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The voice over with questions to Dolores was a different voice than the guy who we see actually ask her the questions.  The voice over sounded like the black doctor guy.

And the previews for upcoming shows pretty much make it clear that the at least some of the hosts become self aware.

I'm still going with mind####.  I'm in though. This has a ton of potential for some existential fun.

 
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tommyboy said:
And as far as Ted goes, he's evolved also.   He knows the routine of the daily train ride and remembers the "posse" guy, and the bar scene  etc.    Even though they're "wiping" him, he remembers.
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Based on what?

 
So it is basically animatronics in some nan made landscape. Anthony Hopkins wants them to become AI and have consciousness. Ed Harris is either "the one"or just wants to destroy the whole thing for some personal reason. 

I was confused at first whether it was like the matrix, but I guess it is an actual set rather than in your head. The set looked more fake when the staff was there cleaning up. 

What is the purpose of storing the decommissioned ones like in I, Robot?  They have no sentient. They are just programs. Why not recycle the materials? Seems like a bad idea ....

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
So it is basically animatronics in some nan made landscape. Anthony Hopkins wants them to become AI and have consciousness. Ed Harris is either "the one"or just wants to destroy the whole thing for some personal reason. 

I was confused at first whether it was like the matrix, but I guess it is an actual set rather than in your head. The set looked more fake when the staff was there cleaning up. 

What is the purpose of storing the decommissioned ones like in I, Robot?  They have no sentient. They are just programs. Why not recycle the materials? Seems like a bad idea ....
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I would say they're already AI with consciousness. They are aware, but kept ignorant. Anthony Hopkins wants to make them more human-like.

There are hints that there is another aspect to what's being done there than just a resort for the rich, and that Ed's character is on that track. This might also be the reason why they store defective hosts rather than destroying them. Or it could be that Anthony Hopkins keeps those around to test updates with.

 
bcdjr1 said:
I would say they're already AI with consciousness. They are aware, but kept ignorant. Anthony Hopkins wants to make them more human-like.

There are hints that there is another aspect to what's being done there than just a resort for the rich, and that Ed's character is on that track. This might also be the reason why they store defective hosts rather than destroying them. Or it could be that Anthony Hopkins keeps those around to test updates with.
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Scripts and programming with minimal deviation made me think they were not AI or aware. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Scripts and programming with minimal deviation made me think they were not AI or aware. 
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They run through a script, but they are able to improvise and react genuinely to any situation.  Without consciousness, you'd have to script out every possible response to every possible situation.  Plus, if they were not aware it would not be necessary to wipe their memories or have them go through psychological debriefing; asking if they question the nature of their reality, etc.

 
Sconch said:
That'in why the shootings are overblown and cheesy.  I'm sure the guests expect the violence to be like what they've seen in action movies. 
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The english writer said as much In the episode.  

 
Some interesting thoughts in here about selfawareness and morality. 

One thing that immediately came to mind was also, like bladerunner, who are actually human and who arent. I was getting a sense that some of the staff, like jeffrey wright and the hunter could be unaware bots ala sean young. Furthers the notions above about what defines "being human"

 
El Floppo said:
Some interesting thoughts in here about selfawareness and morality. 

One thing that immediately came to mind was also, like bladerunner, who are actually human and who arent. I was getting a sense that some of the staff, like jeffrey wright and the hunter could be unaware bots ala sean young. Furthers the notions above about what defines "being human"
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which makes one wonder why would you develop AI that is unaware that its AI?

 
Neo said:
That makes sense, I just didn't put two and two together that this is a real place on earth.  I thought they were somehow transported to a virtual or staged world.  
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it might not be on earth, for all we know it could be Mars. 

 
tommyboy said:
it might not be on earth, for all we know it could be Mars. 
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It's certainly somewhere not easy to travel back and forth from every day.  The writer guy asked the woman in charge how much longer she had on her rotation or something like that; could mean another planet or space station, or dimension, or nothing, or maybe we can turn this thread into a Game of Thrones thread, or it is pee.

 
I really liked the premier.  I thought the acting was solid when you look at it as if everyday people are supposed to be living out a western movie fantasy.  The music was great, and the scenes were shot beautifully.  Can't wait to see how they run with this.

 
This is 'Lost" set in the Wild West...

Keep an eye out for 4,8,15,16,23 and 42

and this bares very little resemblance to the 1973 movie I enjoyed as a youth.

Is that Locke and Hurley sitting on the train.?

 
On Sunday, I was having trouble following all the dialogue due to interruptions at home and it all seemed like a mess moving very quickly.  My second viewing last night was enjoyable and I'd suggest that to anyone who struggled through the first viewing.

 
bcdjr1 said:
Ted doesn't remember anything.  The first run through of the day, up to the part where Ed Harris shows up, is what Ted and Dolores' day would look like if they never interacted with guests.  The posse guy is part of the scenario; if there's no guest he asks Ted to join, and Ted says no so he can go to the saloon where he'll be hit on by the hooker, see Dolores come out of the general store, and go to her.  If there's a guest there, the posse guy asks the guest to join instead because that's basically a guest adventure.  Ted always wakes up on the train in the morning, gets off at the station and bumps into that guy crossing the street, etc.  Things only change when there are guests involved like the posse guy asking the guest to join the hunt for the outlaw, the guests distracting the madam when Ted turns down the hooker, or when the guest asks Ted to show he and his friends around so he can't go meet Dolores.
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i watched it again last night and you're right.   Although there is something about Ted that's telling, you see it when he focuses in on Dolores about to be raped in the barn and then later when he takes the dudes to the brothel, he's looking off into the distance, hearing what the humans are saying about using him for target practice.  That scene made me think he's learning/remembering/analyzing data.

You were also right about the guy in black, on second viewing, he's definitely human.  

I defintely think watching it twice is almost necessary to try to figure out all the mind ####### that's going on here.    I'm hooked

 
Not gonna read four pages so forgive me if this has been observed, but the Wanted poster showed a last name of "Escaton" which is Greek (I think) and regards the end days.

And I liked seeing all those perky mammaries. Good show.

 
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