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***OFFICIAL*** WHITE SOX THREAD (1 Viewer)

In need of another starter , soon. McCarthy proved he isn't ready and El Duque may be too old. Looks like Kenny is going to go after someone, he's denying everything but with the Twinkies and Tribe playing so well he has no choice. Jerry has to open up the pocket book. Crede and Uribe are going to have to do something with their bats in the 2nd half. The big lead is great but Garland and Buerhle are due to hit a bump hopefully Garcia takes charge during that period.
The names I've heard are Kenny Rogers and Jason Schmidt.
:confused: Why the heck would Texas trade their best pitcher when they're in the middle of the playoff hunt?
Don't know man, just names that I've heard thrown around. Hell I even saw Roger Clemens' name in the paper the other day. Maybe because of Rogers recent troubles they want to unload him, who knows :confused:
 
Don't know man, just names that I've heard thrown around. Hell I even saw Roger Clemens' name in the paper the other day. Maybe because of Rogers recent troubles they want to unload him, who knows :confused:
I don't know what moron speculated that Rogers was a possibility, but you might as well cross him off the list. He isn't going anywhere. Management lost half the team when they let Drese go. All hell would break loose if they traded Rogers. They need to be adding instead of subtracting at this point.
 
Don't know man, just names that I've heard thrown around. Hell I even saw Roger Clemens' name in the paper the other day. Maybe because of Rogers recent troubles they want to unload him, who knows :confused:
I don't know what moron speculated that Rogers was a possibility, but you might as well cross him off the list. He isn't going anywhere. Management lost half the team when they let Drese go. All hell would break loose if they traded Rogers. They need to be adding instead of subtracting at this point.
I believe that Kenny Rogers is also very upset with his contract hence the outburst a week or so ago, maybe that had something to do with the speculation as well... who knows :shrug:
 
Dye is on fire!
There are three things that I'm giddy about aside from the obvious (our record):1) Ken Williams can't trade for Carl Everett -- He's already on the team so no more sending prospects for Everett seemingly every season

2) Ken Williams can't sign Robert Alomar -- He's retired :pickle:

3) Ken Williams LOVES to deal -- No matter where the Sox are in the race, Williams always likes to pull off a deal or two, so I'm hoping he doesn't change his stripes now and goes out and gets something for a RUN :yes:

 
I believe that Kenny Rogers is also very upset with his contract hence the outburst a week or so ago, maybe that had something to do with the speculation as well... who knows :shrug:
If they completely fall apart before the deadline I can see them trading him. If they're anywhere close to being in the race though, he's not going to be moved.
 
Dye is on fire!
There are three things that I'm giddy about aside from the obvious (our record):1) Ken Williams can't trade for Carl Everett -- He's already on the team so no more sending prospects for Everett seemingly every season :lmao:

2) Ken Williams can't sign Robert Alomar -- He's retired :pickle: :lmao:

3) Ken Williams LOVES to deal -- No matter where the Sox are in the race, Williams always likes to pull off a deal or two, so I'm hoping he doesn't change his stripes now and goes out and gets something for a RUN :yes: :thumbup:
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The Brendan McCarthy experiment is over for the short term. He was sent down to the minors today. Their top 3 starters have been awesome thusfar (Buerhle, Garland, Garcia). Kenny Williams' challenge will be to see if there is anything there for the taking that The Boss won't be able to outbid $$$$$$ to get.

 
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Nice sweep of Detroit with Freddy tossing a CG today.

Approaching 30 games over .500   :shock:
Sorry about the Sox trip to Oakland, guy.Thanks for coming. :own3d:
Sorry about being 9 1/2 games out and having no chance of winning your division :goodposting: :own3d:
Sorry you've never, ever won anything.Good move trading away Lee, BTW.

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White Sox + Podsednick = 1st place and best recordBrewers + Lee = 4th place and 13 games back

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I would take Podsenik in a heartbeat over Lee. Carlos will do his usual fade and will have a sucky 2nd half. In addition he is a mediocre outfielder at best. He gets terrible jumps and loses so many balls in the air. The Sox for years have thought Hitting was the key they have finally come to the conclusion that good pitching and defense wins championships , big hits win you free agents.

 
I would take Podsenik in a heartbeat over Lee. Carlos will do his usual fade and will have a sucky 2nd half. In addition he is a mediocre outfielder at best. He gets terrible jumps and loses so many balls in the air. The Sox for years have thought Hitting was the key they have finally come to the conclusion that good pitching and defense wins championships , big hits win you free agents.
Lee actually played great defense for the Sox last year. I don't think "defense is his liability" tag is warranted. IMO
 
I would take Podsenik in a heartbeat over Lee. Carlos will do his usual fade and will have a sucky 2nd half. In addition he is a mediocre outfielder at best. He gets terrible jumps and loses so many balls in the air. The Sox for years have thought Hitting was the key they have finally come to the conclusion that good pitching and defense wins championships , big hits win you free agents.
Lee actually played great defense for the Sox last year. I don't think "defense is his liability" tag is warranted. IMO
:goodposting: I wasn't happy about the Lee for Podsednik trade at the time, but Podsednik is bucking the trend and getting on base at a decent clip this year. His 0.357 OBP isn't great (it's 28th among ML OFs) but given his work on the base paths, it's adequate. Carlos Lee has an OBP of 0.340 (42nd among OFs), and is a fraction of the threat Podsy is once on base. So, for now, the deal has worked out fine...over the life of their contracts? :shrug:

 
I would take Podsenik in a heartbeat over Lee. Carlos will do his usual fade and will have a sucky 2nd half. In addition he is a mediocre outfielder at best. He gets terrible jumps and loses so many balls in the air. The Sox for years have thought Hitting was the key they have finally come to the conclusion that good pitching and defense wins championships , big hits win you free agents.
Lee actually played great defense for the Sox last year. I don't think "defense is his liability" tag is warranted. IMO
:goodposting: I wasn't happy about the Lee for Podsednik trade at the time, but Podsednik is bucking the trend and getting on base at a decent clip this year. His 0.357 OBP isn't great (it's 28th among ML OFs) but given his work on the base paths, it's adequate. Carlos Lee has an OBP of 0.340 (42nd among OFs), and is a fraction of the threat Podsy is once on base. So, for now, the deal has worked out fine...over the life of their contracts? :shrug:
:goodposting: :yes: I was very weary of the trade at the beginning of the year, but Kenny Williams knew what he wanted and it has worked out quite nicely so far.

 
:goodposting: :yes:

I was very weary of the trade at the beginning of the year, but Kenny Williams knew what he wanted and it has worked out quite nicely so far.
Lee was addition by subtraction, plain and simple. Lee needed to go; and Williams got the best he possibly could value-wise. Podsednik has been a monster on the base paths - can he hold up through the dog days - we'll see. But Williams got a good lead-off man in exchange for Lee. Now if Vizciano can come around and help shore up the middle relief; then Williams will look even better.

 
I feel Lee was a commodity the Sox had ample supply of ie. power and Posednik had two qualities Ozzie required. Speed and defense. Lee has turned himself into a servicable OF but Posednik is quite a bit better. Viscaino was also aqcuired in that trade correct? He gives them added quality reliever depth. Win win trade at this point. Both teams have gotten a boost from the deal. this is a throwback trade in these times of trading stars costing big bucks for cheaper kids.

 
Big Hurt 10 HRs in 17 hits :eek:Team is full of low average thumpers (Hurt, Dye, Crede, Konerko) and grinders who get on base...there's no true stellar offensive force, but so far the combination has been just what the doctor ordered. :thumbup:

 
Big Hurt 10 HRs in 17 hits :eek:

Team is full of low average thumpers (Hurt, Dye, Crede, Konerko) and grinders who get on base...there's no true stellar offensive force, but so far the combination has been just what the doctor ordered. :thumbup:
The two consistent things so far have been:1.) Iguchi and Pods getting on base consistently, moving into scoring position and disrupting pitchers.

2.) Timely hitting, good base running and sacrifices - While Dye has certainly heated up (now over .275), Konerko is still below .250 and I don't think anyone in the lineup is hitting over .300. I believe the Sox also lead the league in sacrifices.

 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.

 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:

 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:
They CANNOT play .500 ball the rest of the way for the simple fact that the last time I checked the Twinkies are still in the same division. This is the single greatest half of a season I have ever seen from the White Sox and they are still only 9.5 games up on the Twins. That may seem like a lot now, but you know the Twins are going to come at them strong in the second half...I don't think the Palehose will collapse but I also don't want to see them being content with such a "huge lead" in the division. Luckily they have Ozzie as their manager and he won't let them ;) :thumbup:
 
Enough of the 'if they win half their remaining games' crap. I see it in every article that references the Sox. What if they are actually this good? I see them winning 60% of their remaining games. This team has made too many late-inning rallies for me to think anything other than this is a magical year. It's especially important considering that it's very likely that the Sox go back to 83-79 next year.

 
It's especially important considering that it's very likely that the Sox go back to 83-79 next year.
Not sure how you can speculate what their record will be next year. Especially if they continue to play the same style of ball and are able to keep their pitching staff in tact.
 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:
26-5 against the Central is even more impressive when considering the Twins and Indians are having good seasons, and Detroit has been about a .500 team this season. Only KC has been a doormat so the White Sox are not only beating teams in their own division which is huge, but also beating some solid teams - we're see how they play vs. a heavy dose of the Twins, Yankees, Indians and Red Sox in the 2nd half.
 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:
26-5 against the Central is even more impressive when considering the Twins and Indians are having good seasons, and Detroit has been about a .500 team this season. Only KC has been a doormat so the White Sox are not only beating teams in their own division which is huge, but also beating some solid teams - we're see how they play vs. a heavy dose of the Twins, Yankees, Indians and Red Sox in the 2nd half.
The only time I'll talk about being satisfied with .500 ball is reference to the teams you have listed. If they play .500 against those teams for the remainder of the season, they should be in great shape.
 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:
26-5 against the Central is even more impressive when considering the Twins and Indians are having good seasons, and Detroit has been about a .500 team this season. Only KC has been a doormat so the White Sox are not only beating teams in their own division which is huge, but also beating some solid teams - we're see how they play vs. a heavy dose of the Twins, Yankees, Indians and Red Sox in the 2nd half.
So much for the Central being the weakest division in baseballSox 56 wins

Twins 46 wins

Indians 46 wins

Only one other division has a second place team with more wins...the NL East with Atlanta having 47 wins. Detroit isn't too shabby either. Makes this season even more special. :popcorn:

 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:
26-5 against the Central is even more impressive when considering the Twins and Indians are having good seasons, and Detroit has been about a .500 team this season. Only KC has been a doormat so the White Sox are not only beating teams in their own division which is huge, but also beating some solid teams - we're see how they play vs. a heavy dose of the Twins, Yankees, Indians and Red Sox in the 2nd half.
So much for the Central being the weakest division in baseballSox 56 wins

Twins 46 wins

Indians 46 wins

Only one other division has a second place team with more wins...the NL East with Atlanta having 47 wins. Detroit isn't too shabby either. Makes this season even more special. :popcorn:
Exactly - if you listen to ESPN enough, you're be convinced that the Yankees/Red Sox are the only 2 teams in the league!
 
Even if they slip and play .500 the rest of the way they end up with 96 wins. They are doing what they have to do and that is beat the weak teams, Tampa, KC, Detroit, Seattle and Colorado (27 - 4) . Should be able to sweep the Rays tonight and hopefully take a series from the A's this weekend. A sweep would put them at 60 wins at the break. And for everyone that keeps pointing out that no one is hitting over .300 the last time I looked the only thing that really matters are Wins and Loses.
That's the only thing the sports media can say about the Sox right now. "If they only play .500 the rest of the way, they will win X games." They've been saying it since the Sox were 10 games over .500.There are no signs whatsoever of this team slipping. Every two or three game losing streak has resulted in a substantial winning streak or going 7-3 over the next 10 games.

You are correct. The real key here is that they have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat and are now 26-5 against the Central. :shock:
26-5 against the Central is even more impressive when considering the Twins and Indians are having good seasons, and Detroit has been about a .500 team this season. Only KC has been a doormat so the White Sox are not only beating teams in their own division which is huge, but also beating some solid teams - we're see how they play vs. a heavy dose of the Twins, Yankees, Indians and Red Sox in the 2nd half.
So much for the Central being the weakest division in baseballSox 56 wins

Twins 46 wins

Indians 46 wins

Only one other division has a second place team with more wins...the NL East with Atlanta having 47 wins. Detroit isn't too shabby either. Makes this season even more special. :popcorn:
Exactly - if you listen to ESPN enough, you're be convinced that the Yankees/Red Sox are the only 2 teams in the league!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: to ESPN :lol:

 
Another good thing about the Sox is quality bats off the bench. Everett/Thomas, Timo Perez, Willie Harris and Ross Gload is rehabbing and tearing it up in the minors. I look for them to strengthen the 5th starter spot giving McCarthy another year to season. Otherwise Hermanson has started if the 100 mph rookie they are bringing up can set up Politte to close.Go Sox.

 
Another good thing about the Sox is quality bats off the bench. Everett/Thomas, Timo Perez, Willie Harris and Ross Gload is rehabbing and tearing it up in the minors.

I look for them to strengthen the 5th starter spot giving McCarthy another year to season. Otherwise Hermanson has started if the 100 mph rookie they are bringing up can set up Politte to close.

Go Sox.
Only thing I don't like is when Ross Gload comes back, it will probably be to replace Willie Harris. Gload deserves to be on a major league roster, but I don't want 3 players (Konerko, Thomas, and Gload) who can't do much besides 1B and DH. I'd rather have Harris for late inning stealing.
 
Another good thing about the Sox is quality bats off the bench. Everett/Thomas, Timo Perez, Willie Harris and Ross Gload is rehabbing and tearing it up in the minors.

I look for them to strengthen the 5th starter spot giving McCarthy another year to season. Otherwise Hermanson has started if the 100 mph rookie they are bringing up can set up Politte to close.

Go Sox.
Only thing I don't like is when Ross Gload comes back, it will probably be to replace Willie Harris. Gload deserves to be on a major league roster, but I don't want 3 players (Konerko, Thomas, and Gload) who can't do much besides 1B and DH. I'd rather have Harris for late inning stealing.
Very good point Spidey. Harris will be staying with the team IMO. Maybe they have a trade brewing. someone might need to go on the dl. Actually they probably will keep Gload down on the farm untill someone needs to go on the dl. Gload also can play OF I believe .Ben Davis also gives them excellent protection if one of the catcher's gets hurt.

They are deep at every position and this allows them to get plenty of rest for the stretch run and playoffs. Go Sox.

 
Another good thing about the Sox is quality bats off the bench. Everett/Thomas, Timo Perez, Willie Harris and Ross Gload is rehabbing and tearing it up in the minors.

I look for them to strengthen the 5th starter spot giving McCarthy another year to season. Otherwise Hermanson has started if the 100 mph rookie they are bringing up can set up Politte to close.

Go Sox.
Only thing I don't like is when Ross Gload comes back, it will probably be to replace Willie Harris. Gload deserves to be on a major league roster, but I don't want 3 players (Konerko, Thomas, and Gload) who can't do much besides 1B and DH. I'd rather have Harris for late inning stealing.
Very good point Spidey. Harris will be staying with the team IMO. Maybe they have a trade brewing. someone might need to go on the dl. Actually they probably will keep Gload down on the farm untill someone needs to go on the dl. Gload also can play OF I believe .Ben Davis also gives them excellent protection if one of the catcher's gets hurt.

They are deep at every position and this allows them to get plenty of rest for the stretch run and playoffs. Go Sox.
:no: see Cubs series last year... he was terrible. I would rather keep him at 1st or DH.... or the most likely possibility off of the bench as a pinch hitter.
 
Gload also can play OF I believe .

They are deep at every position and this allows them to get plenty of rest for the stretch run and playoffs. Go Sox.

:no: see Cubs series last year... he was terrible. I would rather keep him at 1st or DH.... or the most likely possibility off of the bench as a pinch hitter.

Well with Everett and Timo Perez hopefully the Sox can keep Gload away from the OF. What is up with Borchard while on the topic of OF's. Was he traded or just on the farm? I do believe I remember seeing Gload hatchet some balls against the Cubbies.

 
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To answeer my own question Borchard is hitting .243 with 15 Hrs yay and 96 strikouts boo for the AA Charlotte Knights. Ron Kittle revisited here?

 
Big Frank getting the power surge and his average is climbing. Jenks threw 18 pitches and i didn't see one under 96mph with a top of 99. I heard he throws his curve at 86 so I don't know if I didn't catch the speed on screen or what. He looked a little shaky but he can rock and FIRE. Go Sox.

 
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