Torrain started running the ball. The pass game opens up.

2. The Redskins were very comfortably ahead and two turnovers appeared to put St. Louis right back into the game. The first one, Moss has the ball bounce out of his hands and into the defenders hands. The second was a dreadful pass by Grossman. Grossman had a number of other passes that could have been intercepted too. It was not a good game for him at all.

Of course there were unimpressive parts of the game. There are unimpressive parts of every game. Hell they came out totally flat and trailed 10-0 at the end of the first quarter of Super Bowl XXII.Bottom line, they won with a pretty dominating performance on the road. That they did it with Grossman playing so poorly (you forgot about the awful miss of a wide-open Santana Moss to convert on third and short with under 4 minutes left and basically end the game; I thought that was his worst mistake of the game) is actually encouraging in my opinion. We all know he's not Tom Brady, this is what we're gonna get throughout the season. Weathering a "bad Rex" game and still taking care of business on the road is a huge positive.

he air-mailed that bad boy - I remember thatand I must give propers to #94 DE Adam K who had his best game of the year. He made a few plays!

 

[thayman]

If you want a good laugh go check out the Iggles thread.....some good times over there.

 

[dgreen]

Remaining schedulehiladelphia Eagles@ Carolina Panthers@ Buffalo BillsSan Francisco 49ers@ Miami DolphinsDallas Cowboys@Seattle SeahawksNew York JetsNew England Patriots@ New York GiantsMinnesota Vikings@ Philadelphia Eagles

This remaining schedule currently has a combined record of 20-28 (0.417).

 

[thayman]

Remaining schedulehiladelphia Eagles@ Carolina Panthers@ Buffalo BillsSan Francisco 49ers@ Miami DolphinsDallas Cowboys@Seattle SeahawksNew York JetsNew England Patriots@ New York GiantsMinnesota Vikings@ Philadelphia Eagles

This remaining schedule currently has a combined record of 20-28 (0.417).

It's funny how it looks different from 4 weeks in than preseason. Buffalo now looks pretty tough and who knows how much Philly will continue to implode.

 

[gump]

I just realized that I live next door to longtime Gibbs-staffer Jack Burns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Burns_(American_football_coach)

Anybody have any scoop on him? Seems like a great guy.....just talked to him for 30 minutes over the fence and the convo led into Monte Kiffin and the birth of the Tampa 2.

 

[dgreen]

I just realized that I live next door to longtime Gibbs-staffer Jack Burns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Burns_(American_football_coach)

Anybody have any scoop on him? Seems like a great guy.....just talked to him for 30 minutes over the fence and the convo led into Monte Kiffin and the birth of the Tampa 2.

Don't know anything about him. But, since he was a Gibbs guy, I'm guessing "great guy" is probably a good description.

 

[dgreen]

Hi folks,

I am looking for a pair of tickets to the Skins-Eagles. Gonna take my boy to his first game. Anyone have tickets they want to sell? Please PM me.

thanks,

Skinsfan

Did you get tickets yet?I got an email about Eagles player tickets being returned, so they are offering some face value upper level tickets ($64). Call 301-276-6050 or go here to order.

 

[southeastjerome]

Awfully quiet in here with the team winning. Five pages through 5 weeks!!

 

[gump]

I just realized that I live next door to longtime Gibbs-staffer Jack Burns:

http://en.wikipedia...._football_coach)

Anybody have any scoop on him? Seems like a great guy.....just talked to him for 30 minutes over the fence and the convo led into Monte Kiffin and the birth of the Tampa 2.

Don't know anything about him. But, since he was a Gibbs guy, I'm guessing "great guy" is probably a good description.

He was also on the VIkings staff with Dungy and Kiffin...some interesting thoughts there. Coached college at Florida and Auburn among some other stops too. His personality is exactly how you'd think it would be for a 65 year old retired coach from the south. I bet there is a whiskey on the rocks in his hand by 6 PM every night.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Awesome.

PRO FOOTBALL; The Broncos' Shanahan Is Ruthless for a Reason

By MIKE FREEMAN

Published: September 13, 1998

Kansas City quarterback Elvis Grbac remembered a story this past week that encapsulated Denver Coach Mike Shanahan, perhaps the smartest and most talented, yet most ruthless, head coach in the National Football League.

It was 1994 and Shanahan and Grbac were both with the San Francisco 49ers. Shanahan, the offensive coordinator, was working with Grbac before a game against Oakland. Shanahan had spent just over one season as coach of the Raiders before being dismissed by the owner, Al Davis. The breakup was bitter, and the two men despised each other, mainly because of a dispute over back pay.

Davis, as he does before almost every game, was walking the field, talking to players and others. Shanahan pulled Grbac aside, Grbac recalled, and gave an unusual order: ''See Al Davis over there? I want you to throw the ball right at him.''

A shocked Grbac replied: ''I can't do that. If I hit him, do you know what he could do to me?''

Shanahan looked at Grbac with his intense glare and said, ''Throw the ball.''

So Grbac did. He threw a tight, hard spiral some 30 yards directly at the head of Davis. At the last second, Davis saw it and ducked, the ball missing him by only a few inches. Davis, his hair ruffled, then made an obscene gesture at Shanahan, witnessed by a former Raiders coach who confirmed Grbac's story.

 

[thayman]

The Eagles are reeling right now. Sending them into their bye week with a loss pretty much causes that team to completely implode. Huge division game at home this week, I'd like to see the Skins show how much they have improved by coming off their bye with a convincing win.

 

[crispus attucks]

If you want a good laugh go check out the Iggles thread.....some good times over there.

additionally, a google search on: youtube 445 "this team sucks"brings up some quality videoI'd link to it, but language is too salty for the kids

 

[Sylira21]

The Eagles are reeling right now. Sending them into their bye week with a loss pretty much causes that team to completely implode. Huge division game at home this week, I'd like to see the Skins show how much they have improved by coming off their bye with a convincing win.

I'd be satisfied with a cheap, dirty, undeserved win.

 

[dgreen]

The Eagles are reeling right now. Sending them into their bye week with a loss pretty much causes that team to completely implode. Huge division game at home this week, I'd like to see the Skins show how much they have improved by coming off their bye with a convincing win.

I'd be satisfied with a cheap, dirty, undeserved win.

Can't be picky this week with style points. That's what the Rams are for.

 

[The Doctor]

Awfully quiet in here with the team winning. Five pages through 5 weeks!!

Yes sir, we are humble winners. unlike dallas/giants/eagles and steelers fans

Hi folks,

I am looking for a pair of tickets to the Skins-Eagles. Gonna take my boy to his first game. Anyone have tickets they want to sell? Please PM me.

thanks,

Skinsfan

Did you get tickets yet?I got an email about Eagles player tickets being returned, so they are offering some face value upper level tickets ($64). Call 301-276-6050 or go here to order.

how old is your son? that may not be the best game to take him too - that matchup gets a rowdy crowd

 

[dgreen]

Awfully quiet in here with the team winning. Five pages through 5 weeks!!

Yes sir, we are humble winners. unlike dallas/giants/eagles and steelers fans

With a win this weekend, a lot of people will move from humble to crazy pretty easily.Unfortunately, I have a feeling Philly's going to win this one. Despite being 1-4, they're very dangerous offensively.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Awfully quiet in here with the team winning. Five pages through 5 weeks!!

Yes sir, we are humble winners. unlike dallas/giants/eagles and steelers fans

With a win this weekend, a lot of people will move from humble to crazy pretty easily.Unfortunately, I have a feeling Philly's going to win this one. Despite being 1-4, they're very dangerous offensively.

I dunno. The Skins have started like this in recent history far too often. The 6-2 start to the Zorn era is still fresh in most fans' minds. I've definitely sensed a shift in the city's sports mentality in the last few years. The irrational optimism has been replaced by a fatalistic dread thanks to Snyder and the Caps' annual playoff flop and the annual suckiness of the other two local teams. Sorta like Cleveland lite. I bet that even if they win this weekend less than 50% of Redskins fans would honestly predict a playoff berth.

 

[dgreen]

Awfully quiet in here with the team winning. Five pages through 5 weeks!!

Yes sir, we are humble winners. unlike dallas/giants/eagles and steelers fans

With a win this weekend, a lot of people will move from humble to crazy pretty easily.Unfortunately, I have a feeling Philly's going to win this one. Despite being 1-4, they're very dangerous offensively.

I dunno. The Skins have started like this in recent history far too often. The 6-2 start to the Zorn era is still fresh in most fans' minds. I've definitely sensed a shift in the city's sports mentality in the last few years. The irrational optimism has been replaced by a fatalistic dread thanks to Snyder and the Caps' annual playoff flop and the annual suckiness of the other two local teams. Sorta like Cleveland lite. I bet that even if they win this weekend less than 50% of Redskins fans would honestly predict a playoff berth.

Since people tend to hang out with people similar to themselves, I'm guessing most of us spend our time talking with other rational Skins fans who won't overreact to the possibility of being 4-1 and leading the division. But, I'll almost guarantee that talk radio and their callers will start to go nuts Monday, especially if it's a convincing win.Anyway, it's a big game. I think the stadium might have something close to a playoff-type atmosphere. I think a win could set the stage for the rest of the season. Similarly, I thought a win in Dallas could have done the same thing. But, they lost that and it kept expectations reasonable. This is another situation, IMO, of a game that could swing things in the near future. A loss has us all saying "Yep, on our way to 8-8 like we thought." A win, even for us sane people, leads to, "You know, the playoffs are legit talk now." For the crazies, it will be, "We're winning the division. It's a lock."

 

[TobiasFunke]

Awfully quiet in here with the team winning. Five pages through 5 weeks!!

Yes sir, we are humble winners. unlike dallas/giants/eagles and steelers fans

With a win this weekend, a lot of people will move from humble to crazy pretty easily.Unfortunately, I have a feeling Philly's going to win this one. Despite being 1-4, they're very dangerous offensively.

I dunno. The Skins have started like this in recent history far too often. The 6-2 start to the Zorn era is still fresh in most fans' minds. I've definitely sensed a shift in the city's sports mentality in the last few years. The irrational optimism has been replaced by a fatalistic dread thanks to Snyder and the Caps' annual playoff flop and the annual suckiness of the other two local teams. Sorta like Cleveland lite. I bet that even if they win this weekend less than 50% of Redskins fans would honestly predict a playoff berth.

Since people tend to hang out with people similar to themselves, I'm guessing most of us spend our time talking with other rational Skins fans who won't overreact to the possibility of being 4-1 and leading the division. But, I'll almost guarantee that talk radio and their callers will start to go nuts Monday, especially if it's a convincing win.Anyway, it's a big game. I think the stadium might have something close to a playoff-type atmosphere. I think a win could set the stage for the rest of the season. Similarly, I thought a win in Dallas could have done the same thing. But, they lost that and it kept expectations reasonable. This is another situation, IMO, of a game that could swing things in the near future. A loss has us all saying "Yep, on our way to 8-8 like we thought." A win, even for us sane people, leads to, "You know, the playoffs are legit talk now." For the crazies, it will be, "We're winning the division. It's a lock."

I don't know about going nuts unless it really is a convincing win, but otherwise, I agree. It's a huge game, and even reasonable/pessimistic longtime fans like us will be forced to acknowledge the real possibility of a playoff run if they win. Not probability, but certainly possibility. And I totally agree that everyone will drop right back down to our previous low expectations with a loss, even though the Eagles are a talented team and the Skins would still be 3-2.

 

[dgreen]

I haven't seen the secondary ticket market like this. Right now there are only 93 tickets available on StubHub. I've never seen it that low. There's usually still a couple thousand remaining at this point, even for division games. Aside from the Loge Seats available for only $149.00, most tickets are priced around 2x face value. I don't see how visiting Philly fans could have this affect. I believe this is pretty much all due to Redskins fans interest. A good sign of how big this game is.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I haven't seen the secondary ticket market like this. Right now there are only 93 tickets available on StubHub. I've never seen it that low. There's usually still a couple thousand remaining at this point, even for division games. Aside from the Loge Seats available for only $149.00, most tickets are priced around 2x face value. I don't see how visiting Philly fans could have this affect. I believe this is pretty much all due to Redskins fans interest. A good sign of how big this game is.

I think this is Washington's year in that division. They need to keep up the good D and take care of business when Dallas comes to town. But my opinion (FWIW) is Washington is going to the playoffs. Probably to lose to an NFC North team . . .

 

[Sebowski]

I haven't seen the secondary ticket market like this. Right now there are only 93 tickets available on StubHub. I've never seen it that low. There's usually still a couple thousand remaining at this point, even for division games. Aside from the Loge Seats available for only $149.00, most tickets are priced around 2x face value. I don't see how visiting Philly fans could have this affect. I believe this is pretty much all due to Redskins fans interest. A good sign of how big this game is.

I think this is Washington's year in that division. They need to keep up the good D and take care of business when Dallas comes to town. But my opinion (FWIW) is Washington is going to the playoffs. Probably to lose to an NFC North team . . .

Hip, Hip, Hooray!

 

[fatness]

Big day today.

They still look like an 8-8 team to me (which I am not complaining about, it's progress), and a loss today will reinforce that. A win and maybe things are different; maybe they have just barely enough talent, depth, and discipline to tilt those close games in their favor now.

Last year's 35-0 deficit at the beginning of the 2nd quarter against Philly was a low point, right after the Shanahans had benched McNabb and the team was bewildered and tanking for a bit.

This year the Eagles look horrible, like my mom could run (walk, actually) for 100 yards against them while they beat themselves.

Somewhere in between those 2 extremes is where the game will be played. It'll probably be a close, frustrating nailbiter, and will define a good bit of who the Skins are this year.

I might actually get to see this one. I have to go visit and check on my mom today, and she's in the fringes of Steeler and Eagle territory so it might be on TV.

"yes mom"

"no mom"

"I'm not watching the TV mom"

"yes I'm listening mom"

"I jumped up and yelled HELL YEAH because I agreed with you mom"

"yes mom"

"no mom"

"I'm too old for you to ground me, mom"

Go Skins.

 

[Warrior]

Don't look past the Iggles...they have made all kinds of mistakes and can't stop the run, but they are loaded with talent. A couple pick-6's could ruin our day pretty quickly.

 

[dgreen]

The D both lost this game and was the only reason they had a chance. They lost the game by their awful start. That start took the offense away from the run game and put Rex in a spot he can't produce. But, they corrected themselves and did a great job of shutting down Philly the rest of the game and kept this team in it.

Rex was ugly. Beck was ugly. Just about everything offensively was ugly.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

same #### different year

 

[PinkydaPimp]

same #### different year

 

[hammerva]

As bad as Grossman was today, I would not be surprised if Rexy is starting next week. Just because Beck got a mop up TD doesn't mean that the coaching geniuses will think he is better than Grossman.

After that performance, Rexy should be sent to Virginia and the UFL.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

As bad as Grossman was today, I would not be surprised if Rexy is starting next week. Just because Beck got a mop up TD doesn't mean that the coaching geniuses will think he is better than Grossman. After that performance, Rexy should be sent to Virginia and the UFL.

I don't even think Spurrier would want him at USC now

 

[dgreen]

same #### different year

Despite their record, that's a very talented Eagles team.

 

[DCThunder]

Did anybody hear Rex's post game presser? None of the picks were his fault, except maybe the first one, and that was "no big deal". All the rest were because receivers ran the wrong routes or the sun got in his eyes or something. He was throwing people under the bus with great gusto.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Posted at 05:18 PM ET, 10/16/2011

Lichtensteiger, Cooley, Williams suffer serious injuries

By Mike Jones

The Washington Redskins emerged from their 20-13 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles having lost starting left guard Kory Lichtensteiger to torn ligaments in his right knee, starting tight end Chris Cooley to a fractured index finger on his left hand and starting left tackle Trent Williams to a high right ankle sprain, coach Mike Shanahan said after the game.

The extent of damage to Lichtensteiger’s knee and length of his recovery are not yet known, but Shanahan said: “ACL/MCL, we’re not really sure right now, but he’s quite sore. It doesn’t look good.”

Lichtensteiger was injured on Washington’s fifth offensive play and had to be helped off the field. After he was tended to on the trainers table behind the bench, he was carted off to the locker room.

Cooley also needs surgery, Shanahan said.

Neither the coach nor Williams knew how long the ankle sprain would keep Williams sidelined, but Williams – Washington’s first-round pick from 2010 – left with his foot in a walking boot and described the pain as “excruciating.”

With Lichtensteiger out of the game, Shanahan moved center Will Montgomery to left guard and inserted 2010 seventh-round draft pick Erik Cook – who spent nearly all of last season on the practice squad – at center.

“It’s hard to lose, obviously, starters, and we’ve talked about that before,” Shanahan said. “Erik Cook, I was very proud of him. He hurt his calf before the game and couldn’t go through warm-ups, but he gutted it out, came out there and lasted the whole game for a guy that was not supposed to play, so I was pleased with him, how he was able to play.”

 

[thayman]

The D both lost this game and was the only reason they had a chance. They lost the game by their awful start. That start took the offense away from the run game and put Rex in a spot he can't produce. But, they corrected themselves and did a great job of shutting down Philly the rest of the game and kept this team in it.Rex was ugly. Beck was ugly. Just about everything offensively was ugly.

You can't pin much on the D. What do you expect to happen when the offense can only run what 15 plays in the first half?ETA: Beck didn't look great but did spark a little bit of life into the offense.

 

[dgreen]

Ugh. Not good. That could lead to a quick downward spiral.

 

[thayman]

Did anybody hear Rex's post game presser? None of the picks were his fault, except maybe the first one, and that was "no big deal". All the rest were because receivers ran the wrong routes or the sun got in his eyes or something. He was throwing people under the bus with great gusto.

What a donkey. The first pick was the only one that didn't matter. It was on a third and long and if not for Williams's penalty the Eagles would have started on the 3. They other 3 were just bonehead plays.

 

[dgreen]

The D both lost this game and was the only reason they had a chance. They lost the game by their awful start. That start took the offense away from the run game and put Rex in a spot he can't produce. But, they corrected themselves and did a great job of shutting down Philly the rest of the game and kept this team in it.Rex was ugly. Beck was ugly. Just about everything offensively was ugly.

You can't pin much on the D. What do you expect to happen when the offense can only run what 15 plays in the first half?

By any definition, the D was bad early on. Two very long TD drives put the team in a hole they aren't equipped to get out of.And I'm not saying it was the D's fault and the O wasn't to blame for anything. Both sides were bad in the first half. I guess I just expected (hoped) more from the defense. I didn't have any expectations for the offense.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Did anybody hear Rex's post game presser? None of the picks were his fault, except maybe the first one, and that was "no big deal". All the rest were because receivers ran the wrong routes or the sun got in his eyes or something. He was throwing people under the bus with great gusto.

just listened.

 

[thayman]

The D both lost this game and was the only reason they had a chance. They lost the game by their awful start. That start took the offense away from the run game and put Rex in a spot he can't produce. But, they corrected themselves and did a great job of shutting down Philly the rest of the game and kept this team in it.Rex was ugly. Beck was ugly. Just about everything offensively was ugly.

You can't pin much on the D. What do you expect to happen when the offense can only run what 15 plays in the first half?

By any definition, the D was bad early on. Two very long TD drives put the team in a hole they aren't equipped to get out of.And I'm not saying it was the D's fault and the O wasn't to blame for anything. Both sides were bad in the first half. I guess I just expected (hoped) more from the defense. I didn't have any expectations for the offense.

I just expect big drives given up by the D when the offense can't convert a third down until the 4th quarter.