***Official WIS Sim XIII Draft Thread - The HoVG (1 Viewer)

[Doug B]

With this much intentional skipping ... I move that we have a remaining picks free-for-all tomorrow at some point. Late enough so that all the West Coast drafters can get settled in beforehand.

 

[Koya]

:deadbanana:

 

[Eephus]

With this much intentional skipping ... I move that we have a remaining picks free-for-all tomorrow at some point. Late enough so that all the West Coast drafters can get settled in beforehand.

We'll finish tomorrow for sure

 

[Koya]

With this much intentional skipping ... I move that we have a remaining picks free-for-all tomorrow at some point. Late enough so that all the West Coast drafters can get settled in beforehand.

We'll finish tomorrow for sure

What's goin on with the league ol man? Dont see any reason for us to be twiddling thumbs here. Will it at least be this afternoon in time for Monday Night Football sim live - the testing grounds?

 

[Eephus]

With this much intentional skipping ... I move that we have a remaining picks free-for-all tomorrow at some point. Late enough so that all the West Coast drafters can get settled in beforehand.

We'll finish tomorrow for sure

What's goin on with the league ol man? Dont see any reason for us to be twiddling thumbs here. Will it at least be this afternoon in time for Monday Night Football sim live - the testing grounds?

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

 

[Koya]

With this much intentional skipping ... I move that we have a remaining picks free-for-all tomorrow at some point. Late enough so that all the West Coast drafters can get settled in beforehand.

We'll finish tomorrow for sure

What's goin on with the league ol man? Dont see any reason for us to be twiddling thumbs here. Will it at least be this afternoon in time for Monday Night Football sim live - the testing grounds?

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

BUILD IT, AND THEY WILL COME.(and I'd take tumbleweeds for now)

 

[oso diablo]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

 

[Eephus]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

Koya wants to sim exhibition games. I believe you can't sim live in-season games until after the first game of the season.But that raises a good point. Do we have enough interest in a Sim Live division (or league)? You should be willing to commit to Sim Live at least 40 games.

Sim Live interest

Koya (natch)

Dr. Detroit

Mr. Phoenix (probably)

 

[Koya]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

SIM LIVE works two ways - first, there are exhibition games. You play with the team you are drafting now, against another team in our league, or any other leagues team (and you can also play against historical teams, i.e. the 27 yankees). Stats dont count, its just for kicks. Sometimes we will do a little tourney style for braggin rights.Once the season starts, you can actually play your league games live - essentially you make all managerial decisions. linup, infield in, pinch hitters, relievers, steals, etc. You do it based upon PAs, not individual pitches.

 

[Koya]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

Koya wants to sim exhibition games. I believe you can't sim live in-season games until after the first game of the season.But that raises a good point. Do we have enough interest in a Sim Live division (or league)? You should be willing to commit to Sim Live at least 40 games.

Sim Live interest

Koya (natch)

Dr. Detroit

Mr. Phoenix (probably)

I believe JFranco expressed interest if their were a live league.

 

[oso diablo]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

SIM LIVE works two ways - first, there are exhibition games. You play with the team you are drafting now, against another team in our league, or any other leagues team (and you can also play against historical teams, i.e. the 27 yankees). Stats dont count, its just for kicks. Sometimes we will do a little tourney style for braggin rights.Once the season starts, you can actually play your league games live - essentially you make all managerial decisions. linup, infield in, pinch hitters, relievers, steals, etc. You do it based upon PAs, not individual pitches.

i could do exhibition games tonight and tomorrow night, then not again until Monday after Thanksgiving.

 

[Eephus]

Larry skipped

Oso OTC

 

[oso diablo]

22.11 Kaz Sasaki - RP

is he eligible/available?

 

[Eephus]

22.11 Kaz Sasaki - RP

is he eligible/available?

yes and yes

 

[Eephus]

22 . 01 : Sparty----------- : SKIP

22 . 02 : Bogart----------- : SKIP

22 . 03 : TremendousUpside- : SKIP

22 . 04 : Doug B----------- : Tom Hall RP

22 . 05 : Pumpnick--------- : SKIP

22 . 06 : RnR-------------- : Steve Busby RP

22 . 07 : Dirty Pskov------ : SKIP

22 . 08 : Eephus----------- : Turk Farrell RP

22 . 09 : Shakespeare II--- : SKIP

22 . 10 : Larry Boy-------- : SKIP

22 . 11 : osodiablo-------- : Kazuhiro Sasaki RP

22 . 12 : SCBF------------- : OTC to xx32

22 . 13 : Sammy------------ :

22 . 14 : HoosFirst-------- :

22 . 15 : SNC-------------- :

22 . 16 : Frosty Dungeon--- :

22 . 17 : MrPhoenix-------- :

22 . 18 : Grecospeare------ : SKIP

22 . 19 : Jfranco---------- :

22 . 20 : Koya------------- :

22 . 21 : Arsenal of Doom-- :

22 . 22 : DrDetroit-------- :

22 . 23 : Kraft------------ :

22 . 24 : BougD------------ :

 

[Hoos First]

1 player list sent to SNC

 

[larry_boy_44]

OF Don Buford

 

[Sammy3469]

RP Graeme Lloyd

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Hoosfirst: George Harper

SNC: Alex Kampouris, 2B

 

[Koya]

RP Graeme Lloyd

 

[Sammy3469]

RP Graeme Lloyd

 

[Spartans Rule]

21.24 OF John Lowenstein

 

[Koya]

21.24 OF John Lowenstein

One of my early favs with the O's

 

[ScottNorwood]

Hey guys, you need some help?

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

22.12 Mark Dewey RP

 

[Eephus]

Hoosfirst: George Harper

SNC: Alex Kampouris, 2B

Frosty OTC to xx08

 

[Eephus]

22.12 Andy Rincon RP

REPICK21 . 01 : BougD------------ : Andy Rincon RP

 

[Spartans Rule]

22.1 IF Solly Hemus

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

22.12 Andy Rincon RP

REPICK21 . 01 : BougD------------ : Andy Rincon RP

Fixed.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

SIM LIVE works two ways - first, there are exhibition games. You play with the team you are drafting now, against another team in our league, or any other leagues team (and you can also play against historical teams, i.e. the 27 yankees). Stats dont count, its just for kicks. Sometimes we will do a little tourney style for braggin rights.Once the season starts, you can actually play your league games live - essentially you make all managerial decisions. linup, infield in, pinch hitters, relievers, steals, etc. You do it based upon PAs, not individual pitches.

Do you have to be online at the same time as another team to play against them? Or are you playing against the team CPU managed?

 

[oso diablo]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?

note that i'm assuming that WIS doesn't let you use them for much more than what they actually played.

 

[Koya]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

SIM LIVE works two ways - first, there are exhibition games. You play with the team you are drafting now, against another team in our league, or any other leagues team (and you can also play against historical teams, i.e. the 27 yankees). Stats dont count, its just for kicks. Sometimes we will do a little tourney style for braggin rights.Once the season starts, you can actually play your league games live - essentially you make all managerial decisions. linup, infield in, pinch hitters, relievers, steals, etc. You do it based upon PAs, not individual pitches.

Do you have to be online at the same time as another team to play against them? Or are you playing against the team CPU managed?

For sim live, you must both be online at the same time.

 

[Koya]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?note that i'm assuming that WIS doesn't let you use them for much more than what they actually played.

They may give you a signficiant advantage but for a very limited amount of appearance. Some feel it's worth leveraging a few low PA/IP guys, some feel its a waste of a roster spot.

 

[Eephus]

22 . 01 : Sparty----------- : Solly Hemus 2B

22 . 02 : Bogart----------- : SKIP

22 . 03 : TremendousUpside- : SKIP

22 . 04 : Doug B----------- : Tom Hall RP

22 . 05 : Pumpnick--------- : SKIP

22 . 06 : RnR-------------- : Steve Busby RP

22 . 07 : Dirty Pskov------ : SKIP

22 . 08 : Eephus----------- : Turk Farrell RP

22 . 09 : Shakespeare II--- : SKIP

22 . 10 : Larry Boy-------- : Don Buford OF

22 . 11 : osodiablo-------- : Kazuhiro Sasaki RP

22 . 12 : SCBF------------- : Mark Dewey RP

22 . 13 : Sammy------------ : Graeme Lloyd RP

22 . 14 : HoosFirst-------- : George Harper OF

22 . 15 : SNC-------------- : Alex Kampouris 2B

22 . 16 : Frosty Dungeon--- : SKIP

22 . 17 : MrPhoenix-------- : OTC to xx38

22 . 18 : Grecospeare------ : SKIP

22 . 19 : Jfranco---------- : On deck

22 . 20 : Koya------------- : already in Sim Live room #1

 

[oso diablo]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?note that i'm assuming that WIS doesn't let you use them for much more than what they actually played.

They may give you a signficiant advantage but for a very limited amount of appearance. Some feel it's worth leveraging a few low PA/IP guys, some feel its a waste of a roster spot.

statistical theory (ie, random variation in low sample sizes) would suggest that it's a pretty risky strategy.not to mention how objectionable i find it from a WIS-algorithm standpoint. WIS should level-set low sample sizes with a complement of either league averages or that player's rest-of-career. I suppose that removes some of the fun that some WIS users find in the product, but it would enhance the realism of the game-engine.

 

[Eephus]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?note that i'm assuming that WIS doesn't let you use them for much more than what they actually played.

They may give you a signficiant advantage but for a very limited amount of appearance. Some feel it's worth leveraging a few low PA/IP guys, some feel its a waste of a roster spot.

statistical theory (ie, random variation in low sample sizes) would suggest that it's a pretty risky strategy.not to mention how objectionable i find it from a WIS-algorithm standpoint. WIS should level-set low sample sizes with a complement of either league averages or that player's rest-of-career. I suppose that removes some of the fun that some WIS users find in the product, but it would enhance the realism of the game-engine.

Bob Milacki disagrees

 

[Kraft...]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?note that i'm assuming that WIS doesn't let you use them for much more than what they actually played.

They may give you a signficiant advantage but for a very limited amount of appearance. Some feel it's worth leveraging a few low PA/IP guys, some feel its a waste of a roster spot.

statistical theory (ie, random variation in low sample sizes) would suggest that it's a pretty risky strategy.not to mention how objectionable i find it from a WIS-algorithm standpoint. WIS should level-set low sample sizes with a complement of either league averages or that player's rest-of-career. I suppose that removes some of the fun that some WIS users find in the product, but it would enhance the realism of the game-engine.

Bob Milacki disagrees

yeah some have played really well, low HR/AB guys usually win you a game or two with PH HR's

 

[Koya]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?note that i'm assuming that WIS doesn't let you use them for much more than what they actually played.

They may give you a signficiant advantage but for a very limited amount of appearance. Some feel it's worth leveraging a few low PA/IP guys, some feel its a waste of a roster spot.

statistical theory (ie, random variation in low sample sizes) would suggest that it's a pretty risky strategy.not to mention how objectionable i find it from a WIS-algorithm standpoint. WIS should level-set low sample sizes with a complement of either league averages or that player's rest-of-career. I suppose that removes some of the fun that some WIS users find in the product, but it would enhance the realism of the game-engine.

Bob Milacki disagrees

yeah some have played really well, low HR/AB guys usually win you a game or two with PH HR's

Shane Spencer was key to one of my World Series wins.

 

[Doug B]

do these extremly low IP or PA seasons really help a team all that much? I'm seeing guys picked with <70 PAs. That means you can pinch-hit them about every other game, right? Same deal with <30 IP seasons. How does that help you, especially if you collect a handful of such players?

Keep in mind that this is a no salary cap league (virtually). Because you can stock up on high-AB/high-IP quality, you really only need maybe 21 or 22 of your roster spots (assuming you're not platooning five positions, or something). Therefore, it's OK to carry and use guys that won't be available every day.

 

[Eephus]

jfranco otc to xx08

 

[Koya]

I will be heading out until later tonight. I HOPE to be sim living by then.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Sorry guys, hit a busy snag. Found another computer here where FBG's works. I'm thinking my usual computer just needs a reboot.

Pick coming soon.

 

[MrPhoenix]

22.17- SS Garry Templeton

Some speed and decent fielding off the bench.

 

[Eephus]

22.17- SS Garry Templeton

Some speed and decent fielding off the bench.

14 . 07 : Dirty Pskov------ : Garry Templeton SS

 

[Doug B]

22.17- SS Garry Templeton

Some speed and decent fielding off the bench.

Taken mid-draft for Pskov ... probably misspelled in the OP with a first name of "Gary".EDIT - My bad, Eephus ... he was spelled correctly in the OP:

14 . 07 : Dirty Pskov------ : Garry Templeton SS

 

[Eephus]

22.17- SS Garry Templeton

Some speed and decent fielding off the bench.

Taken mid-draft for Pskov ... probably misspelled in the OP with a first name of "Gary".EDIT - My bad, Eephus ... he was spelled correctly in the OP:

14 . 07 : Dirty Pskov------ : Garry Templeton SS

:finger:

 

[jfranco77]

who are you going to sim live against? :tumbleweeds:

please remind me how sim live works. are you actually playing real games, or is just one of those free test teams you can do?

Koya wants to sim exhibition games. I believe you can't sim live in-season games until after the first game of the season.But that raises a good point. Do we have enough interest in a Sim Live division (or league)? You should be willing to commit to Sim Live at least 40 games.

Sim Live interest

Koya (natch)

Dr. Detroit

Mr. Phoenix (probably)

I believe JFranco expressed interest if their were a live league.

I *like* to play live but I don't have much time... I will usually get around 5-10 games in live. Can't commit to 40.

 

[Frostillicus]

22.16 Jeff Frye, SUPER Utility

 

[jfranco77]

22.19 Paul Kilgus, P

 

[jfranco77]

pitching staff is complete... hope i have enough innings

Sp1 Mort Cooper 294ip 0.99whip 0.29/151hr .212oav# 2.17bb# 7.53ip/g

Sp2 Roger Wolff 263ip 1.01whip 0.28/135hr .218oav# 1.85bb# 7.58ip/g

Sp3 Gary Peters 205ip 0.98whip 0.48/175hr .224oav# 2.04bb# 6.82ip/g

Sp4 **** Ellsworth 291ip 1.03whip 0.43/173hr .219oav# 2.49bb# 7.86ip/g

CLO Cisco Carlos 42ip 0.77whip 9999hr+ .174oav# 2.00bb# 5.21ip/g

SUA Nick Maddox 57ip 0.83whip 9999hr+ .187oav# 2.32bb# 9.00ip/g

SUA George Dumont 43ip 0.88whip 9999hr+ .177oav# 2.63bb# 6.67ip/g

SUA Doug Rau 35ip 0.89whip 0.28/264hr .166oav# 3.05bb# 4.69ip/g

SUA Paul Kilgus 29ip 0.91whip 0.31/276hr .179oav# 2.55bb# 1.30ip/g

LRA Ernie Shore 148ip 0.98whip 9999hr+ .212oav# 2.23bb# 6.19 ip/g

LRB Fred Toney 235ip 1.06whip 0.04/431hr .214oav# 3.26bb# 6.19ip/g

1642ip, 0.99whip, .204oav, 0.26hr/9

it wouldn't surprise me if Toney displaces Ellsworth or Peters from the rotation.