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And there is completely unfounded speculation that the Texans could put in a claim for him, which would mean he would be running the same exact offense he was so great at running last year.'Sidewinder16 said:He should have punched him for hurting their draft position.
Also in the humorous department, the Vikings are expected to release McNabb.
so you're saying that you don't watch the games yet feel qualified to comment on Hall's play? based on what? what you see in a box score?look, Hall had his best game of the year (read: didn't get too toasted) but let's not make him out to be what he is not - a #1 CB6 pass breakups and the game clinching INT. I know he's not an uber elite cb, but he's pretty darn good. I don't understand the fans who act like he's terrible. Another thing I find funny is that I could not watch any Skins games or check out their scores all year and I would be able to accurately predict their exact season record simply based on which Skins fans here post in this thread 48 - 72 hours after each game ends.
Lots of people were saying what a scrub Rodgers was last year. I remember be told all off season as to what a great upgrade we were getting by picking up Wilson. Rodgers has been a stud for San Fran.Hall isn't a shutdown corner but he is a decent option for a rebuilding team.so you're saying that you don't watch the games yet feel qualified to comment on Hall's play? based on what? what you see in a box score?look, Hall had his best game of the year (read: didn't get too toasted) but let's not make him out to be what he is not - a #1 CB
And McNabb has been claimed by...drum roll....wait for it...NOBODY!
I think he has been largely overlooked. He hasn't been a complete rockstar but he has played well and I'm very happy to see a 4th rounder being such a solid contributor.
I was saving this for the offseason, but the two drafts under Shanahan/Allen look solid. Much better than the last two under Cerrato. Obviously it takes time to see how it all pans out. Most of the free agent aquisitions and trades have worked out fairly well. You just can't focus on the McNabb trade.
Don't appeal. Just take it now and be ready to go next season.
Idiots.
Right in time for the Fantasy Playoffs. #### that. APPEAL IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SUPREME COURT!'dgreen said:
I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.'thayman said:'Todd Andrews said:
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I watch every game. And there aren't 32 cb's in the league better than Hall, imo, which means he's a #1 cb (although he's in the bottom tier of #1 corners).so you're saying that you don't watch the games yet feel qualified to comment on Hall's play? based on what? what you see in a box score?look, Hall had his best game of the year (read: didn't get too toasted) but let's not make him out to be what he is not - a #1 CB
You guys crack me up.Kyle looks at the defensive schemes, the matchups, the flow of the game, etc. Tons of factors to take into account. The Jets have defensive coordinators too, and they're smart enough to see that 9 runs resulted in 10 points. Therefore, they change their schemes and change their defensive gameplan. The Redskins need to then adjust to that new gameplan as well. It's common sense. It didn't work out this time. Neither would the simple-minded mentality of "Running worked, therefore it will continue to work forever".Message board posters/armchair coaches look at one thing..."9 runs = 10 points". This is why you're not the offensive coordinator of a NFL franchise. It's not that simple.
Only 2 run attempts in 16 plays though? That's too extreme of a shift even if the defense has made adjustments. In your post, you are kind of making fun and positioning yourself as the "rational football mind" vs. "the complainers" but most people who know football will say you need more of a balance. Sorry but "you guys crack me up" is not a rational defense of going so unbalanced. I could easily say, "yeah, they are coming up to stop the run so try a few more passes" but that is different than passing virtually every time.And to add to that, the passes WEREN'T working. So, to follow your own reasoning, they should have adjusted their offensive play calling once more when passing on first, second and third downs yielded three incomplete passes.Here's what cracks me up on these message boards -- many people just bristle when you make any criticism at all. That's just as extreme as complaining every time. I said explicitly that I didn't say the coaching staff stunk, I just implied that it was too radical of a shift -- which by the way even the broadcasters in the booth (Dan Fouts specifically) openly questioned. And Dan Fouts is not just a "Redskin hater." So if you want to have a debate on it, we can, but don't just make it sound like anyone who complains doesn't understand football.
Here is a balanced assessment of the playcalling that I think makes a lot of sense:http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/redskins-talk/post/Putting-play-calling-vs-Jets-under-the-m?blockID=606064&feedID=6355Tandler argues that overall Helu's carries were balanced but that there were perhaps key times where they got away from the run, specifically:If there is one period of the game where the Redskins can be rightfully accused of abandoning the run, it is during drives 3, 4, and 5. The final possession of this sequence started when Perry Riley recovered a muffed punt at the Jets 18. The Redskins had all three of their timeouts but they didn’t once give it to Helu. They left four points on the table by settling for a field goal after getting the golden opportunity.
Thanks Kyle.BTW this is hardly the first time Kyle has gone pass-heavy when it didn't work. I guess you're too busy looking at schemes and matchups and flow to notice that.
sorry Mr. D. I must have been confused when you said the above. perhaps you meant to say 'if I was Fatness'No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I watch every game. And there aren't 32 cb's in the league better than Hall, imo, which means he's a #1 cb (although he's in the bottom tier of #1 corners).so you're saying that you don't watch the games yet feel qualified to comment on Hall's play? based on what? what you see in a box score?
Another thing I find funny is that I could not watch any Skins games or check out their scores all year and I would be able to accurately predict their exact season record simply based on which Skins fans here post in this thread 48 - 72 hours after each game ends.
look, Hall had his best game of the year (read: didn't get too toasted) but let's not make him out to be what he is not - a #1 CB
I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
on the other hand, these are not your average 25 yo slackers, this will cost Silverback $2m. dat be one spensive doobI care because if he tests positive again he is out for a year. Call me crazy but I want the best players on the field and with the team, not sitting at home.I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
Yeah, what could ever possibly be serious about adults being immature and having no common sense.
There is a reason he is called "Sleepy" Davis. I was hoping he would grow up a bit and be a leader of this team.
At a minimum, I would say that vast majority of athletes know how to not test positive for a recreational drug. Everyone one tested right after the lockout. 11 tested positive out of presumably 2880 football players (90 players in training camp). Maybe less if free agents and rookies not signed were not tested. So, that is a vast majority not testing positive.Then, the 11 were retested during the season. Only 2 tested positive again. Once again, the vast majority learn and do better.I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
From what I've read, these 2 einsteins thought the players were getting a 30 grace period for drug testing once the lockout ended and that's how they got popped.Really disappointed that TWill gets whacked these last 4 games. Not only does the team desperately need him, but he was playing as well as he had all season and these last 4 games were only going to help his development, imo.At a minimum, I would say that vast majority of athletes know how to not test positive for a recreational drug. Everyone one tested right after the lockout. 11 tested positive out of presumably 2880 football players (90 players in training camp). Maybe less if free agents and rookies not signed were not tested. So, that is a vast majority not testing positive.Then, the 11 were retested during the season. Only 2 tested positive again. Once again, the vast majority learn and do better.I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
I think calling the remaining two idiots is appropriate.
Sure. But I really don't care if they're idiots. I care if the Redskins make the playoffs/Super Bowl some time in the next five to ten years. This clearly doesn't hinder that effort the way that, say, a positive PED test (indicating they weren't as good as we thought) or a positive cocaine test or DUI arrest (indicating out of control behavior) would. If anything it helps, because the Skins are more likely to lose their next four without two of their best offensive players, giving them a better draft spot, plus it might make Davis cheaper to retain.'Marvelous said:At a minimum, I would say that vast majority of athletes know how to not test positive for a recreational drug. Everyone one tested right after the lockout. 11 tested positive out of presumably 2880 football players (90 players in training camp). Maybe less if free agents and rookies not signed were not tested. So, that is a vast majority not testing positive.Then, the 11 were retested during the season. Only 2 tested positive again. Once again, the vast majority learn and do better.I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
I think calling the remaining two idiots is appropriate.
This team is in desperate need of young leaders. If either gets popped again they will be out for a year. I like looking at the big picture and getting a higher draft pick is great but I can never support or root to lose under any circumstances guess I'm just not built to be excited to lose.Sure. But I really don't care if they're idiots. I care if the Redskins make the playoffs/Super Bowl some time in the next five to ten years. This clearly doesn't hinder that effort the way that, say, a positive PED test (indicating they weren't as good as we thought) or a positive cocaine test or DUI arrest (indicating out of control behavior) would. If anything it helps, because the Skins are more likely to lose their next four without two of their best offensive players, giving them a better draft spot, plus it might make Davis cheaper to retain.'Marvelous said:At a minimum, I would say that vast majority of athletes know how to not test positive for a recreational drug. Everyone one tested right after the lockout. 11 tested positive out of presumably 2880 football players (90 players in training camp). Maybe less if free agents and rookies not signed were not tested. So, that is a vast majority not testing positive.Then, the 11 were retested during the season. Only 2 tested positive again. Once again, the vast majority learn and do better.I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
I think calling the remaining two idiots is appropriate.
This is a crappy situation to be in for sure. There are always several ways to approach such situations:1. Take the ultra hard ### approach and cut your losses. That means letting Fred Davis leave next year (this is a contract year for him) and looking for a replacement for Williams and trading him or letting him go when his contract is up.This team is in desperate need of young leaders. If either gets popped again they will be out for a year. I like looking at the big picture and getting a higher draft pick is great but I can never support or root to lose under any circumstances guess I'm just not built to be excited to lose.Sure. But I really don't care if they're idiots. I care if the Redskins make the playoffs/Super Bowl some time in the next five to ten years. This clearly doesn't hinder that effort the way that, say, a positive PED test (indicating they weren't as good as we thought) or a positive cocaine test or DUI arrest (indicating out of control behavior) would. If anything it helps, because the Skins are more likely to lose their next four without two of their best offensive players, giving them a better draft spot, plus it might make Davis cheaper to retain.'Marvelous said:At a minimum, I would say that vast majority of athletes know how to not test positive for a recreational drug. Everyone one tested right after the lockout. 11 tested positive out of presumably 2880 football players (90 players in training camp). Maybe less if free agents and rookies not signed were not tested. So, that is a vast majority not testing positive.Then, the 11 were retested during the season. Only 2 tested positive again. Once again, the vast majority learn and do better.I couldn't possibly care less. Reportedly it was just weed. Helps the Skins' draft position and clearly isn't a sign of them having any serious problems other than some maturity/common sense questions. If you don't think the vast majority of professional athletes smoke weed, you're kidding yourself. They just smoked it at the wrong time and violated a stupid rule against it. the Skins would be crazy not to bring Davis back for this. Heck, maybe this lowers the price tag.
I think calling the remaining two idiots is appropriate.
Yeah, just about any other DB would have dropped Sanchez to the ground, run over to Greene, and made a TD-saving tackled.
The Redskins will likely be trailing and in catch up mode all day. Grossman is not a world beater, but I could see him slinging it to Moss all day and for Moss to have some decent stats in defeat. Even if he throws 3 picks, he'll keep slinging it and Moss will catch a number of those balls.Although I really like Helu, I'm a bit worried about the Redskins getting behind early and abandoning the run.I guess, the obvious question would be -- who are your other options -- but if we went there we should prolly do it in assistant coach...
I can't decide whether I want to :X or
at the fact that Paulsen is now the #1TE, and I can't decide whether to or at the fact that a beat writer actually put "better known for his blocking" in print.I hear ya.On a related note, didn't they work Sellers out at TE at camp? Not saying he's going to light it up like Cooley or Davis, but I'm sure they will try to work him in more. In the past, he was a serviceable weapon in the passing game. It should be interesting to see how he will do.You know when you hear a story, and the headlines of the story kind of dominate your outlook, and you momentarily forget about what that story means from a bigger picture point of view, and then you catch just a tiny snippet of info buried near the end of some newspaper article and suddenly you're slapped in the face with just how far reaching the dismal-ness of the situation really is? This is the snippet that did it for me:
I can't decide whether I want to :X or
