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***OFFICIAL*** WHITE SOX THREAD (1 Viewer)

Jason Stark on ESPN radio is saying the White Sox are looking like the top contender to land AJ Burnett. It sounds like they are going to give up Brandon McCarthy and either Everyday Damaso Marte or Cliff Politte.

 
Beurhle hasn't looked overly impressive of late and Freddy is struggling big time. I agree that AJB looks to be the answer. I think it would give Ozzie the luxoury of giving his staff an extra day of rest on occasion. The only thing that irks me is that Ozzie can't get set on a lineup. Just when it looks like Rowand is looking comfortable he sits him. Pods can't play center and Timo can't play left! Also it looks like he may be giving up on Crede so I wouldn't be surprise if they make him part of a deal with the Marlins. Hey still best record in baseball with the biggest lead but it means nothing if they're not playing a NL team in October.

 
Crede is sitting due to a bad back. Trading Pollitte would be bad. Marte would be a better option in a trade even thogh he is a lefty. McCarthy is going to be a GREAT starter for many years in the bigs but to win a title this year it would be worth the sacrifice. Politte has the stuff to be a shut down closer if he can mentally deal with it and I think he can. He also is insurance in case Hermanson gets another tired arm streak. Cotts is pitching tremendously and is a lefty so the sporadic Marte and future star Mcarthy for AJ would be better than Polittte and McCarthy I feel. Too bad they didn't make a move for Chavez or Grafanino when they had the chance. There will be another 3rd basemen available before the year is up if Crede continues to have back problems IMO. Go Sox.

 
Jason Stark on ESPN radio is saying the White Sox are looking like the top contender to land AJ Burnett. It sounds like they are going to give up Brandon McCarthy and either Everyday Damaso Marte or Cliff Politte.
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From Today's SunTimes:Burnett deal appearing less likely

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- As the White Sox prepare to fold up their trading post, the agent for Florida Marlins right-hander A.J. Burnett also is resigned to knowing that a deal is less likely by the minute.

Burnett's agent, Darek Braunecker, said Tuesday he was 85 percent sure last week that his client was on the move, with the Baltimore Orioles being the destination. After that deal fell through, the Sox emerged as the primary suitor. But that partnership has failed to deliver, too.

It seems Burnett's outing Sunday, when he didn't give up an earned run in 71/3 innings and hit a home run, didn't raise his trade value as much as it made the Marlins more interested in keeping him.

''I think [the Marlins] have finally realized they are a better club with him than with a replacement for him,'' Braunecker said. ''I know there is ongoing dialogue and they will continue to entertain discussions, but what their intent is now, I don't know. I think the intent a week ago was to move him for a package, but it appears, from what I've been told, that has changed. I think they are just as inclined to keep him as they are to move him.''

The biggest trade snag seems to be that nobody is willing to take third baseman Mike Lowell along with Burnett. Lowell still has $21.25 million left on a contract that runs through 2007, and the Marlins don't seem interested in picking up much, if any, of it. The Sox already have an overloaded roster, and adding Lowell would mean losing a component that has helped them compile the best record in baseball. Then there is the money issue.

''Nobody has asked anything from us to this point, but it's still pure speculation,'' Braunecker said. ''I really don't know [about the trade snags] because the asking price of Baltimore was pretty steep. But Baltimore was in agreement with it; they just couldn't get the Lowell situation to work out.

"The Lowell situation, whether that is impeding this, it's speculation from various sources that it is part of the hang-up. In terms of the asking price, it sounds like the players have been agreed upon. They just have to agree upon the details.''

 
Jason Stark on ESPN radio is saying the White Sox are looking like the top contender to land AJ Burnett. It sounds like they are going to give up Brandon McCarthy and either Everyday Damaso Marte or Cliff Politte.
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From Today's SunTimes:Burnett deal appearing less likely

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- As the White Sox prepare to fold up their trading post, the agent for Florida Marlins right-hander A.J. Burnett also is resigned to knowing that a deal is less likely by the minute.

Burnett's agent, Darek Braunecker, said Tuesday he was 85 percent sure last week that his client was on the move, with the Baltimore Orioles being the destination. After that deal fell through, the Sox emerged as the primary suitor. But that partnership has failed to deliver, too.

It seems Burnett's outing Sunday, when he didn't give up an earned run in 71/3 innings and hit a home run, didn't raise his trade value as much as it made the Marlins more interested in keeping him.

''I think [the Marlins] have finally realized they are a better club with him than with a replacement for him,'' Braunecker said. ''I know there is ongoing dialogue and they will continue to entertain discussions, but what their intent is now, I don't know. I think the intent a week ago was to move him for a package, but it appears, from what I've been told, that has changed. I think they are just as inclined to keep him as they are to move him.''

The biggest trade snag seems to be that nobody is willing to take third baseman Mike Lowell along with Burnett. Lowell still has $21.25 million left on a contract that runs through 2007, and the Marlins don't seem interested in picking up much, if any, of it. The Sox already have an overloaded roster, and adding Lowell would mean losing a component that has helped them compile the best record in baseball. Then there is the money issue.

''Nobody has asked anything from us to this point, but it's still pure speculation,'' Braunecker said. ''I really don't know [about the trade snags] because the asking price of Baltimore was pretty steep. But Baltimore was in agreement with it; they just couldn't get the Lowell situation to work out.

"The Lowell situation, whether that is impeding this, it's speculation from various sources that it is part of the hang-up. In terms of the asking price, it sounds like the players have been agreed upon. They just have to agree upon the details.''
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I really hope this is true, I could do without Burnett especially if Politte is part of the deal.
 
Jason Stark on ESPN radio is saying the White Sox are looking like the top contender to land AJ Burnett.  It sounds like they are going to give up Brandon McCarthy and either Everyday Damaso Marte or Cliff Politte.
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From Today's SunTimes:Burnett deal appearing less likely

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- As the White Sox prepare to fold up their trading post, the agent for Florida Marlins right-hander A.J. Burnett also is resigned to knowing that a deal is less likely by the minute.

Burnett's agent, Darek Braunecker, said Tuesday he was 85 percent sure last week that his client was on the move, with the Baltimore Orioles being the destination. After that deal fell through, the Sox emerged as the primary suitor. But that partnership has failed to deliver, too.

It seems Burnett's outing Sunday, when he didn't give up an earned run in 71/3 innings and hit a home run, didn't raise his trade value as much as it made the Marlins more interested in keeping him.

''I think [the Marlins] have finally realized they are a better club with him than with a replacement for him,'' Braunecker said. ''I know there is ongoing dialogue and they will continue to entertain discussions, but what their intent is now, I don't know. I think the intent a week ago was to move him for a package, but it appears, from what I've been told, that has changed. I think they are just as inclined to keep him as they are to move him.''

The biggest trade snag seems to be that nobody is willing to take third baseman Mike Lowell along with Burnett. Lowell still has $21.25 million left on a contract that runs through 2007, and the Marlins don't seem interested in picking up much, if any, of it. The Sox already have an overloaded roster, and adding Lowell would mean losing a component that has helped them compile the best record in baseball. Then there is the money issue.

''Nobody has asked anything from us to this point, but it's still pure speculation,'' Braunecker said. ''I really don't know [about the trade snags] because the asking price of Baltimore was pretty steep. But Baltimore was in agreement with it; they just couldn't get the Lowell situation to work out.

"The Lowell situation, whether that is impeding this, it's speculation from various sources that it is part of the hang-up. In terms of the asking price, it sounds like the players have been agreed upon. They just have to agree upon the details.''
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I really hope this is true, I could do without Burnett especially if Politte is part of the deal.
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I don't think Politte would be part of any deal...Stark mentioning that is the first I've heard of that....BTW, I do enjoy Stark's rumblings, and radio time on Mike & Mike, but he always seems to me at least that's no more than the Sam Smith of MLB....report every possible rumor you hear, and eventually you may get one right.

 
Jason Stark on ESPN radio is saying the White Sox are looking like the top contender to land AJ Burnett. It sounds like they are going to give up Brandon McCarthy and either Everyday Damaso Marte or Cliff Politte.
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From Today's SunTimes:Burnett deal appearing less likely

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- As the White Sox prepare to fold up their trading post, the agent for Florida Marlins right-hander A.J. Burnett also is resigned to knowing that a deal is less likely by the minute.

Burnett's agent, Darek Braunecker, said Tuesday he was 85 percent sure last week that his client was on the move, with the Baltimore Orioles being the destination. After that deal fell through, the Sox emerged as the primary suitor. But that partnership has failed to deliver, too.

It seems Burnett's outing Sunday, when he didn't give up an earned run in 71/3 innings and hit a home run, didn't raise his trade value as much as it made the Marlins more interested in keeping him.

''I think [the Marlins] have finally realized they are a better club with him than with a replacement for him,'' Braunecker said. ''I know there is ongoing dialogue and they will continue to entertain discussions, but what their intent is now, I don't know. I think the intent a week ago was to move him for a package, but it appears, from what I've been told, that has changed. I think they are just as inclined to keep him as they are to move him.''

The biggest trade snag seems to be that nobody is willing to take third baseman Mike Lowell along with Burnett. Lowell still has $21.25 million left on a contract that runs through 2007, and the Marlins don't seem interested in picking up much, if any, of it. The Sox already have an overloaded roster, and adding Lowell would mean losing a component that has helped them compile the best record in baseball. Then there is the money issue.

''Nobody has asked anything from us to this point, but it's still pure speculation,'' Braunecker said. ''I really don't know [about the trade snags] because the asking price of Baltimore was pretty steep. But Baltimore was in agreement with it; they just couldn't get the Lowell situation to work out.

"The Lowell situation, whether that is impeding this, it's speculation from various sources that it is part of the hang-up. In terms of the asking price, it sounds like the players have been agreed upon. They just have to agree upon the details.''
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I really hope this is true, I could do without Burnett especially if Politte is part of the deal.
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I don't think Politte would be part of any deal...Stark mentioning that is the first I've heard of that....BTW, I do enjoy Stark's rumblings, and radio time on Mike & Mike, but he always seems to me at least that's no more than the Sam Smith of MLB....report every possible rumor you hear, and eventually you may get one right.
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Good post, should have prefaced my post to take it with a grain of salt, but it was also the first I heard about who the White Sox were willing to deal for Burnett.
 
If the Sox could pull McCarthy out of the deal would be the only way I would feel any good about trading Pollitte BUT I think the Sox should go for the win it this year effort NOW and if we have to trade a future star and gain a better chance to win now so be it. Go Sox.

 
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What happen with Buerhle getting tossed? His consecutive games of pitching into the 7th are history. I guess it's a good thing because Ozzie wasn't going to stop the streak. August 1st and 15 up , they have one killer stretch coming up with the twinkees , yankess and bosox which I think will finally convince the national media that this team is for real.

 
Magic Number: 4469-35...15 game lead..Buerhle's ejection was ridiculous. Baltimore had hit a batter a few innings earlier, Buerhle hits Surhoff, and gets ejected, no warning.

 
Magic Number: 44

69-35...15 game lead..

Buerhle's ejection was ridiculous. Baltimore had hit a batter a few innings earlier, Buerhle hits Surhoff, and gets ejected, no warning.
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Not to mention that gooch was hit yesterday... f'ing ridiculous.Can't wait for the BoSox and Yankees series... should be a nice litmus test for the best team in baseball :thumbup:

 
nip2 of 3 (all one run games) from the Yanks at Yankee Stadium. Despite all of the punches thrown, Sox take the series. :towelwave:

 
I got a chance to watch the Sox-Yanks series. It was a pleasure. This was old fashioned hardball. I was very impressed with the leather thrown by the ChiSox outfield as well as their bullpen. Also, the fact that Chicago did not use their top 2 pitchers in winning the series did not go unnoticed.

 
So, right now the magic number for the White Sox is 36 after the 2-1 10 inning win today, correct ?Cleveland is cleaning up on the Royals so I don't think we're going to lower than tonight.

 
So, right now the magic number for the White Sox is 36 after the 2-1 10 inning win today, correct ?

Cleveland is cleaning up on the Royals so I don't think we're going to lower than tonight.
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I still think the White Sox made a mistake and should have picked up a bat before the trade deadline. They are unquestionably the team to beat in my mind, and another bat would have virtually guarenteed a WS for them.
 
So, right now the magic number for the White Sox is 36 after the 2-1 10 inning win today, correct ?

Cleveland is cleaning up on the Royals so I don't think we're going to lower than tonight.
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I still think the White Sox made a mistake and should have picked up a bat before the trade deadline. They are unquestionably the team to beat in my mind, and another bat would have virtually guarenteed a WS for them.
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There's still a lot of speculation that Griffey could end up in Chicago, but a lot of things have to happen for that to become real.I agree that it would have been nice to, at least, have 1 good hitter on the bench who can rotate in the lineup, the way Ozzie mixed in Frank Thomas/Carl Everett....Right now, in a close game, Guillen doesn't really have a dependable hitter to turn to.

I did like the pickup of Blum, even though he hasn't hit much since being acquired....His versitiility will be able to help get Crede and Uribe some rest down the stretch.

I've heard Dmitri Young's name mentioned also....

Will be interesting to see if the White Sox can acquire another hitter without being blocked by the big spenders (Yankees, Red Sox specifially ) of the AL.

 
No matter what anybody says, these 2 series against the Yanks and Sawx will be a true test to see where the White Sox stand against two of the best teams in the AL. I like taking 2 out of 3 against the Yanks to start this trip.... that was huge. But it would be even bigger if they go into Fenway and take another 2 out of 3 :thumbup: GB the Palehose :goodposting:

 
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So, right now the magic number for the White Sox is 36 after the 2-1 10 inning win today, correct ?

Cleveland is cleaning up on the Royals so I don't think we're going to lower than tonight.
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I still think the White Sox made a mistake and should have picked up a bat before the trade deadline. They are unquestionably the team to beat in my mind, and another bat would have virtually guarenteed a WS for them.
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There's still a lot of speculation that Griffey could end up in Chicago, but a lot of things have to happen for that to become real.I agree that it would have been nice to, at least, have 1 good hitter on the bench who can rotate in the lineup, the way Ozzie mixed in Frank Thomas/Carl Everett....Right now, in a close game, Guillen doesn't really have a dependable hitter to turn to.

I did like the pickup of Blum, even though he hasn't hit much since being acquired....His versitiility will be able to help get Crede and Uribe some rest down the stretch.

I've heard Dmitri Young's name mentioned also....

Will be interesting to see if the White Sox can acquire another hitter without being blocked by the big spenders (Yankees, Red Sox specifially ) of the AL.
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The good thing for the Southsiders is that the Yanks and Bosox don't really need another DH. The Yanks need starting pitching and the Bosox need a reliever.
 
No matter what anybody says, these 2 series against the Yanks and Sawx will be a true test to see where the White Sox stand against two of the best teams in the AL. I like taking 2 out of 3 against the Yanks to start this trip.... that was huge. But it would be even bigger if they go into Fenway and take another 2 out of 3 :thumbup:

GB the Palehose

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It would be nicer if they swept Boston!
 
White Sox are now 17-18 in their last 35 games, and have lost 13 of 19 at home.Obviously, the lack of offense, and injuries are the problems. The bullpen and starting pitching have been good enough, but when you're scoring 3 runs a night (and 4 if you're really lucky), it's going to be tough to put together a winning streak.

 
The pressure is off they now have the 2nd best record in baseball. Time to right the ship with some timely hitting. I went to Monday nights game and the they had a runner in scoring position with one out or less in 6 of the first 7 innings yet only managed 1 run.

 
I'm starting to feel :X

Had a chance to go to this game tonight and I'm glad I didn't. :hot:
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No worries...I don't think anyone expected this team to play great from beginning to finish and still have a great season. I don't mind this little slump at all. It was bound to happen at some point, let's just be glad it's right now and now 3 or 4 weeks from now.

Until this 5 game losing steak the only slumps were a couple of 3-game losing streaks which the followed by 7 and 8 game winning streaks.

Let's get some guys healthy and get focused to finish strong and with some momentum going into the playoffs.

 
I'm starting to feel :X

Had a chance to go to this game tonight and I'm glad I didn't. :hot:
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No worries...I don't think anyone expected this team to play great from beginning to finish and still have a great season. I don't mind this little slump at all. It was bound to happen at some point, let's just be glad it's right now and now 3 or 4 weeks from now.

Until this 5 game losing steak the only slumps were a couple of 3-game losing streaks which the followed by 7 and 8 game winning streaks.

Let's get some guys healthy and get focused to finish strong and with some momentum going into the playoffs.
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I was more worried about Johan throwing a no hitter more than anything last night :unsure: ;)

I won't be worried about the Sox until the playoffs roll around :ph34r:

 
Us Cub fans from Michigan? Typical Cub fan from out of state that is in love with getting drunk at Wrigley Field. How many players take the field during play?Fill in the blank: 3 strikes and you are ---LOL as a Sox fan it looks bleak but being a Cub fan is the same as being a poser...

 
Yep it looks bleak during the 3-4 game losing streaks untill one of the 8 game winning streaks comes around. The Sox have been liberally resting all of their starters and are going with a 5 and 6 man rotation. Add the bottom 2 starters to the bullpen and come with the best lineup everyday and I am ready for Cle, Oak, NYY BooSox and even the Krypto A's. Bring on the Cardinals' Of course if we only would have kept Bartolo I would be predicting victory. Now I am cautiously optimistic we can play and beat the best. Go Sox. Edited to add: I found it amusing the Sun Times was discussing the 06 Cubs schedule today.

 
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The Sox have been liberally resting all of their starters and are going with a 5 and 6 man rotation. Add the bottom 2 starters to the bullpen and come with the best lineup everyday and I am ready for Cle, Oak, NYY BooSox and even the Krypto A's. Bring on the Cardinals'

Of course if we only would have kept Bartolo I would be predicting victory. Now I am cautiously optimistic we can play and beat the best.
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:lmao: :lol: Keep resting starters and going 6 deep in the rotation, it's working beautifully. No better way to flop at the end of the season or in the ALDS than to do what you just said. You need to be a machine now, not before the ASB.

 
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I'm not saying I agree with it but we will see in the end. I am basically stating what they have been doing. They still have a very talented startind lineup and a decent rotation and bullpen. With Colon I think we would have dominated but all in all I'm very happy with the season as a whole. I'm confident this team will stay solid and get hot again. We consistently have followed up our 3-4 game losing streaks with 6-8 game winning streaks. 17 games to go with a 4.5 game lead on Cle. Cle. has 1 game lead on Yankees. It seems the Yankees have much more to worry about then the ChiSox. :boxing: Go Sox.

 
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I doubt many non-White Sox homers would consider the title of "Best Team in Baseball" appropriate at this point.

 
I don't think many White Sox homers would feel it is accurate either. I know Ozzie doesn't. But ask me again in a month and I hopefully will reverse my stance. Go Sox.

 
The key to this season is going to be the 3 game set at home vs. Cleveland next week...If the White Sox take 2 of 3, I think that should take care of the division.First things first though, let's avoid a disaster in Minnesota this weekend.

 
The key to this season is going to be the 3 game set at home vs. Cleveland next week...If the White Sox take 2 of 3, I think that should take care of the division.

First things first though, let's avoid a disaster in Minnesota this weekend.
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2 of 3 but the Indians are still coming strong.This would be the perfect time to get on one of those rolls again.

Go Sox.

 
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