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****OFFICIAL**** Washington Redskins Offseason Thread (2 Viewers)
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ChrisCooleyFan
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NOOOOO
bulldog_guy
Footballguy
Trade with Miami!?!
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Can They Trade Down?
So with Quinn and Peterson still on the board - the scenario many in the Skins organization had dreamed of - will they be able to make it work to their advanatge. I hear the Bears tals as of 3 minutes ago had not progressed, but maybe Buffalo, Miami, Green Bay or someone else is willing to move up for an offensive player.
Also, Minnesota is high on Landry, Atlanta likes Landry and Okoye - so mayb e they make a push, too, because the Skins would be cool with dealing down a few spots and still getting one of either Landry or Okoye, the two defensive players they have identified as being worthy of the sixth pick.
Jamaal Anderson is the highest rated DE, but they have felt he is a stretch this high. Should they trade down he might be a target.
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So with Quinn and Peterson still on the board - the scenario many in the Skins organization had dreamed of - will they be able to make it work to their advanatge. I hear the Bears tals as of 3 minutes ago had not progressed, but maybe Buffalo, Miami, Green Bay or someone else is willing to move up for an offensive player.
Also, Minnesota is high on Landry, Atlanta likes Landry and Okoye - so mayb e they make a push, too, because the Skins would be cool with dealing down a few spots and still getting one of either Landry or Okoye, the two defensive players they have identified as being worthy of the sixth pick.
Jamaal Anderson is the highest rated DE, but they have felt he is a stretch this high. Should they trade down he might be a target.
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ChrisCooleyFan
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Skins Haven't Called Landry Yet
Heard he has not got the call yet, but the Skins are trying to trade down so that's not entirely unusual and theer is still some time left. They will try like heck to deal down.
Not sure if they have called Okoye, trying to pin it down.
Heard he has not got the call yet, but the Skins are trying to trade down so that's not entirely unusual and theer is still some time left. They will try like heck to deal down.
Not sure if they have called Okoye, trying to pin it down.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Landry 
He's ours per NFLN
He's ours per NFLN
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ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
I know Red doesnt like this pic but I do. NOONE CATCHES THE BALL OVER THE MIDDLE ALL YEAR!!!!!!!!!
bulldog_guy
Footballguy
Wow what a great secondary. Redskins need to push up front somehow, though.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
What can we get for Springs?
redman
Footballguy
The trade for Briggs would have gotten them Briggs of course, plus Chicago's late first rounder. I'm not so sure you're right because they could have added two guys to their defensive front seven, rather than one guy to their defensive back four.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
I wonder what Broughton will get so Landry can get number 30?
redman
Footballguy
Broughton will get cut.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
I know we're on pick 9, but is there any way we drafted Landry to trade him? This pick does not make sense to me...
redman
Footballguy
If you're asking whether that was our primary motive, I'd say no. However, it's not impossible that a trade happens though given how good Landry is, but that's still very doubtful.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Now that Quinn didnt go to Miami, are you guys a little at ease with the Landry pick now?
Yamato
Footballguy
Let's hope we can deal Springs or someone and move into the 3rd to get a DL. Just hope they don't trade their first round pick next year.
Yamato
Footballguy
Im OK with Landry. The Skins needed a safety and got one. Now they need to wheel and deal to get another pick today.
redman
Footballguy
It would be more accurate to say that I'm a little more at peace with the fact that we could not have traded down and gotten any kind of reasonable deal now that we know that Miami rated Quinn so low. As for Landry, I'm confident we got a talented, valuable player but I'm very uneasy that we didn't address our biggest, most glaring need.
bulldog_guy
Footballguy
buster c
Footballguy
No. NFL AXIOM: the game is won or lost in the trenches.and we ain't got none
I agree. Quinn slipping shows why we didn't make a trade. For once, people should give the FO some credit. They stood firm, and took the highest rated defensive player in the draft. And yes, he is a position of need. Maybe not as high as DE, but they were smart to take him. I'm happy.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
So am I
Yamato
Footballguy
Hmmm...I saw that Branch was out of shape at his pro day. Not a good thing on the biggest day of your football life. He could be a force or he could be a slug. Do you guys think that our current crop of DT can produce? Has anyone heard of DE Ikaika Alama-Francis? Very raw DE slotted to go late 2nd to early 3rd. He is a project but they might be able to get and not give up much.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
I'm happy with the pick. I think that trading down was the best option, but again, looking at who was behind us, and what they needed, if we traded down, we wouldn't have had a shot at some of the guys we wanted.
I'm a fan of trading back a few when nobody behind you has the same needs, but in this case a lot of our needs are other teams needs.
But I like Landry. I know our D-line got blown up last year, but IF Griffith can stay healthy, and Golston can improve and play some with Salave'a to keep them all healthy, the DT spot might not be that bad. With a little better coverage, Carter will have a few more steps to get to the QB, and maybe with a few more 3rd and longs we can resume the Greg Williams DB blitzes that worked so well in 2005.
Perfect pick? No. But not a bad one.
I'm a fan of trading back a few when nobody behind you has the same needs, but in this case a lot of our needs are other teams needs.
But I like Landry. I know our D-line got blown up last year, but IF Griffith can stay healthy, and Golston can improve and play some with Salave'a to keep them all healthy, the DT spot might not be that bad. With a little better coverage, Carter will have a few more steps to get to the QB, and maybe with a few more 3rd and longs we can resume the Greg Williams DB blitzes that worked so well in 2005.
Perfect pick? No. But not a bad one.
But you have to consider that this is the first year I can remember for a while that we didn't draft on need. At least we went ahead and picked the BPA took someone who can be a stud.I would have much rather got a DL but hey they always say that the good teams draft the BPA regardless of need, right? right?
or maybe I'm just trying to talk myself into it.....
redman
Footballguy
Taylor wasn't a need pick either. Anyway, I can live with the pick I guess, but I'm not happy about the (continuing) state of the D-line.But you have to consider that this is the first year I can remember for a while that we didn't draft on need. At least we went ahead and picked the BPA took someone who can be a stud.I would have much rather got a DL but hey they always say that the good teams draft the BPA regardless of need, right? right?
I'm less than happy with the D-line as well.....but the day is not over yet, maybe we sneak back up or find a nice gem tomorrow.Taylor wasn't a need pick either. Anyway, I can live with the pick I guess, but I'm not happy about the (continuing) state of the D-line.But you have to consider that this is the first year I can remember for a while that we didn't draft on need. At least we went ahead and picked the BPA took someone who can be a stud.I would have much rather got a DL but hey they always say that the good teams draft the BPA regardless of need, right? right?
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Coach Joe Speaks
Well, not a whole lot to glean from coach's brief comments to us media schlubs. They didn't get much action for the sixth pick I have heard, because as you can see Peterson went 7 and Quinn is dropping like a rock, so there weren't any player people wanted to trade up to 6 to get.
Once the Briggs thing cooled again, the Skins became resigned to using the pick, even with many people in the building really hoping they could get another player or first-day pick in a trade somehow.
So in the end they took the best defensive player on their board, which was Landry. Like I wrote 5 or 6 days ago, this will be an interesting coupling with LaRon eventually plays besides Sean Taylor. As Coach Joe himself said today, "It will be interesting to see how he fits in with Sean."
Yep. You said it.
Coach Joe says that Greg Blache feels good about the state of the defensive line. Well, that may be, but there is no shortage of people in the organization who would tell you that the D Line was the biggest position of need at the end of last season, and still is today. I fully expect these guys to explore trade options for the DE in the coming weeks, but as we know making those deals is very hard to do.
In the end the Skins were hamstrung by the lack of real gems in this draft and can't miss kids. The best talent was at positions they simply didn't need to address, and they were stuck at 6. It will be very interesting to monitor the career of Amobi Okoye - who went 10th overall to Houston and was the second-highest rated defensive player on Washington's board.
Taking Okoye at 6 may have been a little high, but like I said earlier in the week, I would have taken the risk at a position where there are serious issues.
As for Landry, Coach says the whole front office pretty much went to Landry's personal workout for them a few weeks back. They love his attitude, aggressiveness, ballhawking skills (sound like Taylor, anyone?) and he projects to a playmaker in the seconday. LaRon is not a Taylor clone, however, in terms of personality and some off field stuff.
So that's pretty much it. Coach Joe all but ruled out the Skins getting an additional pick today, and says they are focused on finding some players tomorrrow. They need to hit on a linebacker - again, there are some worries about Marcus's hip (Gibbs says he has been cleared to workout) and Rocky's knee beeing lingering injuries - and, by all means, find a D Lineman, too, at least for more depth.
Well, not a whole lot to glean from coach's brief comments to us media schlubs. They didn't get much action for the sixth pick I have heard, because as you can see Peterson went 7 and Quinn is dropping like a rock, so there weren't any player people wanted to trade up to 6 to get.
Once the Briggs thing cooled again, the Skins became resigned to using the pick, even with many people in the building really hoping they could get another player or first-day pick in a trade somehow.
So in the end they took the best defensive player on their board, which was Landry. Like I wrote 5 or 6 days ago, this will be an interesting coupling with LaRon eventually plays besides Sean Taylor. As Coach Joe himself said today, "It will be interesting to see how he fits in with Sean."
Yep. You said it.
Coach Joe says that Greg Blache feels good about the state of the defensive line. Well, that may be, but there is no shortage of people in the organization who would tell you that the D Line was the biggest position of need at the end of last season, and still is today. I fully expect these guys to explore trade options for the DE in the coming weeks, but as we know making those deals is very hard to do.
In the end the Skins were hamstrung by the lack of real gems in this draft and can't miss kids. The best talent was at positions they simply didn't need to address, and they were stuck at 6. It will be very interesting to monitor the career of Amobi Okoye - who went 10th overall to Houston and was the second-highest rated defensive player on Washington's board.
Taking Okoye at 6 may have been a little high, but like I said earlier in the week, I would have taken the risk at a position where there are serious issues.
As for Landry, Coach says the whole front office pretty much went to Landry's personal workout for them a few weeks back. They love his attitude, aggressiveness, ballhawking skills (sound like Taylor, anyone?) and he projects to a playmaker in the seconday. LaRon is not a Taylor clone, however, in terms of personality and some off field stuff.
So that's pretty much it. Coach Joe all but ruled out the Skins getting an additional pick today, and says they are focused on finding some players tomorrrow. They need to hit on a linebacker - again, there are some worries about Marcus's hip (Gibbs says he has been cleared to workout) and Rocky's knee beeing lingering injuries - and, by all means, find a D Lineman, too, at least for more depth.
ChrisCooleyFan
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fatness
Footballguy
I'll give them credit for that, yes. I'll also give them credit for continuing to try to make up for their past mistakes. They drafted Landry to make up for their huge mistake on Archuleta, which followed their mistake of letting Ryan Clark go. They signed London Fletcher to make up for their mistake in letting Antonio Pierce go. They dig holes, they fill them in.
fatness
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
The Skins are okay at DT with Golston and Montgomery from Day 2 last year. They still need a pass rusher but you can't fault them for taking Landry. He's a great player.
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
I agree the FO made the best decision with the hand they were dealt. They have made some boneheaded decisions in the past and are reckless with draft picks but at least we didn't get swindled in a trade down scenario. At 6 taking the BPA is a sound decision IMO. Landry will contribute immediately to the defense.
fatness
Footballguy
I think they chose the wrong player. They had Okoye and Landry rated as the only 2 defensive players worth taking at the #6 pick, with Landry slightly higher than Okoye. If both were OK at the #6 pick, they should have taken Okoye. Taking Landy because he was "BPA by a little bit" was the wrong move.
As least they didn't make some ####### trade, though.
As least they didn't make some ####### trade, though.
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Yamato
Footballguy
I can almost gaurantee that Landry was MUCH higher than Okoye. If it was close they would have gotten him. Bottom line the Washington Redskins drafted the highest rated defensive player in the draft. A no brainer.
Yamato
Footballguy
Sure I can. I did in high school. Played defensive tackle. 6'5" 310 here. Hey I even won the Punt Pass & Kick for the Northern VA area back in 75' and Joe Theisman was giving the awards away at the banquet.Fatness you and I should go out for the team. I would make a good 40 year old rookie.We still need help on the D-line. You can play defensive tackle, can't you Yamato?
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Updated all palyers gone before 5th rd
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